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Gian just knocked one of its busiest weeks ever but it's not over yet and one of the news items for this week refers to the Intel comet Lake slides that were leaked out there ie fabricated because they're fake so we really talk about those rise in 2000 second gen prices dropping significantly with the launch of the new chips not surprising but also a good opportunity to potentially buy something instead of third gen if you were considering third gen the second-generation CPUs have their newer prices are some of AMD's biggest competition from AMD samsung 5 nanometer UV based LP nodes are progressing custom Navi cards for mid-august and MSI updating the AM 400 series boards with 32 megabyte BIOS chips before that this video is brought to you by the be quiet dark rock slim keeping a high performance focused but reducing the footprints to accommodate full memory slot compatibility the dark rock slim comes with one of be quiet silent wins three 120 millimeter fans built for low noise operation the dark rock slim advertises cooling capability up to 180 watts EDP but mixes in a matte black out color design to combine performance and looks learn more at the link in the description below so first of that Intel comet Lake slide it's fake we saw our friends over at PC world had posted a similar story talking about why they thought it would probably be fake and pointed out a few things like silly typos apostrophes where they don't belong although Intel did make one of those mistakes itself and things like putting the dollar sign after the numbers stuff Intel wouldn't do but PC world pointed those out what we did is we just reached out to some people in addition to their information and the answer was that although not official our understanding is from sources close to the matter that these are not slides that Intel made Intel did not make those slides and we'll have it on the screen at some point but basically the rumor was something like 10 core chips at $500 at 5 or over gigahertz all core and this is just kinda is it's a dangerous expectation to set because we end up in the same where we were with Rison that's not to say Intel can't do this at some point just like it's not to say and he couldn't do higher frequencies at some point but with Rison 3000 series you saw rumors months ago that we're saying it was a 5 gigahertz and the implication was all core which everyone reasonable knew that was never going to happen but unfortunately because a lot of people are inexperienced with this stuff and you know they don't have enough background knowledge to know that 5 gigahertz all core on the Rison 3000 series wouldn't happen without Alan to you the end result was that a lot of people ended up feeling disappointed at launch even though it was actually a pretty damn good launch overall so comment leek slides the best thing to do right now is to ignore them and not listen to rumors about comet Lake until it's close enough to launch that we're gonna get some actual leaks from motherboard vendors or something like that people who probably have the CPUs rather than fake slides so yeah that slide not real Intel Corporation it's official comment is Intel does not comment on rumors this is a it's a pretty standard official comment the information we collected from other sources though including some of the motherboard vendors to validate that information is that the slide is fake so that'll that'll wrap that story and PC world has it kind of funny right up by Brad about things like misgivings on typos and dollar sign positioning of the chart so you can check his article if you want to see more of that if you don't believe me Intel's new interconnect and packaging this is real news this comes from in Towson newsroom website and as the monolithic die approach to building chips gets more complex and limited by physics both and the end Intel have taken a chiclet approach to CPU design as you've seen with rise in 3000 series at some icon West Intel took the lid off new packaging and interconnect technologies that the chip maker claims will carry chip designs into the future Intel's new packaging technology is called Co omit and it essentially combines embedded multi die interconnect or emit and fog as you recall Intel or if you recall any way until debuted email back in 2017 when it announced a partnership with AMD to bring Intel processors with Radeon graphics to market that partnership resulted in the KB Lake G chip with Radeon graphics powering the haiti's Canyon nook that we tested and overclocked extensively and we can probably find some old footage of that and put it on the screen actually when we did the haiti's Canyon overclocking we use this custom case that was made by former danger done guys and will drop a shot up of that or something so that was pretty fun but that's where you made more or less started valve Rose is relatively new it's something that we talked about around December of last year and it's a 3d chip stacking approach to chip design it is supposed to result in what Intel is calling hybrid x86 processors and the chip seizing five rows are slated to debut in Intel's ten nanometer Lakefield lineup by using both farbros and Amit and scho emmab Intel claims it allows for linkage of even more computing performance