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HW News - Intel PCIe 5 & DDR5 Support, 6GHz DDR4, & Huawei Loses ARM

2019-05-23
everyone we've got a hardware news recap leading into Computex for 2019 we just landed in Taipei yesterday as of filming and there's a lot of big news items before the show including Intel's a new road map looking at PCIe gen 5 and ddr5 leading into 2021 and tech companies cutting ties with Huawei Samsung being dethroned as one of the as the largest semiconductor manufacturer by Intel the once cane largest time I met somebody conductor manufacturer and then some news on HPE acquiring Cray before that this video is brought to you by Thermaltake C 360 DD C hard tubing water cooling kit if you're ready to dip your toes into the water and build your first open-loop cooling system the Thermaltake c 360 DD c hard tubing kit comes with all the components you need to get started so you won't have to worry about forgetting anything the kit includes a three sixty millimeter radiator three 120 a RGB fans i conferred w4 a RGB water block for the cpu a pump and res d DC combo and all the fittings needed to build a full cpu open-loop the hard tubing kit also gives a great launching point at a lower price to get into open-loop building and expandability and can easily be grown with a GPU block if so desired learn more at the link in the description below so as stated we're here in Taipei we're starting Computex coverage early next week or in a couple days from when this video goes live and you'll want to check back for that we have a lot of motherboard coverage lined up relating to and these announcements and the announcement coverage coming up and then probably no real discussion on GPUs but we'll see what comes out and if there's anything on na'vi for this past week intel server roadmap is looking at ddr5 and PCIe gen 5 there's a screaming bird to my left off-camera it's probably picking up on the mic enjoy that that certain ated so a recent server roadmap was leaked from a hallway presentation for a bout of irony as you'll see later in the episode and outlined some serious io advancements for intel's upcoming technology so 2022 data center roadmap is what we're looking at for this but that is the predecessor to eventually comes down to other Intel platforms like in mainstream desktop user enthusiasts desktop and these include new code names for sapphire Rapids and Granite Rapids and then both sets who succeed the Cooper Lake and ice Lake processors in the server segment with ice leaks they'll kind of in the eventually it will roll out phase sapphire rapids SP seems poised for a first quarter 2021 launch event I can stick to the roadmap and that brings with it ddr5 memory support and PCIe Gen 5 support as you all likely know by now a PCIe gen 4 was first supported with and the server processors and the platform that accompanied them and will be next supported by an DS mainstream desktop platform for the rise and 3,000 launch coming up this summer so PCIe jump 4 is been in the news Gen 5 is up next but really it's just increasing and bandwidth incrementally that data is already out there on how much it increases we can throw it on the screen it's easily found on Wikipedia but Gen 4 verse Gen 3 you had about a 2x increase in bandwidth per Lane so ddr5 also in the news for that but sapphire rapids will make use of the Eagle stream platform a 2p machine platform that will also be used for granite Rapids no word on core counts or frequencies for sapphire rapids yet but sapphire rapids will be succeeded by granite rapids in 2022 and that could bring with it a generation / generation improvement in silicon the clock speeds and efficiency as one would expect it appears that both processor families will come out with the Intel 7 nanometer nodes assuming 10 ever comes out we can work our way towards 7 and it would be sapphire rapids based on intel's first generation of 7 nanometer and then granite rapids with likely leverage a 7 nanometer Plus version because Intel is committing further to the plus demarcation Zin their process nodes so as things roll forward you're going to see a lot more of what we saw 14 nanometer where it's + + + + + because Intel's been focusing on iterating on its process nodes to get more out of each node and to be fair 40 nanometer was pushed really far so Intel's keeping with that approach tech companies cutting ties with Huawei Amit the us-china tensions so in what's been an unprecedented move in both the tech sector and the Android landscape Huawei has found itself on a commerce trade blacklist complements of the US federal government following hallways addition to the entity list several important companies have been forced to sever ties among the most critical are Google and arm which will absolutely cripple huawei's ability to ship phones and other Android devices Google announced that it will revoke hallways Android license thus eliminating hall way to using the Android Open Source project or AOSP without access to Google's proprietary services like the App Store or the Play Store being Apple and Google there this would make any fork of AOSP unrecognizable and limits the usefulness especially in the Western markets who always already come out and stated that they have an OS ready Huawei apparently anticipated such a move so it's got an OS internally ready for use this would likely see more success in China where the the leading application is WeChat including for payment of things so beyond that probably wouldn't have as much pickup in the Western markets which we do depend on either the app store from Apple or the Play Store from Google and this would be Google since they've been Android devices up till now anyway so among the other news from the Swami has silently been working on its OS as the company anticipated losing Google and losing arm is however nothing short of devastating this one was a little last expected nearly every chip inside a smartphone or a tablet is based on arm designs and without some foundation or IP on which to base the chips Huawei's chip building ambitions are effectively dead also on the growing list of companies turning away from hallway is Intel and then along with them Qualcomm Broadcom and Xilinx all pledging not to supply the company until further notice by way has suggested it could replace its American suppliers with those found in China but that's dubious as a claim to say the least there's a chance that Huawei could potentially replicate some components but it's unlikely that it could be done at the scale and the speed while we would need to do it at to recoup their upcoming losses and this is the second largest phone maker in the world behind Sam so it's a big deal more to the point though by way it needs to need to access to the software the IP and the technology that is developed by its American firms so we'll have more coverage on how this develops but in addition to that the Huawei ban and the US has caught other tech companies in the crossfire for revenue losses due