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LIVE: AMD R9 3900X Extreme Overclocking | 5GHz & Beyond w/ Liquid Nitrogen

2019-07-13
okay I think we should be live according to use here we should be live so let me give it a minute for the video to pop up and today we're gonna be doing Alan to overclocking with risin the 3900 ax hopefully let me know in chat if you can hear everything okay and if the videos playing back properly but yes today is an X OC stream for the 3900 X should be able to hit 5 gigahertz without any issue really I think and we're probably gonna leave memory alone for the most part and just focus on CPU there's some stuff I want to show so I'm really interesting non ex OC stuff we're gonna use Allen 2 as a tool to do some other thermal demonstrations and those will be in a separate video we have going up to but we can go through some of them today it's really interesting how it works we are 5 by 5 very cool so looks like everyone says it's all good to go and also someone says no mr. beard no Joe's not here for this one though he's been doing his own streams on bearded hardware lately for Rison as well so I think he's doing every Thursday or something 30 to 60 min delay on super chats is that video delay or just because you'll be busy I'll be very busy with managing the overclock this is standard for us we I'll do all the Super chats all of them through the stream up until towards the very end I'll say okay no more Super chats we got to close this out but we'll do all of them it's just you have to give us 30 to 60 minutes because there's so much going on that I can't I can't just look only at them otherwise there's no actual stream motherboard is going to be the x5 70 master and I think I think that should is that a new PS view for the bench it's actually one of our oldest power supplies that's good it's a it's like a 1200 watt I think 1200 watt NZXT Hale 9 DB 2 or something ok so it looks like chats loading up people are joining in and I've tweeted out the link I guess I think we're good to kind of just start talking through all this so one thing I want to do is demonstrate the thermal scaling versus frequency like I said we're gonna have a separate video on this but this is really important and it's not even xoc stuff we're gonna use Allen to to demonstrate it but I'm actually gonna keep it above zero at kind of like normal temperatures and even hot temperatures and demonstrate how the clock versus temperature scales rise in 3000 is a lot more like modern GPUs than it is like CPUs in the past to the extent that if you don't control your temperature and testing as a reviewer like your ambient temperature it can affect the scores in a pretty significant way so this is something we've been researching the last couple of days Patrick's been working on it we have a whole whole special video going up on that that's getting finalized tonight and then we'll have another one after that but yeah that'll be that'll be pretty pretty interesting stuff that we can show as a preview today I'm just gonna kind of wait for chat to load in a little bit more let me get the first couple Super chats before we get going WC current $2 so what cpu is this it is not the 79 80 XE a CPU that will remember you remembered for Hall time it is a 3900 X though and I've got Romans beast Allen teapot on it except if we kind of part the Joe's not here so I actually insulated it a lot Joe is a got a lot more experience than I do so he isn't as paranoid about getting parts wet but you can see here I've elegantly zip-tied one half of the ellentube pot down to the board is the best I could do but it's stable it's like fixed now and this side it's just like a an m4 through rod that I found and and then a couple just a nut on the top of it to fasten it to the Allen teapot so that's just because we didn't have the exact correct mounting plate for a m4 so zip ties hopefully will hold it for now we might have some paste issues as we get going but we'll see and yeah that's their Bowers biggest pot we can get a top-down shot of it later once it's got smellin too and it's pretty cool it's got a lot of surface area Chris tech tips $5 whoo the first Super chat I'm so I'm so sorry your second by a couple seconds watchin from the UK well thank you Chris tech tips for watching I'm sure you'll give Linus run for his money Zachary Blair $1 thank you and $1 again thank you Phoenix 1861 a $4.99 thank you and builds wide for all the Expo 570 content I'm running at 6600 koz 170 Triple A gaming should I upgrade to Matisse or wait for rise in 4000 series I don't know how long that way it's going to be we don't even really have any it for me well we do we do have a bit of information they had a road map for is m3 I don't remember when it was supposed to be but it's public though you could find out if you're on a 6600 K that's pretty good CPU already and if you overclock it you'll be good for a while but it is an i5 so if you feel like in some of your games there's some variability in the frame times like if you see it's not a rating more often than you'd like and you can diagnose it down to the CPU 3000 series is a good family of processors thus far so I certainly wouldn't feel bad about that upgrade I'm gonna read a two more and then get going melis Barbossa $20 thank you very much Jesus hair on steroids Benedict gee $5 still no 3900 ox in Germany probably for another week I didn't know that but I've heard that there's availability issues so oK we've got two thousand people in chat and or in Abby's dream anyway what is the Alan teapot it is the Dare Bauer beast so that is Romans he obviously has a YouTube channel as well you probably know who he is but he made that one he sent it to me a while ago and we're finally using it so I need to fill a couple of these and then we can get started this I'll give the quick walkthrough of this stuff again I guess I don't know how many of you can sound off in chat how many of you know there's bearded hardware can we stop chicken clock in well Joe unfortunately that never stops unless tin is around and then then all of the fun stops and it's very serious until he starts throwing Ellen to events so sound off in chat though if you've seen these streams before I want to I want to get an idea you just give me yes or no I want to get an idea for how much I need to explain on the the basics here which monitor is this I should have linked that in the description it's some a or some aureus monitor gigabyte we ran it as an ad for awhile 27 Q the ad 27 QD I think okay looks like a good amount of people I've seen these before all this a couple of knows in there it's about 30% now so I'll do some basic explanation but not too much what we've got is liquid nitrogen it's contained to my my left right now in that big cylinder that comes from a local supplier that's a 180 liter cylinder we've had most of it leak out unfortunately when it was on the truck come in here and that costs about a hundred and a little under $180 for one of those we've found that they preserve for if they're good if it's a good tank they preserve for maybe two months or so it might be a little bit more and and then you kind of have to you'll have very little left at that point this is a doer this is a thirty liter Dewar I use this transfer hose to move the liquid nitrogen from this tank which is there I think they're vacuum sealed I'm pretty sure is the correct terminology it's like a tank within a tank vacuum chamber I don't know but tank within a tank so that should hold longer than these you use transfer hose these are about four hundred dollars they're really expensive and that transfers into one of these these are also a couple hundred dollars if you buy new it's like five six hundred so that contains our Allen - it's got 30 liters in it for today that's got maybe I don't know 50 80 left something like that no gloves yeah we should talk about that too there's a couple things on because I know these questions are gonna come up throughout the stream safety with Allen T the only real thing you need to worry about is displacing I guess the oxygen in the local atmosphere with the Ellen to exhaust and nitrogen so the way as this is Joe's demonstration bearded hardware I think he's in chat or he was anyway you can find just do a youtube search for bearded hardware if you want to watch him later but Joe is demonstration that he showed me was can you light a torch yep there now and if you can light a torch there's enough oxygen in there what builds weight told me is if you start to feel dizzy leave the room because you kind of go from dizzy to dead if you replace all the oxygen but it is not a concern for us we're in a very big open space here and not only is it a big open space but we've got AC running constantly so ventilation is no issue for us but that's something that's important to know if you did want to do this other points so people asking our gloves the problem I have with gloves first of all if you do want to use gloves you use special gloves that are rated for this stuff because if you just use like any workman's gloves or something they won't resist the cold that can stick to your hands and so the concern with Alan to is soaking it's not contact so soaking would be like you pour it into your shoe and then you just stand there and a in a puddle of volunteer Ellen to mostly will evaporate immediately as you can see there so do I need to do that again your camera no so it mostly evaporates straight away if there's enough of it where it's like all kind of pooling together it'll like I mean like in here then it won't evaporate right away and you can have it soak into your sock or something and that'll hurt but if it's just contact there's no real I mean doesn't doesn't hurt so so that's the safety walkthrough as for why don't I use gloves they get in the way so they get in the way to the extent that it's more dangerous to use the gloves than not because if you're trying I mean think about like trying to handle these thermoses with the gloves it's not particularly dexterous to do so you're gonna be inaccurate and pouring and that's like this and you share more likely to spill on yourself with the gloves than without and if you spill on yourself just like glazing I guess it won't hurt so that's the explanation hopefully we can we can leave it there for the most part let's turn this thing on no Alan's you in there right now Leidenfrost effect yes that is if you want to look up why why that happens that's what you look up Leidenfrost effect mist so anyway that's there's your walk through okay so I'm booting this thing I think we're going straight into Windows right now yes all right cool and here it is hardware doing a super chat for two dollars let's go do we need to let's do a base run so bearded hardware says don't hurt yourself slacker all right what we're gonna do is actually a demonstration first so I am I'm not gonna start with the the overclock and I want to start with stock performance actually need to make sure BIOS is set up correctly for this so risin 3000 like I was saying before most of you joined in has some very interesting behaviors and that it's really thermal dependent this time the the cooler you use will greatly impact the performance of the chip this is something coming up in a video that's being finalized today so cooler performance matters a lot if you use the stock cooler even if it can support it you can almost certainly get more performance out of a better cooler and this is kind of like I said more related to the way GPUs perform these days where you get clock boosting based contingent upon things like thermal and we're just gonna do XMP for this at least for now actually this is a different kit of memory I haven't tested this one so it's all fine fine for now so the boosting contingent Devon thermals is something that we can demonstrate as stock performance where we're gonna go into the PBO menu and explicitly disable it okay it's off because the CPU is performing is behaving as stock right now the only thing we've changed is the memory and I'm not sure if that if those settings are gonna be stable I haven't tested this kid on here but I think that should be all we need for this demo so we've changed nothing basically except for making sure PBO is explicitly disabled let me get a couple super chats while this is booting so we had one from Jacob Morris $1.00 no message thank you the garland family two dollars you deserve this money thanks for your help and advice glad that it helps you and hopefully your you've got some kind of PC build project that we've assisted with recently little shmoop with $5 if I can sell my 2700 acts for 250 is the upgraded single threaded performance worth the $80 I'm assuming to have 3,700 X 80 box is pretty good so I'm I'm gonna go with yes green James $2.00 how do you overclock your hair with we've done those ads with the EVGA CLC 280 I think what temperature are we add on here how we're pretty good right now okay pot temperature 29 I think memory might not be stable the way I said it so we'll just be back in oh I did I pulled the Joe unplug the SSD so that we can boot into BIOS faster which also means that it won't boot into Windows because there's no SSD all right Addison will excite dollars would you ever consider building a phase change cooler would make a cool video series consider yes know how to no got bearded hardware is Joshua Bell five dollars do you think Gen 4 will attack high-end IGP workloads I don't know don't think so okay cool it's booting me and Eric the Red $1 thank you Oh bearded hardware again Ellen to slacker do I have to buy a 3900 x2 hashtag ripp GN I mean if you want to go you just come up here and we'll do it through a stream that would be kind of cool do like set Jo up on that table or something and do like verses that might be kind of interesting jo will have to sandbag it okay I'm just gonna use our 15 here because it's fast and we might use our 20 later so what we're gonna do is the frequency demonstration I was talking about there's one question I explicitly wanted to answer and we'll get all of them but where is it Allie Robertson $2.00 299 is the 3800 X embargoed isn't it best for single core it is not embargoed but it's not out we can't get it can't even buy it okay so here's the demo where's our temperature temperature on the CPU is currently 46 to 55 apparently we don't have any Allen to in there right now and what I'm going to do I want everyone to pay attention to the the scores and the frequency we're at versus the temperature let's pop that out separately there's our frequencies and and Rudy need me to angle this more towards the camera that's good okay I move this out of the way okay I'm gonna we we might hit a thermal issue okay so we have no Allen to in here right now let's get a baseline for just our 15 temperature is currently about 70 that's just the Allen teapot soaking right now no no Ellen to as I said very clear about that and I'm gonna take notes on these results while we go so at roughly 71 degrees Celsius all stock PBO explicitly disabled as it's not stock we got 31 74 points okay so keep that number in mind let's run it a few more times and heat up to around 80 let's see if we can run this at maybe 80 85 and we need to pay attention to frequency to so we're roughly forty seventy-five megahertz here and I'll you'll see the point I'm getting to as we go through it 40 50 to 