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everyone welcome back to another hardware news recap for the past week it's been a really busy week in the world of hardware news so we have an exclusive item on GT X 1080 TI stock being almost gone sad news for people who've been trying to buy Pascal up instead of RT X cards and then we've also got an investigation we're starting up on the debt 20 ATT eyes we'll be talking about that or well dead we don't know how widespread it is we know that definitely some of you had dead xx ATT eyes because you are sending them to us for further inspections so we'll be looking at some of that coming up soon and then Intel poaching more AMD talent SSD prices falling potentially as low as 8 cents per gigabyte the lowest that we've seen ever I think and that could be in 2019 and is on track TSMC is making a lot of Intel chips right now to assist in Intel's current manufacturing deficiency and we have more than that before that this video is brought to you by NZXT is new h 500 case which we recently 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check that out first item here for News the GTX 1080i this has been sort of a really in in light of RT X I think it has become a favorite status card it's easy to like the 1080 TI given its current price performance ratio when can during the newer cards on the market and considering that the 2080 wasn't really all that we would have liked to see for performance increments and rasterization so the 1080i then you'll be sad to hear potentially that it is exit has exited production and stock is low it's been out of production for a little while now NVIDIA hasn't made more of them but the board partners the folks who actually make the aftermarket cards are almost out of stock from the sources with whom we've spoken and we do trust those sources greatly so so we we believe that at this point the 1080i hasn't been in production for a while so it's pretty believable that it's almost out of stock especially considering we have sales data on this because we get that Amazon affiliate sales data from when people buy stuff through our links and when the twenty eighty and twenty ATT I launched looking at the video cards sold to people in our audience like you all the 1080i sales skyrocketed way past the twenty series we've never seen that before at a product launch for GPUs so uh Nvidia moved a lot of ten series when the twenty series launched anyway they are almost gone so the high on the GTX cards will soon be completely supplanted by the RT X twenty eighty at the 1080i class and then of course twenty ATT I had a bit higher than that Titan class or beyond and Nvidia's biggest competition at this point to its twenty series has been the 1080 Ti at least to the twenty eighty in twenty eight ETI cards so we're not sure if this will impact price at all one early theory we had was that perhaps the higher prices on our TX would come down as Pascal sold through but that's only going to be true if there's a lack of purchases and our TX cards because people are buying them anyway because all the high intensity is gone that's all you can buy why would they bring the prices down so separately from this separately from the sad news that there will not be any restock of the 1080i and the the stock is almost gone at this point in the US market anyway we also heard that manufacturers are trying to pull in inventory to fill stateside warehouses for North American customers that would include Canada because the tariffs that are coming in it looks like beginning of next year beginning of 2019 there's apparently going to be another tariff hike and manufacturers are trying to bring an inventory into their warehouses because a lot of the inventory that comes in comes through US ports so even if you're in Canada you are affected by these price hikes because the price increase from the tariff will take effect at the u.s. port it doesn't matter if it's going to Canada ultimately or not so manufacturers they're bringing more stuff in because anything that comes in ahead of that increase will dodge the price increase the charges and this affects it nearly every company in the u.s. computer hardware market anyone who works with metals or electrical components so basically everyone memory is surprisingly not affected and SST is not affected so that's why you see those prices continuing to fall partly anyway because manufacturing is the other side of it but things like video cards motherboards cases those are all affected fans coolers all that stuff anything that's seen it's kind of a DIY part memory for whatever reason was not included in there so that's that's interesting news for you but otherwise we're working on an investigation on the dead twenty atti cards you may have heard about this it's been big news in the last week we've been kind of quiet on it as we've been talking to board partners s eyes and video to some extent trying to figure out what's going on with both on record and off record sources and to give you a quick recap if you don't know anything about this the short version is that Digital Trends posted a report last week or early this week that the 28th ETI early adopters were facing die-off issues on their cards comments on Reddit and Nvidia's forums arranged from bricked cards crashes artefacts memory artifact in bsod SC T DS stuff like that and what's more some of the reports are after going through the RMA process with a second or even a third card and you start reading this and if you see someone who's had maybe three card failures you start wondering okay is it the users fault at this point