and capability together that's their direct quote in addition to connecting multiple fibrous elements designers can also link other tiles see chip lets such as analog or memory components then there's the new omnidirectional interconnector oti oti is a communication framework that combines the horizontal communication of emmab and the vertical communication of Favreau's ODI uses large through-silicon vias or a TBS to communicate and deliver power vertically through the base thigh the larger TV asses offer less resistance and facilitate higher bandwidth this approach also means that Intel can use fewer TBS's optimizing die space well Ashley Intel discussed a new die to die interface known as MD i/o MD IO is more of a modular system composed of a library of intellectual property blocks and is based on intel's advanced interface bus or AIB which is a PHY level interconnect and more on that in the Intel newsroom sometimes we talk about hirings in the industry and important people Intel just to kind of close out Intel as the news item here for the first half because it's been let's be honest AMD for three months now it has hired Claire Dixon as the corporate vice president and chief communications officer at CCO Claire Dixon comes from VMware actually and served as the senior vice president there and chief communications officer this follows up on a lot of Intel hirings lately most of them have been in the graphics group Roger Chidori is notable Tom Peterson is notable Ryan Shrout as well and prior to this though Dixon was the vice president of global comms at eBay as well and has now moved to Intel rise in can't can't go a few hours without saying that rise in 2000 and second gen thread Ripper or getting price cuts this is actually pretty good news so in our 3,600 review despite how positive we were about the 3,600 and strongly recommended it was literally in the title also the 2,700 2,700 X have fallen in price to a point where they're pretty good competition to the 3600 so depending on what you're doing how much you want gaming performance versus the extra cores and threads these 2000 series chips are a good opportunity at the new prices while they in stock anyway they're not being made anymore to our knowledge but we don't fully know yet but they're going to go Yoel at some point soon so while at the new prices there are a good competition option to the 3000 series outside of Intel in the wake of Andy's rise in 3,000 launch prices have fallen to about $160 for the rise in 5 2600 acts which is a CP that we actually previously gave an award for one of the best budget options and now that's even more true that's a hefty discount over the original $260 price meanwhile the r5 2600 is about 140 dollars you can buy that an overclock it to 2600 X levels with minimal effort so that would be a good option to save an extra 20 bucks that's six dollars off its initial launch price and then the flagship r7 2,700 X has been dropped to $250 where it launched to the $330 price point also first generalized and where you can find them can sometimes be cheaper than that although you're kind of your parting hairs at that point it might be better to just go with second gen if you can find them so the second generation of thread Ripper is getting its own price cuts as well we even talked about this yet with the r9 3900 axe encroaching on the bottom run of the thread Ripper mm product stack it makes sense for Andy to drop prices in the thread Ripper 2950 X and 29:20 brackets when the r9 3950 axe debuts in September these price shops will make even more sense as the chip will no doubt further cannibalize last gen thread Ripper the thread Ripper 2950 axe is currently listed at 738 hundred $99 launch price alternatively aim these 2920 axe is going for 340 at B&H photo the 2920 x debuted at $650 for reference galaxy's rolling out PCIe for SSDs with a 500 gigabyte option as well but talk about these a bit so these are obviously targeted for use with X 570 it's the debut PCIe gen for platform storage is the primary use case of PCIe gen for there's really no no use case and graphics writing that consumer graphics right now so if you really need high-speed storage gen forests where you should be looking and people who need it probably know they need it and if you don't know you need it you might not so another thing here to note briefly the speed of the interface is not necessarily the speed of the device so keep that in its pretty basic stuff but just like I say 2/3 port will not make an old old device like I say to say to to device operate at faster speeds just by having a faster interface it's also got to be a faster controller on the device or faster memory on the device so with the 500 gigabyte SSD this is using the Phi's on at 50 16 east 16 controller which is one of the faster ones so so far what we know are that the models from gigabyte and Corsair are the first the debut Gen 4 models he talked about the sabre and had one come out as well we talked about last week now Galax is ready to enter the as viet uncrowded PCIe for arena as with previous SSD is based on the new PCIe gen for standard galaxy's new hof pro will use the Phi's on PS 50 1616 controller and Toshiba's 96 layer 3 ETL seen that the Galax hall-of-fame pro based on the m2 2280 form-factor I'll be passively cooled with an