40 100 depending on which threads getting it and I need to take a note of that so we were at roughly 40 50 to 40 100 let's call it 40 75 and then this is just more of a tech demo I guess to really show behavior so what I want to do is intentionally heat the CPU up and keep this running as we go so we're gonna get it we're at 75 ish let's keep running it a few more times and we should eventually hit the 80 number that I want to demonstrate this on guess we'll just keep this over here and not click anything there we go we're about 80 now so let me run one more time now that we're 80 so now we're still on 40 50 range but we're closer to 40 50 at this point then 40 75 and 40 100 so now we're we're more or less locked at 40 50 on all the cores we're even dropping to 40 25 in some instances that was at 78 degrees so the point I'm making is that and also our score is now 31 40 from 31 74 originally so the point being made is that thermal will impact the frequency and thus the scores and so now this is without Alan - that is correct we are going to we're going to demonstrate what a boost do with Alan - next so now what I'm going to do is do a controlled decrease in temperature we're not going to go full pot right away we're not gonna go like minus 100 what I'm going to do is is probably just bring it down to maybe 50 or so and we're fine I was gonna change the update frequency by request but it's fine for what we're doing so I'm going to just try and I'm not gonna go too hard for this we only want to come down to maybe 50 let's call it 60 maybe because I did a 70 run and an 80 run so we're currently we're a little too hot still we're basically where we were before let's bring it down some more so this is a practical demonstration I want everyone to be clear on that even though I'm using Alan - I'm using it as a tool to control the temperature for purposes of a practical frequency versus thermal demonstration like you would encounter with a sort of a stock cooler versus maybe a good liquid cooler so we're currently around 50 it's still coming down but it's also not doing any work look right now just give it a second to soak I'll do Super chats and stuff in a moment like I said if you if you buy anything from the store during the stream to like the new Jeon toolkit you go to store like Aaron's taxes dotnet and I'll try and shout out the orders if you pick one up on the store during the stream okay so we're at 3 when were idle let's see what that gives us pay attention to frequency now you can see a very big jump we're at 40 150 ish plus or minus 25 either side and that's at about 60 degrees 63 6 so it's call it's let's call it 59 to 63 because it does change throughout the test and that gave us about 40 150 so you can start to see how this is I'm not doing anything all I'm doing is making it colder and it's not even that cold it's it's a temperature you could reasonably achieve with like a 280 mm meter liquid cooler so that increased our score from 31 74 to 30 205 and so the point I'm beginning to make is that temperature matters a lot especially if you're a reviewer in our case controlling ambient if you test one day at 80 degrees Fahrenheit room temperature let's call it like 21 C next they may be attached to twenty five or six C that can impact the results and make the data in comparable because Rison is getting the most out of its clock at this point it's it's like GPU boosting behavior where they're pushing it to try and get as much as possible based upon the the thermal the power of the current situation so we are at roughly let's see where we are loaded right 50 or so plus or minus two no it's going higher than that maybe fifty five forty two hundred though at roughly another five to seven degrees lower than we were last time so that's we've gotten another maybe twenty-five to fifty megahertz out of the clock by doing literally nothing except for colder so hopefully this is interesting I will I'll read some of the chat and see if anyone what people think if like does this demonstration make sense do you follow to be really clear a lot of new people have joined in so to be really clear what I've just done is we're using Allen to but I'm not sub-zero I'm above ambient temperature and we're just demonstrated with PBO off how precision boost to which is different from PBO behaves natively just by changing your cool solution like air cooler versus whatever so it looks like chat finds this pretty interesting cool good to hear what is PB o PB o is precision boost overdrive which is quickly to what motherboard gigabyte XY Sony master precision boost overdrive is different from precision boost precision abuse to technically is what X so far has been rolled into extended frequency range so precision boost to allows the CPU to boost two different clocks again contingent upon the the thermal scenario the current limits that are stock set by AMD by the CPU or you can override with motherboard limits but PBO is the where you start overwriting stuff so precision abused overdrive basically says in theory ignore these limitations and just boost as much as you can and well that we have a really detailed video on that coming out imminently so I'll leave that explanation there you can you can check out the video for a really full coverage of it Patrick's been working on it for a couple days now so okay that's the demo I wanted to do well let's bring it down some more though so our last score was thirty to forty six doing literally nothing and that was at about 55 degrees Celsius let's get another number so we'll do a scaling all the way down to below zero where are we where we're still too hot for this so we're at like 37 right now let me let that soak and cool for a moment what CP it's a 3900 X so what we're demonstrating is how frequency scales versus temperature without any manual overclocking Cooper ten dollars thank you thank you for the insightful content how would you split that CPU scores for to gaming VMS ie number of cores what setting one chip late' per VM improve FPS 20 atti for 157 art for the other I think in theory it would but I have not tried that so I'm not not really sure but I believe in theory that makes sense Adam Ballinger $2.00 well power consumption on the XY so many chips that get better from what I understand and he was telling us that the chipset power was supposed to be one number like 11 to 14 watts is what they gave us originally official number and then they the board partners told us that the chips had didn't do any down clock you know it burned that amount of power constantly but that later it should change so I don't know if that's going to turned out to be true or not but that's what we were told our WD turbo $2 your mom you are mom what why oh you apostrophe re mom bana are two dollars you Lala RTX ponytail off okay all right let's keep going with this demo so I need to pull it down some more oh that's actually plenty cool for this it's our pot temperature is minus 2.8 but we are still above zero because there's a big Delta because I don't have a great amount but so we're running out 36 now for this and let's see what that scale is we're 40 to 25 to 40 to 75 thirty to fifty seven points previously it was thirty to forty six points and that was at about 36 c-32 did I 75 57 is where I meant to say and that was that let's run it more time I think that was at 42 25 to 40 - yeah 40 to 50 right there 25 so basically 42:25 is what we're getting and originally to recap when we were at 71 degrees Celsius for the CPU temperature which is not unreasonable for you to run your own CPU at that was a 40 50 to 40 100 and now we're at 42 25 by getting down to 36 degrees you're gonna be more reasonable 55 or at 4200 so pretty cool stuff let's bring it down more again no actual overclocking yet we'll save that for later just a tech demo of how precision boost functions because we found this out kind of notice that yesterday and thought it was very interesting so let's run it at roughly 24 26 degrees Celsius work that's a bit warmer than that we need to go a bit colder still we're six degrees lower on average for this runs on the previous that was still a higher score but I didn't pay attention to the frequency numbers so let's let's get it to like maybe let's try and round it up maybe 26 for this one and keep going this is a multi-threaded we could do single though that's a good point okay so we're running this one let's call it 18 it's plus or minus 2 because the start and end temperatures are obviously different and we're at 40 to 50 to 4300 now it's 4300 quite a big jump and that was like 18 degrees forty to fifty to forty three hundred from eight I think this is pretty tallying of why you should get a good cooler for these chips because at impact it's like getting a good cooler for your GPU it's starting to really matter and that will impact the performance and benchmarks or in gaming a lot actually I mean we're looking at so so far let me recap the numbers for those of you who are who haven't been here since the beginning very quickly 71 degrees Celsius might we don't even need the Cinebench scores at this point 71 degrees Celsius the frequency was a bat was averaging 40 seventy-five megahertz 78 degrees Celsius the frequency was averaging about 40 50 megahertz rough numbers 59 to 63 degrees Celsius was averaging 41 50 so we're coming down now 55 degrees Celsius was getting close to forty two hundred thirty six degrees were 42 25 18 degrees were forty to fifty to forty three hundred so that's a range of about 250 megahertz top to bottom which is which is a lot I mean that's meaningful for for performance impact so this is all just precision booze to PBO is disabled so when I asked how long will that want to stay in here if I don't use it I'm not sure but at least a day for sure we do truck we empty that mouth though at the end of the session one to keep it preserve it in two it's just not really good to leave it exposed and an open container anyway so temperature monitoring is broken at this point we are below zero on the CPU our clocks are forty to seventy five to forty three hundred and our score is now thirty three oh three points which is not error so we're gonna call it below zero we can't actually see the temperature anymore it says one point three but it's bugged out 3303 and that was forty to seventy five to forty three hundred so that's probably going to be close to the end of our scaling but let's let's drive it down some more and see how low the the frequency will keep scaling need to fill up one of these pretty cool demo though with I mean it really this is all up until that last one was above ambient it really starts to drive home how much this stuff matters for rising three that was in series I'm gonna get to chat in a second I see you get amount of them why not put something on top of the pot if you mean like a fan it's because it would get in the way oh this what happened here huh I didn't notice it stop spinning but if you mean like a cover we don't we don't want to cover it weird I don't know what happened no whatever a fans not working I don't know if it's a motherboard bug or a fan issue let me try and get this I'm just running the fan to kind of get the exhaust here away from the rest of the components so we don't have too much stuff freezing over nope fans dead okay well let me pull that for a second so we'll do the some lower temperature test we're eventually going to hit a cold issue and blue screen but that won't be until probably like I don't know maybe until the reader says maybe minus 80 or 90 okay yes so let's see we our pot temperature is minus 64 let's go ahead and just run it like that 4300 across most of the core is constantly at this point I think we're probably at the end of the scaling here so minus zero still I guess I'll start writing pot temperature at this point and that score wow that is some scaling 3316 so we're still scaling you won't move this oh yeah sorry let's do another run no voltage settings chain there's no frequency settings changed just allowing the CPU to do what it wants to do all the limits are in place current limits are in place temperature limits are in place north of those are relevant so we're gonna we're at 4300 flat now that - 76 pot temperature so and that is we've stopped scaling and score for the most part - 4300 flat so I think I mean I think that's more or less the the demonstration for scaling on precision boost - let's just drive it down pot temperature maybe - 90 I think we're gonna blue screen here pretty soon because I've had issues with this system bugging out at - 90 pot temperature yeah so it's it's Otsuka I mean it's just straight 4300 the whole whole test and that's up from an original like 40 50 megahertz for the 78 degree result or 40 75 for the net result that I did first and we have stop scaling our where with an error and the score all right so there is your demo the next thing I need to do is actually overclocked this and that I personally thought that was the most interesting because it's it's a real demo up until the minus zero stuff it's a real demonstration as our blue screen real demonstration of how rise in 3000 scales frequency versus temperature and hopefully that that kind of helps you understand why you should actually invest in a good cooler for these because if you do run the stock cooler although it may be capable and although you might not be overclocking the end result will be affected especially in a bad case it kind of reinforces the the reviews of bad cases we've done recently alright so let me get some super chats and store stuff and then start the real overclocking couple orders like I said if you order during the stream I'll try and shout it out no guaranteed depending on how many super chat I have to juggle to you but I will try to do it Joshua in Washington picked up a GM logo shirt which is the one I'm wearing today thank you for picking that up we had an order from Wayne in Washington as well picked up a teardown toolkit and a medium mod mat thank you for that Washington is popular today representing Indiana Seth picked up a keychain logo and I get two more of these and then keep going Nathan in Florida grabbed the a tear down toolkit and then actually only got two more of e-street total James from Wisconsin grabbed the tear down toolkit as well and then Jacob from Pennsylvania grabs a tear down toolkit and the last time I'm gonna read is Joseph from Washington again Washington's busy today with store purchases picked up a tear down a mod bat and a toolkit thank you okay so chat what are the do you do you have 3800 acts note we're waiting until it's available publicly this is PBO only guys not any this is not PBO this was precision boost so again this this is why we need this this is why the video has to exist on working on PBO is not precision boost they are different precision boost overdrive is PBO precision boost to is part of the CPUs native behavior so it was not a scene that's that part of the comments correct but it's also not PBO we had PPO explicitly disabled so I want to be really clear on that this was not there was no overclocking here this was stock behavior okay so hopefully that that helps all right a couple super chats and we need to get into BIOS here I think Oh actually it's too cold so I'm gonna need to torch this but let's let it warm up a moment so you're not gonna be able to hear me when that torch is going crack