but in fact this is apparently happening to a lot of people so we're gonna step in here and I'll get to the more of that in a moment but to finish up the recap we did ask nvidia for comment and nvidia noted that the company is working with individuals on a per card basis but they do not see broad issues which is really pretty much an expected response at this point as for board partners we spoke with pretty much all of them that you're familiar with and from everyone we've spoken with again several of these sources we've used four highly credible stories in the past and trust them all the board partners told us the same thing which was that they are not seeing higher than usual RMA is on their cards they're seeing RMA is of course everyone does but at this point some of them were as low as below 0.1% even below 0.01 percent and that's not not because the cards are perfect it's because they're so new and there hasn't really been enough time in the market for failure to even occur from people to buy them in enough quantity that they can discover bad cards or defects or bad batches whatever so our May is really low right now and we'll need to wait a bit longer to see how the rates compared to previous generations as we go but the partners by and large actually in totality told us that they are not seeing the types of issues people are describing online so what does that mean well if we look at the types of failures the most common reported online seems to be the founders Edition and there's a bit of confirmation bias here from some people there's questions of you know you start spending this much money the user is more likely an enthusiast if they're spending 1,300 bucks they're more likely to use things like Reddit Twitter social media we're likely to try and watch YouTube or read articles online so the chance of reporting a bad card goes up as opposed to maybe like a GT 1030 where it's someone who's probably not really involved in the community so it's really hard to isolate that signal-to-noise versus is this actually a problem which is what we're trying to do right now and probably lots of other people including an Nvidia so then if the problems are largely on the founders edition cards and there are a couple of failures we've seen reported on some of the gigabyte cards for example Asus card EVGA and for those brands all the ones we've seen reported thus far have been four cards using the reference board so whether there is any correlation there it's it's hard to say well there is correlation we don't know if there's causation for really anything so really hard to know what's going on right now but basically people are seeing artifacting if you're seeing that please contact us because speaking with si speaking with board partners we've heard that this is not something they're seen so they haven't been able to help us troubleshoot and typically they're pretty good about helping with that and video of course says they're not seeing broad issues they're working on individually certainly they're not going to work with media on proving that it's a huge problem so we have a few theories on this we've seen some other ones too some of the theories we've seen some around memory overheating I'll remind you we did GDD our six thermal testing in our twenty atti review and it did not in the worst case test it did not go over about 81 degrees Celsius and that's just flat that's not over ambien it's just flat 81 degrees Celsius the internal dye will be a bit hotter than that but is it hot enough to cause damage artifacts and things like that it's kind of hard to say that's why we are getting in the dead cards from you all to look into it further we did do one test when we did that hybrid mod with no cooling on the memory whatsoever and yeah it hits like a hundred degrees Celsius but that's because there's literally nothing cooling it did not crash or anything like that didn't throttle certainly it's very bad to put your card through that for a long period but we'll be looking into that more so anyway the point is there's not something like a t.j.maxx function on memory here if it's overheating it will overheat until something bad happens and that's likely going to be artifacting typically if a vrm component fails it's a puff of smoke and goes black you don't get it back you don't get any video output again if it is a significant important component so the fact that most these people are seen artifacting does point toward either an in silicon problem with the memory or with the GPU itself likely the memory just based on the types of errors we're seeing we have some other theories but these are pure speculation so Nvidia when we took apart the founders edition cards we did notice that Nvidia several different types of thermal pads for all the components on the boards and when we asked them why this is it's basically a supply-side thing they they can get more pads through more sources so they did that and theoretically as long as they're all about the same thickness that should be fine but there is some chance for error there there's chance that a pad it's missed on a component there's chance that a pad isn't thick enough to make contact and so that could potentially lead it into the overheating theories but there's nothing to really confirm that although the vapor chamber blocks all access to air for the PCB so if there is an overheating issue there's no chance of a secondary fallback from Eric Coyne so that's speculation here's what you need to do if you have a dead or dying 28 ET I we would love for you to contact us that we can analyze it you can email us at a special