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HW News: Ryzen+Vega APU Specs & Q3, PCIe 4 Spec Finalized

2017-10-27
there's a lot of Harvard news this week this is our second news video already for the week so obviously 1070 Ti is one of them we're gonna focus a little less on that because kind of really detailed some of it there is risin AP you with Vega inclusion news that's kind of interesting and AMD q3 earnings Intel avx-512 support for Cannon Lake PCIe 4.0 spec finalization and then a couple of new products on the market from a seasoned Corsair before we get into that this content is brought to you by the Thermaltake flow RGB closed-loop liquid cooler which is a 360 millimetre radiator plus 3 120 fans that are RGB illuminated if then we'll take it ringg fans at that this is a 4.5 done a stacked pump which one of the faster pumps you can learn more at the link in the description below the 1070 t I will start us off that was officially announced yesterday at a time of filming and we primed that announcement with our teardown of the Vulcan X card from colorful we also posted the specs on the website along with the release date which is November 2nd the 10th so DDI feels an odd position on the market much like the 950 or yeah the 950 once did and it uses the same GP 104 as the 1080 and the 1070 the GPU though is a cut-down 1080 running 19 SMS instead of 20 and SMS have 128 CUDA cores per SM so it's just a couple CUDA cores lower than a 1080 basically this one is branded as GP 104 300 the 1080 was GPU 104 410 70 is GP 104 200 and it's lots obviously between those two 19 SMS at 128 CUDA cores per SM puts the 1070 Ti at 24 32 shaders where the GTX 1080 runs 2560 shaders and the 1070 runs 1920 that means that the 1070 Ti is much closer to a 1080 in performance than a 1070 and that's doubly the case when considering a reference TDP of 180 watts power budget will vary per board as usual and will be the biggest player in determining overclocking power budget Headroom we'll look into that more in the future as we get more cards though as for other specs the 1070 Ti it loses 8 extra map units and one TPC along with its amputated SM but keeps the wrap count and the memory capacity the memory however is different using gddr5 eight gigabit per second rather than g5x ten gigabits per second resulting in a memory bandwidth deficit of 64 gigabytes per second on the TI lower that is not total clocks are marked at 1607 megahertz base the same as the 1080 and 1683 boost the boost clock is 50 megahertz at lower than the GTX 1080s and partner cards will be forced to ship at the same base and boost clock as Nvidia's reference card this means that out of box performance will be functionally the same thermal or power limitations of course notwithstanding and will fall to user overclocking to overcome which is actually permitted by the way this is clearly a move that's attempting to counter Andes Vega 56 which is definitely Andy strongest Vega card that's shipped negative 56 more or less usurps Vega 64 and on the process frontier edition so it's been the one card we've pointed to out of the Vega family where we've said this thing actually competes pretty damn well with the gtx 1070 which i'm a sharpie - MSRP is the direct competitor obviously that's not how things panned out because of the market and it's how unpredictable it is right now they get still as pricing and availability issues the partner cards haven't made it yet even the asus one that we technically have is not even ready for review so Vega is still waiting which means that this is an opportune time for Nvidia to push out a 1070 Ti on what they're trying to do here is to keep the market attention on NVIDIA product so while the 1070 TI doesn't really make much sense from a consumer standpoint either you well not all of them can exist you kind of either have a 1070 TI or a 1080 and it's more likely gonna be one or the other not both cards existing at the same time because the price is so close but we'll find out the review but the point is that the discussion now will be well why would you buy X when you could buy Y instead of why would you buy sunsetting when you could buy a bag of 56 it's gonna be why would you buy a 1070 or a 1080 when you can buy TI or why would you buy a TI with you by 1080 or a 1070 so Vega 56 starts to fall out of the argument I think that's what videos going for more than actual just straight sales of the 1070 TI it seems more like keeping a attention on the three cards that they have all grouped and clustered around the 56 which from that aspect we'll see if it works will see how the 1070 di does in benchmarking and the review which will be out along with the release of the card November 2nd so keep an eye out for that one next up AMD officially announced its Raven Ridge apu alongside the 1070 TI on the same day within an hour of each other the Raven Ridge APU is a quad-core CPU with a single CCX rising of course and a Vega IGP jointly bridged by Andes infinity fabric interconnect the CPU and GPU can directly communicate by the interconnect which does mean that like all other ap use faster memory is going to benefit the Raven Ridge apu we lose some cache with Raven Ridge versus the usual rise in zeppelins but also gain the IGP and a modular structure for the CPU as a whole as opposed to one where the components are tighter together a total of 640 streaming processors are present on the town of Vegas to use which should be coupled with high speed memory for best effect Raven Ridge is IMC Sports 30 200 megahertz memory maximally and AMD did provide some of its internal benchmarks for the apu though note that the overwatch one is at a 79 percent render scale of 720p which functionally equates an iPhone 5 display at 11:36 by 640 regardless the rest of the numbers have promised for instances where a cheap discrete GPU isn't an option well look into this when we have the product in hand at a chance but it be reasonable to assume performance would be similar to a low-end r 5 GPU not the CPUs but the