on PC Hong Kong 25 thank you very much is this 28 course 5 gigahertz twist the secret chiller it's not and the chiller is not very secret either it's can you imagine if someone tried to do a demo on stage with this kind of like sitting there and they just never mentioned it and they led you to believe that was stock frequency he'll be a little obvious all right next bike $1 thank you that calling guy $1 and again $1 from that calling guy Robin Jorgensen two dollars thanks for all you do from Nebraska thank you or maybe it's Jorgensen if you're in Nebraska I'm flurry my dude a 50 I think Swedish kronor what's the Mac safe voltage for the 3900 X when I was he without Alan to the word around reddit is one point three to five but many youtubers went way beyond no idea I don't have enough data yet I spoke with some people some access years from AMD about this question I did write down the answer but I want to say they were typically running 1.4 for their air over clocks that doesn't mean it's safe as far as many youtubers went way beyond well I mean yeah because it gets the job done and we just need to run it through one round of tests but if you're using a 24/7 four years then P of it's safer on it we found that our 3900 X did a 4.3 overclock at one point three five volts was the the lowest we could go let me read a couple more these bearded Hardware 199 I want my $2.00 worth plug the SSD in well Joe if you wanted two dollars worth you should have given two dollars not 199 but but you can get your 199 s worth when I say graded Hardware has a YouTube channel and you should watch them sometime I'm gonna watch chat if this is like unbearably loud I guess headphone headphone warning its but if it's unbearably loud let me know I'll meet my mic so what I'm doing is torching the pot because the temperature this this board has issues booting when it is above sorry when it's below like 90 or so when it's low 80 degrees pot temperature I can't really get it to do so we just need to torch that warm it up so it'll turn back on okay - 56 we should be beautiful at this point all right can you test skin on a PPO on I'm not gonna do that it's a you'll see why in our video we're finalizing after this all right besides it's neat is there a point to Ellen to tests is it even possible to run an Alan to set up to three things one the point of this was pretty obvious we were able to demonstrate scallion from eighty degrees Celsius which is by the way above ambient that's a normal operating temperature down to negative something eighty or so so yes I would say that is a great use of volunteer as a utility a second question can you run an Ellen to set up sorta we did a game streaming or a gaming benchmark like all the way through the game test with Alan to on our kingpin card and did actual benchmarks with actual gaming with it now as a practical no but it was interesting no and then the third part of it you can watch our video with the overclockers on extreme overclockers respond to mean comments and that was the main when i asked them okay let me get a couple of the comments or the super chats Troy bolster or $1.00 I thank you vortex 1988 $5 any word on one a 3,800 x review will be coming out we need to be in possession of one first it's cycling right now it's trying to be should get there eventually so once once we can get one the review will be out actually mediocre overclocking $2.00 dami thick okay did hardware 199 I'm gonna go for it scrolled up I think that's telling tell I know Josh comment I'm gonna go for versus I'm gonna go at slack at the pool I'm gonna go for V's I don't know okay we have successfully booted so the reason it basically the issue I discovered with this setup yes yeah I don't know if it's a CPU thing or board thing or a specific CPU thing but it'll run fine and windows up to a point till about minus 86 to 90 pot temperature the pot time ellentube pot temperature is right here and that thermocouples going into the base of the L&T pot so when that says minus 90 ish it blue screens from Windows and then if it's below minus 60 or so I can't get into BIOS so we that's why I was torching the pot to heat it back up okay so let's let's just change some actual settings now now that we're done with the precision boost not overdrive demonstration all I'm doing is turning off the over current protections and that will allow us to set whatever frequency and voltage we want without running into a power limit let's just let's just start at let's get a baseline and it's do 1 point 4 volts and then let's set it to I don't know 43 not 743 43 we're just gonna leave memory set to XMP for this and we'll run Cinebench doesn't really matter I think that's all we need to do so we're gonna get a baseline score what is four point three do and this Cinebench test and then from there we can start tuning it a bit more yeah I should do an action we have stock numbers two from the previous tests all kinds of temperatures so I need to make a note 43 at one point for which this chip can do 43 at one point three five so we're a bit over but and then oh yeah Cinebench score and the temperature is gonna matter last at this point because we're manually overriding it and doing all core overclocking now so that should I need to plug the SSD in that should be bootable all right IRA science $2 thank you nestled with the knife still don't know how to say that it's Canadian five dollars thank you what memory kit would you suggest for the 3900 ax I'm looking at upgrading this year and I'm looking to get an idea I suppose it depends on awful lot on budget memory is a lot better than it was we haven't done scaling tests yet but we've done 3,200 and that seems to be a good middle ground of fairly affordable and also runs very well at low latency so I would feel fine with recommending 3,200 I guess 36 is it's getting more common now it's not as expensive as it used to be so if you feel like you can stretch for the money the scaling tech power of did Destin earlier on scallion for 32 to 36 and it wasn't a whole lot but if it's like a couple dollars different than whatever two sticks is gonna be easier to work with than four if you don't need super-high capacities where you can spread your pricing out of across four sticks that might be better but if you just need 32 or something you can do two sticks and or 16 even but G skills tried in Zeke it has been good for us Corsairs kids have been okay but the Tritons eke it tends to be a bit better of a on a latency front okay let me ask chat should we run arch one if you want our 20 or our 15 for this today what like I mean I know it's just Cinebench so it's not particularly useful but it's good for a benchmark so what does I don't want to see the even care for Cinebench why is it so slow booting it was slow bidding because I hadn't plugs the SSD in our 20 or our 15 waiting on chat to catch up okay our 15 our 20 our same person saying our 15 or a lot of our 15s are 15 our 15 okay I've heard enough our 15 to compare with the other results we had that sounds good to me so where are we we're at minus 40 pilot temperature that should be fine it'll be fast anyway I'll do a couple of 20 runs there's a good amount of people asking for 20 I'll do a few of them might not write them down as much 3377 that was at 4.3 all core and I guess home write this down 43 77 okay cool this should be pretty fun extreme for demonstrating the scaling which is the most useful part the most useful aspect of the Ellen - okay I wish well rise and master will work for us for now it kind of stops working at one point five five volts so we won't be able to use it later on but we can use it for now to get started one point five five I don't know if there's maybe chat can inform me if there's like some special unlocked version or whatever but no this is from my test yesterday so we were at we were at four point three for that one so let's just go ahead and type in 4,500 is there a faster way to do this - I'm not gonna have to type is there like mirror speed up oh nice okay perfect that's what I want so we're at 43 let's just go up to 45 now let's type in for the voltage just go ahead and type in all right one point for now let's just type in one point five and be done with it for a while anyway it's uh apply okay running this in the background will impact the score assuming it even runs assuming the system doesn't lock up I mean you said 43 so thank you 43 77 is what you set out yes yeah 33 77 was the score thank you for noting that yeah 33 77 not 43 77 standing pretty far away from the monitor thank you for pointing that out okay all right super chats actually mediocre overclocking a few dollars have the other $3 $5 donations kept rejecting Noah Richard $5 thanks for all the great reviews working on my first build right now that's awesome and I owe a lot of what I learned to you guys well that's cool to hear you're working on your first build it's a good time to start for sure stuffs pretty mature right now the architect or the process at least on Intel side the process is pretty mature on AMD side the architectures brand-new 35:22 that is a lot of scallion I don't remember what I typed it was it 45 X at 1.5 35:22 okay and that's with what did I type in here 45 okay 45 hundred megahertz kind of curious about actually about three mark physics as well so we'll run one of those and see what happens super chats Matthew way $1 Thank You major nero 199 thank you not gonna read your comment because i don't want you to be flagged me for some recent JRA infinite MX 20 thank you how long for the restock of 3900 X I have no idea I haven't heard anything about it and night raid oh that's that uh wait interesting is that brand new I've never seen that before cool oh it's not plugged it's not connected to the internet why why 3dmark ever since underwriter laboratories bought them I'm not gonna connect to the internet for this it's not worth it okay let's just do 46 and let's see if it's stable at 1.5 volts some people wanted an hour 20 run I'll do one of those two for you but well mostly that way you can compare to other people who've done our twenty so we saw some cool scaling earlier as a recap for those started this is old information for you but the original demo I did was before we did any over clocks at all and we saw scaling from at about 78 degrees Celsius we were this is all stock settings just precision Boost doing its thing we were at 40 50 megahertz and then at still reasonable ambient are still reasonable above ambient temperatures 55 degrees Celsius which he could achieve with a good cooler we were at 4200 megahertz pretty big difference there I think we're close to the knife's edge on where this is gonna be stable in terms of temperature so let's just run it 1.5 I don't know if it'll be enough but we'll find out so this is our 15 I'll do an our 20 run for those of you who want it and that it goes 30 608 so it did that was that did I apply those settings let's see Wow yes but then I changed something oh don't click on rise and master it'll crash 30 608 I think is what I said 4.6 at 1.5 okay did it crash yes and what else we need to oh that's right I said our 20 let's see if we can get rise and master to not trip over itself since that's having trouble booting I'm gonna launch hardware info and check what frequency we're actually running right now okay well the system has decided that that is not meant to be too cold this board or CPU or something doesn't like being cold it's let it get into BIOS and I'll do it properly might have to torch the pot again okay so someone said Neal Fraser $2.00 Cinebench inna higher than my 2950 x3 head Ripper frowny face it's an impressive chip JRA infinite oh I got you Zack gambrel when do you expect partner model 5700 series cards if it's gonna be a couple months I'm thinking of just hybrid modding the reference model August is what we understand and he has officially said that as well it's 247 I don't know if this let's do 1.5 - maybe I just run like that for now okay what's chat saying F for the crash no our 24 us yes the system did not want to allow it didn't want to allow chat to get what it wants dunsky what's better right now overclocking with rise master or bios I always prefer BIOS to answer that question Rison master appears to kind of work it does crash sometimes even when you're not doing this kind of overclocking so I don't know I still prefer BIOS if you're just trying to quickly guess and check stuff rise and master is a good way to do that and then what I would do is take those settings and boot into BIOS and apply them so that you don't need to run it anymore even if it writes the UEFI or whatever yeah I don't think we have to torch it so you're good here single core ok sure we will run single core for you I'm just reading the normal chat right now can you do a bunny hop and a fakie at 2 million Hertz I can barely even do a fakie our 20 is what we were going to run for people we're at 4.7 at maybe an unstable voltage pot the temp is at minus 65 it's doing all core I think this one takes longer to run so I might have to monitor it a bit more that's really not not really getting that warm okay and the official numbers up to 4.7 gigahertz I think it's 4.6 apparently they expect everyone to use Holland here well so a couple things 4.6 boost doesn't mean all core actually it's not a couple things it's it's just that that's the only thing I wanted to say hey 4.6 means one core and it's been that way for a long time so anyone who didn't know that might be new to the scene I guess which is fine but hopefully they know now 83 80 I don't know I don't run our 20 but I guess I'll write that down just in case and then those who wanted a uh how high can you Ollie I don't I don't sit spikes we're talking bikes yeah I don't do bunny hop in read the correct terminology eighty three eighty sir are twenty that was at four point seven one point five two and for those of you who wanted our twenty there you go let's run a single core while I'm talking for a while because some people wanted that too we're not gonna need much ellentube for that one okay eighty three eighty all right I 999 hundred K at five gigahertz is forty nine ninety seven at one point three thank you for the the quick comparison there so according to chat a ninety nine hundred K at five G is forty nine ninety seven points this is eighty three eighty this is a very threat bound workload when you're doing the multi threaded one someone got the clocks hired by disabling the second CCD that makes sense to me we'd say well the SMT and got them higher to see super chats toys are for boys 666 thank you let there be no evil in your overclocking gogo five gigahertz we're have four point seven now so we should be good for that Daniel sterling two dollars see you at LTX I love the content thank you and I will see you there very soon I guess like two weeks now ionic one dollar Marta kiss forty to two dollars can you hug the Ellen to you thanks it's quite cold yes laughs yang cough two dollars small support for all the cool stuff you do Thank You Brandon Green two dollars soldered ih asked question work any plans for they could metal it is soldered yes and no for this liquid metal wouldn't work very well liquid metal is it does not it scales negatively once you go below zero so it would actually worse to use it for this for ambient testing or use the Cree metal is a good solution for a lot of