email address which is dead 28 ET i at gamers nexus dotnet that's de AD 28 ET i at gamers nexus net with information on your court your card what you're seeing it do and please tell us what country you're in so we can start thinking about logistics for shipping us is easier but we will work with you internationally although if you're on an RMA deadline that's probably not going to be easy to do but if you're not if you haven't filed an RMA yet and you want to loan us the card temporarily please email us send it out to us we'll look at it figure out if there's a commonality or a common thread between all the cards we're getting we already have five lined up via Reddit and we're hoping to get more so we have a reddit post where people have been offering their cards and then what we'll do is we'll send it back to you of course we're paying for shipping both ways send us the receipts we will send you some kind of GN merch and return let us know your shirt size maybe and then once you get it back file your RMA and you can point them at our our content if they have any questions whatsoever about if the card you know is experiencing a real issue and also we're not really concerned about violating warranties here we don't I mean we're not going through so if you're concerned about if what we're doing will violate the warranty what we're doing doesn't need to violate warranties so if that is a concern for you feel free to ask about why it shouldn't be in the email and we'll explain it because we've got a pretty good plan here so anyway that's the plan thus far the reddit thread has garnered about five dead twenty atti samples at the time of this video going up we're still looking for more and we are hopeful that we can figure out a common thread we're gonna take down serial numbers on every component on the board take down serial numbers on the boards on the GPUs we'll be replacing well so for one example if it is a thermal problem we can just blast the card with loads of air and see if the problem subsides potentially use water blocks things like that so we're hopeful we can start to narrow this down but check out the the show notes linked in the description below for more information on this or if you just want to copy face the email send us an email and this is a a service for the community at this point it's gonna cost me a whole lot of money to ship all those cards back and forth but it's worth it it'll be fun and you know hopefully we got some ROI of course by doing the reporting but we'll see what we'll see what happens it is something that should just be kind of fun though and good for the community to understand what's going on intel poaching more ande talent so Daren McPhee is now joining the growing list of former AMD employees moving over to Intel Intel has recruited the employees into its discrete GPU business over the past year or two at this point and alongside Darin McPhee Intelli has hired other former discrete graphics employees at and these Radeon division including Raja Kaduri who was largely in charge of Vega Intel has hired Chris hook one of the marketing directors at AMD for a long time now it's hired Jim Keller formerly of Andy an architect status and also technical analyst and former tech reviewer Ryan trout from PC perspective has joined Intel's ranks as a chief strategist I believe is his title so Intel's really pushing that RTG the RTG be counter to RTG the discrete graphics group and Darren McPhee is the newest one he's joined to Intel as their director of product marketing for discrete graphics next a news item SSDs could hit 8 cents per gigabyte in 2019 this is this is some good news for everyone so in a new report from digit times NAND prices are expected to continue their downward trend in 2019 and that's likely not news anyone who's been following our hardware news segments for the last few months but what is news is that projections are calling for the prices to be as low as 8 cents per gigabyte this is a new low estimate that we haven't seen before checking Amazon to confirm what's out there now today we found 250 gigabyte SSDs the crucial MX 500 is certainly a fine SSD it's not like some garbage class drive and that one at 250 gigabytes along with these Samsung 860 Evo at 250 gigabytes those to work out to be about 24 cents per gigabyte or thereabouts and the 50 is $4 50 55 60 so somewhere in there and one terabyte SSDs have been on the 150 price range lately of course it goes up as you get like Pro Class drives and things like that so it's a massive move down in price but it doesn't look like it's going to be going back up anytime soon either will link some of the affordable SSDs we've found in the description below for people who would like to pick up and ask to see what the current prices but you don't need to panic purchase this isn't like some temporary sale it's looking like this is probably going to be a trend at least through the end of the year and potentially will continue in the 2019 so good news for people who would like to move on to SSDs or get bigger ones for your game drives and move away from archival hard drives another item here so this is a rumor rumor alert on that our rx 590 actually not that much for rumor its allegedly faster than a 10 60 and could release in November so we know that the RX 590 at this point based on what's out there is basically a thing and the rumors have been circulating regarding this latest AMD polaris refresh we reported previously on the 590 rumors last week after it landed on the 3dmark database and now the RX 590 has shown up on square enix is a horrible Final Fantasy 15 benchmark