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HW News: Vega Over-Hype, Mining Cards, SSD & RAM Prices

2017-06-27
everyone welcome back to another hardware news recap for the past week we have a few interesting items this week including more news on the DRAM and NAND shortage as it continues to roll through 2018 it looks like news on new binding specific cards from the board partners of AMD at least maybe more time later and then some discussion about updates to Blender updates for power supplies memory x $2.99 stuff and maybe a bit of discussion on Vega hype as it stands right now before getting to that this coverage is brought to you by ifixit.com and their pro tech tool kit which is a 64-bit toolkit that contains an anti-static strap and all the tools required to disassemble most PC hardware as we've shown you can go to ifixit.com slash gamers Nexus and use code gamers Nexus at checkout for five dollars off the first topic is just on Vega hype in general so in the past week there's been some more news some actual new coverage coming out about Vega or specifically the Vega at the eversion and that has had attached to it a lot of hype from the community a lot of this will beat the Titan XP this will be the 1080i this will do all these things but just a reminder wait just wait for reviews wait till people can actually test it hyping things up is only going to do one thing and that is lead to disappointment so we would recommend just tone it down a little bit on the hype and wait for proper coverage because there are some pieces out there PC world just posted one for example that have had some level of hands-on with Vega frontier Edition but the thing is these are pre-release tests much like CES is a pre-release test in a sanctioned controlled environment and all the vendors do this it's not just AMD but they all do it and there's a reason that at our outlet we don't report on numbers when we don't have an ability to actually test and collect them properly for example at CES when the vendors show their new GPU CPU or whatever it is with two side-by-side a game running and they lock the FPS the vsync on indicate that they both perform the same that's not really a valid test all it does is show that they both can achieve 60fps so we don't report on those types of things other than to say maybe that they did it but certainly not as like a look this card is better than X because it's it's not a controlled environment that we tested so that's our approach to that kind of stuff now that said the tests that have been shown lately have some promise it's okay for them to be promising it's okay to be excited about new hardware but with regard to hype just always keep in mind that pre-release tests are controlled not by the independent reporters so that means that they are going to have a they're certainly not going to show you a situation where the card is underperforming so that's not to say Vega will underperform is to say that keep everything within the eye of reality it will get to the reviews it's an expensive card you probably don't want to invest in something like that without seeing them anyway and besides Vega FP is not really a gaming GPU as AMD themselves have said at least once or twice now so rx Vega we do have our eye on and we'll probably be testing it whenever it comes out so we'll have coverage for you eventually but just that was just something I wanted to say about the Vega hype before there's a giant disappointment because people build themselves up to believing it would be better than 4 Way SLI whatever at all kinds of tasks so next topic is mining cards it's still a GPU topic this is on sapphires front so they've got mining Edition video cards now coming out to address some of the mining cryptocurrency mining craze now these mining devices are coming out for a few reasons one of them there's an interesting discussion right now it's we had about whether or not GPUs selling out is actually a net positive for the manufacturers for AMD and NVIDIA on one front they're selling out of the cards so how could they be mad at that on the other front though this is a situation where one person buys 10 cards so you end up with one person with 10 cards not gaming versus 10 gamers who become long-term customers and who hopefully in the eyes of the company build a relationship with that company become brand loyal to this loyalists or start investing in other parts of the ecosystem like gee and free sink and whatever other add-ons those companies may offer may be redeeming game codes and building MDF with publishers for example so there's two different ways to look at that that's not what we're talking about here though the mining cards are being made by the AIB partners directly sapphire seems to be one of the first they're AI be mining cards are basically headless GPUs for the most part and headless with a video card means that it doesn't have any display out so some of them have one DVI out but a lot of them that we looked at and I'm sure we'll have images of them did not have any display outs that means that they are useless as a gaming device which is pretty interesting and should only be used for non gaming tasks where you're doing GPU crunch workloads on it and you don't need display out so then why would someone buy these types of cards and the main thing here is that they are meant for mining but the interesting aspect is they lose a lot of the resale value that these miners are building their purchases on because you can't turn around later and sell it to a gamer who's building a PC if it has no display out on it the only instance where that would be feasible as if the people are trying to do crossfire or something where they already have a primary card with display out and then a secondary doesn't need the display but that seems like a pretty limited use case so kill some of the value for the miners who are basing their purchases on some level of breakeven plus profit after you sell the card later but I guess the target is probably more of the the more enterprising people rather than the casual home users so that's out the RX 560 versions 170 bucks pretty expensive RX for 70 mining in addition $300 also very expensive very expensive I think that's approaching 1070 territory before the whole mining grade so not the best deal but they're not meant for gaming they're meant for theoretically making some form of money back at some point in the future but that's the mining update blender also had an update and this was for a July update coming out