things but I don't necessarily recommend deleting the 3000 series processors you can run it cooler with liquid metal effectively always it's for a few reasons even when solder to the main one is you've got that black silicon adhesive layer if you look at the edge of the CPU you'll see just like a black glue and that is a silicone adhesive so if you remove that what you do when you deal it then you can run at a run the dyes closer to the IHS but look at metal on each side and the temperatures will be better but is it worth it well on the 9900 K the answer was no I haven't done that on this but I know Roman has okay Steve a prior $1 mr. blonde $2 pepper pepper you are Angus okay John beer club $10 thank you looking for at maybe building a first CAD workstation pods Emperor by the way is minus 61 I'm just kind of holding it there because it seems to be alive at that and we're at 4.7 gigahertz just running a single core right now first CAD workstation on rising 3 over Xeon end of year I usually run DCC what are my options or stay on Xeon I understand rise and works with the ECC but unofficial I honestly have no idea I haven't followed ECC related to Rison at all so unfortunately I don't have really an answer for you I can maybe speak to the performance and ignore the ECC part of the question I don't I guess you're saying you're gonna build either a rising 3 or Xeon budget-wise rising 3 if you just need threads for some kind of workstation workload it's a lot of threads for pretty cheap if you need a higher frequencies Zeon's not particularly high frequency though intel can can get you there but I don't know in the work station tasks AMD is doing pretty well like you're like dominating and a lot of them part of that is the thread count but then also can't really brush off the cache because and our GCC compile tests that's not really that thread or frequency intensive it's cache intensive which is why you see the 3600 and the 3900 acts pretty close to the same result it's because of all that cash so if your workload uses a lot of cash on the cpu or that may be a good benefit have 3 X 5 dollars what motherboard are you using why did you pick it I mean you think that X 5 so many master and chose it because this is only been working with the most since before launch so pretty familiar with it the vrm is more than enough for this we don't need any cooling on it there's no heatsink on it right now part of that's because and the cold is spreading like it sort of spreads from the socket but the part of its cuz the BRM is really good so that is that's why we're running it familiar with it and I know the VR I'm is good all right well those of you who asked for single thread at our 20 have really inflated the length of this stream I think we're not gonna run this too frequently it's gonna be a probably just this one and then maybe I'll do our 15 single thread after this cuz that's a bit less agonizing but we're more than a halfway there so we might as well add a finish sorry for those of you who didn't care about this and I want to see multi-threaded but we'll limit these just because of the time it takes to run them try let's a bunch of new people I've joined let me do the quick Alan to you like explanation and safety talk yeah and although this is going very fast now okay I'm it's slowing down we're hit and miss depending on the 3d objects on the scene so a lot of new people in the in the stream to go over it again and I'm sorry for repeating the information but the common questions are what does it cost for Alan to why don't you wear gloves and and then just like what's the dangerous aspect if any so what does it cost answer first that 180 litre tank is a little under $180 and that'll last us without any use just letting it sit there it'll if it's if it's kind of a not great tank which that one isn't it'll last us maybe two months before it fully leaks out and you don't have any left and otherwise we just try to use it as fast as we can it's chamber within a chamber its runs at like 22 psi or so is like I get a low psi tank and we're currently a little under halfway full this is a transfer hose we connect this into the Allen the Dewar I'm not gonna do that right now because it'll be loud and transfer hose like four hundred dollars to answer that question goes into the Dewar the doers also like six this was six hundred I think Dewar contains 30 liters and that's got maybe 50 to 80 left something like that and who the hell asked for a single core score well a lot of people sorry we're gonna let it finish that'll keep going we're close now there it's getting there it's really struggling on that couch but once it hits the walls it's good so then the questions about things like safety or even just how it behaves so Ellen to pretty much evaporates right away when it contacts something unless you pour it into a container where it's just contacting other Ellen to on all sides so there's yeah it's gone like that's pretty much it so evaporates right away this leads into the next demo that I've done already but if you get on your skin as long as it doesn't soak it doesn't hurt so that's called the Leidenfrost effect and it's just it hits your skin evaporates pretty much or slides off and doesn't hurt if you get it if it soaks like if it soaks your shirt your sock especially that'll hurt then it'll get stuck to your foot if you're soaking your sock and I'll - that's very bad so that's the the point where you would be concerned and then we need a bit more in here we're at minus 58 it's really not hot though I mean low power consumption for single thread workload go figure and then the question of ventilation it is displacing oxygen when you've got a bunch of it but we're in a big open space with ac running constantly so that is not a concern for us if you're like doing this in a tiny room you would definitely want fans in there to to ventilate the air well because if I mean it's like anything else if you don't have enough oxygen you die so but if you in a big room with AC no issue at least for us I think that pretty much explains the Helen to you so now we sit and wait what gloves thank you why no gloves let's do this one more time I'm only doing this one more time for this dream I did at the beginning but there's like 4,000 more people then at the beginning of the stream so we'll just do it one more time first thing if you use gloves at all with Allen - you would not use something like this like just a leather workers glove because that is not sufficiently protected so it would if you get enough on your hand on the glove Allen see that is same thing as with the sock it'll bond it to your skin and hurt a lot so it's the soaking that's the concern this stuff so this is a cryo glove it's what you would actually need to use I don't use them for one primary reason one well two primary reasons you just saw me pour it on my arm and it didn't hurt to is handling this stuff gets really difficult with these gloves because they're thick because they have to be and it's difficult to pour some be blessed accurate which is bad for the system's health and it's also harder to handle so I mean like getting your hand out of there is a is a little bit more dangerous here so my argument is it's more dangerous to use the gloves than not because of that dexterity issue anyway that's the explanation so hopefully that hope for that that should cover for now hi oh we have a score Wow I had forgotten we were doing anything thanks Chad 540 to hide points I don't do our 20 you can let me know what some I guess we have these not great numbers on the side 7700 K that is not a relevant comparison at all 476 so you can someone in chat go ahead and post some numbers but I'll just go ahead and write this down at before that was four point seven one point five two for what it's worth 549 single okay alright that's enough yes that's enough for this let's get a let's get a higher clock going we can maybe revisit single thread at the end once we have our final stable all core although you can push a single one higher anyway but we won't do that today I have a couple free super chats here you go from Danny B'nai banany thank you okay I need to do some super chats and store stuff like a set a few it's unplugged recipe I might have to torch the Helen teapot here no we should be good actually - 57 if you buy from the store during the stream I will try to shout it out no guarantee but I will try to get them stored on gamers Nexus dotnet for things like our new toolkit this is still booting I might have to torch that Allen teapot actually so the GPU teardown toolkits up there it's got 10 tools in it we use a CRV for these tools we use an a3 steel for the hex heads and that's because we have to custom grind them down to make sure they clear the capacitors on the back of PCBs so that was a that was our our design to grind them down like that and on the CRV for the others is as a higher strength steel and they come with some cards with basics on how to disassemble most of the modern GPUs and you get the cool tool kit to with the GN GPU teardown diagram on it so let's let's light this up a bit to get it to boot well that was the other thing I didn't do in the LNT demonstration Jackie and the oxygen in the room can you can you light a torch yes or no if you can then you're probably good ok sorry it's gonna be loud for a second so headphone warning turn them down for a second what I'm doing is torching the onto pot and that is to get the system bootable this the system again don't know if it's a board CPU or what doesn't like booting if it's too cold so that should get us there should be able to turn on our -38 at this point 3470 is that multi-core I can give you the multi-core loads we had a results in our 28 just 4.7 of 83-84 what that's worth and then scaling wise we were at when we did the above ambient demonstration when we were at 30 sorry when we had 78 degrees we had a score of 30 140 that was at 40 50 megahertz went to 70 131 74 points that was at 40 50 to 40 100 average 40 seventy-five megahertz came down to 55 degrees that put us at 32 46 points for our 15 which was 42 hundred megahertz or so so that should kind of recap everyone let's just push it up to 49 let's set that to 1.6 and just see if this boots and then after that see if it works - do you feel that what is the humidity 45% right now so we're actually in a pretty good environment for this yeah I guess that point the real like danger of Allen 2 is just damaging components so I've insulated everything the board has vaseline all over it I see the super chats look at those in a minute and that's to protect it from mostly from the condensation forming up here the cool thing about liquid nitrogen versus the chilled water we've done is that it freezes and so it's not really - not really too much of an issue until it starts to melt but you obviously still don't want your boards in contact with water one second to fill this and then we should be good to go it's a try 4.9 it's a booting or what it's trying to be cycling there it goes okay cool just started at 5.5 and work your way down that's not really how it works you don't just go like let me start at my best overclock and then figure out the lowest I can run how did you even why would you even do that r15 I guess let's see if it works four point nine one point six volts just do a multi-threaded so we don't torture everybody again let me get some super chats nope doesn't like it probably need to put onto in the pot it's at minus thirty but we do need to be colder so let's try that again without any changes and just cool it down the good news is it should boot without a cold this year all right so we stopped the messages at xes $10 is it true Navi does not support crossfire wondered how long it would be before you put 3900 X under Allen - good job thank you I'm not sure I asked AMD is crossfire supported when we did the tech day for Navi and the same product team that was heavily misinformed I found out later on a lot of other things also told me that crossfire support would be the same as it has been which was their way in my understanding of saying it'll work but we're not going to actively build for it so I would take that as yes but I've seen the stories on it not working so I don't know but these are the same team members who told me that power play tables wouldn't work anymore and then they did so I mean maker pick of that what you will I guess I'm gonna bring this down to minus 65 or so maybe let's try and do can we try and do like a top-down shot of the ellentube BOTS you think you can pull that off so it's pretty cool literally I guess but this is their Bauer's bu style onto pop that's the name of it and it it's got a lot of holes in there for wider surface area so the LNT soaks pretty fast which is great and that just means that with the wider surface area L&T comes into contact with more of the metal obviously so I can cool things down a lot more effectively and we're gonna try and get a close-up shot in a second give us a moment to move the camera around you know me to hold that so here's a we're gonna try a top down hopefully the HDMI feed doesn't fall out risky all right give us one second here you go so there's the Allen teapot that's Romans they're bauer beast that was a little much good for video though and that's that's how quickly it evaporates with no load and then you've got all the surface area drilled out in there so that's all I wanted to show I check the chat master by eros yes that is what we are using do or that is open thanks I'll get that you got it okay okay that's pretty good shot tank lid tank lid I got it thank you okay so did we even run yet no I'm gonna run this where I land you're setting the camera back up let's see if it survives it might need more voltage if not think we're at 1.6 yeah it needs more voltage and 4.9 so we'll bump it up to 1.65 million yeah definitely let's try one more time just in case we get lucky but I'm thinking that means more voltage is needed we can't use rise master for this because it stops at one point five five volts which is odd because at one point five five you're every bit as likely to kill the processor has that beyond that it's kind of a weird cutoff around that time 33 sorry thirty eight thirty to thirty eight thirty two is what we got that was four point nine let me write that down because we are keeping track here that's our fifteen four point nine at one point six I think and thirty eight thirty two so then for scaling we had stock let's do like for like stock at Sub Zero was forty three hundred megahertz that was a 33-19 score stock stock like at a reasonable temperature say sixty degrees 60 degrees was 3205 stock 43 X all core was 33 77 45 X with 35 22 it's pretty clean scallion 30 30 608 for 4.6 gigahertz and then 38:32 for 4.9 gigahertz and let's do an R 20 for those of you who want to compare to the more modern test that runs pretty quick since it's multi-core it's we're not gonna do single core again and fall for that trap super chats using PBO to OC instead of all core o seen now but earlier when you probably sent that message we're using precision boost which is explicitly different from pbl precision boost is not pbl high it's precision abuse is part of the CPUs native functionality I know I keep saying that but it's like a really wide spread it's it's an AMD problem it's not like the users fault it's AMD didn't do a good