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HW News - AMD Going DDR5, HBM for CPUs, & 7nm Challenges

2018-04-17
welcome back to another heartburn news recap for the past week the first half of the show is basically the AMD news show and we have a couple of big items including AMD working on ddr5 memory and near memory this is a GN exclusive story and we'll have more of those later and a couple of other things following up on the rx 500 X series of video cards the AMD veteran Chris hook leaving AMD and then we have not AMD news about future mark microcode patches and the difficulties of modern fabrication process before that this video is brought to you by Corsairs new dark tour RGB se Mouse the dark poor RGB se is a wireless gaming mouse rated for up to 24 hours of continuous wireless gaming with the LEDs enabled and can be coupled with a Qi charging mouse pad for easy battery charging it has both wireless and Bluetooth antenna so the mouse can be used easily on two systems and switched between them learn more at the link in the description below so prior to the news items for the week a quick update on the mod mats we've shipped most of them for this round thank you to all of you who have purchased some and that includes a couple of our friends in the media and reviewers on YouTube who've received a few I think Joker was probably the first one to put a tweet out that he was using it so thank you Joe for trying it out of course given the current trends in the industry we did actually pre overclock the mats and make sure that they can reach our specification of 5.2 gigahertz before setting them out so the reviewers do have higher overclocking mats but the rest of them are still perfectly good work services so if you haven't checked it out go to store that gamers Nexus dotnet give a look at the new mod map we have a matte black background now by which I mean it's literally a black colored mat and super grippy as a result we're very happy with this production run and we're still improving as we go so yeah we still have a few mats left from the existing round you can get those orders in now if you want one they are shipping as they come in but we do have another order coming in straight after that it'll be a bit of a delay if you put your orders in now that you should get one before the current rounds sold out first major news item AMD working on ddr5 memory and what we understand it's called near memory so this is a bit of a jeon exclusive item we got tipped recent by a highly credible source that we've confirmed works at one of the major memory suppliers so we've got several stories we can write here but we're gonna start with this one our present understanding is that AMD is working with at least one memory supplier to establish an RD lab at a AMD's Austin campus and this labs entire purpose is through research ddr5 and develop ddr5 for the next generation of system memory and he's trying to be Intel to the market with this one and although that's not necessarily news competitors always trying to beat each other this is serious and he really wants to be first with ddr5 from what we understand so they've also been the first with several other memory standards they're now a consumed ati company that they bought was the first with several standards for GDD our video memory so this looks real DDR 5 is what they're working on now and separately we also learned that Andy is working on what they call near memory or HBM being used in conjunction with future CPU components so we're not clear presently on whether that includes desktop CPUs in the immediate future but we do know that AMD is working on our d4 HBM for CPUs not just GPUs and that's actively being developed so a given hades Canyon that's not necessarily a big surprise but the fact that it's coming to AMD processors is noteworthy for sure and I would assume at some point you see that in some level of in the very least a high-end mobile processor if not desktop components that the latter would come much later because does make a lot of sense in in mobile processing devices again look at Hades Canyon the next news item again at AMD item and the veteran Chris hook has left AMD after 17 years working their hooks roll at AMD was within the Radeon Technology Group previously was at ATI and with an RTG he served as the senior director of global product marketing and hook is headed to a new presently undisclosed position outside of AMD at the end of April and they already announced a replacement for Chris hook and this news comes not long after Rajat Kaduri left Radeon Technologies group and went over to Intel rajae and Chris Hooke have worked together for a long time it's possible that Chris hook goes over to Intel that's what a lot of the rumors have stated but there's not really anything to confirm that right now certainly some kind of major vendor Qualcomm Intel one of those is the most likely Chris hook also if you're not aware was responsible for a lot of the and the marketing strategies he was responsible for organizing a lot of the press technical events and things like that press events off-site learning about new products and is moving over to some other company now so also was behind a lot of the PR opportunities and story opportunities as well so Chris hook definitely played a big role in the perception of AMD in the industry and we'll see how his replacement follows up on that next one rx 500 x-series so this is more boring than previously thought as if that were possible if you thought that rx 500 X news from last week was boring I've got something better for you this one is a basically we thought that the rx 500 x-series which was posted accidently by an the early would be a pre pre overclock of Polaris like the rx 500 series was in actuality it's an OEM rebrand of the rx 500 series with no pre overclock or pre pre overclock in this case so the only change is the 500 550 X the other 500 X cards no changes at all from what we've seen thus far clock speeds are the same specs are the same everything is the same they're just om rebrands five-hit DX has a ski that's slightly faster but that's it so yeah that was a much more boring than expected next one industry challenges with seven nanometer and five nanometer process for fabrication the timelines for shrinking process nodes and the evolution of semiconductor manufacturing maybe reaching new challenges there bit in question now if they weren't already and this is given trouble specifically that Intel AMD have already had and Tom's been struggling for quite a while now to get 10 nanometer working the way they want a report out of EE times echoes the sentiment that doesn't seem to be a magic bullet for the ills of manufacturing at 5 nanometer and 7 nanometer with UV lithography random defects are popping up in the form of imperfect holes tears and lines shorts wear holes or lines meet and worse yet it allegedly takes days to find these anomalies and imperfections on silicon this small this makes defects and yield a chief concern at five nanometers and seven animators foundry processes and company roadmaps targeting 20/20 with optical shrinks could be out of the window now next up future mark recently announced that they will further integrate with ul or underwriters laboratories citing their merger in 2014 on April 23rd 2018 future mark will become UL benchmarks additionally all social media accounts will be rebranded and their website will be relocated to benchmarks UL com aside from the looks future Marcus shares everything else will remain the same benchmark brands such as 3d mark PC Marquette cetera purchased benchmarks and benchmark scores will all remain the same and will continue to receive support any processors also just received a Windows patch aimed at mitigating the specter variant - vulnerability at the operating system level this is following several Intel patches which have had somewhat murky launches they've been issued and recalls and things like that AMD is just pushing some of theirs now though Andy has published micro code updates for their processors dating back to 2011 and that starts with the first line of bulldozer based CPUs specifically the OS level fix takes the form of I read it here KB for 0 9 3 1 1 2 and centers around to indirect branch prediction barriers and and the chips and he has also released a white paper citing their Specter efforts and detailing what they're doing to mitigate and hopefully deal with all those vulnerability exploits and concerns in laptop news asus is preparing to trot out three new laptops speculatively aimed at the esports crowd these include the ROG Strix GL 503 GL 703 and tough gaming FX 504 these models offered two different CPU configurations and i-5 8300 h or i 78758 all models pair the Intel coffee-like CPU with either a 50 or 10 50 TI both the tough gaming FX 504 and ROG Strix GL 503 offer a 120 Hertz TN display the GL 703 offers a 60 Hertz IPS display and all displays are 1080p different storage and memory options of course are available for all models no word on pricing or availability as of now the last major news item is on Corsairs release of a new high-end dominated platinum series the previous one was the Dominator platinum se torque and the new one is the special edition contrast the ddr4 modules feature basically recognizable Dominator heat spreaders and this time they've got some black and white aesthetic going on worthy of the contrast namesake it's it's creative they're working on it regardless the 32 gigabyte kits are based on Samson's beat IIC is something that everyone should be paying attention to right now and only come in 32 gigabyte capacities in both dual and quad channel configurations out of the box the kit runs a ddr4 3466 frequency with XMP on with timings major timings configured to 16 18 18 36 and of course there's new kit if you're wondering rights at $440 for 2 by 16 gigabytes or 480 for 4 by 8 gigabytes that's it for the major news items for the week as always go to patreon.com/scishow Nexus helps out 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