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HW News - NVIDIA Turing RTX Gaming GPUs, Intel Video Cards, & X599

2018-08-17
everyone welcome back to another hardware news episode this one we have actually some pretty big news Intel hot on the heels of Nvidia talking about their RT X graphics cards Intel has teased their upcoming video cards and by upcoming I mean a couple of years from now but they wanted to hop on the bandwagon and make sure they got that in there early so in tiles got some announcements that are potentially somewhat significant going forward anyway case labs sadly closes its doors in the past week it's been announced by case labs that the company will be going under and Nvidia of course dominating the news cycle with RT X and with its touring architecture coming up soon on as a follow-on to the Volta architecture that we talked up previously with our Titan VIII before that this video is brought to you by Thermal Grizzlies high-end thermal paste and liquid metal thermal Grizzlies cryo knot is an affordable high quality thermal compound that doesn't face some of the aging limitations of 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meeting up with a couple of other people in the industry as well but NVIDIA has got its event spanning a couple of days there and there should be some sort of gaming celebration I think is what they're calling it but basically it's going to be probably some kind of touring related architecture discussion or at least video card teasing announcement because at this point we've seen it from sea graph on the professional side so it follows that the game inside would be next so at SIGGRAPH 2018 Nvidia announced a formal announcement of their touring GPU architecture and they viewed their new Quadro r-tx cards the Torino architecture highlights a number of new features like hybrid rendering and video is calling it and real-time rate racing RT and tensor cores are part of this it's not really news at this point that Nvidia is looking at real-time rate racing but this formalizes that it's Nvidia's next big push the Titan V and Volta architecture did have a significant foothold for real-time rate race and it's something we've talked about before where with help from things like denoising and with a relatively limited amount of rays it is possible to do real-time rate racing we're not there yet in the gaming world it'll happen eventually but it seems like NVIDIA wants to make that happen sooner than later and video has been pushing for this now for several years originally Tony Tomasi in a 2012 or 2013 presentation stated that they were looking at something like 2015 for real-time rate racing missed the window a bit but maybe it'll happen with the help of touring so the tensor cores that we saw in volt in the Titan VIII can actually be leveraged for real-time rate race and which makes them a bit more interesting it's not just the machine learning and deep learning that we previously thought it might be they do have more uses even within the world of gaming something that until the actual r-tx not like the geforce r-tx version but the rate racing software announcements from GDC is kind of when we learned that tens of course might actually have some use outside of things like deep learning and machine learning where it was originally targeted additional news on the touring front Nvidia is pulling over FP 16 support from Volta architecture taurine is more or less a stem from Volta architecture not a big surprise there and also they've got some int 4 and into 8 support enabled with the new Taurean architecture not sure how much that's going to impact our audience but we'll find out soon I suppose this will be more useful for non gaming applications immediately than in gaming applications pro visualization will certainly get use out of all the features announced at SIGGRAPH as that is a probe is conference so gaming comes next but the stream multi-process have been reworked architecture as well we don't have full details or block diagram on the sm layout just yet but typically the really high-end like GP 100 type cards have had a different SM layout than the gaming cards anyway so it'll be something where we might need two different diagrams one for gaming one for the high end depending on what Nvidia has changed specifically in the SM layout and part of Nvidia's focus is to speed up BBH processing here this was big for SIGGRAPH for that audience so for many three manipulation programs blender included like the blender GPU test we've done in the past they will use bounding volume hierarchies or bvh for object storage and taurine specifically is trying to speed up and accelerate bvh as a basically container for objects within that software so that's a big push along with ray-tracing and then nvidia is targeting a 25 X increase in rate race casting over Pascal just if you want a point of comparison versus previous non volta architectures certain will be a successor to volta we've previously detailed that volta the Titan V had a huge push for asynchronous compute support for the level api support and in a way that was reflected in games like Sniper Elite 4 and other DX 12 or vulcan games where it was properly executed not just a wrapper so we already confirmed publicly that you can expect continued improvements in the front of async compute something that NVIDIA hasn't been as loud about previously with Pascal but they've been making that moves for it and additionally alongside this announcement and video rolled out their first touring based GPUs formerly the workstation class Quadro RT x-series not only do the new cards highlight obviously the torreĆ³n architecture but they also feature our TX branding rather than just straight Quadro or GTX branding so this alludes to Nvidia's focus on real-time ray tracing and dedication to it being the big thing for this generation GD r6 memory unsurprisingly is here as well with the new cards we've already kind of detailed that several months ago at this point and the cards are RT x eight thousand six thousand and five thousand and in terms of coup de coeur account if you want to call them that it goes from 4608 on the 8006 to 3072 on the 5000 tents of course 576 for 8 and 6000 384 for 5000 and then the memories the big difference here 48 gigabytes of g6 for the r-tx 8000 24 gig for the 6000 and 16 for the r-tx 5000 again these are Provost cards not gaming clearly if for no other reason than looking at the B round capacity they are quite expensive just in case you're curious it's 10 grand us for the are TX 8000 it's about $6,300 us for the six thousand and twenty three hundred for the are TX five thousand and memory bus with is 380 four bits for the larger 2 and 256 for the smaller the Nvidia is using 14 gigabit per second memory on this so the first g6 round we know that hynek's micron and samsung have all been making GDR 6 for a while now Hynek started its mass production