enough job they should have probably given them different names so yeah but to answer your question it wasn't PPO but it was precision abused yes it was just native processor performance two dollars recycled $10 nvidia waiting for big navvy to unveil a 28 ECI super I have no idea if they're even doing a 20 atti super we haven't heard anything about it Aly Robertson $2.99 how do they chill quantum computers 2.03 Kelvin I have absolutely no idea hahaha that is outside of my area of expertise 87 74 points for our 20 for those who care at 4.9 I know that liquid so I mean I can give some numbers I don't know what the answers your question is I'm sorry this stuff liquid nitrogen is about minus 196 degrees Celsius liquid helium I think is for Calvin chat can correct me if that's wrong I think it's for Cal quick Google tell us liquid helium temperature yeah for Calvin that so I don't know what they're doing for quantum computing Ivy Mike $5 so what you're saying is I should run an air tube okay see it to my AIO intake yes that's what we're trying to say here you should actually disconnect the dot you should block the ducts that go everywhere else in the house and run one line from the AC straight into your computer it would perform well Adam Ballinger your $2 so prism isn't enough be quiet cooler needed then yeah I mean a prism is like enough in so far as with the CPU it ships with it will run but if you want the higher frequencies we would recommend the better coolers I'm gonna do a couple more of these and we'll do some more actually you might as well just reboot and get that process started and I'll do some of these while we're going up to 5 which is the next number I'm trying trusty $2 youtube premium gave me a free super chat here thank you I forgot about this I forgot they you threw premium gives you those basher and Zee $5 New Zealand thank you what size radiator would you think suitable in a custom loop which included a Vegas 64 I think well I don't you haven't told me your CPU but let's just assume a relatively maybe like a 3900 ax900 K something like that relatively warm - hot I think you'll be fine with like a 360 or if you can't fit that maybe - 240 is something like that probably fine honestly with let's call it a 360 is kind of where I cut it off I guess a fine and ideal I guess for two different things - but 50x let's try it at one point six just I don't think this will work because we were already having issues but let's try it at one point six and see if it if it can complete the test and if not we'll go to one point six five or something Chad how are you using liquid nitrogen yes what else is in I'm just reading the normal chat right now what's your runescape mains levels someone says well back over a decade ago oh man oh it's probably more like I don't know like 2000 maybe played that I was really good at fishing and wood cutting that's what people care about right right we're having food issues so I need to warm this up so I can boot and then we will be able to do the test so headphone warning for you Chad says the hold 5 gigahertz yes yes behold a black stream and a torch inside of a frozen alan - 5 go hold 5 gigahertz I think we need more voltage but I really do want to I'm being optimistic here I think if we go up to one point six five to one point seven we'll be good when our mod mats off backorder the medium mount mod mats we have in stock and the large ones I think we've got a note on the store they're being made googling store does not get me to where I want to be they're being made I think we are looking at roughly arriving on September 6th is the is like the very long conservatively lawn estimate might be before then but it's the problem so the problem we ran into is with the tariff increase we had to find ways to save money without sacrificing anything and the best way to save money is to ship by boat instead of air it takes a lot longer but then we don't have to increase the prices which is good does that change from air to boat saves the difference that we more or less spend on the the increased tariffs yeah we definitely need to increase the voltage I think so let's get back into BIOS while that's getting back into BIOS a couple store orders I'll shout out if you pick up something from store documents access net like the GN toolkit or the mod map that we're working on today then I will try to shout it out man Joe's trick of unplugging bearded hardware's trick of unplugging the SSD is really good for this so we definitely need to increase this not doing anything with SOC you don't care about it okay and let's just turn X and P on and leave it alone and then 1.65 maybe 45.0 Jane from Indiana picked up a teardown crystal thank you for picking that up we have those 3d laser engraved crystals with the GN teardown logo it's got MOSFETs and stuff like that in it on store doc here is X Donna let Daniel from where what is this province none of it Canada cool picked up a couple of the blue beer glasses that we have on the store the cobalt blue with the gold rim okay 50 at 1.65 plugged in the SSD this time I read one more of these Jesse from New Zealand picked up a GPO artifacting sure that's a classic one that one is the one we made for well 20 series when it was already faxing a lot but it's on the store doesn't have the disappointment text on the back anymore it's just the Lok the artifacting logo all right what's chat saying how's normal chat doing should I actually buy Andi stock right now I have no idea and I have no comment on stock market the lid it's closed I think we need to be colder and we might need more voltage although I don't want to go to cold and I'm trouble getting into BIOS and I need to get on the BIOS raising the Infinity fabric voltage will help you bring the temps further down okay we're not doing any infinity fabric right now by the way for those who who were asking I did um to answer the question how fast have you gotten it I did just 1866 with basically stock settings before do anything else I thought the 3900 X was supposed to launch on the seventh no German retailer has them yet and on Andy's store they're out of stock and the idea what's going on now you need more voltage I guess it's a limited supply issue and then maybe Amy just favored other markets or something not really sure shwayne got the tri-blend classic GN shirt yesterday him love it well thank you for picking that up it's our oldest design the GN classic one so what I'm gonna do is increase the voltage a bit and see what happens we're so close to the the the rumored five Giga everyone remember when these CPUs were supposed to run at five gigahertz based on the rumors that we're very obviously not going to be true we're almost there it only took this JW Dickie send $5 it hurts to pay 80 plus USD for a screwdriver set but I love you guys it's 54 the normal one I guess maybe if you're shipping internationally or something shipping is is not an easy problem to solve as we've learned when you're a small company it's expensive you kind of forget how expensive it is when you get used to buying everything from Amazon where it's free all right so hopefully it will boot this time without needing to torch the container again Jeff Lavin oh and thank you by the way JW Dickey said we were picking up the toolkit I think you might have been the one asking for the the beanie as well which we do need to we have the design I haven't moved on it though Jeff 1100 $10 I can't thank you enough for all the work you do and expertise you share well thank you for watching we try to make it look like we have expertise but right now Systems not booting at the desired 5 gigahertz although I do know it will run there so just gonna warm it up so we can turn this thing on what was that Adam Savage quote am I missing an eyebrow all right did the ln2 till the chipset fan no it's running it's pretty loud too that's why Neil anyway so we're doing we did four point nine successfully let's give us a cold boot and we're trying to do 50 which I am pretty sure it can do someone says yes I work in logistics and Amazon has really skewed people's expectations on shipping cost that is for damn sure it's skewed mine a lot we started shipping the products in from from the factories and you're kind of like wow and that's the good price all right make a large mouse mat yes we do want to do that it's cycling and it's trying to boot we may end up in a BIOS if it's unhappy with these settings okay someone says I have dual moti ins as hi it's 1:45 a.m. in the UK please say hi hi if you talk while torching it makes the torching loads quieter I thought so that's good to hear though thank you I will make sure I do that there we go not sure what frequency we are right now Windows 10 is going to abuse as a whole but we'll get there eventually it's gonna do a thing where it says it's repairing it yeah okay last restart my pc or do we have a continue into Windows yes so hopefully that will boot at one point six eight or whatever I set Helen teapot temperature 38 - thirty-eight stupid chat last one was from where DK dual in Zalman 499 does the cpu wattage used go up or stay the same during boost with the only lower temperatures to voltages change great content as always Patrick did we did you look into that with PBO did you hear the question we don't think of a full answer here but the question was basically does the voltage change as the clocks go up without any manual chain he was specifically asking about temperature but did you see voltage change at all with those settings with ppl just leaving it alone right just turning PBO on and so changes with PBO and then as far as does the power consumption change with lower temperature as well you have less power leakage from lower temperatures so I'm not sure I'd have to measure it we could clamp it maybe but it definitely should be lower just from lower power leakage you get about 4 percent reduction in power leakage for every 10 degrees Celsius which would then be power that can go into the chip instead if it's hitting some kind of current limit miss precision boost let's give this a little colder so we're gonna try and do we're finally in Windows we're at 5.0 we're at 1 point 6 8 volts we're gonna finally try and hit that magic that fabled 5 gigahertz number I know Joe stefan's he's gone beyond this but he has been working on this a lot longer and he's also been on to overclocking since literally Norse mythology was invented because he is in fact Odin - 56 bring down some more I think I want this at like maybe - 65 or 70 don't want to push too far because then it all blue screen also pushing too far too fast will cause at the blue screen let's see if that'll do it - 73 we're doing our 15 I don't have high hopes but it does appear to be functioning so are we going to get our 5 gigahertz number one point six eight volts Lowell yes it is quite high I would not recommend ever running at that voltage for daily use so it worked does the does the score match the alleged frequency no he absolutely does not so we are actually I think BIOS must have reset then let's see that that is the score of us a stock run at minus 76 and so if we run this I'm thinking that BIOS might have reset itself yep so let's let's do that again everyone had such high hopes 5 gigahertz except actually for 4300 because of precision abuse - okay how is the voltage not fried the CPU I thought the review sample died with less we didn't have a review sample die but because it's really cold that's how it's I mean I certainly even if you ran out on to constantly I wouldn't run at this kind of this kind of voltage for a long year so this is a benchmarking voltage is what this is because it's it'll work but you'll definitely degrade the chip over time you start pushing high voltages and it's just not good for it but it's but it's fine for running benchmarks in a stream okay turning off all the overcurrent stuff we're gonna try this again so you could see the boots without any it's I mean it's booting into BIOS now so I'm hoping we're past the cold issue and at this point if it doesn't go then it's a voltage then maybe 1.5 hours and we have not seen a third to run yet there have been a lot more we've done 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 12 13 we've done 15 runs but we only did one of single-threaded 4.3 is the new 5 can someone explain the torch yes so I use this when it's having issues booting because it's too hot there it's sorry too cold I try to get it hotter I kissed I guess it feels hot if you touch it it's minus 90 it feels pretty hot so that is a system will run window is that like - 80 Allen teapot temperature but this is not gonna work we need to we need more voltage or something but it will not boot if it's at that same temperature so that is the reason for it makes it a bit faster let me do some super chats while this gets to 1 point 7 volts now howdy folks Gaming $5 after 30 minutes of gaming my be 350 west 7/8 3700 axe crashes and he guess why tried tinkering and bios but to no avail successfully gaming for 30 minutes and then crashing does sound like thermal to me that's that sounds like a thermal behavior so that would be the first thing I'd look at vrm it could be vrm thermals instead of cpu thermals so basically if the MOSFETs are running at whatever their their shut off time t.j.maxx you have the MOSFETs running at t.j.maxx the motherboard made just override and shutdown so that would be a likely possibility with the 350 board if it's not a good board and then the other possibility is the CPU having a thermal issue so those would be the places I'd look what you could do is put a fan blasting straight up the vrm just for long enough to to test that theory and if it boots or if it doesn't shut down after that point then you know it's a PRM thermal issue so you I just shove a fan on the top of the case and blast air in or something if it doesn't flick too much with your air cooling your CPU cooling setup I just hitting delete on this keyboard yep BIOS but that is not the right keyboard so we need to boot and then we need more voltage and then we need to hit 5 gigahertz the garland family in two dollars just bought the awesomeness Nexus shirt merch thank you sir Merc $10 with the soft power plate tables unlock Navi graphics buy Igor's lab which I'm a sizeable performance boost with very little power increased mmm are you thinking of testing that out well we've done power play table mods for every other Andy launch recently so you could you could assume so it's cycling right now so once it cycles enough to realize it's not working then it'll get into by us actually we could probably just hit the I guess I was gonna hit the clear CMOS what about the board are using I came in late from Kevin wise 109 thank you we are using the gigabyte x57 ers master and we are being limited elsewhere right now 1.70 you know I I forgot to raise the DRM voltage earlier which may have been some of the issue but we'll just run with it at 1.7 anyway even though it might have been a dear and voltage issue okay see you see if it boots at five how far back are we we're about one hour back on super chat so let me get caught up on these for a moment Gabriel Wayne $2.00 Thank You Seth Tainan five dollars says thanks Steve well thank you Seth you just have wrists two dollars well game is excess copper cops come back no current plans we have enough other stuff in the production pipeline