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HW News: GDDR6 Speed Beats Expectations, Intel & Minix Response

2017-11-13
everyone welcome back to another hardware news recap for the last week this time we have information on the Intel MINIX OS implementation also talking about the photos of the Andy and Intel MCM integration along with the Samsung GDD are six memory progress we'll call it and video has quarterly results coroner's got a new world's fastest kit and thermal tank has a chair that blows air at your butt so that's what this week before getting to that this coverage is brought to you by EVGA and NVIDIA with the destiny to 1080 Ti bundle a 1080i SC to comes with a synchronous fan control for its dual fans and nine thermal sensors and again includes destiny to learn more at the link in the description below Cyril tank has their new ex comfort chair x4 extreme and its extreme comfort because it plugs into the wall and it's not what you think it's not RGB LEDs no in fact it is for fans that are inside of the butt cushion housing I guess for the chair so these four fans for first of all let's talk about presentation here so they're all takes image promoting this chair shows hot air entering the fans and coming out into the the rear end region as cold air now generally speaking that's not really how air works it doesn't it doesn't enter hot and then enter into the case cold for example shower works in the case it's not how it works with a chair either so what that image would actually depict is that it blasts your butt with hot air um it unless it has a refrigerating unit inside of it or something but either way it's got four fans in it and it moves there and those fans if you weren't already worried enough about them it's been at 5100 rpm at the high end 5100 rpm is faster than a Vega reference cooler which is like 70 decibels of noise let's hit that at 4900 rpm now to be fair the Thermaltake fans are larger so they won't be as loud but there are also four of them but then to be fair again they're embedded inside of a cushion and if you didn't believe that the chair actually works let's take a look at the thermal image from the marketing materials first of all what's with the scale look at that scale it's 24 degrees Celsius to 28 degrees Celsius so we've got a really small scale which exaggerated the differences and here's the best part look at dark blue the hottest dark blue temperature is 25 point five and the coldest bright red temperature which of course looks bad is twenty six point five we have a difference of one degree Celsius and yellow occupy something like that maybe 26 the twenty six point three so what's with the scale thermaltake come on and please yeah the chair itself that if you look at it we've got some basically temperature values when people sat in it versus okay okay it's not the most scientific test but either way we've got thermal images for it I guess and those thermal images mostly show 0.5 degrees Celsius differences also the chair plugs into the wall and has wheels so just kind of leave that there so yeah well that's that's what chairs have come to now if there's really no differentiation and two tooth or whole takes credit the chairs now are all from the same supplier so HyperX and verdaguer and Corsair and Thermaltake and basically you name it they all at least have some parts from the same supplier so they're not that different and what you end up with is things like this or things like the whatever company previously did an RGB LED chair so yeah other than that it's got the four dimensional armrest which means that they move four directions and so does every other game in chair on the market and it's got a 331 pound weight limit and I guess the extra fans could be used to make it a hover chair if you're a lighter or something that chair by there will cost $500 and the only thing we're looking for next so they're all saying taking ideas here my suggestion to improve the product would be consider so you've already thought about something that gamers need which is cooling and now consider the next option which is an integrated septic tank that would be my suggestion to you you can have that one for free Thanks topic also gaming chairs OFM enters the gaming chair market with the aptly titled I guess respawn series because we need to make sure it sounds gamer to sell the gamers so this is a North Carolina based company it's called OFM and they're entering the already crowded and obviously desperate to differentiate gaming chair market with their new respawn line that starts at $140 so it's it's not the the Paramount $500 for fan chair but it's more of a normal chair eight models in total different colors features specifications and the low end models 140 the high end is 225 they're worth looking at I guess but it's all it's all chairs that's how they are they do now a few years ago it was all peripherals and now it's all chairs we reported on the Intel AMD collaboration about a week ago where the two companies are working on a multi chip module or MCM that features eighth generation Intel Core CPUs the H Series CPUs along with discrete and the graphics rumors have since indicated that it's a potential Polaris graphics chip in there not Vega which from a competitive standpoint would mean Andy could stay a generation ahead so that makes some sense and that's not been confirmed though so holdout on that one what has been more or less confirmed though is what the package looks like in its present state and this is a pretty clear actual photo of the thing not like a faked leak or anything so this photo was posted on beyond 3d it shows the package which hosts the Intel CPU and the GPU and HBM all on a single substrate the Intel component will still include its IGP despite the AMD GPU inclusion and the idea is that the IGP will be used to take over for lower load video playback and decode tasks things like that whereas the AMD GP will be used for actual compute processing and video workloads that requires some power