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hey everyone welcome back to another weekly Hardware news recap we have three big items this week one of them is some new Intel leaks that were sent to gamers Nexus we'll talk about those in a moment we have some information on AMD Vegas 64 AIB partner cards this stems from a Tom's Hardware de story but we've gone validated some of the information in that story and then finally some information on Zen - aka Matisse so we'll be talking about that and then some memory items later on in the video before that this coverage is brought to you by the core G 21 enclosure from thermal take a $70 case with two four millimeter thick tempered glass side panels and a power supply shroud with top mounted SSD sleds learn more at the link in the description below the first news item is the Intel document that was sent to GN so we received an Intel launch update documents or ILU from a source connected to one of the suppliers in the industry and the document contains some information pertaining to coffee lake and pentium cpus as well as Celeron cpus later on it's got some additional information on the road map into 2018 for chipsets and other launches and a quick note here because Intel color codes the documents by supplier we have removed some of the color coded elements and obfuscated the colors so it's not the original color of the document but we've confirmed the document with other sources in the industry so confirmed its legitimacy through others that I know many of them however did suggest that Intel's roadmap at this point changes almost monthly so even though this is an accurate actual leak it still might change just based on what we're being told Intel apparently has moved things around a lot because of various AMD launches and then some of their own stuff internally so keep that in mind of immediate interest to our audience we learned that Intel plans to launch Pentium silver and seller on Gemini Lake CPUs in four and - core 10 watt SOC variants in October and November these look like they'll be BGA but they follow the known Coffey Lake launch where we already have all those specs anyway the company aims to follow a XIII 70 with launches of its H 370 a ch3 ten and B 360 chipsets in the first quarter of 2018 and these launches will be accompanied by other coffee-like CPUs from the eighth generation that includes additional six four and two core CPUs again from Coffey Lake s Intel aims to launch q 370 and q 360 business chipsets in second quarter of 2018 and we also know that Intel is launching its obtain 900p SSD at or near citizencon the event centered around star citizen the SSD will be Intel's first SSD for the enthusiast market following the launch of Enterprise obtain SSDs earlier this year remember that these are different from the cache drives we've seen thus far and may be more valuable to the enthusiast market than what shipped already obtained 900p SSDs it will reportedly ship in 280 gigabyte and 480 gigabyte add-in card variants so that would be PCIe cards and will be advertised as quote optimized for Roberts space industries star citizen in the advertisement at citizencon we were also told that these III 70 chipset is more of a stopgap solution for coffee lake for its immediate launch is e 370 as we understand it now contains some trace optimizations for power delivery with coffee lake and this is necessary to make it work well or at all we're not really sure which of those two but it's from what we've been told the trace optimizations and the power delivery optimizations were more or less needed so that may just come down to power consumption but that's the real reason that coffee Lake isn't meant to be compatible with Z 200 series motherboards we learned through multiple sources that some of the earlier engineering boards did support inter compatibility between the products but that's not something you should expect for consumer products as has already been tested by at least one site at this point so this was eventually disabled via firmware to ensure that coffee Lake is on a platform that was intended for it to use with those power delivery optimizations and it sounds like Z 390 should carry with it to the bigger performance improvements and gains whenever that ships but we don't know when that'll be at this point but that follows up z 370 sometime in 2018 the next piece of news is no surprise to anyone AMD's zen to release code named after artist Matisse is scheduled for launch in 2019 on the am for platform these n plus optimizations should chip in 2018 and will include performance optimizations so as far as leaks go in other words the sky is still blue but not not like Intel they're like like the sky is literally blue that's not a Sun Intel thing it's not exciting news in other words so yeah as n2 by 2019 then blast will be better about what you would expect the information was linked leaked to in formatic zero or cero so grain of salt in mind but it seems to indicate mostly things we already knew as a community at this point Zen plus is noted as featuring optimizations but not specified so we would expect there's a whole lot of options you'd expect maybe something on latency front maybe something on the platform front maybe something on frequency a lot of options for Andy to improve Zen so that's supposed to be 2018 and an APU News Raven Ridge is rumored for 2018 with eight thread Zen CPUs on them with 704 streaming processors that use the Vega architecture so that would be 11 C use from the Vega arc that we already know Tom's Hardware Germany published a story indicating that MSI contacts had informed the outlet of no plans to support the Vega 64 released with custom cards we emailed MSI to follow up on this and MSI told us the following as of right now there's no plan we will do custom Vega cards but it might change in the future so that more or less confirms what Tom's Hardware heard and this follows a troubled launch for Vega at this point which has routinely pushed back potential launch dates of partner cards the cards were originally slated for late August and then we heard early September for Asus and then we heard mid to late September for Asus with other board partners saying they were pushed back to October and now asus has pushed back to October as well so basically October or later at this point for a be partner cards in the Tom's Hardware story gigabyte noted that they would likely produce a custom Vega card at some point but they aren't 100% sure