that I I can't focus resources on it right now all-around good guy OH - $10 million a key rip J soon question mark showing support from Nunavut that's two of you today yes we I'm actually gonna be on a live stream with EVGA a charity stream with with Jay and kingpin will be there and we're gonna be doing some overclocking so that's on a Tuesday this week 20 hour livestream and I'm probably gonna be there with Jay for about six to ten of them we're not quite sure yet so that will be on EB Jays Channel for sure and then we're gonna try and stream it as well it's not happy we might need to check the pace contact or something I had it at five briefly yesterday but only enough to test it but 4.9 is what we've gotten so far and it's boot cycling let's try it lowering the memory frequency just to give some room for it to reduce variables we're dealing with CMOS where's clear CMOS okay really want the five gigahertz that rumor said we would get we were promised five gigahertz where's my five gigahertz has he got five yet no we got 4.9 it's not quite enough okay well let's trying the boot with a bench okay all right warm it up again you're good Patrick and we will I guess try this with a lower memory frequency just just to kind of make it a little easier I really just I want point one higher except asking so much all right so while I'm hoping this is gonna be it at the memory change once we get it into BIOS let's see Cordell Roberts $1 Thank You Cole $1.99 thank you will be worth getting a 3,800 October 3700 I kind of doubt it but we don't have one so I can't definitively say at this time I'm not I'm gonna run XMP right now let's just let's just like see if it boots at at a start one point six 850 and then see if that works no XMP no no nothing just frequency on the CPU what was that question I had 3800 X over 3700 X so like I said I think it's gonna be a scenario like the 2700 experts is the 2700 but I don't have it yet so I don't know we'll post a review as soon as we get it in and actually I should know for those of you watching the stream we're gonna post another CP review today as soon as the stream ends it's done it's uploaded it's ready to go so as soon as the stream is starting to end I'll I'll set it live and link it in chat for you so that's another CPU full review start to finish review for it well for the most part but 3800 X is not one we presently have boot failure detected because there's no SSD okay enter BIOS please don't change anything thank you okay a lot of 3800 ax questions at which I guess is just because no one's had one so I think maybe one or two reviewers have them but we don't have any local stores that carry hardware feet of hardware so we have to wait for the online retailers to get them in dr. Sam $0.99 thank you and again our next bike $1 Thank You Jerry infinite what cooler will you recommend with the 3900 acts in a case with reasonably good cooling which is actually important for these CPUs as we demonstrate out the first half of the stream and we'll recap in next few videos in a case with reasonably good cooling the crack in X 62 or similar 280 millimeter CLC's with fans more or less maxed out seems like it works pretty well so we didn't have issues with that one so I would say about a 280 with with decent fans in a reasonable case meaning one that's not like choked off in the front panel I'm gonna bring this down we're booted now finally at probably 5.0 depending on based on last time see is it actually 5.0 or is it lying to me it's 5.0 everybody look it's happening in the very least you can get to desktop and idle at 5 gigahertz we've done it we have achieved the fables 5 gigahertz clock so next it needs to actually do something now this is a 3900 X so it's gonna be a bit harder to do stuff on this one but what we say to the god 5.0 or not today HSS anyone know what power supply that is that is the NZXT Hale 9 TV - I doubt you can even get them anymore at a price that makes sense they're old but good okay well - 68 let's run it just instantly gonna shut down then shut down but it did crash so let's get temperature a bit lower that was a fast fast fail we did it chat says 5.1 next good air cooler for the 3900 X what's you cold too fast that's sex well we know we can do it now it's just a matter of not cold bugging the system good air cooler just got in as this five gigahertz without a Ln yes there's five gigahertz without liquid nitrogen there is no liquid nitrogen involved in this process none at all it is stock that's the question I think maybe a Noctua and HQ 14 or something like that would be good I just wasted that Hans gonna have to torch it but it wasn't worth it so we did hit 5 gigahertz and it was idle stable now we need to get it back into the BIOS and I don't think this is a voltage issue at this point I think it's a pot needs to be the right temperature cuz it was running it's just i cooled it down too fast too too low and then a cold bugged and so we're going to try and not do that this time we're currently at a we were at one point seven volts but we could go a bit higher if we end up needing it it's just cold bugs then you pour more well yeah I mean the like I was asking if we're using liquid nitrogen I wanted to show that we weren't all right this is actually just hot water for us and on the pot is it still hot water then I don't know how does it still become is it still considered hot water Joe ran his 3700 I accept full pot after CB resolved itself yeah we were talking about that he's actually beyond five nine thing cuz I like 5.2 on his 3700 X I need to get him up here though uh bearded hardware if you don't know who that is Daniel Anderson $10 is my favorite tech channel how far back a mile an hour still thank you love it two things one looking up an anoxia a deep silent 3 case for my 39 x build any familiarity with it no but let me look it up and to your celebrity look-alike is Jason Segal okay thank you no noxee a deep silence 3 I'm not familiar with it looks rather closed off in the front which concerns me so get a good cooler on there if you're doing like a rise in 3 CPU as we demonstrated earlier in the stream it does matter look at how fast that it evaporates super fast after the pots been torched so we're gonna try and not go too cold too fast this time I'm just gonna do it in baby steps John 10 $5 Thank You Josh $45 is it worth to get the x5 70 board right now instead of X 4 70 great question do you need PCIe gen 4 if your answer is why would I need that or no then get something else you can save money that way if your answer is I don't know maybe in the future then it's worth considering but if you want more detail on that builds I'd spent the first I think is just the first three minutes of our best motherboards for Rison 3000 video which just went up yesterday just you don't even need to watch the whole thing if you don't want just watch the first three minutes or so and he answers that piece yeah it should I get X 570 question pretty so his answer is more or less no unless you need the storage speed or something but good question Daniel Thorpe $2.00 heard anything about the new AP is was n 2 plus Nabi yes we are testing them right now but I don't know how they're doing so we'll find out hopefully in the next couple days trying to bring it down slowly that was pretty slow with you all right maybe one point seven two volts maybe that's what we need why the 30 to 60 minute delay do you see how much is going on I'm waiting for the thing to work and it's requiring a lot of like well a few things one is I try to interact with the normal chat - and not just paywall it so I want everyone to be able to participate in our streams obviously the volume of comments means it's impossible but I do my best to interact with all of the forms of engagement now we were only at one point six eight nice the other one is actually doing the tests and like set up focusing on it does take a bit of attention so I try to keep Oh further I try to keep it interesting because like if you're just watching any tune in and it's ten minutes of reading super chats that's that's kind of boring for people who aren't the ones who gave the money to get their question answered so try to keep all that in mind to answer the question you had let's see would the Sebastian would the courser vendôme 3000 be enough for a 37 or dex it would be enough yes I mean you could always do better but that's certainly fine you're not gonna be that limited by it Irish giant $5 new video idea extreme overclockers respond to me and my comments we did that now I see never mind side note what cpu are you using well played so I think the problem is when you make a change and then you reboot even though it's state it gets to bio so it's not a cold bugging I think if the SSD isn't plugged in there's an issue with post or something is my guess as to why we sometimes have issues when it doesn't quite make sense with booting that is what does this think the issue is as cycling so say DRAM DRAM but cycling okay well I hate this part because it's gonna feel like we're so close for a very long part of the stream with nothing happening with the first half of the stream having really cool information in the middle having pretty good information and then the last part of its always just like that final push of trying to try to get the goal we set out to but I think we will get there just a matter of getting everything to play nice together so that we can make our final push to stay below 5 gigahertz so this like I said before is just to heat it up so it'll turn on and hopefully that will do the trick okay that's straight into BIOS up the settings again plugs SSD and reboot corbin brook my first super chat Thank You Corbin Martin Delia $5 is there a possibility to damage the CPU if it's constantly run at near zero degrees planning to run a custom water loop with near freezing ambient temperatures geez no not really the issue you'll run into is your SSD lifespan if you're on a zero degrees you you're cutting it I don't remember the exact math on it I talked to Alan mal ventano about it previously but you're cutting that as a STIs lifespan significantly by going down to zero so SSDs like to be operated while flash the flash likes relatively warm temperatures but the controller should be kept a bit cooler so if the flash is too cold the memory then you will cut the lifespan on it so that's your only consideration but if the SSD is not under your loop then I guess it should be fine it'll just be whatever the case ambient temperature is I think it might it sounds like the chipset fans working properly this time it's what my boot looks promising I'm a flurry in my dude 20 Swedish kronor that here is their advantage to bio so Verizon Master yeah Verizon Master the voltage stops you can't change it once you get to one point five five so that is the that is the advantage okay let's try this one more time I'm leaving I'm not even enabling XMP anymore and we're not doing anything with memory 1.71 I guess and then all this stuff okay I think we need to spend some of the super chat money on food after this stream front seat racing 20 kronor thank you what's our pot temperature it is currently 33 - 33 so we'll leave it there and see if it will boot it is it is trying though I see it it's getting into the boot LEDs so it's trying to go and it has an SSD now so it might do it David rose $2.00 Thank You Adam yeah ten dollars in the daily and my in case of daily use or its extreme or God like man those are both so high-end for daily use it's this you don't need either a toast I don't know I think honestly it comes down to like do you want the animated screen like the jiff playback screen fight me if you don't like my pronunciation or do you want the note chipset fan like the extreme I think that's kind of like what it mostly comes down to at that point for daily use that's the season by the way so why don't use conformal coating to protect the motherboard because we're using Vaseline instead so there's Vaseline all over the socket area nice and on the backside of the board this is further than we've gotten in a while your PC ran in it's so sad it's like it was trying to say its last words and couldn't quite make it yeah so no conformal coating needed with the Vaseline I do have actually eraser on there too that deformable eraser uh hackneyed I got you Erik easterly I'm a machinist and quality engineer only reason I haven't picked up a tool kit or a mod mat is because I already have the same quality tools yeah there's a lot of a lot of tool options out there we obviously tailored the tool kit to use with things like video cards but I can respect that if you are a machinist you would have quite the collection of tools grr monkey $1 thank you derp of things 199 are you thinking about using TR 3/4 rip J I don't know that I mean I think we're gonna be stuck on the 3175 x for awhile for that that's a pretty it's the frequency that that matters for those tests we do it's gonna it's gonna go to that bio okay I thought I was gonna go to the bio screen okay all right so is it a cold issue there's a voltage issue we're at the we're at the patients part of trying to hit five gigahertz but as you recall all the rumors said five gigahertz Spock we're trying I know Joe has been there with the 3700 axis seems a bit harder with a 39 we haven't used that much Helen to you though this is really it doesn't run that hot even with these these high frequencies and voltages it's just not running that hot compared to some of the other stuff we've worked with okay well at least we're consistently getting to a blue screen that's better than the boot cycling by a lot okay try booting up -60 maybe it's been having trouble at minus 30 and minus 40 so bring it down it might be like the pace could have cracked or something by now - which would mean that our CPU could be running a lot hotter than the there could be a big Delta between the on to pot and the CPU what's the bet there we go okay boot temp is minus 60 everyone remember that the boot temperature is minus 60 that's what we need to know okay before everything goes wrong let's just accelerate it to go Enron okay we're gonna stay at minus 68 for this your paste is Donsky I probably I hate this error Joe is running into that too okay all right well I don't know I don't know 1.8 volts yeah 1.8 is what they am the internal extreme overclockers were running at to do 5.2 on a 3900 X so it is a possibility that that's what we need not doing anything with memory just trying to make sure it's not the problem okay good temperature minus 60 is what we want which is where we are nice okay super chats well that's going well hoping we make it MKT and the official numbers up to four point oh I guess Helen earlier I have front seat race in $20 Thank You max rainy five guys after your crazy schedule the past two weeks I hope you have fun pushing the hardware to the absolute limit PS the time on the computer is wrong that is very likely it is pretty fun to work on although we're at the stage where it's getting annoying because we're so close to what we want here and I just wanted to work and he said it just works like Jensen says Benjamin Hughes do you know how their new rise in ships mainly the 3900 X Ron and the ACE she's asked for seventy boards I have the crosshair seven here oh they do run we've run them in that board I don't know I haven't looked at how well they