but it's on the scoreboard there and at various resolutions the RX 590 comes in anywhere from six to nine percent faster or there abouts than the competing 1066 gigabyte card this would appear to be a more realistic performance target compared to previous rumors even though Final Fantasy 15 s benchmark is far from ideal additionally the RX 590 could release as soon as November for a price of about 300 dollars the rumors and leaks have suggested a 12 nanometer shrink for this but no architectural change at least not a massive one this could mean higher clocks and power efficiency would be the chief upgrade certainly that is what would happen if there is a shrink but that's about that's about what we be looking at for the RX 590 tsmc is now making anti Celeron atom and Pentium CPUs this is pretty big news cuz Intel's been making its own stuff for a long time now by and large and given recent shortages of 14 nanometer and production limitations fab capacity limitations intel has had to outsource some of its production for actually a significant part of its portfolio including some of its chipsets because they've got some factories pushing back to 22 nanometer for low-end chipsets they have TSMC stepping ends make veins and digitized reports that amidst the Intel manufacturing crisis the company's offloading its bottom and SKUs to TSM see this comes after Intel made it known that tsmc would be fabricating some of their low end chipsets something we reported on previously to help free up fab space for the highly in demand 40 nanometer silicon pending 10 nanometer production as techpowerup notes digitize does not expressly name that TSM C is the fabrication plant chosen for Celeron atom and Pentium CPUs but it is the only one that meets Intel's current criteria so short line to draw to get to that conclusion quick one here on a Suso asus is launching new tough gaming laptops that's t UF asus is taking pre-orders for the new tough series of gaming notebooks these are the tough FX v o5 + FX 705 interestingly both of the new models conform to the mill st st d810 g standard so back to the mill spec back to the the mil-std spec apparently the military standard specification is apparently a testing requirement that devices much must withstand harsh or extreme conditions and speaking truthfully I've actually worked with this back before I know that one of my my previous employers did test for example ruggedized notebooks using military specifications the difference there was that those were literally going to a war zone but as such HTS claims that the new laptops can withstand us solar radiation is one of the stronger points high altitudes extreme climate exposure and so forth the new tough models will ship with coffee lake mobile parts 144 Hertz IPS panels 10 series GPUs to check out the product pages I guess if you curious about those the thing we always kind of wonder about these are mused about these is that this is absolutely a market segment that needs to be fulfilled there are researchers there are members of the military there are people who go to the Arctic for research science things like that who can use this type of component I suppose the curious part is how much of that is getting used leveraged for gaming versus are those GPUs actually legitimately useful for the types of science being done so anyway laptops I guess next one Walmart and last one Walmart is trying to break into the PC market sort of embarrassingly as Walmart does so are not content to be left out of any market that it can attempt to get its hands all over its partnered with eSports Arena to bring their own gaming PC lines market dubs overpowered and the the Walmart overpowered line of gaming machines will comprise of one desktop currently and a pair of laptops you're curious about the parts here you go the desktop will offer an i7 8790 PU it will have a GTX 1080 it will have 32 gigabytes of RAM and it's got a 512 gigabyte SSD 2 terabyte hard drive will reportedly go for $1,900 retail the laptops will come in at 15 inch 17 inch variants offering 144 Hertz screens with unknown panel types 10 series GPUs 1060 or 1050 and either an i5 8300 H or I 78750 H and prices are $1,000 to 15 inch or 1700 for the 17 inch notebook so the specs are a bit I mean this is what do you expect I guess from Walmart at this point 32 gigabytes of RAM it just it seems like this is so common for the OEMs that really don't get it where they just fill it with RAM they like it's got four slots damn it let's put four sticks in it that's what they there for so it just it just seems like they don't quite get that if it's genuinely a gaming machine it probably doesn't need 32 gigabytes of memory it depends on your market if you're targeting someone who might be a content creator shirt but if you're just going for the gamer who it's Walmart it's real to hit retail store so likely its parents buying these things for their kids and it's just it's gonna figure it out Walmart I guess is what I'm saying because if it's parents buying it for kids it just doesn't seem likely that those kids are going to be thirty two gigabytes of RAM then again I don't know my job is gonna be taken by probably a fifteen year old at some point because that's the way YouTube goes so that's it for this week as always subscribe for more go to store that gamers nexus net to pick up one of our shirts like this one the foil graph logo shirt now in quad foil people said I should call it quad crossfire instead of Quad SLI so there you go or you can go to patreon.com/scishow and Razak to subscribe for more thank you for watching I'll see you all next time