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HW News - Intel Asks: "Is Intel Screwed?", DisplayPort 2.0 & 16K Monitor Support

2019-06-29
welcome back to another hardware news recap despite the upcoming massive launch week there's still a lot of news to talk about for example one of the news items sees Intel using the words secret sauce which is disgusting in 100% of these sentences you could use the phrase in Intel also recognizes Andy as quote formidable that's from an Intel internal document and we'll be talking about that today it is a very long document but we've got just a page of it here to talk about Huawei and Microsoft's support and updates to talk about in that ongoing story about - dropping 32-bit support bringing it back Intel supporting an integer scaling and some AMD news as well before that this video is brought to you by the EVGA gtx 1660 XC black video card EVGA is gtx 1660 XC black uses a fat heatsink to allow the card to run at lower noise levels for longer capable of sinking more heat before the fan kicks in and also has a day one game ready drivers for game launches the 1660 XC black is short and compact for installations a small form-factor pc build but if you need one that isn't extra thick it's also accompanied by a dual fan counterpart with a thinner heatsink for standard dual slot support learn more at the links in the description below so first up the toolkit launch from last week has gone over very well thank you for your tremendous support on it we still have them on store documents nexus dotnet we bought a lot of inventory this time because one moq is high for this and economies of scale are never in your favor as a small company but we were able to pull together a really awesome tool kit so store like every seconds net if you want to check it out it has been very popular so far thank you for the support as I said Intel recognizing AMD as resurgent in the CPU space especially pointing out its capacity to compete in servers which Intel says will be the most heated market segment that it has embattled AMD in for a while and it'll be the most heated the server segment has been in years which is really not a surprise to anybody following the space so an internal Intel document has leaked onto reddit that outlines the competitive profile of AMD and this is all according to Intel the letter title quote anticompetitive profile where we go toe to toe why they are resurgent which chips of ours beat theirs analyzes and these rise to competitiveness with no shortage of Intel bias and as a quick aside whoever titled that document don't get into YouTube you'll you'll be bad at it it is the most important thing about a YouTube video so however the letter does say that andis competitive threat to Intel is acknowledged as the quote greatest it has been in years again that's accurate factually the letter does go on to look at AMD's growth its success with Rison and its newfound surge on the stock market the letter also defines key competitive threats from Andy's upcoming seven enemy to Rome and these continued push into winning over cloud providers and the value of offering its HPC high-end parts to the HPC market Intel also recognizes the advantage of Andy partnering with the leading tsmc foundry and having am these chips on an advanced note the answer to all of this according to Intel is its secret sauce which is probably the same stuff they put in BO sauce so Intel says that it's got some pillars something that AMD softened done as well everyone's got their pillars in Silicon Valley Intel says its pillars will be the secret answer to Andy and it defines them as following process architecture memory interconnect security and software and these are the six pillars that Intel says will coalesce to form its secret sauce to stave off AMD security being the noteworthy one Intel noted that quote AMD offers high-performance CPUs posing direct competition to Intel in both our core clients and data center CPU businesses with our announced ambitions to bring new discrete graphics to market we are bringing new competition to both AMD's and and videos graphics businesses and the company further stated quote Andy has recently been gaining some traction and winning public cloud offerings and competition from AMD is shaping up to be especially tough in high-performance computing HPC performance is usually driven by a number of cores and the number of memory channels or memory with intel is challenged on both fronts and this is something that we actually to step back from this story a little bit we talked with Gordon at Computex from PC worlds Gordon Myon from PC world and talked with him about is Intel screwed that was the question a lot of commentators had said it around Computex time when the announcements were happening and so we wanted to address it spend a half an hour doing so what we did not expect was for Intel to try and answer that question I mean of course they have competitive analysts and this as an aside may be interesting to you more interesting less surprising Intel does apparently employ someone whose entire job is to be the AMD competitive analyst the expert at Intel so this isn't really news every major company has competitive analysts we had them at Dell when I worked there but you know I don't really hear about them as a consumer it's it's not a public-facing so in tiles competitive analysts did not paint a good picture and his replies the internal QA that Intel did are pretty honest I guess the interesting thing though is that there's there's a lot of talk always in the consumer space of is Intel in trouble or is AMD in trouble or whatever and it's kind of like people like watching this boxing match of these giant companies beating each other bloody to steal Gordon's quote when Nvidia took it for RTX the difference I guess this time is that it feels more real like it feels like there's some urgency to the situation from Intel's end especially reading this document which you can do to its online and normally you don't really get that feeling normally especially in a position of media you become kind of jaded to the people talking about company a is in trouble because guess what next quarter company B might be in trouble and it's just a back and forth that seems perpetual so yeah this this is quite a bit different but the