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HW News - AMD BIOS Bugs, Arcturus GPU, & Intel Rumors for October

2019-07-21
everyone welcome back to another hardware news recap for the week we are finally past most of the AMD product reviews there's still more to come but hopefully hopefully AMD month will be over soon and we can start focusing on a wider range of things in the space it was a lot all at once this week though we still have some follow-up coverage like and the AG sub BIOS bugs that have been outed in the new ABA version of a GA 1003 follow up on the J's to cents versus me charity overclocking battle we did it's basically a show match we did for an eight hour stream on our n 20 hour stream on EBG A's and AMD Arcturus and a couple of other news items before that this video is brought to you by us and the gamers Nexus toolkit on store cameras axis net our brand new toolkit just launched and contains 10 custom made drivers for video card disassembly reap hasting and tear downs the 8 core tools are made of high-quality chromium vanadium alloy steel that's built for long service life and resistance to wear during use the other two tools are carbon steel hex heads that were custom ground down for capacitor clearance on video cards all the tools are easily mounted to a pegboard or stored in the GN made tool bag for easy transport learn more at the link in the description below so the update on that overclocking battle if you missed or didn't watch the entirety of the 8 hour stream we don't blame you but more or less what happened was in the first segment of the stream we did a master class with kingpin Vince Lucido from EVGA who is God he has his name on the kingpin card so that's who he is and he showed us basics like setting the card up how he would recommend and sign an Allen to pot and sawing the heater for the memory which is actually critical to operation stuff like that and then once we got past that phase we J and I each picked a card to run there were four of them we were told although we're not sure if this is entirely true we were told that there was one dud one really good card and then two that we're about equal and long story short we ended up with a back and forth leapfrog battle for the eight hour period so I placed the first score it held as the top score for probably a couple hours J ended up beating that one and he beat it right and I was in the middle of having a lot of issues with my system and then I end up beating his about thirteen seconds later though because I finally had a test pass complete successfully for we were using Port Royal for the whole time so the scores ended up being about twelve thousand three hundred forty three points I think for mine J's was twelve thousand two hundred fifty five and then the best part is that we then said you know what we're done Jay and I were going to step back and Vince why don't she show us how it's done so then kingpin steps in and in probably under ten minutes he beat both of our scores and said okay let's go get dinner so it shows you the the kind of you know this isn't as easy just pouring Alan to and pouring Alan to is actually the most important skill as he demonstrated in that segment so if you want to see that part it's probably in the last twenty minutes of the streamer so and we'd recommend washing it just because you can see a real pro do what he what we did in eight hours except he does it in ten for 15 minutes max so yeah that was the stream now as far as the the charity end of it EVGA was celebrating its 20th anniversary they're raising money for st. Jude's and Jays local kingpin had to visit anyway we flew out there so it was a pretty fun event they streamed for 20 hours we were on for eight and I believe they raised overall it was approaching $12,000 at the end of it all said and done so as over it was maybe eleven thousand six hundred something like that which is really damn good so really happy to see the success of their stream let's I think they said the most money they've ever raised they do this for st. Jude's I think every year and most they've ever raised in one go we contributed a thousand dollars to that and to try and match some of our community's donations during that stream so really fun thanks for supporting and good cause and all of that and also we got to see a fun overclocking battle now this isn't done Jay and I still have a lot to go head-to-head with and we're both looking forward to getting back to some of the crazier not Alan to stuff crazier being like insane and kind of convoluted chilled or other water cooling setups to try and best each other and overclocking so a lot more to come but thank you for watching and there's your very quick recap if you want to and on the scenes recap J posted a video of course J's two cents on YouTube and he goes through the whole process in about a 15 minute video or so and covers it pretty well so there's your recap on the stream next up and the g-virus bugs can't go forth in a week without talking about BIOS updates right now following Andy's end to difficulties with things like random number instructions for destiny to Linux distributions and the ship to BIOS update it was a GC version one zero