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everyone welcome back to a hardware news video for the last week where we're mostly focusing on deceitful and/or confusing GPU naming from both Nvidia and AMD like the new GT 1030 that uses ddr4 memory and has slower clock speeds so really spending a lot of time talking about that one an alleged AMD rx 500x which is not that Elijah because they did accidentally post it on their unofficial website and some stuff about microns at new fabs before that this video is brought to you by the EVGA z10 mechanical keyboard the EVGA z10 includes a small display readout top and center capable of providing hardware monitoring information and EVGA precision statistics the board ships with either MX brown or MX blue switches offers a column of programmable macro keys a volume slider a dimmer and a detachable wrist rest learn more at the link in the description below so this first news item is about the GT 10:30 with ddr4 we've railed against Andy and NVIDIA both in the past for this most recently from each company AMD had their rx 560 that had fewer compute units than the actual rx 560 that everyone reviewed at launch they basically well no they literally rebranded in our x4 60 as a 560 with fewer ciues Nvidia had the GTX 1063 gigabyte card which is fine if it were just three gigabytes but in actuality it also cut 10% of its simultaneous multi processors so we've talked about this before but it's time to talk about it again unfortunately just to remind everyone previously with the GTX 1063 gigabyte card we had this to say about it in the review we said it's just not a gtx 1060 it's a different product and videos choice to name the card as such will confuse buyers into thinking that it's just a 1060 with half the vram which is plainly false this is a gtx 10:50 TI a quick side note this is before 1050 TI's came out and NVIDIA decided not to call it that it's a marketing play that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing all these companies make marketing plays but this isn't one that we can brush aside as harmless because users will inevitably make the incorrect assumption that only vram is a difference well it's happening again this time the GT 1030 is the subject and for this one they've made quite a few changes one of them is moving from gddr5 to ddr4 another one is the clock change in base and boost clock so couple things here it's still BGA modules soldered to the board we're not talking ddr4 so-dimm sticks or something like that it's actually it's just soldered to the board the only difference is not gddr5 this is of course significantly slower than gddr5 it has different Layton sees worse latency is the new GT 1030 also has lower clocks it's 1151 megahertz as the new base and 1379 to 1430 as the new boost previously these clocks were twelve twenty seven for base and fourteen sixty eight to fifteen eighteen megahertz for boost pretty big difference and couple things here you could argue that the memory change going to ddr4 from gddr5 on a card which is inherently restricted by the core not necessarily the memory is not a big deal you could argue that and you might even be right maybe it's not a big deal we haven't actually tested it what's less arguable are two other things one the clock speed change will impact performance and two it's irrelevant whether you can argue that the change isn't a big deal anyway because the product is different it doesn't matter how that difference is realized in performance it's not the same product and that impacts everybody that impacts buyers particularly at the low end which are likely to be newcomers to the market who look up reviews from people like us see a GT 1030 see performance metrics by a GT 1030 not knowing that has ddr4 and slower clock speeds and get worse performance that reflects poorly on us it reflects poorly on NVIDIA it confuses the buyers and you end up with an ecosystem that is just really unnecessarily confusing and potentially unintentionally or intentionally deceitful that's a lot of chillies in one sentence but either way you get the point so Nvidia here and let's let's take their GPB boats if they value let's take that blog post face value nothing weirds going on the hard osep story never came out we're in a universe where GPP went up on Nvidia's blog it was ignored because it was a company blog and everyone really didn't know any better well okay so if we take an videos at version of GPP at face value and we ignore all the extra information around it then what we're left with is a program which claims to clarify the market for buyers it claims to make it easier for a buyer to understand what they're getting well then that's pretty contradictory to launching a GT 1030 that has a completely different memory subsystem it has completely different memory it has different clock speeds the only thing that's not different is the core couch or the vector can--it as it were so this is something that is complete and utter and we find wholly unacceptable it was unacceptable when AMD did it with the RX 560 it was unacceptable when nvidia did it with a GTX 1060 3 gigabytes I had 10 percent fewer SMS and it's unacceptable now with the GT 1030 this is a problem it reflects poorly on everybody in the industry the only person who really loses is at the face of it going to be the consumer who buys it expecting a different card and even if the performance is equivalent let's just pretend it's exactly the same it's irrelevant the product is not the same product so it doesn't get the same name this is a GT 1020 not a GT 1030 it is inherently a cheaper product to build and should be branded as a different product line that is cheaper to buy so very unhappy with the GT 1030 and this is getting to a boiling point where we've got both AM D and Nvidia rebranding cards into things that they are not and they're selling them to people who don't understand what's going on so that's a problem that's not something that we can accept it's not something that we will stand by watch it's complete and just to be clear here again a 100 megahertz clock swing is measurable I can measure that difference in performance and we will as soon as we can find the cards and buy them so very strange it's very strange behavior by Nvidia they're in a dominating position they don't need to do this they could launch this product as a DT 1020 if they wanted to and it'd still be it'd be fine I would have ignored it completely never hear about it from me but we also wouldn't be bashing it because it wouldn't be inherently deceitful whether or not Nvidia means for it to be so Nvidia and AMD because if any AMD employees are watching and laughing at your opposition getting slammed right now I'd like to remind you that you've done the same thing just please stop the RX 560 using rebranded arch 4 60s with fewer C use then