with a new denoiser built in and then they also have some open CL optimization and other GPU optimizations blender users have a lot to be excited for right now version 2.7 9 is the one expected in July and 2.80 is coming out after that which will feature a new real-time renderer called Eevee this is very potentially useful for the type of people who don't want to wait around rendering pngs forever 2.80 will also have better cloth simulation and physics simulations like plasticity and then a 2.79 more immediately as I new denoiser that uses scene information so that be textures and model geometry that are built into the scene it gathers info from those and then will remove noise during the render process hopefully without losing any actual quality as for OpenCL optimizations this is also pretty interesting that he is basically ensure that the GPU is kept at a hundred percent load under all scenarios so tile size should be less relevant or irrelevant now for OpenGL rendering because the GPU will always be utilized at 100% which means that you don't need to worry too much about optimizing tile sizes it also means that render times improve up to 50 percent in the worst case 8x8 tile size scenarios blender also has new shaders like the principled shader which helps calculate the correct for now for the roughness of a material this comes alongside a metalness workflow which helps determine whether an object is dielectric non dielectric with more accuracy also some clarification on X to 99 socket compatibility cryo rig specifically came out to say that any of their coolers supported on lgh 2011 version 3 are also supported on 2066 and this is true for all of them so the mounting mechanism mounting spacing for the holes all of it is the same on LG a 20 66 X 299 as it was on X 99 so you had coolers I worked for one they will work for both so that was a clarification put out by cry rig it's true for everyone if you were looking into by next to 99 and pairing it with a cooler that you already had Silverstone is also expanding its power supply line for the Strider series largely looking into new titanium certified power supplies this includes PS use in eleven hundred watt 1300 watts and 1500 watt capacity is part of the s t-series so SP 1,100 - ti-ti meaning titanium certification ST meaning Strider series and all of the new models are 80 plus titanium they are all fully modular they all have a 135 millimeter fan and they also all offer a semi passive operation where the fan will spin down when load is low on the power supply standard projections come with them five-year warranty we don't know the price just yet but it'll probably be high because they're high wattage power supplies kilowatt plus and they are 80 plus titanium on the memory front g.skill is rolling out new ddr4 kits with higher capacities and tighter timings aimed at Intel's new x-series chipsets and the x2 99 shifts at motherboards all of the kits will be available under the Trident Z Triton's er DV or Trident II black series of product lines we have at least one of those kits in now pricing and availability are TBA but for the speeds there should be that thirty six hundred mega Hertz with CL 16 or 17 and a 1.25 voltage up to capacities of at sixteen gigabyte sticks there will also be speeds of 37 33 megahertz at CL 1730 800 megahertz CL 18 or 19 4000 megahertz CL 18 and 40 200 megahertz CL 19 at one point four volts and that's available on 8x8 gigabyte tits asus is adding a new added network card for gaming support increased bandwidth and a better leveraging nvme SSDs across networks which has been a challenge up until recently the XG c 102 c supports 10 gigabit ethernet as well as the latest 2.5 and five gigabit ethernet standards further the card supports I Triple E 802 1p priority queuing and quality of service or QoS technology which allows users to prioritize game packets over other network traffic and it's somewhat competing with the likes of killer ACS new Nick uses the action client controller and thus requires four PCIe lanes 10 Gigabit Ethernet if you're wondering delivers around a thousand megabits per second of it network throughput so it's quite a bit of a jump over 1 Gigabit Ethernet and helps resolve the 100 megabyte per second wall that we face with one gigabit and bad news for DRM and and the supply shortages we've been covering this for a while now and the goalpost keeps moving for when it's supposed to be better so from new reports that we saw last week one of the main ones coming from Reuters it looks like the DRAM and Nan shortage will continue through 2017 as originally supposed to start getting a little bit better than second half but now it looks like that data is moving towards 2018 part of that is because of the major phone launch cycle coming up particularly with the iPhone 8 and Apple as potentially insignificant as a single product launch seems in the face of an entire industry making devices that use DRAM and NAND Apple does command about 18% of the total supply and just in general so when they push a phone it's a big deal to the point where some of the device makers who use DRAM and then had to start buying supply months in advance to make sure they don't run out now when the iPhone 8 is really starting to ramp production or finalize production so because of that because of Internet of Things devices because of new NAND processing technology is being researched and RD Labs it looks like 2018 is when Ram prices will start to fall again so as we said in the past I'm sorry if you're a new builder bad timing the RAM prices are high right now and will remain I it looks like for the foreseeable future and finally gigabyte has I knew or is 1080p I I need to get the same right water force WB extreme edition video card and that is going to be an open-loop ready card so it's got the block pre installed water block that is and it will connect with the fusion RGB suite that gigabyte uses so it will synchronize with their motherboards which now have digital RGB LEDs that shifts with a core clock of 1607 megahertz 1721 megahertz of booze and the gddr5 acts vram is o'clock to 11 gigahertz oh it's got a bit of an OC on it as well but not much of one no pricing yet release date TBD this looks like it'll probably one of the last 1080i is launching anyway because the generation is getting a bit old at this point even though the card just came out a few months ago so that's it for this time as always that links in the description below 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