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everyone welcome to another hardware news episode this one we're talking about ddr5 coming up actually they're a couple of functional demos now DDR 540 400 megahertz memory looking at 6000 plus megahertz for the future of that one then we'll also be talking about Intel and AMD having some naming annoyances with their chipsets because apparently that's how childish the industry has become that we need to just name things in anticipation of the competing product names in the future so we talk about that for a little bit as well before that this video is brought to you by thermal takes view 37 case the view 37 focuses on highlighting custom PC builds with its full panoramic window and tinted front acrylic and our thermal testing the view 37 performed reasonably well when considering its looks focused build which is partly thanks to the airflow design and the removal of a bottom power supply shroud for a balance of looks and performance check the link in the description below for the view 37 first up the big news item which is DDR 5 micron worked with cadence to demonstrate new ddr5 memory just recently and that was using a cadence test chip and IMC that will be jointly targeted at SOC manufacturers for ddr 5 preparation these are people who will be developers not consumers the ddr 5 demonstrations started with 40 400 megahertz memory that was at CL 42 that's right CL 42 it was for 8 gigabytes of memory operating that 100 millivolts lower than ddr4 ISM low and voltage micron is targeting an eventual 60 400 megahertz frequency but the immediate future is in the 4 thousands for frequency micron and cadence both noted that ddr5 presently is more of a capacity play than it is a performance play so ddr5 is looking at increasing the density to 16 and 32 gigabit dies with internal ECC supported for people who need it and that overall the yields should be improved according to the two companies DDR fives also meant to stick to the 288 pins standard of ddr4 that we're currently using for the pin out and adding other new features like built-in voltage regulators and power management surrogates will also be interesting though presently sure how much of that will be consumer-facing versus enterprise and server we don't know much more than what JEDEC has said and what micron and cadence showed up the recent demonstration but an attack has a great article detailing the initial showing and cadence predicts that ddr5 will overtake ddr4 by 2022 quick note here the CL 42 thing this is a super early demo they'll probably be tightened a bit by launch but also if you go back and look at the era of ddr3 - ddr4 you'll notice that ddr3 had tighter times than ddr4 as well so that's the nature of increasing speeds especially when you're focusing on things like capacity with the er5 so we'll see how that develops but for now we've got the first functional demo it looks like that's actually looking kind of promising so ddr5 going places and we'll see if they're predicting 20 22 for mass adoption not sure if that's server data center or if it's consumer as well but you could expect platforms would support it obviously before then next one AMD and Intel naming lunacy so we already know that Intel's working on is e3 90 platform we've known that for a while it looks like Andy is also working on its own Z series platform something that hasn't had any time in recent history at least not with Verizon and that's gonna be called z4 90 which is exactly 100 digits higher than Intel's and that's looking to launch in June of July we're not positive what z4 90 will bring to the table from AMD we just know that it will exist and we've independently confirmed that so the leaks from blue chip with distribution partner look to be legitimate we have a roadmap from blue chip that shows Intel's the first eight core engineering samples due for June according to the leaked and Intel's it Z 390 platform targeted for third quarter 2018 the engineering samples obviously predate the retail samples so we're looking at third quarter for eight core CPUs to ship on Z 390 and Andy's be 450 lower-end platform will be shipping in July to August of this year likely with a few units showing behind closed doors at Computex if not publicly thread referred to is also known for August and was already publicly known for that date and that's still on track so here's where the annoying part comes in you talk about GPP and needing clarity for gamers you know what could actually use a GPP motherboards and motherboard vendors so here we've got B 250 this is Intel we have B 350 this was AMD Rison and clearly was a sort of job at Intel maybe take over some of them it kind of makes sense because Andy was the underdog coming in with Rison and so to build on top of ins house known and understood naming meant that Andy had fewer walls to break down when they're trying to get to new consumers so that's part of it then you have stuff like be 360 which is Intel I had to look at the Box can't keep them straight anymore and now we've got B 450 coming out and some other stuff too so the problem I have with this is like I get it Andy came in trying to get it trying to take some of the recognition that Intel had in terms of people understand it what the product is so they had r3 r5 r7 pretty clear what those are if you understand Intel's naming scheme makes a lot of sense I'm pretty much okay with that I would have liked something like R 4 R 6 r 8 because that would be the core count of each of those things for the most part - the 1500 X but that's how we got we got an Intel equivalent naming that's fine what I've got more problems with is the ongoing chipset naming equivalents Intel doesn't want to budge probably because they're like we did this first and Andy is just keeping with what they started with Rison so now we've got chipsets that in the worst cases our 10 digits apart and name or in normal cases 100 digits apart name because I am thieves are trying to be a hundred higher than Intel and therefore be better I guess they also do the whole frontier edition versus founders Edition thing but it's it's annoying it's annoying as a reviewer even we work with this stuff every day and when writing stuff we still have to go back and double-check that we say beet 360 or B 350 and it's kind of hard to keep track of as reviewers even especially with the stuff coming up see see 490 be 450 all that stuff so for consumers especially those who aren't like you all people who come back once every three years to build the system it's gonna get really confusing really fast and I think Andy if built up a lot of good good will with Rison it's clearly a part that's highly competitive and should do well and is doing well maybe it's time to take your own naming do something unique or or I don't know even in tell I guess create something new but if we could just stop copying each other like children that would be great either one of you just just one vendor please do something different for the naming it's gotten a bit crazy next one speaking of things that are annoying cami Lake acts Kimmy the hex was the worst received CP that we reviewed last year it's the one that I tossed on the table and that one intel has announced the end of life status for Katie like axe which i think is less than a year old it was good for a few things it was good for memory overclocking they had pretty strong