were announced when the AMD product page at launch had a specified C account which was later changed silently to have a an or in there C use X or Y that's not okay it's not okay that the GT 1030 exists either and I want to keep doing this until it stops which is going to be never so expect to see this again but yeah in other news Nvidia announced a new GT 1020 with ddr4 memory and if you'd like to buy one we suggest that you don't next news item AMD is preparing new GPUs just have this discussion there's got new GPUs this is the RX 500 x-series in fairness putting an axe at the end is at least a different letter leave it they've added a character to the name so there's some differentiation between a and B here but earlier this week Andy accidentally posted a new Radeon rx 500 X category on their official website before it's prompts removal by the way the rx 500 x-series is rumored to be a refresh unsurprisingly on Polaris the rx 500 series which was a refresh on Polaris the RX 400h and so it's a it's a refresh and that as a refresher of history of refresh is the RX 585 70 and so forth we're basically pre overclocked 400 series cards with a more mature process they could handle slightly higher frequencies they were also given lifted voltage limits in overclocking tools so as an overclocker you could increase the voltage on the card so you could overclock past the pre overclock so at the end of the day you ended up with actually a pretty decent product although very power hungry for something like an RX 580 even compared to an arts for 8 the nature of drawing or pushing more clocks at a higher voltage is that it draws more power but it was pretty competitive so now what it looks like is happening there's an rx 500 X which is a refresh and that's probably going to be shaping up similarly we're expecting a 5 to 6 percent improvement in performance over all tweak Townsend Anthony Gore ephah has indicated that sources have told him 5 to 6 percent which was consistent with what we would expect from a pre overclocked rx 580 which is a pre overclocked rx 480 so it's it's a pre over overclock basically and that number makes sense 5 to 6 percent if it comes out which it probably will power consumption almost certainly will be higher as you'd expect and the only other change maybe they go with 9 gigabit per second gddr5 because it does exist but at the memory prices today doesn't make a lot of sense so we'd expect gddr5 at 8 gigabits per second max for these cards and no other major changes except for the clocks and the 500 T's does a partner only launch so it's reasonable to suspect that the 500x series is probably a partner only launch and no reference cards will be made but we'll see probably no reference cards should be made because if they're overclocking the pre overclocked card it's gonna be a bit much for that reference cooler to handle so yeah in the very least there's a letter on the end so I'm not gonna get as mad as with the GT 1030 but it's still kind of silly next one micron is building that new 3d NAND fabs for 2020 so there's a news item I don't have to be enraged that micron has broken found on the expansion of their Singapore campus and this is with the intent of mass production of 3d net which is used for things like SSDs so known as phase three because the campus has already begun the expansion process previously twice actually construction is scheduled to be completed by quarter 2 of 2019 not far from now actually and wafers are coming off the lines in quarter 4 of 2019 as well so volume and mass production expected on tap for 2020 maybe the memory prices will change at that time we'll see next n core v1 as a Kickstarter page now direct I cooling for LGA 1151 on this thing the N core view on is a somewhat unique water block designed for deleted LGA 1151 socket CPUs interestingly the N core v1 excuse the IHS and drops in on top of the die without a frame in the past a frame has been required to mitigate the risk of cracking the die under the stress of mounting pressure in the absence of an IHS for non-believers there's a version of the M core v1 that comes with a floating frame offering a more traditional mounting experience additionally the N core v1 is available with a d-lighting tool compatible with LGA 1151 socket based chips the N core v1 also touts adjustable water flow with water flowing up to 20 times closer to the CPU package based on their Kickstarter page and kickstart videos things like that I don't know if we'll review this one we do have their Bowers direct diaphragm which is a different product but we'll get around to that once we have a production version of it right now just pre-production might visit this one if there's enough interest in it and then finally the next major news item here Apple plans to replace Intel CPUs with their own ships in 2020 this is a recent report from Bloomberg which suggests that Apple is intending to unload Intel as their cpu provider for Mac computers and suggesting that they will be going with an in-house design within the next 2 years Apple sought a partnership with Intel back in 2006 however Apple has been making moves to shed outside providers completely in what is ostensibly an ambition to control every single aspect of their device aces and Happel also dumped both Qualcomm and imagination technologies who are now struggling quite a bit to design and implement their own silicon for iPhones perhaps it was only a matter of time before Apple wanted custom solutions for all of their products and according to Bloomberg Apple represents roughly 5% of Intel's annual revenue and Intel stock prices fell 9.2 percent once the report broke I've presents a big chunk of revenue so if they lose out on that it's going to be a big deal it remains to be seen whether Andy will have some sort of semi custom solution as they've been marketing to a lot of vendors lately including Intel for future Apple products but the rumors indicate that Apple wants to take control of this and do it in the house so I think that's it for this week's news recap any additional items would be bad for blood pressure so we'll cap it there but I do really want to leave you with the GT 1030 and other rebranded products stories like the previous 560 that we talked about or 550 whatever it was if we could just not buy those that'd be good I think that would pretty much send the message that I want to be sent so if you see them hard pass that's it for this time makes for watching subscribe for more go to patreon.com/scishow selling because I keep making manufacturers mad so you can go there and help us out go to store that gamers nexus net to pick up one of our new mod mats which has the new matte black background and we realized also it's got some more traction to it as a result so pretty cool for modding stuff thanks for watching I'll see you all next time