secret sauce was criticized by an Intel employee who commented on the internal memo saying the following the quote secret sauce section of this article personally makes me cringe there isn't one piece of evidence that makes me hopeful for Intel in the short term when it comes to competing vs. AMD no numeric said all except for how big our former software and services group is having more software engineers than AMD not convincing technology portfolio not convincing especially given that AMD has much more graphics and gaming technology expertise a IDL expertise it's pretty clear that we are following in this regard as well Andy is on fire especially given its size they continually squeak out new products with fewer people and have leapfrog to our hardware several times in the past they have a competitive product with far more cores and threads which is a huge marketing ploy and has been what our customers have been asking for there's no excuse for why we didn't do the same and now we're in a race to catch up at a time where we are hemorrhaging talent while also feeling the consequences of the past five to eight years of management decisions in the way we manage our CPU teams and the priorities of that management so again that's an internal comment from someone who works at Intel and I don't believe the the full names of these people were shared in that thread and hopefully that will remain true because it's internal it's not meant to be out there and they're speaking their minds which is good for Intel hopefully it's one listen so anyway while there's no new exciting announcements within the letter it does provide some insight to how Intel is surveying the situation with a and these resurgence and how the company plans to deal with the challenges that it hasn't had to face or that it hasn't faced in years and that'll wrap that one but we'll link the article in our show notes below if you would like to read the full Intel memo as a quick aside too we wanted to give a shout out this week to e postbox on youtube so e burrows fox post streaming focused content and he did a follow-up to our streaming look for HT 6 for streaming quality and did a phenomenal job of testing just about everything so when way off the deep end with it and for people who might have had questions about for example faster-paced footage that was a common request or criticism of our content and a valid one for people who want to see that go check out a postboxes video he talked about that he confirms a lot of our findings and then he also has some some new findings a lot of them actually and he also has a lot of additional day like psnr for example so definitely check him out will link his video in the description below and it's 30 minutes so I it's about the length that everyone on this channel should expect at this point so you should be good on that one watch the whole thing well worth it for a quality comparison for streaming just wanted to point that out separately because it's it's good work Intel Microsoft will support hallway with security updates for now and the ongoing story talking about the blacklist for huawei by the US government while always future is uncertain in the Western Hemisphere after the US government's trade blacklist at least Intel Microsoft have confirmed they will continue to support the companies and its devices with critical updates quote we remain committed to providing exceptional customer experiences our initial evaluation of the US Department of Commerce's decision on Huawei has indicated we may continue to offer Microsoft software updates to customers with Huawei devices Microsoft said two PC world PC world also stated that it has received confirmation from Intel that the chip maker would continue to support Huawei and its devices or Intel based ones anyway the news should at least partly its wage any concerned consumer who may be in possession of one of huawei's laptops or other devices and this is something we'll continue to follow going forward canonical announced recently that they would be dropping 32-bit support beginning with Ubuntu 1910 meaning anything that relies on 32-bit libraries or binaries would likely be broken valve evidently seen the writing on the wall for Ubuntu and turn announced it would be dropping official support for future avanti releases and would cease to recommend it as well as shifting focus to a new distribution the set Linux gamers and developers into an uproar and now canonical has walked that decision back quote thanks to the huge amount of feedback this weekend from gamers Ubuntu studio and the wine community we will change our plan and build selected 32-bit I 386 packages for Ubuntu 1910 and 2004 LTS stated in a blog post so at least in the near term 32-bit Ubuntu will survive and I'm sorry if you say it a different way I truly am but that is how that is how I've said it for about 10 years so it's not changing it this point AMD recruits Frank Azer from Dell Frank Azer was almost my boss at one point when I was applying for positions at Alienware and Dell back in the day before really doing this full time and it up at Dell though at a different team but AMD has purportedly recruited Alienware co-founder Frank azer who is rumored to assume the mantle of chief gaming officer at AMD Heiser has been with talented absorbed Alienware back in 2006 and most recently he served as a vice president and general manager for dell brands such as Alienware XPS and the G Series and separately Gordon MA on executive editor at PC world and men shouting that clouds outside the tweeted at pre-k has her accidentally to try and ask if it was official but anyway check Gordon out on Twitter he's awesome and you should definitely follow him he does shout at the sky sometimes but that's a different thing so little is known about what exactly Frank will be doing or Asia will be doing that AMD but we can't assume it will be related to helping and the further extent its ability to target the gaming market and enthusiasts segments and the slowly gaining ground in the gaming notebooks Edwin it took a long time but it's happening and this is one that has all but shut AMD out up until recently so that'll be news to follow in a post on the Alienware site as I mentioned his last day at Dell will be a July 3rd Intel to support two integer scaling