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hey Ron welcome back to a hardware news recap for the past week of news in the industry we have information on coffee lake Vega 11 colorful is crazy motherboard that they have for mining and a couple of new keyboard switches along with information on Paul from Paul's hardware before that this is brought to you by the EVGA 240 c LC which is a $120 MSRP closed-loop liquid cooler the EVGA 240 c LC has an RGB illuminated pomp plate uses a thermal probe with in the lower pump chamber for liquid temperature monitoring and allows customization through software learn more at the link in the description below the first news item for the week is that Paul from Paul's hardware has been lying to you all he's secretly a GPU miner and it hurts me just as much to say it as it hurts you to hear it but gamers Nexus recently came to find out that yes Paul from Paul's hardware does have very serious GPU mining problems and Paul after you attempted to call me out for using the word gouge in your recent podcast I really had no recourse but to bring up this serious problem of yours with GPU mining and you know the thing is Paul and Kyle with that live stream opened up with some questionable content that probably violates twitch Terms of Service and following that and obviously a bout of embarrassment they decided to change the topic to talk about my use of the phrase price gouging which apparently has a specific definition in 13 US states so as Paul points out the phrase price gouging in these states is only usable for things like food and gas topics which Paul is no doubt very familiar with well here's ago Paul uploaded a video entitled reclamation garage where clogged for Paul I'm here to call you out reclamation has a very specific legal definition here in the US quoting US legal calm the Congress of the United States enacted public law 95-87 of course you know of this one I'm sure the law was known as the surface mining control and reclamation act of 1977 known heretofore as reclamation law reclamation law often involves financing of abandoned mining sites and establishing an abandoned mine land reclamation fund to finance said restoration of said land think about it all of his garage wear clogs may seem like an innocent way to make content on a morning's notice but in reality Paul is building the ultimate GPU mining facility in his garage and he's using government funds to finance that project and the reclamation of the garage so Paul I'm sorry it had to be this way the people had to know your use of the legal phrase reclamation doesn't fool anyone here gotcha all right so I rest my case on that if you want to see their episode go to pause hardware or bit wit and they've got their full live stream over there two episodes one on each channel it's worth watching just you know make sure Paul knows about the reclamation things so first real news item not that Paul isn't a real news item vague 11 according to digit times and tech power up it sounds like Andy is looking to shift its packaging responsibilities off of ASE and on to another facility so this other one is called silicon where precision industries or SPI L and SPI L has already begun packaging Vega 10 GPUs and they have reportedly through digit x and other reports that techpowerup sites reportedly have been tasked with vega 11g p is going forward and this is well let's give an idea why this happened first I suppose so ASE was partly responsible for Andy's limited launch quantities with Vega 10 GPUs which were the 64 and 56 cards that came out Vega 10 is the actual GPU that's on there and because of units getting stuck in packaging and assembly not packaging like this but packaging like getting the HP on the interposer and the dye all on to a single package with yield actually being usable afterward that process apparently wasn't going over so well with ASE so it sounds like AMD is splitting or moving these these responsibilities in part to SP il-4 vega 11 and potentially vega 10 as well as for vega 11 and the specs we're not yet sure if that will run gddr5 or HBM to vega 11 will definitely be a new GPU from vega 10 so that much is certain and it's possible that Andy could have a built-in gddr5 controller with vega 11 the lower and GPUs where they stick with HP m2 on Vega 10 that's possible but we just don't know yet the HBM set up on their HPCC the protocol has the capability as does the rest of the GPU to use either gddr5 or HBM 2 but the controller on vega 10 only is for HP m - they don't have a gddr5 controller on the Vega 64-56 and frontier edition card so it's only possible for them for AMD T's HBM - on those cards if they go with the gddr5 controller on vega 11 then maybe something will change there but we just don't know right now so either way vega 11 has the opportunity to pick between them to pen a knife and the designed gddr5 memory controller for 11 what the power parameters might be things like that we'll talk about that more when the time comes but for now the egg 11 is slated to replace Polaris so the 500 and 400 lines which have seen shortages throughout most of the year should be replaced by Vega 11 at some point in the semi near future for the next news item coffee Lakes 1151 sockets been making rounds as rocks recent Z 370 motherboard and other document leaks have shown that the new coffee like motherboards will use socket LGA 1151 just like the existing at z2 70 motherboards it's a little bit upsetting that the coffee lake CPUs won't be backwards compatible with LGA 1151 boards from z2 70s line from what we know now it looks like a Z 370 and Z 270 won't have significant chip set differences and they're gonna have the same socket it's very pretty much the same architecture that's not to say coffee lake is on exciting as a CPU going to six cores is pretty interesting but does it need to exist on a new motherboard if it's