to hallways existence on the trade blacklist now several American suppliers are expecting losses including and the Intelligent Qualcomm Broadcom with some being a bit more exposed than others and II for example has more exposure despite having a lower absolute figure of revenue loss then say Intel and these got more exposure to it because it's a greater percentage of AMD's total revenue Intel's revenue loss is looking at somewhere around 85 million dollars which is let's see it is about one percent of its total revenue so not a huge hit to Intel and D is looking to lose about thirty nine million and then Microsoft is up there in the nearly 30 million at range as well Broadcom however stands to lose the most revenue from the loss of Huawei's of clients and that's at 508 million dollars but broad comms exposure is is far from the highest it's there they're doing better than some of the others here and videos on the list as well so as Microsoft the early estimates and Goldman Sachs is involved in this for what that's worth but the early estimates point to an 11 billion dollar loss for the American suppliers collectively next up intel ending Samsung's semiconductor reign we previously reported on when Intel was surpassed by Samsung as the most popular or the largest growing semiconductor manufacturer in the world where in toss up until then reigned supreme for decades but that's flipped again so as I see insights reports Intel's once again the number one semiconductor vendor in the world dethroning Samsung which dethroned Intel for the crown in 2017 so took about two years to catch back up this is in no small part thanks to the abrupt downturn in the DRAM market you've likely seen this in DRAM prices finally coming down and offsetting Intel CPU shortage which Intel is also getting back on top of sir first for second half of 2019 Intel CPU shortage should be effectively over from what we've heard Samson the writing's been on the wall for some time now DRAM markets pretty predictable and moves in waves the company went as far as warning its investors in the first quarter 2019 revenue report that it's greatly missing its mark due to massive price declines in memory Samsung's lead was built on the massive memory business it was enjoying during the several quarter of booming memory prices and this is something that we looked into extensively in fact almost every weekly news episode had discussion of memory prices for probably about a year so Intel's propulsion back to the top was almost expected here and it's one that Intel has has been struggling to find with ten nanometer issues and shortages in CPU supply especially 14-man nanometer but it is coming back and this this may be something to return to the default position for Intel and Samsung HPE acquiring supercomputer Pioneer cray we probably first talked to you all about Cray when we did a computer history museum tour with Jim Vincent and Silicon Valley looking at the original krai supercomputers but now the discussion for Cray was relating to AMD and Cray working together to build the newest the most powerful supercomputer which is frontier in the next couple of years hewlett-packard enterprise and Cray have jointly confirmed that HPE will buy the supercomputer maker for 1.3 billion dollars the president and CEO of HPE stated quote answers to solve society's most pressing challenges are buried in massive amounts of data only by processing and analyzing this data will we be able to unlock the answers to critical challenges across medicine climate change space and more and presumably this will also help answer the question of the answer to life the universe and everything which she's probably still 42 but we'll check on that for you cray in furthering this quote Cray is a global technology leader in supercomputing and shares our deep commitment to innovation by combining our world-class teams and technology we'll have the opportunity to drive the next generation of high performance computing and play an important part in advancing the way people live and work Craig got its start in 1972 as stated it's it's old so cray the cray-1 supercomputer was the biggest item of the time that we were talking about in the computer history museum we have some footage of it had water-cooled supercomputers as well so water cooling started way back when even before J's two cents and Cray is often associated with the most powerful supercomputers on the planet including the recently announced frontier slated to be the world's first exascale supercomputer HPE will leverage Cray and its associated technologies to address the emerging HPC or high performance computing market and the exascale market segment where HPE intends to bolster its HPC as a service offerings HP also intends to build an end-to-end HPC portfolio consisting of storage software compute and interconnect this will allow HPE to connect its ore to extend its footprint across a broader set of markets the last one for this before we actually start the show a data and micron are leap frogging one another for overclocking records in the space and this one is for memory overclocking world records so micron and a data seemed content to keep trading the crown for the world's fastest kit of ddr4 memory and all the bragging rights that are afforded there in just recently micron laid claim to the world record for ddr4 memory frequency with a hardware bot validated record of fifty seven twenty six megahertz / 5.7 gigahertz for memory and that blows past a data's previous record of 56 34 at this point every every one megahertz is a big deal because they're pushing pretty high now a data is back to leapfrog micron score and this moves to an impressive overclock 57-38 megahertz also validated by Hardware bought a data achieved the overclock with a kit of its own spectryx D is 60 gr GB ddr4 memory now our theory is presently that they have the RGB set to just read so that that probably helped with increasing the score a bit but again this is something we'll have to research heavily there in Computex and get back to you on obviously these records are set using liquid nitrogen no surprise especially on the CPU front and this is something we've talked about a lot in the past couple weeks but aside from the bragging rights memory makers that love these overclocking competitions because it's great self-promotion for many years Samson's bita in memory where were the ICS of choice for overclockers has been a topic of discussion with the rise and processors as they grown in their markets prominence and Samson is discontinuing its betide ships this year so we'll see where the room at the top for the gold standard of memory goes if it's gonna stay with Samson or go to one of their competitors micron and a data though are certainly making their case to keep around the high-end memory ICS so that's it for this news recap subscribe for more as always you can go to patreon.com/scishow and exit stuff now directly or store documents access net 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