older r 5 GPUs or a low-end 700 series desktop GPU maybe something like its own 50 or 550 or something like that as for and these mobile processors those include the Rison 7 2700 you now with higher exif our head room and the r 5 2500 you and the also posted its quarter 3 earnings keeping with the and e news for a moment this reported a 71 million net income for the quarter so they are technically in the black now and for perspective quarter 3 of 2016 last year's reporting's for the same period had an d- 406 for the same metric so to go from negative 406 to plus 71 looks pretty good the quarter - 2017 earnings also for perspective posted a 16 million loss GAAP or GAAP andy has increased its gross margins to 35% from 33% up from 5% in second quarter 2016 and the company reported a 1.6 billion dollar revenue last quarter the company reported revenue of 1.2 billion dollars relatively stagnant if looking at 3rd quarter 2016 as well earnings per share are also out of the negatives now at 7 cents per share and of its revenue and the reports 819 million from computing and graphics which includes both GPU and CPU divisions on the desktop side primarily and another 824 million comes from Enterprise embedded and semi-custom solutions where Andy was focusing for a while when it did its whole 5 pillars then looking at cash flow and total debt and he still has a long fight ahead even though it was a pretty good quarter for them as of June 2017 and he has a 77% 23% debt to equity split or ratio of 3.4 for reference Intel's ratio is 0.47 and Nvidia's is 0.35 and he is on an uptrend from risin and semi-custom solutions though which is good news overall they just have to keep it up going into next year one final note here there's been some issues reported with Vega and destiny to some specific levels in the game and these aware of the issues as is Bungie and both of them are working to resolve them AMD tells us that it's the highest possible priority Bungie has also reported that they're working with AMD to try and troubleshoot why the game crash is on I think is mission 6 with the Vega card so that may even be resolved by the time this video goes up because they're both looking into it now as we speak so good news there for destiny players with Vega hopefully gets fixed soon and we will post a short news article on the website once it is that way if you've stopped playing you can find it and know it's time to play again Intel's Nexo avx-512 for Cannon Lake was in the news this was a story over on an attack where they talked about the Intel purported including a baby x5 12:4 cannon lake which is Intel's upcoming ten nanometer architecture slated for next year it was delayed out of this year and that looks like it's gonna be new instructions from the Xeon skylake chips including integer fuse to multiply add commands and as an attack points out avx-512 support coming to Canada Lake indicates at larger caches and increased memory bandwidth but we don't yet know which kind of Lake CPUs will support avx-512 it just is in Intel's programming reference document that you can get online this isn't much of a consumer feature today but it's worth keeping an eye on to see if they have plans otherwise the next news story we've been following for a little while it's PCIe 4.0 so PC is IG has now released a version 1.0 of the spec last time we spoke of it was 0.9 that was released and PC is IG the group responsible for the PCI interface is fast tracking both Gen 4 and Gen 5 Gen 5 is supposed to be shipping well not shipping the spec should be done for Gen 5 in 2019 and then obviously you've got a bit of a latency there before it's picked up and actually on motherboards so probably won't be 2019 but the spec for 4.0 has hit version 1 now and the takeaway here same as it has been PCIe gen for effectively doubles the bandwidth per Lane so if you have an X 8 slot of Gen 4 it would carry the same bandwidth as an X 16 or a by 16 slot on Gen 3 and that means that theoretically if you're in a band with limited scenario or you're in a Lane limited scenario you can run graphics cards on by 8 and if you're not exceeding bandwidth on by 16 3.0 which you're probably not definitely not then you won't exceed it on by 8 4.0 so you could run that and then you save your other lanes for other things like dual nvme SSD is or whatever the case may be so that's the main takeaway there by 16 with Gen 4 just to give an idea we'll have about thirty one point five gigabytes per second of bandwidth so roughly double of what the pcie 3.0 does finally for new products for the week asus has the new expedition a 320 M motherboard for the m4 platform the ACS motherboard target to East Asia market primarily with an anti humidity coding and memory locking mechanisms to prevent theft and that's because they are targeting internet cafes on PC Baynes in Korea the expedition a 320 M has a joint that locks the back of the motherboard to the memory slots which prevents the memory socket from opening without a screwdriver the motherboard is specifically built for eye cafes and it plans to fight damage and corrosion from humidity with a coating on the board the expedition runs a six phase vrm off of the EPS Robo power and host a single PCIe by 16 slot and the expedition is mostly noteworthy for its insane color scheme it's starting to look more like asrock than a soos at this point the anti-humidity n-- is also kind of an as Rock feature so looking like that I don't know we'll see it in the in the West but it's a new board from ASOS and it's got a couple of interesting features in the lease and then the last item Corsair slaps tempered glass onto the speck oh for so that's I mean it's a speck o4 with glass hot that's what it is we revealed this back up for if you're interested in the speck up for with glass read the spec up for review and then pretend that we said it had a tempered glass on it and that's the opinion that it's the same thing so check that out if you're interested in that one 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