aluminum heatsink the galaxy all of fame' pro does manage to differentiate itself a bit and offering a 500 gigabyte capacity option sequential read and write speeds vary based on model but the two terabyte offering tops out at five gigabyte per second read and 4.4 gigabytes per second to write which is in line with the on paper specs we've seen from other PCIe for SSDs well there's no word on price the drives are expected to hit retail channels by the end of the month Samsung recently confirmed that its foundry has certified full flow tools from both cadence and synopsis the new tools will be used for chip designs based on Samsung's 5 nanometer 5l PE or low-power early knowed Samson certified both the cadence full flow digital solution and design tools and the synopsis fusion design platform using arm cortex a53 and an ARM Cortex a 57 cores quote as part of our long-standing collaboration with cadence we've confirmed that it's digital full flow meets and exceeds the requirements for designing with the 5 lpe process technology Samsung's vice president of design technology counted on Samson's collaboration with synopsis and said that quote synopsis continues to be our vendor of choice for collaboration on new node development and enablement so our foundry customers can confidently ramp their designs to volume production in all market segments including automotive AI high-performance computing and mobile according to an attack the newly certified tools include compilers validators power circuit optimizers and UV specific tools in our AMD rx 5700 xt review we primarily took issue with the blower cooler design and although you can kind of work around some of its issues with an easy mod it's still ideal as we said in the video to just wait for partner models so those partner models are expected to launch around mid-august and the vice president and general manager of Radeon noted that custom Navi cards will be here in mid-august he said quote hey all custom AIB designs will be hitting the market mid August in a reddit thread noted that and also noted some justification for the blower cooler thought the real justification is it's cheap that's why they did it so that's why it was done but the quote given was the radion group historically has had a bad reputation of producing product launch charts that didn't match up real-world performance love it or hate it the blower allowed us to guarantee performance in every system to match our launch charts not everyone cools their PC as good as well maybe as a reviewer and definitely not as well as some of the pictures you guys have shared it was my goal to clean all of this up so that you can trust our performance that you hear from us on stage that is not true that's that is not why I am Dee made the blower cooler that's bullshit so just point that out right now that's a really good after the fact reason for why the blower cooler was chosen the blower cooler was chosen because it's cheap and relatively easy to make there might be a behind-the-scenes reason of not wanting to step on board partners toes whereas nvidia can kind of just say you know what we'll do what we want and what are you guys gonna do about it so AMD doesn't have quite that position with its board partners but the reason is definitely not because it doesn't line up with the charts otherwise because that's just not that's not valid some of the charts are they already have BS in them anyway like calculating vanes off of a peak clock that rarely happens so that answer not valid but the thing that matters is that the custom cards will come out in mid-august so that's that's the aspect of this that you could take away from it MSI last item updating a m4 400 series boards with 32 megabyte BIOS chips with am these growing family of processors backwards compatibility on socket and four boards is becoming a challenge for some other board vendors in particular MSI has had issues with 16 megabyte BIOS chips on 300 400 series motherboards to resolve this a messiah is relaunching am for 400 series boards with 32 megabytes chips to better accommodate micro code updates and storage the new msi boards will have a new identifier on them that'll be max at the end of it and that is that that's how you know it's been updated with the larger BIOS the real thing here is we experienced this with one of our gigabyte boards to where it sort of half flashes the BIOS dependent which chip you have in there and it can cause some some issues or at least and can it's in the best case so a320 a pro is getting updated for be 450 boards they've got be 450 pro be 450 M pro VDH p450 gaming plus Pro Am to mortar max tomahawk and a pro and all of those have we already said no before 50 ma pro as well so those are all updated with BIOS and X 470 gaming pro and gaming plus or getting updated and it's we're not clear yet if other models will also get larger BIOS chips but that is what a messiah has officially listed so far so that's it for this one that you're watching check back for more we have a lot more follow uprising coverage and some follow up Navi coverage you can subscribe as always to catch that we're going to store documents exes net to pick up our new new GN tear down toolkit and you can go to patreon.com/scishow his access to help 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