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today's reasons it was highly requested after we reviewed the 2600 K and Phenom 2x6 CPUs and focuses on an even older architecture yet Intel's Nehalem line initially shown at IDF 2007 and launched in November of 2008 this was originally bought before we did Hardware reviews even and lived in a personal system for several years by seven nine thirty model that we have released in first quarter of 2010 for 294 dollars which was one year prior to the launch of the Intel Sandy Bridge architecture today we're revisiting the i7 930 versus modern CPUs at Phenom 2's FX and Sandy Bridge parts the last of which is arguably one of Intel's best architectures that they've ever shipped to consumer market and just barely followed in a halo before getting to those that this coverage is brought to you by EVGA and their 1080p is c2 which we've recommended fairly highly for its build quality and the icx sensors which are kind of fun to play with you can check our full sc2 review for the 1080i if you're curious to learn more or you can click the link in the description below to find the product page for the 1080i sc2 Nehalem was a big deal for Intel it was the appearance of the i5 and i7 lines and one we have particularly is the i7 930 is ad stepping chip so it came a bit later and have some more overclocking Headroom than the preceding chips in that line but just after the i7 930 shift about one year is when Sandy Bridge showed up and Sandy Bridge performed so well that if you were an i7 930 buyer you might have felt some buyer's remorse just a short while later this was back when the gains receive you architectures were much greater than they are today perhaps the one difference being rise in versus effect because AMD had what five years in between those of course they saw much greater gains than Intel does today so this was a different time in terms of CPU growth in performance and made the releases a lot more exciting and that's why we're revisiting the 930 it's probably not as widespread as Sandy Bridge but was still one of the more popular chips perhaps just after the q6 hundred that was a common upgrade path q sixty-six hundred thousand nine thirty and is actually the one that I took way back then aside from introducing the core i5 and i7 series branding the Nehalem chip that we're looking at also along with its counterparts in this architecture introduced the four core eight thread approach with hyper threading for the consumer market this was not the first time that hyper threading appeared but was its reintroduction after what was a pretty rocky launch period for the Pentium 4 as a type of threading back when those launch Pentium 4s had a whole lot of issues so this was another attempt at it and it worked out a lot better the i3 s came a bit later than the hey ylim but the I sevens were on an X with the a platform so they were some of the earlier x-series chips before we started doing weird things with X 299 like we are today from a historical perspective the gaming TV is on most our charts today we'll be competing with the $294 I 7 930 including the two $95 phenom 2 X 6 1090 T and the $200 1055 T which launched later that year just following the i7 930 the $216 at launch i-5 2500 K is also present as is the $317 at launch i7 2670 later and that provides some context for how the 930 was holding up in 2010 but when comparing these cpus it's important to keep in mind that the Nehalem architecture had already existed for quite some time now for a modern perspective from a quick search on ebay there are multiple listings for i7 930 s at or under $40 compared to the overly optimistic prices of 140 ish dollars for 2600 k's well we did purchase ours recently for about 80 luckily there are even $65 10:55 T's that gives us perspective our revisits are typically approached from a should I keep it perspective rather than should I buy it but the i7 930 is selling cheap enough less than a G 45 60 even that is worth putting an interesting spin on these results of course the i/o and the platform are aging so that is a concern but ultimately this is an architecture that was introduced in 2007 launched in 2008 and had its final show in 2010 the eyes of a 9:30 our first test was a rough start to the 9:30 at stock settings the multi-threaded score for Cinebench was 474 dot seven points just below everything for the most part this includes the 1090 T that it competed with in 2010 it does however beat out the AI 373 50k but that hardly counts as the 70 250 K it should always be overclocked and never used for production anyway the not overclockable and more expensive G 45 60 and i3 6300 buy more expensively means that a modern Nehalem chip do lose out but again they are not designed for rendering however the 4 gigahertz overclock increased the score by 34% to 630 6.3 that new score isn't the highest on the chart but it is higher than its successor the stock i7 2670 performance continues to be among the lowest on the chart despite increased frequency but this matters more in gaming than here let's move next to blender blenders render time was reduced about the same 24.7% putting it right between the i-5 2600 case stock and OC scores other i5 si threes and the six core Phenom 2's do worse as does the stock 2600 K or modern CPUs with greater than four threads all easily outstripped the AG and i7 930 starting off with our game benchmarks with an older title more representative of the era Metro last light at 1080p post the Intel i7 930 stock CPU at 90 FPS average lows are at 63 1% and 59 0.1% sustained reasonably well thanks to the 8 threads on the CPU the 2010 i7 930 spicy views positioned just behind the 2014 FX 83-70 stock CPU for a comparison that everyone can relate to the i7 2600 at an average of 111 FPS posting a 22% lead over the 930 the 4.7 gigahertz overclocked 2600 K