got the same socket very similar if not the same chipset and same TDP same pretty much everything what what's the impetus there for having a new motherboard requirement that's what I am interested in so that's pretty frustrating but also something that Intel's done in the past this is not new for Intel to force a motherboard change with a CPU release in recent years they've done a little bit better with having inter compatible boards and CPUs hopefully there's some unofficial support of that here but to move away from it in an official stance is definitely disappointing so a little disappointed in Intel for that but as tom's hardware points out the leaked asrock page did differ a bit from previous leaks that have been around for coffee like specifications but not in significant ways in terms of the specs everyone's been talking about so that leaks the differences in the leaks from what Tom's Hardware noted on the asrock page were that the core counts lineup as the i5 still being six core six threads that's the same i7 is still six core twelve thread i3 is still four core four thread but the i3 8350 k's TDP is listed as 91 watchon as rocks page where previously was in the 60 watt range and then the cache is also listed as nine megabytes for the 80 600 k and eight megabytes for the 83 50 k which is a bit higher than the previous leaks or rumours as well but not too much so that's the only real change their colorful is that latest motherboard is a quote professional mining motherboard which eliminates reliance on riser cards by instead creating a board that's nearly 2 feet long at 485 by 195 millimeters the board hosts 7 PCIe x16 16 slot using an additional 16 PCIe power cables along the board alongside one EPS 4 pin this bypass is a 24-pin connector which could potentially cause issues in some configurations or with some power supplies depending on how they're doing signaling the motherboard also takes live with memory here so colorful is using a sodium module rather than a full-length dim and IO is limited to two USB 2.0 one HDMI and one rj45 and there's also a single SATA 3 port present so aside from looking kind of comical not really sure how useful that is even to the serious miners a lot of the pictures I've seen generally look like they've just got a bunch of riser cards hanging off of boards and then you have people like either a sister asrock recently with that board that had in the teens of a very short PCIe connectors on their motherboard with just a bunch of risers sticking out of them so that was the spill a different market I don't know but it's another interesting colorful creation so the very least of getting media coverage of it in the West can we've seen a lot of that in the past week next news item here Jones bow and there TW closed-loop liquid coolers so Jones bow for those who don't know Jones bow is a supplier in the case industry and a design company they supplied the Roseville Cullinan case and the an ADIZ a I crystal that's the same case it's made by Jones Bowl ultimately and they provide a lot of the other cases in the market as well they've provided several of the mini ITX cases in the past specifically two rows well like they're like a CW one series that was a Jones bow design and recently woke up and stuck tempered glass on everything so you're seeing a lot more of them now even if they're just rebrand ultimately so this company is now getting into closed-loop liquid coolers and they're doing that with a TW series starting with TW 120 and 240 CL CS and the focus is largely on design here so Jones was using a hexagon shaped pump block with hexagon stamps in the fan housing so it's stamped out with hexagons everywhere and RGB LEDs everywhere or at least LEDs everywhere apparently supports synchronization with ACS and MSI motherboard software and the ID matches between the fan and the pump so kind of different definitely got more of an industrial look to it or something but that's new from Jonesboro this week the next news item is kales new mini choc PG 1 2 3 2 switches which minimize switch height for mechanical keyboards these PG 1 2 3 2 switches that use a smaller form factor than what we're used to with the Cherry MX clones or the Cherry MX which is the pre travel is about one point two millimeters plus or minus 0.5 millimeters apparently an actuation is two point four millimeters this should feel similar to the MX blues in terms of actuation force required its clicky only for now and the company is looking into alternatives if there's interest but other than that it's basically a smaller version of what already exists in case you wanted a an ultra small form-factor mechanical switch and then finally this is some website news so we finally switched over to SSL so the website should be fully HTTPS now rather than HTTP if you want to check it out you can go to gamers Nexus dotnet I don't think anything's broken specifically because of the switch tasks SL there are things that are broken I don't think that's will hi if you see any page loading errors or other redirect issues that pertain specifically to SSL tweet at us at cameras Nexus let me know and we'll get those resolved but lots of stuff going on for the website the first one was moving the SSL then we've got some other updates back-end performance wise things like that and eventually some front end changes so that's all for this time at patreon.com slash gamers Nexus if you'd like to help us out directly subscribe for more I'll leave a quick note here for the next ten days or so I'm going to be producing a lot of the videos on my own andrew is heading out for a little bit so we're gonna be shooting in this setup because it's already all set up like this and I apologize if the editing is not quite up to what you're used to but I'll do my best so thank you for watching I'll see you all next time we've information on a few things Coffee Lake vaguely