so the result is the IGP is power savings when you're not using the GPU and it is basically d GPU it's not integrated into the CPU and then you have the power savings otherwise so that's really the only advancement it's the new photo on beyond 3d as for other Intel news Intel using MINIX has been pretty big over the past few weeks and there have been a couple of developments on it so to recap this for anyone who's missed it last week saw the reveal that Intel uses a negative rein so it's rein negative 3 for its management engine and that's where exists a lightweight OS that was built by Andrew Tannenbaum who is an educator on operating systems and this MINIX OS was initially released under the berkeley license so although MINIX wasn't intended for use in cpus or pc h's or really any product outside of educational scenarios it's also not illegal to use medics in a corporate setting or in a product the license permits freedom to use and modify the code without compensation or technically without any meaningful attribution so then we fast forward from the berkeley license release of MINIX in 2002 today and what we have is that intel has deployed the OS on a negative rein and all of its CPUs and skylake running on a CPU core when you've enabled it to do so and related to this more news emerges of possible exploits via physical access like with a USB device where you can gain access to a system through this lower-level OS so it's a possible security concern as well so that catches everyone up but it's not today's news it does give back story though today's news is that Tannenbaum released a public letter to Intel again the creator of MINIX is Tannenbaum and he noted that although he doesn't seek compensation it quote would have been nice if Intel let him know that MINIX was basically the world's most used OS on x86 CPUs now Tannenbaum had previously answered questions from Intel about reducing the memory footprint of MINIX but wasn't told the context of those questions he had assumed that it was some sort of Ethernet or graphics chip development Tenenbaums letter added a note post publication stating that quote I think creating George Orwell's 1984 is an extremely bad idea even if Orwell is off by about 30 years people should have complete control over their computers not Intel and not the government Tannenbaum also stated that quote putting a possible spy in every computer is a terrible development well links to sources for the full letter and the article links below in the description but that's kind of where we stand right now still waiting to see if Intel has a response and still waiting to see the implications of all of this but basically Tannenbaum is the new development he's actually spoken and has a pretty reasonably sized letter that addresses all this it's an interesting read so check that out next news item is Samson and GDD are six allegedly hitting 16 Giga transfers per second which is beyond the initial projections and targets Samsung has already collected a CES Innovation Award for its GDD are six memory which seems to be turning out better than expected originally Samsung stated that their GDD our six target would offer at throughput of fourteen gigabits per second however the memory appears to already be heading through bits of 16 gigabits per second that's much higher than both gddr5 and 5x which launched at 10 but has bumped up to 11 gigabits per second moreover the memory subsystem should operate at one point three five volts compared to the one point five volts it currently takes to drive gddr5 X we don't yet know about the timings of the memory which are a major player in performance for all of these gd-r types of memory at lower matched clocks to GG dr v g5 x performs significantly worse in gaming tasks when consider an entire memory latency it makes up for this with the frequency bump the frequency largely makes up for this in Pascal but latency will remain a question for D gr 6 so we'll have more information about that probably at CES Nvidia posted its financial results for its third fiscal quarter marking a 32 percent climb year-over-year in revenue at 2.6 4 billion dollars up from two billion and video noted growth an AI and data center also noting gaming and automotive technologies as growing sectors where for automotive the Drive px Pegasus was announced as an autonomous taxi solution Nvidia also noted adoption by cloud computing Giants of the volta V 100 GPU the role of PC hardware releases isn't that much different from the world of posting a comment on YouTube things like first often come up regularly or fastest or best or any other superlative you can name for the most part Corsair is the latest to employ superlatives in their marketing materials Corsair has announced what they call the world's fastest 4 by 8 gigabyte ddr4 memory kit and this is a 32 gigabyte total kit which they have claimed is 43 33 megahertz the new Vengeance lpx kits use Samsung ICS and eight layer PCBs with the easily recognizable heat spreaders affixed to those timings come in at CL 19 - 26 26 46 at one point 3 5 volts and availability is listed as December 2017 with no current word on pricing though that seems to be in flux as always last news item EK WB is expanding their cool stream s eseries with 420 milliliter and 560 millimeters slim radiators so EK has two new options for the cool stream se lineup and they have 0 overhand brass cores and use a 22 GPU fin density with standard G quarter-inch ports the cool stream se 420 will go for $90 and the bigger five sixty millimeter variant will go for $110 so that's it for this week in hardware news as always you can go to gamers access dotnet to pick up the rest of the stories as they're published throughout the week stored on cameras X's - net dot net to grab a shirt like this one a hat like this one or an Xbox fixed team sticker like that one and patreon.com/scishow and exit elves that directly thank you for watching I'll see you all next time
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