run I haven't looked at like the voltage it tries to assign or anything sir parsable 777 is there any reason to use the AMD overclocking settings and horas master UEFI standard controls seem to work standard they aim the overclocking settings yeah some of those do actually overlap with standard no is my is my answer to that question standard settings work just fine there's a few other options in there but as far as the ones that overlap with the standard options I don't think so I don't even know like where let's make sure that CPU is not running above ambient that would be that would define the problem if so this should read out a bugged number or no temperature at all and it is no temperature at all which means we should be below and we should be below zero okay kind of want it to be a little colder for this but I don't want it to crash so I'm gonna say I'm gonna say minus 70 or so which is about where we are right now okay on it before it dies minus 70 Cinebench is gonna throw that error and then we're gonna hit okay and try again so with the employ I'm just excited it's in Windows right now our 15 - 71 please almost there I'm gonna go to minus 75 now just kind of step it until it got further step it up until it cold bugs did more that time at minus 75 we have the Cinebench issue man let's try minus 78 maybe I don't know if it's even if it's a softer issue at this point okay there we go seems to be about minus 80 where it gets unhappy so I don't know I might have to call it pretty soon if it's not gonna I can try to out push the voltage a little higher I guess and then we're gonna have actually have to call it let me let me go over some of the scores in a moment have you unlocked anything else everything else on the motherboard we've unlocked the settings that are relevant here I haven't done any other overclocking though okay let's try that so I said boot temperature minus 60 it seemed to be a bit better this time though let's try might be too cold for booting but we can get it warmed up if we have to blaming it on software is a both idea again with circumstances what do you mean what's have more Mille about this Devils war gameplay by the ice wanna upgrade my 77 okay doing the visual basic Java Python unity playing games I own 200 PC games little streaming should I get 300 extra 900k for that list I'm Mike from the 3900 acts Brandon Smith just got parts like two hours ago for a new risin 5 builds success first boot nice up creating 4770 thanks for all the benchmark you guys Rock well that's good to hear you have a successful boot no need to rub it in that's awesome that I got the r5 in Daniel sterling 3900 axe MSI x4 somebody gave me plus would I be able to OC Oh some success clear master 244 : yes you would be able to overclock with some success for sure let's warm it up a bit and then see if we can get it to go with the new higher both it is higher voltages that I put I think put 1.75 which is getting about to where we are gonna have to stop how's the there's not too much water in there which is good so yeah just gonna keep trying this until until either we have to give up because it's clear no progress will be made or until it works a 5.0 and then we'll stop there it's if we were stuck at like four point seven or something it'd be a different story and I just call it but stuck at four point nine when I'm on five is too close to want to give up okay duder ninety-nine times thank you 48 486 DX 33 megahertz hey Steve just got the 3600 because of your review a nice upgrade for my 1,600 X what do you mean from your 16 aren't you running at 486 that's a big upgrade from the 33 megahertz 486 TX Kyler stall it's $5 hey Steve I've seen you out on the trails a couple times you should do a gen cycling jersey yes I would like to do that if we had enough people who would want to buy one but I think the minimum order quantity is probably gonna be like a 100 plus units on those so I don't know that we'll sell that many pantheists $2 you don't have to read the stupid questions from super chat I just proved you wrong brunch at her $4.99 what brand of shampoo do you use do you use conditioner q of the great work we answered this ages ago it's a throne paste typically cryo not works really well we're at a higher voltage now right so I guess it's a different today is a new day than the last boot I'm thinking the paste might be done ski to you so let's do we don't want - a teapot temp here that was where we we're dying like instantly once we hit that just bring it - I don't know - 72 75 for pretty close to the edge here 69 70 oh that's it is it gonna do it I feel like I should look away okay all right now this is the score of Halliday said it's at 4.3 right now they reset itself man that's so exciting so disappointing DX - yeah boy someone says hey let's push the voltage up some more should I call I wonder if Joe would answer right now if Joe's a watching the stream where if he's still slacking at the pool like you said let's see is he gonna answer hey I'm on stream right now so don't say anything that'll embarrass you so what did what kind of voltages work did you end up running for like the five plus hardware ladies and I like - a teapot temperature left everything stock I'm just trying to do the frequency the there's BDD one eight there's VDP yeah I'm having I'm having a okay yeah give it a shot we're kind of at the end of how much I want to try here so because it's been a long strong we're very close to five gigahertz but I'll try all those things yeah yeah we'll do that next do that after my next game I have a 12 core what come up here in bench and we'll we'll do a stream stream together with very quick we get to systems running or something that'd be fun yeah cool sounds good well thank you Joe Joe this is a just upon Zeon bearded hardware everyone all right see ya so Joe is the the mast he's been working with my stuff for a couple days now I think about a week maybe so let's did it just I don't know okay I got everything except for me core let's wow really let's try his settings just copy copy half of Joe okay I did not know that so infinity fabric has a I did I just hit V Gore got it thanks guys that's funny so I didn't know that infinity fabric has the the cold issue but that's pretty cool definitely check out bearded hardware on YouTube he has joined us for a few of these now and uh obviously no it has more experience with this than I do at this point so hopefully his suggestions work he said he was having issues booting below minus 15 which also corresponds with what we've seen for us it's minus 60 though but that's yes we're good to go on V Gore okay good let's see Keep Calm and raise V chord yes that is that is what builds right says alright so next questions where did I stop Leviathan prim do you think we'll see newer updated threader for CPUs before the end of this year I don't know I know they're coming out I don't know when let's try it it's cycling I need to might need to warm it up again like Joe is saying minus 15 is where he was so HCP is gonna be a bit different Kyle need $2 what's CPU I can't read is 3900 X Thomas tonically changing RAM from 3000 to 3600 results and how much of a difference would it make wouldn't it make with a 3900 X I haven't tested that tack power up has it good in their initial review they have a good memory scaling look that would answer that question so let's get it down rather it's got it up to like -20 and then once rat around there we can see if CFS panel boot with Joe's recommended settings and hopefully it was all the Infinity fabric he was saying if it's too high then you have issues running it at the the cold temperatures okay it's probably gonna need to go into by us again because it just boot cycled since it was stuck at that uh at low temperature just heating it up get it to boot into BIOS apply the profile I just say so I'll be quick at least infinity fabric and memory are the big changes here ok now we're at minus sixteen so it's about as warm as I want it to be if this doesn't work and I think we're gonna be done but I would like to see it work there's a lot of water in there now actually which is not great I think that's water hmm come on stop trying to attempt boots so many times need an option to limit the boots I clean there we go okay BIOS reset no kidding CPU is at 8 degrees burning ok everything is still applied SSD is it gonna work or what I guess I'll leave it at that temperature for now API cars $1 Thank You Danny of an NAU and I sense a qvd 1 dot Imani Mar I love him and keep up the good work thank you we are trying to make the work good tonight but after the first half the stream we have been countered issues what CB is this by since see since site 3900 ax it's not liking it we might need to get Joe up here if he had cars again like you're pretty cruddy gamer Jesus at work Eddie car Niro 199 Michael brinly $2.00 where is snowflake our AMD correspondent probably sleep in although I did put a video of her on the GN steep side channel just enough like attacking inanimate objects was the OC and the 3900 extra view the OEM we never used the stock heatsink ever with reviews we always use a standardized heatsink it's an X 62 at max speeds which has demonstrating the first half of the stream where we saw scaling in frequency stock zero changes at all of up to 200 plus megahertz that's why we use one heatsink for it because otherwise it's not a not a like-for-like yeah so not like in those settings I guess will lower some of it and see if just the Infinity fabric change does what we need mmm Seth Tainan I saw a video description that says pod mats were not of quality I don't see that as being true well Paul's video was satire which I think should have been pretty obvious but thank you for saying that you don't see those being true he does not either it was a satire video Big Al 2 is 68th love the L&T content just wondering hardware in for a harder monitor or cam definitely not cam as my recommendation hardware monitor is not great hardware and faux is my favorite it works very well ok well let's clear clear that and lower some stuff you can do this don't stop go go go okay just trying to read the normal chat - it takes a lot to fry this fish yes it certainly does yes the question someone's asking where where are we frequency let me do a recap of all that stuff you missed it so four point nine is where we were booting I might need to break the system down I think it's probably it might be getting a water logged or something four point nine is where we were we were successful let's go through Cinebench runs with the overclocks so stock like for like here so low temperatures for everything stock we were at nice 33:19 Cinebench score and then four point three all core 3377 four point five all core 3522 this r15 for when six all core thirty six oh eight four point nine thirty eight thirty two that's where it stopped being successful our twenty we ran at four point seven was eighty three eighty points and our twenty we ran four point seven at 5:49 single for frequency scaling i'm gonna give like three numbers here at 78 degrees celsius CPU temperature we were seeing a forty fifty megahertz frequency you dropped that to 55 we saw a forty two hundred megahertz 42:25 frequency you dropped that to 18 degrees Celsius on the cpu is forty to fifty to forty three hundred with Jeff's precision because not overdrive just precision boost to overdrive is a different thing so I was just the CPU doing what it wanted to do which was the really interesting part of the beginning that we looked at don't know I'm kind of out of ideas I think everything is what it should be infinity fabric should be turned down yeah okay okay well try booting again hmm there's a bunch of water running down the outside of the pot last time he torched it looked like it was soaking through the shop towels yeah it's possible there's a bunch of Vaseline and eraser on the board so hopefully it's fine but it is possible that it's uh that it's got issues with water at this point okay super chats Mitchell Morgan Thank You P ow one dollar yeah again one dollar Andrew marring the lid yes we got it thank you Ellie zn5 guys like you Billy Mizrahi $1.00 here now so with a knife I look forward to meeting you at LTX 2019 yes we will be there l easy and will there be a 38 hundred extra view yes I'm going to read a lot of these as fast as I can right now while this thing fails to do it and then what maybe I'll just reset it at like 49 and do one finishing score just so we have a number to finalize with let's do that freezing Tad's $2 3600 OSE or 3700 x4 gaming can you overclock the 3600 to the X Oh we're gonna publish a review right after this video ends will answer that question yes you can of course and the 30 if you're just gaming we think the 3600 is a very good option for that and if you're doing anything that would actually use the extra threads then 3,700 X might be good for you but it was just gaming we're liking the 3600 save a lot of money that way you can spend more on the video card instead Zack bowling $10 show us your cameraman who works for you you do behind the scenes of Linus but show us your behind the scenes what Oh but show us your behind the scenes we have behind the scenes videos and a on the patreon uploads if Andrew wants to come on camera he can but he doesn't want to but we do have we have somebody on the scenes videos up and we did the office moving vlog for awhile you could go watch that series and see everybody pickle click 1999 I've been drinking scotch so what the hell here's some money for your content hashtag captain overclock thank you and we just called Joe's or how fitting Casey a home for one dollar Kyle Engstrom what's the smallest processor that can be used to make process what's the smallest process like me just to make processors 5 nanometers question mark don't know I mean yeah I'm sure we'll get there but I have no idea here's what we're gonna do I'm not gonna pretend to know either we're gonna we're gonna go back to where it was working that's not where it was working I would be very sad stock settings and all I'm going to do is get like a final run in there everything's been cleared at this point so we're good there point four would get great timing leave the rest alone and I think we were at like I don't remember where we at one point six eight maybe I wrote it down actually I have it written down that I was hitting five point one point six five yesterday so it's probably a better mount which sucks but a four point nine at one point five volts is what I was doing so let's do one point five five and then these can all be left alone all right three five okay will this thing still work with settings that were previously successful if not then we know there's a problem with the system needing to be broken down if it's been running too long Patrick Wilson Hey Dude thanks for all your videos of the channel happy to finally catch one of your live streams from Down Under yes I don't know what time it is where you are right now but I'm assuming that's nearly the opposite time Jason Overmyer two dollars thank you for all your amazing rise in 3000 content there's much more coming out we're publishing another one after this stream ends which may be never at the current pace data keep it 10 - hush playing Sims 6 on my 3900 ex while watching what do you think about Andy discontinuing Radeon seven six months after its intro