Intel's lease appears confirmed via Twitter that Intel will support engineer scaling and upscaling technique with its Gen 11 graphics and future Intel XE graphics cards Pierce noted that the patch would roll out in August to the Intel graphics command center that will enable integer scaling support and so continues to take a community centric approach for its graphics ambitions and integer scaling support should certainly resonate well with its users and the Nvidia have been petitioned to add this feature but to date they only employ bilinear or bicubic interpolation of scaling techniques well companies like AMD Intel and arm are no doubt lamenting the trade war with China which has culminated it in a trade ban against Huawei there's at least one chip maker that sees this as an opportunity and it's sy5 which recently as an aside acquired one of the former and the marketing talents it's a chip start-up and it's based in California designs chips based on the open source Ras CV architecture and plans to help Chinese tech companies between themselves off of us-based technology quote we are going to expand big-time in China the trade war has helped us a lot because it convinced China to do more chips inside the country and we are helping them do so so I 5 president and CEO Naveed irani said it became clear to us about three or four years ago that a trade war was going to happen and the action we took is building a completely independent company in China the restrictions of the u.s. entity list do not apply the open source technology and sci-fi have intentionally set up an independent China based branch under the name Shanghai siphon technology company according to Nikkei Asian review site 5 is currently baking a 5g mobile chip based on wrist v and it currently has over 100 licenses for his risk V chip designs some of Syfy's customers include Qualcomm and SK Hynix furthermore the companies backed by Intel Samsung and Western Digital shravani has stated that sci-fi is current risk ve chips are approaching arm the eight performance parity and within a year they could ellipse arm v8 some display technology news for people who are display enthusiasts visa has announced that it's DisplayPort 2.0 specification is coming up and the first supported products are coming in late 2020 visa announced it's DisplayPort 2.0 specification and it may be the biggest revision that the standard has ever received in terms of raw bandwidth DisplayPort 2.0 is preparing for 8 K and Beyond by almost tripling the available bandwidth over the previous 1.3 1.4 specs DisplayPort 2.0 is targeting a data rate of 80 gigabits per second or 20 gigabits per second per Lane this means that DP 2.0 will support 8k at 60 Hertz or I'll also allowing for 30 bit color depth they said lists some potential display configurations that DP 2.0 could enable as the following single display resolutions the company says could include 116 K which is fifteen thousand three hundred sixty by eighty four sixty pixels display at 60 Hertz and thirty BVP four by four by four and 110 cake display as well with a 24bpp and no compression dual display resolutions are also in the list to 8k for example to 4k different levels of compression triple display resolutions included 10k by three or three 4k monitors the standard 4k that we all know at ninety Hertz and then when using only two lanes on the USBC connector via DP alt mode it allows for simultaneous super speed USB data and video DP 2.0 can enable such configurations as three 4k at 144 Hertz two 4k by 4k displays or 4096 4096 for AR VR headsets at 120 Hertz and a3q HD or 1440p displays at 120 Hertz one 8k display at 30 Hertz also listed DB 2.0 will use the native DP connector as well as USB type-c to incorporate Intel's Thunderbolt 3 for the physical layer that also means that DP 2.0 will inherit the acts of Caitlin versus passive cabling conundrum and as an intact notes visa hasn't fully addressed that issue but instead is focusing on what can be achieved with passive cables for the near term and we'd recommend checking out their article for more depth on this write-up they saw also has something published on its website bases org basic expects DP 2.0 to service in retail products by late 2020 and will go head-to-head with the competing HDMI 2.1 standard and finally it seems Coolermaster is set to enter the gaming monitor market this is actually a market where you're gonna see a lot of companies increasing their presence in it like msi for example gigabyte for example because there's a lot of growth potential in the monitor market especially what the changes coming up so it seems that Coolermaster wants to join the likes of a messiah and gigabyte at all and is working on its own models two of them are coming up and they are called check GM a 2-1 9 - 3 0 and GM 2 + 9 - 3 5 so we we haven't fixed the naming problem and monitors if we've not addressed that issue yet as is the case with most monitor model names the numbers tell the tale the GM - 19 - 30 will be a 30 inch display with a 21 by 9 aspect ratio so admittedly it's actually not that bad compared to the other names while the GM - 19 - 35 sports a 35 inch screen once you understand the naming scheme it's not too bad both will be based on a curved VA panel the GM - 1930 will offer a resolution of 2560 by 1080 at 200 Hertz while the GM - 1935 will run at 34 40 by 1440 at 120 Hertz both panels are expected to offer a 1 millisecond response time prices are currently rumored but the rumours are $400 for the - 1930 and $1,000 for the to 1935 release dates are expected toward end of 2019 so that will cover it for this one thank you for watching as always you can subscribe for more and you should because we have a lot of reviews coming up this is the busiest week of our professional career here ever I think because it's about 8 CPUs on the same day - GPUs on the same day - other GPUs at least and that's a lot of stuff to review so there's a lot coming up and you should be subscribed go to store now Cameron's axis net to pick up at our new tool kit if you would like to pay for our caffeine for the week or you can go to patreon.com/scishow there's access where we are posting another behind-the-scenes video this weekend thank you for watching we'll see you all next time
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