zero three a B a previously there is one zero zero three a B sometimes called combo and then there was one zero zero three a 10100 2 so 1 0 0 3 ABA 1003 ABA has been to our understanding retracted at this point and 1003 a B is still the current recommended BIOS update if you're having issues with destiny 2 there will be a fix it is in the pipeline but the 1003 a B a version of the code had some new bugs that asus noted it encountered shamino from asus specifically noted this so they ended up backing off of that that firmware release for now so there are updates on the pipe it should fix the destiny 2 issues should fix some of the other Linux distribution issues but it's just it's too buggy otherwise and as a quick refresher on this and how it works basically Andy provides a prepackaged set of code to the motherboard manufacturers called Ajitha and that code is a binary so they deliver it to the motherboard makers as binary code and then the motherboard makers implement it into their existing UEFI package or their BIOS package and one thing that is not clear for the motherboard manufacturers is what part of the code does what because it's all just binary to our understanding so digging out things like PCIe gen 4 as a toggle switch and retiling it back on isn't as easy as just finding the the commented line of code and changing it they have to actually dig through and figure out which part of the code relates to that feature to then try and sort of hack it back on although it's permitted hack it's not necessarily a quick one to do there's trial and error involved and finding it and obviously some of these vendors have already found it because they've shipped updates that should work with Gen 4 on the older boards but AMD is trying to turn that off going forward anyway though a G's 1003 a BA has been retracted and they will reship it once it's fixed backs up a rumor Intel and AMD both ready and cpu launches for end of year this part is mostly known at this point but there are some rumors in here as well so there's a new report from digit times that suggests that the HCC or high core count CPU wor will heat up this fall the x86 space is as competitive as it's been in years with AMD having just released its Rison 3000 desktop parts the r5 3600 getting a particularly good review from us we also know AMD still has the 16 core 32 thread or 939 50 X waiting in the wings with a committed September launch for that one it's unlikely the am for socket will support anything beyond 16 cores so that leaves the TR socket and the Zen 2 based thread Ripper that's due out at some point something Andy has been tight-lipped about according to digit x citing motherboard vendors as sources and he is making moves to ready thread room for 3,000 parts for an October launch and evil has to do something significant with next-gen thread Ripper particularly at the bottom of the stack because the ro 939 hundred acts already puts tremendous pressure on the threader 429 50x the ro933 X will only exacerbate that and could even punch above its weight class and threaten the threader 429 70 WX early speculation suggests that thread report 3000 could top out at 64 cores and 128 threads with support for eight channel memory but none of this has been confirmed yet Intel's next move though is less clear than Andy's and these pretty much revealed their whole hand at this point for Intel bringing cascade Lake to X 299 in the form of cascade Lake X would be a sensible move that's one scenario there's talk of X 399 glacier falls chipsets ignoring those fake comet Lake slides there's also a comet Lake CPU at some point and tile could begin rolling out certain comet Lake models for Z 390 which is essentially a refreshed coffee like refresh and we were also aware of motherboards codenames z4 98 present but we don't know if that's gonna be the final name for the chipset we know that mother wood manufacturers have what they are calling z4 90 boards whether it's ships that way is to be determined we also know that X 299 the current chipset is what will be used for the next immediate h EDT launch for intel so that X 499 chipset as we already talked about previously that was seen at Computex that was a fake it was a temporary naming it was a 299 chipset it was next to 99 G brand motherboard from gigabyte and that G isn't an Intel thing that's a gigabyte thin so X 299 will persist for the immediate launch X 399 maybe for something after that we don't know and then Z 490 is a thing that's out there whether or not that's the final chipset name we're not certain either so anyway Intel's me was a lot less clear speaking of Intel Intel CEO cited quote aggressive goals as one of the leading causes to blame for its CPU shortage that had been going on for about two years until CEO Robert Swan was recently at the fortune brainstorm tech conference where he discussed a number of topics including what he believes to be a key factor in Intel's pervasive CPU shortage so Juan describes the delay as quote somewhat a function of what we've been able to do in the past which is in essence defying the odds so on further explains by saying quote at a time when it was getting harder and harder we set a more and more