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HW News - Threadripper 2 TDP, Intel Kills Rumors, & X399 Board

2018-07-14
everyone welcome back to another hardware news recap we have one bit of software news this week which is notepad part of Windows is getting the first update it's gotten in a very long time so notepads get an update Intel also debunked rumors regarding the death of its Extreme Edition branding I guess the rumors of its demise were greatly exaggerated a German Court forbids the soon marketing surrounding pre-orders and things like that especially affecting Kickstarter IndieGoGo campaigns that'll be interesting threaded for TDP more or less confirmed at this point and some follow-up news on things we spoke about in the last two Hardware news episodes before that this video is brought to you by NZXT is new h 500 case which we recently found to have an impressively effective cooling setup that is entirely negative pressure when stock the H 500 is the successor of the s 340 and s 340 a lead offering high build quality that's all steel and glass and kael management features that are also a 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websites online PC gamer reached out to Intel and Intel responded that quote there is no change to the branding of the Intel Core Extreme Edition processor and Intel Core x-series processor family so that's more or less the entirety of that news item extreme edition apparently isn't going anywhere we'll see if that remains true though a German Court this is the next one so a German Court forbids the soon TM marketing that we've seen all over the place this court ruled that it is illegal to sell pre-orders without specifying certain parameters like delivery dates the case originates from an advertisement soliciting pre-orders for the Samsung Galaxy s6 back in August of 2016 and this used the phrase vault fair fook bar which is coming soon this applies to both physical goods and software licenses like video games that's where it gets interesting for this one so if valve ever mentions half-life 3 again they'll be in big trouble the ruling up holds an earlier judgement and will become final after the appeals period expires so going forward this is not just a ban on pre-orders or anything like that this is specifically talking about instances like that of the samsung galaxy s6 where you could buy into the phone and then who knows when it'll show up so it's not just announcing the availability of the product with the pre-order and giving a launch date it's also when are you going to get it because as we all know you can order it early if it's something like a phone there's still no guarantee that you actually get one when it comes out because there might be a big wait list so you could be waiting a long time so this should more or less shut that down good for the consumer overall not great for companies but the consumer is the one that needs the protection here so interesting ruling from Germany we'll see how it goes and how it plays out in the appeals period thread report EDP more or less confirmed at this point this has been confirmed a few times now but just to go over it one more time and these thread Ripper to line up is due out in August probably the second or third week of August from everything we've seen and this is officially stated by Andy it's known to be August not a rumor so there's a again likely launch window around the 13th from rumors are saying that's not official and we already had official information bouncing back and forth that suggested a 250 watt TDP for the upcoming thread over to processors this is a pretty significant uplift and means that with overclocking specifically there could be concerns for existing x3 99 motherboards with the vrm and vrm cooling solutions that are in place today - 250 watt TDP for some of the upcoming throw 2 for 2 CPUs and including a 24 core and a 32 core with the higher TD be assigned obviously to the 32 core there's a new gigabyte x3 9 extreme motherboard listing as well that supports this claim of the TDP and this further supports build Zoids previous concerns in one of his videos about existing x3 99 of motherboard vrm support of threader / to power requirements and - which by the way am the underscore James on reddit replied saying quote maybe you should wait till you get your hands on the product before spending time drawing conclusions but salty there but turns out build Zoid was right so if you're planning on overclocking thread ripper despite the unnecessarily snarky response from AMD it appears that there is cause for consideration here on existing x3 99 boards that's why new ones are coming out like the MSI x2 9 & 9 creation that we saw at Computex which we should have footage of in a video on the channel if you're interested in it which by the way that's one of the most beefed out boards we've seen for this platform so far actually it's the most that we've seen for the platform so far so for overclocking purposes you're gonna want to look into new x2 nandana 399 boards that's getting really old today with stronger v arms for big overclocks stock is a different story naturally you don't need as much for stock but that's the nature of running something stock speaking of the ex 399 extreme board viewers of our content will be happy to hear that gigabyte has specifically marked the heatsink as having fins as an on the slide that was leaked there's an arrow pointed to it that's a fins so this is something manufacturers have been rediscovering lately gigabyte will give them credit was one of the first to really put a proper heatsink on an X 470 I am for motherboard it looks like they're trying to carry that over to X 399 and is also something that we showed at Computex if you want to see their ex 399 board we did have a preview there for you so looking to use a 10 + 3 B RM we're not sure on what power stages are actually used so I know there's some discussion online but we're gonna wait and get some final official information on that before we go further with it next at news item SK Hynix and Samsung apparently have suspicions that some of their intellectual property and patents are being stolen by China based DRAM companies following up on two stories we had in the last couple of weeks The Korea Times reports that Chinese memory chip manufacturers are quote attempting to infringe on samsung and SK patents according to an official who remained unnamed for the article no specific company is accused and Samsung and SK have both declined to the Korea Times request for