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HW News - NVIDIA Multi-Chip GPU, Threadripper 1950X & 1920X

2017-07-14
everyone welcome back to our hardware news recap for the last week we're looking at the week of July 3rd for this one including some last-minute news that made it in on Rison thread ripper and the are three cpus none of those are finally officially announced with specifications and prices so we've got that more a lot of news from the NAND side of the industry and and and DRAM shortages and process changes and then a couple of other small items to get through because we're taking a break from Vega for one day here before getting to those that this coverage is brought to you by EVGA and their 1080p is c2 which we've recommended fairly highly for its build quality and the icx sensors which are kind of fun to play with you can check our full sc2 review for the 1080i if you're curious to learn more or you can click the link in the description below to find the product page for the 1080i sc2 starting with thread Ripper and the new rising CPUs so first of all the finalized official name is risin thread Ripper not just thread Ripper so it is rice and thread Ripper and that means that the threader for CBS will bear some of the same branding like r9 for instance but the main chips that were announced today were the 1920 X and then the 1950 X and those respectively are $800 $1,000 the 1920 X threader for CPU is a 12 core 24 thread CPU and then the 1950 X at $1,000 is a 16 core 32 thread CPU the 1950 X has a base clock of 3.4 gigahertz it will boost up to 4.0 and then the 1920 X is 3.5 and boosts to 4.0 as well so these are a bit slower than the high-end r7s that exist in terms of the base clock but overall they it's completely familiar architecture it's familiar clocks for the most part which is actually a bit higher than what some of the earlier rumors suggested so that's good to see and these TPS also support quad channel ddr4 that's kind of new official information the PCIe LAN count has already been known for a while at 60 with four go into the chipset so you might hear 64 when talking about the lane count on these CPUs and then finally the big thing here is it's likely still August 10th for the release date that's what we heard from a board partner back during Computex and AMD base we confirmed early August so that seems to align with that then this one was less sensational but still import important the renouncement of the horizon 3 the our 3 CPUs they're looking at 4 core 4 thread processors available July 27th so that's new as well new information and those should be analogous to Intel's i 5s and I 3's but we'll see we don't have full pricing yet it should be a bit cheaper obviously than the r5 1400 though Samson announced last week that it successfully bought its newest fad in pay on take South Korea online for v-nand production multi-billion dollar fab was initially intended to serve as a dram manufacturing facility but given the global flash shortage samsung has scaled the facility for non production at least for the time being Samsung's new facility will be the largest and most expensive fab in the world especially once the facility reaches full production capacity also in the NAND and dram world micron had a bit of an issue last week so a report by Trend Force indicated that micron was suspending its operations on its fab 2 facility because of a malfunction that allegedly according to trend force regarded a nitrogen leak so a gas leak and following that claim of the nitrogen gas dispensing system malfunction micron came out and said that they had an event they said that it was not a nitrogen week either way the temporary shutdown only serves to further hinder the DRAM and NAND supply right now an availability of things that's them from DRAM and then which is really most everything at this point so suspension will slow things down a bit it looks like it'll be about 5.5 percent of a slow down according to trend force in production and that could be enough to exacerbate some of the memory it is right now but Apple's iPhone really puts the biggest dent in all of it because they're going to take so much supply just to make the next iPhone 8 SK Hynix is beginning at mass production of its recently announced 72 layer NAND the noon and offers 4 billion cells improved circuit design 2 times faster internal operation speed and 20% NAND to controller speed increases SK Hynix plans to ramp up 3 Dean and production at its m12 and m14 facilities both in South Korea which will allow them to begin shipping more 3d NAND than planar NAND by the end of the year so this is part of the switchover in process that we've been talking about last week on the show we talked about the new Toshiba qlc NAND or quad level cell brand-new following PLC and beam and of course and that was interesting because it looked like from what the online reports and speculation suggested it was going to be a 100 to 150 PE cycles pretty limited 100 programming rate cycles is not a lot which means that you've got lower endurance and on other NAND and would follow the trend of for example PLC be much lower but following the initial reports and announcements on Toshiba's new ql scene and the company came out and said that they're touting a 1,000 programming race cycle instead of 100 to 150 quite a difference there and that's enough to start rivaling PLC net so if that's the case it will be potentially good for cost per gigabyte going forward if we're still unclear on this we're still really not we we lack the clarity right now like any official testing it's all just press releases at this point so there's a lot more to learn about TLC going forward but in the very least that's a pretty big difference and we should learn more at MMS next month the flash memory summit that happens in August of every year and now on to some of the miscellaneous news and product announcements aside from creating absurdly long product names Thermaltake has a new high end power supply the show off this is the thermal take i RGB plus 1250 watts and as the name implies it offers RGB lighting inside of a fully modular 80 plus titanium 1250 watt power supply the lighting is controllable via thermal takes alter which was just revamped for Tom texe 2017 the new PSU is equipped with Japanese capacitors a 14 centimeter rain net + fan or 140 millimeters and all heavy duty protections that you would expect on a titanium rated power supply unit though costs $400 EK water blocks also announced a new product last week and that's the m2 nvme heatsink these are interesting so this is a big trend right now where people keep making em to heat sinks some of them better than others but the thin is SSDs are kind of tricky to cool you really don't want a cool demand the man's being a bit warmer is technically better for endurance how much does it know it's hard to say but technically it's better for endurance to be warmer you want the controller to be cool though so if you're going to design like the perfect SSD heatsink for an m2 device you'd probably just make something that you glue on for sake of an easy explanation straight to the controller that would be the best way to do it but it doesn't look very good so these companies are still making different heat sinking solutions eks is a black powder coated heat shield which is 13 dollars and then they've got a $15 one that's nickel-plated as well the company claims that 11c reduction presumably in a controller temperature primarily and is meant for use on a 20 to 80 form-factor m dot 2 drives interestingly MSI has also just announced a new product line and this time it's brand new for them they've added their first line of gaming monitors dubbed the MSI optics looks like there will be two models initially the 27-inch optics g27 C and 24-inch optics G 24 C both models are basically identical aside from the size and both displays used Samsung TN pals with an 1800 hour curvature so yes they are curved following the trend with a 1080p resolution and 144 Hertz refresh rate with AMD freesync pricing has not yet been announced but this follows MSI's trend of attempting to extend into really everything they're on a tremendous growth trend right now the company over the past few years has done nothing but grow so that's why you see them getting into things like mice expanding their laptops getting into CPU coolers some things they do much better than others but the company is growing and that shows at the monitor so the reason to bring that up it's interesting because right now Asus is kind of the only other board vendor that's in basically everything EVGA has been slowly expanding they do cases para spies laptops and video cards now with power supplies being one of their leading aspects of business they have motherboards that on the side I guess but it'd be interesting to see if they get into monitors as well because that seems like a major place to make a play for these video card companies and finally Nvidia seems rather suddenly interested in MCM enabled product and technology in the future meaning multi die GPUs rather than a single monolithic die approach it's a similar approach to what AMD is pushing with Red River and epic and a white paper published by Nvidia they show simulations demonstrating and alleged at forty five point five percent improvement when comparing an MCM GPU design versus the latest and largest implementable monolithic die GPU there are some other interesting figures in the white paper as well we encourage you to take a look at it there is a publication on research and video comm if you're interested in that one but this looks to be like what ambi certainly has interested in Nvidia is now looking into it as well where the companies are segmenting the monolithic die approach into multiple dies that are connected by some sort of interface or infinity fabric is AMD calls theirs so that may be the future for avoiding the stagnation of Moore's law but there's a lot more to learn about it still that's all for this week as 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