IMC's the engineering samples especially they were okay for overclocking and when I say that I mean competitive overclocking as a consumer part completely utterly pointless and wasteful and no one should have bought them and apparently no one did because they've killed them so the i5 7640 axe which is probably the stupidest part and the IEEE 777 for TX both four core parts that made up the low end of Intel's X 299 compatible h EDT line those are now dead and they're relatively low value anyway given X 2 99 requires a much more premium motherboard generally and no vendors were catering to those cable ax parts anyway also a thread ripper took away some of the thunder from the low-end h EDT parts anyway so yeah there's a dead now that's good news let's move on to the next one Intel using China factories for additional coffee lake assembly and testing intel announced that they'll be using facilities in china as a test and assemble the core i5 and i7 coffee like cpus intel says this will allow them to further increase supply of the six core coffee like variants starting in May consumers can expect to see like CPUs that is i7 8700 K 8780 600 K 580 400 on the market that have been tested and assembled in Chengdu China intelligence that all procedures and production methods are the same across the global production facilities next one the specter intensifies hisin magazine let me get the name right C apostrophe T please sure that's how it's pronounced C apostrophe T released a report that suggested a new set of Spector vulnerabilities looming presently known as Spectre and G and T L responded to the report via its blog and directly responded and stated that the company is working closely with partners and everyone else in the industry chip makers noted specifically to understand the vulnerabilities and attack vectors for the new Spectre variants the company recommended keeping systems up-to-date for safety for the time being and has announced no additional information on Spectre ng the C apostrophe T publication got ahead of any official NDA lifts kind of like what happened previously and highlighted that 8cv e or common vulnerability enumerator attacks are in need of standalone patches some of which are coming up in May from Intel so they're already ahead of this a bit the magazine claims that Intel is already working on two rounds of patches again targeted for May and C posture PT lightly detailed an attack that could affect cloud server hosts similar to meltdown which would be exploited via VM host attack vectors arm and Intel are most possibly affected and AMD might be AMD is affected by one existing Spectre attack variant that we know of but there's nothing concrete either way on the current documentation for the new Spectre attack factors this one's sort of interesting bike ski bike sky whatever introduced two new water cooling components this week both of which are inline thermal monitors for open-loop liquid cooling the components mount to the fittings and use an inline thermistor at water inlet for monitoring as of now it doesn't look like there's a way to export the state of the software unfortunately and it appears limited to on device readings bikes guy also released a real-time thermal monitor for video cards named the B VGA SCAL complementing the tme and it works the same way the materials are anodized aluminum materials including marketing and silliness about being aircraft grade aluminum hopefully they're also made with aircraft grade discomfort from the awful marketing the units are priced at forty to fifty dollars for each of them Corsair announced the new spec oh five case this week so that's it just like most the other cases in the world right now as a largely closed off front panel it's got some side intake and a weird sort of artsy wannabe cut in the front of it that should let some amount of air through I guess we'd like to see that front slit wide end more so that can let more air in kind of like the one that we Emily showed at CES not the dynamic or the Oh 11 but the other case because that would at least get you some functional amount of air through there and still be kind of a design element but for now it's another limited airflow case this one has an acrylic window though it's at $50 so at least it's affordable the next story is an interesting one from just the industry in general and a waste recycler undercutting Microsoft is being sued and it looks like sentenced to a 15 month prison term and a $50,000 fine for the alleged infringement of Microsoft's products and profits by attempting to resell restore discs Eric Lundgren made 28 thousand of the discs and intended selling these repair discs to computer refurbishers for about 25 cents apiece according to Microsoft this is copyright infringement and counterfeits traffic Microsoft asserts that while software licenses are transferable commercial resellers must purchase a new license for $25 not 25 cents also of note Eric Lundgren the one who was sued and has been sentenced seemed to indicate that he didn't think anyone in the courtroom understood what a repair disk was probably realistic so lankan argued that his discs had no value to Microsoft or anyone else and that they were only intended to be used to restore systems with an existing OS license the idea being that it limits the amount of people throwing they're decent computers away from a hardware perspective because they need to restore their software because they had a virus or whatever this is for people who go to repair shops not anyone who watches this channel for the most part so the court concluded that Lundgren's 28,000 discs were worth $700,000 he paid fewer than five cents apiece for them and that amount warrants apparently a 15 month prison stay and 50,000 dollars in fines a lawyer for Microsoft alleges that the sales of quote fit operating systems displaces Microsoft's potential sales of genuine operating systems long granted his attorney said that the court has set a precedent for Microsoft and other software makers to pursue criminal cases against those seeking to tackle a waste and extend the lifespan of computers kind of falls into the right to repair bucket for that one and then finally also leave your thoughts below on that I'll kind of leave mine out and just see what you all think hardware sales for the week the r7 1700 is looking really good right now that's 220 to 250 dollars the pen out if you look at New Ager Amazon will put links in the description below for that sale at that price it's worth buying it over the 2000 series our sevens if you're kind of budget conscious because we do really like the r7 1700 mostly if you overclock it if you're willing to overclock it to 3.9 or 4.0 it's an incredibly competitive processor primarily in production it does well enough in gaming at this price point to be worth a buy so we'll leave a link down there for that an EVGA supernova 650 Jiwon fully modular power supply is also currently marked down 17% at time of filming we'll leave a link for that one as well if you're looking for a new power supply in the 650 watt range that's all for this one as always subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow and action stops out directly gonna store it I came as an excess net pick up one of our 3d laser engrave tear down crystals with our 3d logo in it it's pretty cool or the GN anti-static mod mat thanks for watching I'll see you all next time