comment so we've got a limit to what we can really talk about here this still adds to the pile of patent infringement drama that we've been reporting on the last couple of weeks which recently resulted in the temporary bans of a few micron products in China Chinese companies are trying hard to break into the semiconductor market but it's hard to feel sorry for the massive corporations when they're a constantly under investigation for price-fixing at the same time so if that's still going on for hynek's Samsung and micron while there are these patent and IP thefts concerns as well and if you don't know China as in the government of China is actively looking into creating its own state-owned memory manufacturers as well which would introduce competition to the market for the only three memory manufacturers that exists currently but it would be different in that it would be state-owned or at least partially state-owned from from what the reports online have indicated anyway so interesting story to follow we don't have a lot more than that right now next one this is something that we saw published on on Tom's Hardware so credit to them for this story but Tom's is getting brave and venturing into things that are just kind of loosely related to both politics and hardware we try to stay out of politics and we do successfully but when it impacts the space that's when we'll talk about whatever is going on I'm going to present this neutrally and just talk about what I read on the top story so bear with me here so this is the regarding the so-called trade war that's been discussed lately and tom says that the tariffs imposed on Chinese goods about a week ago or so could potentially impact the price of PC components and pre-built systems this impact may not be direct but there are concerns about supply chain disruptions to products that use Chinese parts it's unlikely that retailers will swallow the higher costs but will likely pass them on to consumers instead the trade war goes both ways here so this is bad news for both American companies importing from China and Chinese companies trying to expand in the u.s. like Alibaba who are actually facing issues now with investment and growth in u.s. for Alibaba and Aliexpress so that's all we're gonna say on that one but so I'm going to pay attention to you because it does exit like direct hardware news but it's very related to the industry we've talked about price a lot lately regarding things like price fixing and this is potentially impacting prices as well so we'll keep an eye on it for you next one up this is this is a fun news item if you are like many of us in the enthusiast space notepad is something of a sacred program it's meant to be as untouched and unfilled with bloat as possible you just use it to copy and paste things in the strip formatting for example or take easy notes or do some simple Python scripting something like that so Microsoft the creators of the smash hit paint 3d which we can show you some footage of if you haven't seen it are now updating notepad for the first time in many many years and this concerned us when we first saw the headlines because I was worried about notepad 3d a be in the next thing so it sounds like they deserve some cautious optimism this time this time Microsoft is updating notepad and notes that the improvements that will be rolled into the Windows 10 red stone 5 update include quote support for UNIX and Macintosh line endings wraparound Finder plays toggling so ctrl-f can search the whole document rather than just above or below the cursor text zooming ability to see the real line and column numbers even when word wrap is enabled and improved performance when opening large file plus some other minor features and bug so all these features make notepad better at doing things that people actually want to use notepad for rather than cluttering the UI with junk and unnecessary features which is a good and rare kind of update these days next up Samsung's fifth-generation v-nand has entered mass production starting with the 256 gigabyte TLC die the new chips are 96 layers up from 64 and the height of each layer has been reduced to 20% they're making use of the toggle ddr4 2.0 interface to reach data transfer speeds of 1.4 gigabits per second a 40% increase over the 64 layer of ena and a speed of 800 megabits per second operating voltage has been lowered to 1.2 volts from 1.8 and samsung claims of course that energy consumption is therefore comparable to that of a 64 layer chip right latency is down to 500 microseconds and read latency is down to 50 expect to see the 256 gigabit die and mobile devices and SSDs soon TM but don't tell anyone in Germany about that because it's not allowed any more hardware sales would last in here as rock and their phantom gaming rx 580 will be shipping with free be 350 motherboards so as Rock new to the GPU market if you're not aware and their phantom gaming series is a month is actually their first steps to try and make an AI B version of a card and they are shipping it with a freebie 350 board also by agile rock for a $300 total there's actually not a bad deal now whether or not the board is any good kind of depends because they keep changing the steel so it might be different by the time this video is live but they're changing everyday 300 bucks is it's really not too bad considering a 5 80s tough to get for MSRP anyway and then also GT x 1080 founder's editions and 1080 TI fe as have been cheaper lately EVGA SB stock site has had a few listed though it is be stock so it's probably refurbished but they've been 400 to 600 bucks which we haven't seen in a very long time so that's good hopefully it keeps going that way of course there are rumors of new GPUs we don't know when they are going to be or what specifically is launching at this time so if you're buying it's basically a matter you need something anyway and you can't wait which is fine because we don't know exactly what's coming out or if it'll even be available at launch stock has always been questionable over the past year and a half now so we'll see we'll see how that goes that's it for this news roundup I am going to be in Canada for Linus's LTX his Expo should be a lot of fun by the time this video goes up it might be happening already it's on Saturday July 14th I think so we've got a bunch of ask jams we film to film to 8086 K videos filmed there's six videos in one day we just did and we'll be back to in the lab testing shortly I'll probably film something 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