around july or there abouts maybe June and micron for a while Samson for a while now and 14 to 16 Giga bits is not unreasonable to hit 14 is going to be more common original or immediately and then 16 later on as the company's iterate on their process and improve their yields and things like that so that's what we're looking at for Nvidia's big news will get back to Nvidia in a moment but first case labs closes so this is certainly sad news the PC community case Labs has been a a very high-end brand for case manufacturing and if you've ever thought about getting a gigantic box for open-loop cooling maybe with tons of drive base support stuff like that that might last you a decade case labs has been one of the foremost companies to provide that experience and it shows too because a lot of their cases have been in use and deployed for a long time at this point and they've been in the 500 plus dollar range for many of the really high-end ones so case labs announced a few things for this closing they said that it looks like one of their major accounts has gone default or abandoned them or something they were basically dropped as a client and case labs as a result has lost a significant part of their revenue stream case Labs also cites material price increases of upwards of 80 percent as a result of what they claim to be the current tariffs that have been discussed lately in other hardware news episodes and so by losing the large account and facing the material price increases particularly in metals case Labs was forced to close business and it looks like there was almost a deal to save the company but it does not look like that one through at this time if you had an open order for case labs they say that they're trying to fulfill all orders the parts orders are more likely to be fulfilled than complete case orders at this point as they were largely handmade or individually ordered for the orders that came in so no guarantee that people with open full case orders will get them we don't know the status on how refunds are going to work but follow up with case labs if you have any open orders because at this point you might not get it next one Nvidia so back to this with filing a trademark for GeForce r-tx specifically for GeForce r-tx rumors were swirling for a while that the new GPUs could skew the long-standing gtx branding and with our TX announcements at SIGGRAPH those stopped being rumors and started being reality after SIGGRAPH it looks like with the gamescom announcement we might see our TX branding continued for geforce cards nvidia has filed its trademarks and over at the US Patent and Trademark Office and video filed for touring quadrille our TX and GeForce our TX as of now two of those taurine and quadra r TX have already been unveiled so we can expect clearly what the next one would be and Gamescom makes the most sense for that as that's where NVIDIA has already publicly indicated their gaming event I believe they call it a gaming celebration event which is probably under signing to debate and video teases the next GeForce lineups this is also in the news after announcing taurine and the new Turin based quad row cards and Vidya teased new geforce lineups with a short video subsequently redditors over at our and video dissected the video and found some Easter eggs alluding to what appears to be a GeForce r-tx 2080 announcement based on that we might finally know the answer to whether it would be eleven eighty or twenty 80 unless Nvidia's just messing around with all of us at this point but also rumor for this one Intel's ex 599 chipset will power the new skylake ex architectures and h EDT or HDTV plus cpus coming out soon intel has been working on a new h EDT platform in response to an DS threader for two and rumors suggest that it could coincide with a new ex 599 chipset while details are currently scarce information indicates that the chipset will use LGA 3647 sockets offer hexa channel memory support 12 dim sockets and featured chips based on skylake ax silicon and this might coincide with a 28 core processor but we're not clear at this time it was sort of originally shown as a processor that five gigahertz it was overclocked clearly we had a problem with some of the presentation of that but it we're not clear on what the status of that processor is it might have been going towards cascade lake eventually but was on Scylla cache originally one was shown as far as we understand it we're pretty confident in that so x5 9 and I'm not clear on what the final processor choices will be for that but it does look like 28 core makes sense for for that platform and then finally Intel graphics cards are actually real so in a move that seemed out of the Kris hook and Raja Kaduri playbook Intel followed suit on Nvidia's announcement to note that they too would have GPUs someday and this by the way Chris hook and Roger Kaduri both now work at Intel so makes sense that those play books would come into play for Intel here Intel's pushing for a 2020 launch on its GPUs we're not clear yet on whether those will be consumer focused or for professional users but it's a couple years away anyway Intel's pushing that it's IGP will be quote set free for its future d GPU options and that was really the start in the end of their marketing stick for the new GP is not much to show at this point there's some blue smoke some shrouded graphics cards likely old Larrabee stock and a teased future for Intel in graphics which actually all of the lack of information aside Intel coming into graphics especially for the gaming market would be great because we could use some more competition there it's been a duopoly for a while and NVIDIA has the lion's share of the market clearly so some other competition would be good if Intel can pull it together and do something just probe is but we'll see what they do and then finally hardware sales will link a couple below there was a 1080 SC with a 750 watt g3 modular power supply for 490 bucks if it's still on sale it'll be linked below monitors have been not bad lately graphics cards at this point because we know our TX or whatever it's called is coming up clearly the Pascal cards will be considered obsolete soon and they're probably end-of-life and a lot of instances not being made anymore or will soon stop being made so if you see those on sale might be worth picking up but just make sure it's actually a pretty good sale otherwise it's worth waiting a bit and seeing what comes out in the future for the gaming cards that's it for this time as always go to store doc guarantees access net to pick up some of our products like the GN beer glasses or the shirts that we've had like the Graf logo shirt was restocked recently you can go to patreon.com/scishow Gary's Nexus tops out directly or just subscribe for more information especially with all the announcements coming up I'll see you all next time
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