aggressive goal from that it just took us longer this is congruent with what Intel has stated in the past about its 10 nanometer hurdle specifically by pursuing a node shrink with an overly aggressive transistor density Intel's obviously encountered some problems Intel's 10 nanometer delay has led to the company having to use it's ironclad grip on many market segments where Andy has been able to make notable progress included in notebooks Chromebooks and the enthusiast segments obviously next news item is about a rebrand another one this one's Toshiba memory and Toshiba memory is going to become cheok si Akio Xie we're not sure kkeok SIA maybe so Toshiba had to spin off its lucrative memory business when it was facing some issues with bankruptcy the smallish is with being bankrupt and this was sold as Toshiba memory corporation for 18 billion dollars to Bain Capital the plan was to eventually go for an IPO and it was still to our knowledge going to be touchable memory but that's changed so ahead of making a public offering the name change in order is supposed to move from the recognizable Toshiba memory to the new we're gonna go with kkeok SIA effective this October and feel free to correct us on the pronunciation so Shiba explains that this new name is a combination of the Japanese word kioku meaning memory and the Greek word axia meaning value may be key axia is it clear that this is a bad name to choose name changes aside there doesn't appear to be any shift and the way toshiba is intending to approach its memory business or former toshiba anyway so Sheba is still recovering from power outages that left it with a severe nand deficit and several acts of Wight's of nand affected discussed in our previous news video and now i guess we'll wait and see what happens with this rebrand and spinoff and these Arcturus could be a Vega based workstation GPU this is another sort of rumor item Sofer onyx managed to grab some lines of code in the Linux drivers that pertain to and these artists GPUs and this suggested that Arcturus could be a Vega based workstation card for onyx specifically spotted GFX 908 device IDs which would be in theory relatable to the GFX 906 and 907 device IDs of previous AMD Vega 20 GPUs so furthermore and these roadmap has indicated that the post Navi graphics cards will be fabricated at 7 nanometre + so Arcturus could be a refreshed Vega 20 presumably with HP m2 and features like ECC the Linux code shows lines for 3 device IDs and the lineup could consist of at least three models so it's possible we might hear more about Arcturus at SIGGRAPH 2019 or at hot chips but that's all we know for now and then finally NZXT is expanding its BLD or build service for pre-built pcs and the reason we're including this news item is specifically because the expansion is adding a couple of Rison parts not something you see from it's getting more popular but not something you see from all of the sis just yet this is something where Andy spoke with us at CES and and weary of this year 2019 about how its most immediate target was to get in front of SI system integrators and get placement and more of the pre-built systems that get shipped because Andy had already felt pretty confident and the enthusiast market at this point and was missing out on the pre-built market for obviously a very wide audience whether or not you think it's worth the money a lot of people do buy pre-built so NZXT these are upgrades here the company is now offering machines through BLD service that are branded as being gaming and streaming machines a unique selling point and one that's valid for sure this will be initially offered in three configurations all shipping the day after ordering interestingly NZXT is using and the second-generation on all the pre-built and they come with the H 500 chassis and DX T's 2-year warranty on purchases things like that for gamers targeting 1080p gaming and zxe starter build includes a rise in v 2600 and an nvidia gtx 1660 the build also comes with 16 gigabytes of RAM and a 500 gigabyte m2 SSD this is NZXT s starter PC they call it and it'll go for $900 for $1000 the user upgrade is gtx 1660 TI and a one terabyte SSD from 1500 and ZT is offering a rise in seven 2700 x and RT x 2070 16 gigabytes of ram and 650 watt psu with a one terabyte SSD all the builds use and these bundles wraith coolers as well as MSI's tomahawk be 450 motherboard so that'll be it's interesting it's interesting because the 2000 series is actually extremely competitive right now especially with a and these newest launches so from that perspective it's it's it's a good time to offer 2000 series systems we're not sure how long those CPUs will be around we don't know if they're still being made or not at the moment or how many are in but apparently there's enough for NZXT and other companies to still offer them so maybe that's the news for the week thanks for watching subscribe for more ways you can get a store that carries excess net sports directly by buying things like our tear down toolkit or our mod mats and you can go to patreon.com/scishow and access if you'd like to support there as well I'll see you all next time
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