really what they're doing with it right now so no no firm commitment from amis or from gigabyte at this point and no commitment from msi so we understand this to be largely a supply issue speaking with people it sounds like the AIB partners who make the video cards for gamers are having difficulty getting their hands on enough GPUs to put on the boards to sell to their distribution and their their wholesale partners so it there's no real word at this point no updates beyond the existing Tom's Hardware story of probably sometime in October for more cards to start coming out but Asus is the only real one we've seen in the wild at this point XFX and power color are working on stuff as our sapphire but all three of those companies are and the exclusive partners so you would expect no less from them since they they need to make the card to survive so no surprise in that front the agnostic partners though seem to be a bit more variable in what they're doing now as for the Asus Strix Vegas 64 we sent out a tweet the other day updating everyone on our review of the card so we are officially on a hold for that review because the Vegas 64 Strix Edition card originally asus was so they shipped a few samples to EU media you probably saw some European review reviews go up and US media lagged behind us PR was holding onto the cards basically to wait for the v bios to be finalized because in those initial reviews it was not so the results were more or less the same or slightly worse than the reference card now depend on which driver version is being used there's an incompatibility issue with the latest asus v bios that the signed one and with the 17 9.2 i think and the drivers and that causes clock deficits up to 180 megahertz so basically we're on hold until that's fixed because otherwise the results are just gonna be way worse than reference or at least slightly worse than reference because there's a clock regression because of incompatibility between the B BIOS and the drivers a lot of this comes down to AMD and their decision to not allow custom BIOS at an enthusiast level which also reflects onboard partners because now board partners have to get their BIOS more or less signed off on by AMD and so that's causing some slowdown but the real slowdown is is supply asus is facing to slow down with their v bios compatibility as far as reviews go but there there are other issues as well that all of these companies are facing with Vegas so the Tom's Hardware story is good they cover a lot of it they cover some of the engineering challenges we'd recommend you go check it out and that's been rewritten on their English version of the website as well in memory news that corsair has updated their new pair of 16 gigabyte ddr4 kits clocked at forty five hundred and forty six hundred megahertz respectively per the usual with memory the forty five hundred megahertz kit offers the tighter timings of the two and runs at a lower voltage alternatively the forty six hundred megahertz kit uses slightly more late in timings and drinks a bit more voltage to afford the boost in clocks the forty five hundred megahertz kit is available for a four hundred and eighty dollars that's sixteen gigabytes over forty six hundred megahertz for five hundred and fifty dollars next g.skill is also rolling out new memories they've got Trident II RGB kits aimed specifically at rise and unthread upper the kids will come with speeds of twenty four hundred twenty-nine thirty three and thirty two hundred megahertz with capacities from sixteen to 128 gigabytes the modules that feature the recognized Triton Z anodized aluminum heat spreader replete with the RGB light bar so you've seen these at this point but the kits are scheduled for an October release with no current word on prices but again ddr4 so it'll be high also in memory news is guile and what they're calling the world's first as far as being touted as the first folio RGB illuminated ddr4 memory module with asus rog certification so i mean generally speaking you give me the world's first anything if you just drill down and get more and more specific on what it is so I guess they've done that at this point so aside from that the sticks do offer ASIS or synchronized RGB support these kits are available in both dual and quad sticks so you get two or four running at 3000 megahertz and offering standard XMP support with Layton sees of CL 15 at one point three five volts for both options next for some miscellaneous news EVGA z power 5 standalone vrm board is now available or readied anyway so this is the latest of its a power line these are standalone vrm boards aimed at replacing the V RMS on GPUs and the e power 5 has a 12 + 2 phase design 12 for V core - 4 v mem and is powered by 3 6 pin PCI II connectors in broad terms EVGA ze power VRMs r4 sort of extreme overclockers XO sears people like build Zoid or kingpin who look for increased power stability more power available overall more voltage options and control and the ability to adjust voltages on-the-fly this a power board also has a fan headers for cooling which it'll probably need to some extent and easily accesible probe points for measuring via multimeters which is also very valuable pricing and availability on that still sort of up in the air but this is not really a product that 99% of enthusiasts should be buying just kind of interesting to keep an eye on though finally Western Digital has a 12 terabyte WD Gold Drive coming out so this is eight platters with helium rather than the usual mixture and the WD gold pack will use eight PMR or perpendicular magnetic recording platters with the fourth generation the fourth version of their Helio seal technology so it's sealed with helium again and it's using 1.5 terabyte platter densities so 1.5 for each they spin at 7200 rpm 256 megabytes of cash and it's aimed at enterprise workloads so this is replete with other features for enterprise like vibration reduction various protections security features things like that and it's supposed to be $540 for 12 terabytes which isn't the worst price that we've seen for a harddrive so especially with SSD prices right now comes with a five year warranty targeted at an enterprise overall but something worth looking at for the future because eventually those capacities will come down to more consumer available drives maybe in the blue or black line from WD so that's all for this one as always you can go to patreon.com/scishow still 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