counterpart places at 130 FPS average or adjacent to an i7 4790k and r7 1700 OC this shows why Sandy Bridge was so good overclocking the i7 930 Nehalem CPU the 4 gigahertz gets it up to 113 FPS average with high frame time consistency in the lows and thanks to the EOC we're now outperforming the Hunter K and the r5 1500 Xbox CPUs ashes of the singularity might be somewhat of a different story as DirectX 12 doesn't necessarily play it nice with these older CPUs for the non escalation version of the game the i7 930 stock Seaview performs an average FPS of 20 with its overclocked variant at 27 this ties the stock i7 930 with the FX 80 to 70 once again and roughly with the i5 2500 k the i7 2670 6.5 FPS average providing it a 34% lead over the iso 930 stock CPU overclock in the 2200 K gets it to 33 FPS average which posts a lesson that lead over the overclocked 930 of 23% the closest Rison ship is the r5 1500 x which manages to maintain a 34% lead over the tired eyes of a 930 so that lead is largely taken away when both are overclocked if you care for Ash's escalation that there in the article below well ops talks to is one of the more heavily multi-threaded titles and will provide the next best look at how Intel's first consumer 8 thread CPU has aged the Intel i7 930 in the Halo mtvU operates just below 60 FPS average with lows at 44 and 36 this places it nearly exactly times in frame time and frame rate with the i-5 2500 K and allows the i7 930 to maintain a lead over the Phenom 2 X 6 pen 9 TT 4 gigahertz CPU by 27% that said Nehalem looks a bit rough when compared to the 2600 K released just one year later which operates a 74 FPS average for about a 25% speed increase overclocking the i7 932 4 gigahertz gets it up to the r5 1500 x OC levels of performance both at 4 gigahertz which really isn't so bad for a CPU made seven years ago for perspective on Intel's annual scaling the 77 hard K operates 92 percent faster than with stock i7 930 the 6700 K operates 88 percent faster the 4790k operates 70% faster and we skipped the 3000 3s and see the 2600 K operates 25% faster and that's stock for all those numbers moving to total war Warhammer as a serious CPU stressor the i7 930 operates a 9 SPS average with high settings placing it about 32% ahead of the 1090 T stock CPU with the 2500 K roughly tied to the 930 the FX 83-70 actually manages to outperform the stock i7 930 in this particular test operating a 104 FPS average for a 16 point 5 percent lead over the 930 the G 4560 notably also manages to outperform the i7 9:30 both of these hold the lead because though war or hammer is more clock dependent than core dependent as illustrated by the i7 930 s overclocked results when overclocked the 930 now runs a 119 FPS average permitting it to surpass the 2600 K stock CPU just to put these numbers into perspective the modern i7 70 to 100 K holds about a 60% lead over the overclocked at 9:30 though we are close to bumping into the GPU limit at that point anyway for Battlefield 1 the i7 930 runs an average FPS of 96 this place is it just ahead of the x6 1090 T 4 gigahertz OC CPU and just behind the FX 83-70 stock CPU the closest rise in CPU is the r5 1500 X at 126 fps for a lead of 32% over the stock 930 the 2600 K for reference is about tied with the overclocked 930 and about 22% ahead of the stock 930 this seems fairly consistent with other tests where the 2600 K generally maintains a lead of at least 20% stock to stock testing without the context of Sandy Bridge and its timing contact Nehalem would look a lot better it still looks pretty good though the CPU has held on reasonably in most tests when overclocked at ties with the i7 2622 25 percent gain in gaming and about a 30 to 35 inch percent gain and synthetics and you can find more of those in the article below so overall 40 gigahertz on it not bad that's about what people were pushing on air for the most part back then and that is coming up from a 2.8 gigahertz clock stock out of the box this was a later stepping CPU so it did happen to do a bit better than some of the earlier iterations in the production run but overall looking at it today if you own a Nehalem chip and you're not just watching this because it's cool to see how all the hardware performs if you own one the question to ask yourself is are you happy with its performance that's always the question there's a lot of time we get questions of should I upgrade it's hard to answer that there's always a reason you can find to upgrade but should you it depends on how you feel about the computer today is it doing what you want the answer is yes then keep using it it's fine if the answer is no it's holding you back in production tasks or in gaming you're not getting that PS you want then we've got all the numbers for you in this video so you can make the comparison to the 930 versus the newer stuff rise in this out so Rison certainly changes things up from the FX series if you've been out of the game for a while the r5 CPUs are a very good value versus something like an i5 and we'll give you more production mobility and then the i7 77 hard case still does quite well for a pure gaming build it's very gaming and purist you're targeting something like 120 144 FPS then the i7 7700 K is worth looking at X 299 is also out we have plenty of covers on that and thread rippers next so that should more or less catch anyone who's been out of the game for a while up to the current market and then give you some keywords to look for on the channel we've covered all that stuff but at this point other than thread Ripper which is TBD so as always thank you for watching you can go to patreon.com/scishow and ice list elves out directly or you can go to store that gamers nexus dot net to pick up a shirt like this one we have tribal ends as well and as always subscribe for more thanks for watching I'll see you all next time you