I think that you talk about buyer's remorse the super look at the Radeon 7 because the hundred XT is like matching it and gaming and and it's cheaper so its main benefit at this point is going to be the memory which we show is actually useful and some of those production applications we published a workstation benchmarks video I think it's I think the system is done let me try to answer these while I break the system down I guess and we'll just see if there's a bunch of water in the socket maybe but 4.9 is the answer for that I don't know if I feel like it we might rebuild it but I did we now we can't do that way it's the other work we do another video so let me torch this and start breaking that down and I'll answer some of the super chats we've got how many other to go through where where's that we ever get him out to go through okay that's not too bad it's achievable so idea bunch of super chats for a while the store purchases I'll shout one of those out right now Thomas from Washington there's a lot of Washington purchases today picked up the tear down toolkit as well thank you okay well let's get started on breaking it down and seeing if it's full of water so we can start with these question from Tiki 832 would love to see a video on how these CPUs handle very large long history dwarf fortress world generation I don't know how to test that that's a that's that's the first challenge is I wouldn't know where to begin with benchmarking with Dwarf Fortress but if someone wants like email me at go ahead I mean if it's relatively easy like install it and click go and I can try it Vitor says riah are you are you sure that isn't a sub honey I see quite sure seems to cold everything's frozen to it it is not a 39 ad XE next question mr. Lima Bean mom look this brick is running at 5 gigahertz yeah well as a brick it was running at 5 there's only have 4.9 successfully though any plans to do a vid about Radeon image sharpening and Radeon anti-lag features curious if it's just marketing vs we did start looking at Radeon image sharpening and it does actually do something whether or not it's worth it will depend an awful lot on how you perceive quality I guess Travis Mobley 99sec here reborn $10 will your memory scaling video go passport a megahertz up to maybe 4.5 or 5 all videos I watched don't go past 38 100 interesting to see if high memory will push 3900 X past Intel for gaming I'm not sure yet it depends on on on where it gets stuck so yeah that'll depend on how far we can get our memory kits we have here I know we have kids I can do 4,000 so we can probably do 4,000 I don't know if we have kids that will do much beyond 4,000 here's why I think by the way we're having some issues because I don't have a mount for this everyone should go tell their Barrow to send me a proper mount so what I did was zip tie it to the board on that side and then screw it into the board on this side but we're gonna see the I mean there's an awful lot of water on here we'll see if there's this probably water on the motherboard which would be the reason why we can't even boot at four point nine anymore which sucks because I had at 5.0 yesterday for one run and then I was like okay it works shutdown but I guess that means we can do another stream the pot does have a lot of water in it though actually which means it's not even cool and effectively so standard issues when you run for that lon see Zen camp zenovation Thank You Travis Mowgli Thank You Ronny Tuckerman five dollars like you Alex Yolo swagger two dollars advice for good airflow case to get with a Kraken next 72 age 500 mesh is good what else was good the second for the 360 the new Silverstone cases look pretty good this is gonna take a look this screw takes forever Kevin Davis Thank You Zack bowling $5.00 a squirrel is constantly trying to steal bird seed from feeders do you recommend I yeah and I update my 1920 X 29 50x now or wait for a news NT to TR I don't understand [Laughter] 2950 X if it's on a good sale I don't know how long until Zen to thread refer when will when will you be putting out a new coheed and cambria help them keep the good work thank you same time cool puts out a new album player won $10 asks did you see that level one text did you see that level one texts got the 3900 x-2 4.5 by disabling pblpblpblpbl is not stock it should be disabled by default precision boost might be the one you're thinking of PB o is not precision boost they're distinctly different things anyway the question by disabling precision boost I would assume because PBS should be off so they shouldn't have to disable that I don't know all the newfangled AMD technology the kids are using would this be something to look into further yes so a lot of people this is not the users fault like and these naming on this is really not good auto sees another one that is not a great name but yes the answer is yes is worth looking into further we actually have a video that's done I need to finish the back half of the script read after we're off stream here and then that'll be alive so you can watch it let's see let me publish that other video to you we've got that a 3600 X review I can set that live right now there's so much water in this thing I mean out of the classic and the CPU stuck to the cooler issue one sec I want to publish that okay so 3,600 extra fees going up I'm gonna keep reading the rest of these super chats for those of you who want to hear your super chat read I am going to get to it if you don't post any more I'm gonna cut it off here at 9:45 Eastern Time assuming that time is correct whatever the clock says on my computer basically there's a new video but I'm gonna keep reading super chats go ahead and open that and pause it or something if you want to see it that's the 3600 x review & versus the 3600 okay back to the questions did you dame fled Farrukh did you ever freeze it ruin your glorious hair no I do not freeze it our one live trade you my GTX 960 two gigabyte with coil watch for a 4 gigabyte V what is it what is that Radeon Omega maybe I don't know it's a fork KC ha for five guys they chanced the recent Intel 10th gen leaks hold water they are fake that is the truth we confirmed that it's gonna be in our next Newsbreak SAR fake I'm just trying to to break the pace right now next one then and by leaks I mean someone made that slide like not a dental Nathan already appreciate the content you should do a video with Ian Contras on the next event dude is abuse so David Cantor will totally understand yes ian is another very knowledgeable individual in the space so that is certainly in the in the realm of possibility if I know I've spoken with him at the events check out that water you ready there's a lot of the problem you get that much water is enough to cover the whole base of the lm-2 pot so we're having issues with even just conducting at this point it's been running too long rotting Toulon is the problem yeah well that's not an issue anymore I guess okay next question vortex what a custom loop be worth it Verizon 3000 or would it not make enough of a difference to clock over an AI oh hey I was gonna be close they're gonna be pretty similar here's by the way a bunch of water in the socket area anyway on the eraser so and there's water so I mean the motherboards alive and everything it's just that once this starts happening stuff acts funny and what we're gonna need to do is let it dry out probably overnight and then come back to this and just start at 5:00 for the next one we're gonna have two CPUs got water on it too so everything still works it's just that it's um it's waterlogged so we'll let it dry out and then do another one at 5:00 sometime start at 5 gigahertz and then hopefully that will work straightaway but we have found the source of the issue we were having we're stopped booting eventually let me get an another question before I do this what NZ one day thank you 10 Crusader 2 dollars you're the man they saw some videos thank you for watching and for supporting Kevin Davis $5 is how long did it take you to grow your hair out are you worried - Ellen to get into it no on number 2 and I don't remember about a while extension and nygma Steve greater than J thank you T I'll be on stream with J I'm Tuesday by the way BBJ is hosting us for a battle tank grantee thanks man Thank You Zachary Ramsey ten dollars or one dollar that gear and penalty air one $5.00 keep doing what you do by the way I love your mountain bike fit here's also thank you there's on the GN Steve Channel Corey Schroeder $10 signing anything this streamed now we were not I've got my poster and mouse mat that's awesome it's in for some more also 1.68 volts quote I reject your reality and substitute my own that's one of my favorite quotes from Savage yeah 1.68 was certainly getting there but obviously Joe is running even higher than that this stuff's pretty awesome by the way it's just contact cleaner blast out the socket to get that paste out of there will bow five dollars will you do it a case awards show and a CPU roundup this year yet cool around up yes you recommend any air coolers or cases budget off the top of your head the 270 yards probably really cheap now the case it's fine the are l06 is good the put is that one and are for no and our 600 from Coolermaster that's pretty affordable to as an airflow case while Don's what is the best x 570 board in the 360 to $400 price range build toy's got a video on exactly that on our channel you should check it out Tony $2.00 take my free money Thank You Douglas watch CPU is it was the 3900 ax it's still working but it needs to need to break at a mage or damage I guess if you take the space out I have to 1080 T is an SLI 208 for the next gen or upgrade now I'd wait those are pretty hard to beat also a second supergiant from that prison also love you guys kid with a great work thank you Anton 379 rubles I think best wishes from Russia what do you think of the threader for 3 processors is it possible to expect 64 cores I have no current expectations because that's the best way to be disappointed not sure but I can tell you that I've got a cameo in pro high tech which is the Russian YouTube channel that covers tech I have a cameo and they're coming up regarding shadow of the Tomb Raider pronunciation Logan Van Dusen $10 how long would you recommend waiting to purchase the new gen GPUs do you need a card now yes or now if it's no then just wait yen's did most 2:22 awesome stream still on the tour the 1600 309 gigahertz 1.55 volts that's pretty good hard to beat that I've got a lot more to read here but we're gonna go through all them fabian Reich stop using advanced meme devices well if memes are like being very competitive at the price then I guess that's what they are and your roof car does the 3800 xoc better than the 3700 X I would assume on average they're about the same all of these CDs are about the same might be bend a little better but doesn't matter at that point I don't know you're fighting over 50 megahertz maybe Patrick J nothing but love for your channel all the hard work you put in to make sure nerds are well informed thanks for the content well thank you for watching but didn't get X title says 5 gigahertz on beyond so you can't stop until you exceed 5 gigahertz well we did when we did the pre testing Joe might have to come up here for for a follow-up the SI boy $50 thank you at what temperature does Intel and AMD cold bug have you tested cryogenic grease grease paste as paste under Ellen - it shouldn't crack I have not actually interesting interesting option what temperature it was - 85 for this one and Intel's all over the place but it can be anywhere from minus 110 minus 160 dead joke 666 night I heard kr 3900 acts for gaming and streaming but with her fine simultaneously you'll get if you want to if you're ok streaming at a completely acceptable h.264 encoding rate of like faster or something 10 megabits maybe 6 megabits doesn't matter you can get a higher in-game FPS on ion RK and still sustain the stream if you want for some reason a different h.264 encoding quality then you go 3,900 X Michael Vernon $2 go go get that 5.1 nope agreement my dude I wonder will we get that fabled 7.7 gigahertz on the FX series processors you could do that creepy oh yeah hi Steve I'm fan of your content ever since keep up the amazing work greetings from Austria anyway what all core OC would you expect on an MSI be 350 gaming Pro with stock coin with modern with the new CPUs not super high with stock cooling I may be 3.9 on a platform like you know of one thousand three is 3.9 4.0 on the first gen maybe that it depends on how many cores you've got gets hot justin hasting do you know the power draw at these clocks at all no but we can check next time Jody $5 would you still recommend the throne paste patterns you did Verizon 2000s 3000 yeah it's just make sure the whole IHS is covered your kid Brennen flag $2 really regarding the time when I picked up the torch and said we use this because it's too hot so it's definitely too hot Astro definitely hot astral storm how far can you go with a solid with solid co2 like dry ice don't know you can get it to - if you ever see it where a doctor eye stops - like - 70ish or something plus or minus 10 degrees oh you - 80 South repay yeah we should have done that if we wanted it but it's a it's too waterlogged needs to dry off thoroughly if I had Joe here to go run it to the hand dryer in the bathroom we could do that his cane been a Ellen's he had Stefan Z carrying and fear at Computex as he ordered him around arms crossed with the stern look on his face they've known each other a long time they're friends that's just how they overclocked together bazinga axe snowflake would be at 6.00 by now probably true how many more do we have here I just want to make sure we get through these yes we are not too far nice all right I've got like two pages of scrolling left what causes the cold bug minor voltage to low I'm not sure I guess it's the overclockers who actually know what they're doing I've told me at various platform to platform I know you can change the boot up voltage should be different from the sustain voltage on some platforms and that helps but I think it's to do with the CPUs I'm not sure Jonathan Davis buy a pizza on me I am starving so we will do that Thank You Konza I'm an Aussie going to LTX will you bring merch can i order some and pick it up from you there I might bring a couple toolkits with me but we're not bringing I mean it's whatever we can fit in the checked bag but certainly you could you could buy something there if I have it it's probably gonna be toolkits I'm also given minuses team a lot of mod mats to use for their tables I think we're giving them a six plus whatever they already have and then I think we're gonna give those away once the show is over five dollars need to upgrade ln3 yes we do Adam Schumann senior in your expert opinion well hey 3900 X run okay and across hair six hero I'm actually not sure X 370 I'm a little fuzzy on across her seven hero no problem cross her six hero I am not positive how like how the BIOS behaves I'd be more of a BIOS concern for me Kyle Dunbar you look tired here's $10 towards a trip to comes red bikes in the legendary trails of east Kootenai is at British Columbia you can do it well I'll be up there in a Whistler after LTX Andre de les G $1 a DK dollars Tim Wolfe word $5 says applause for the 4.9 gigahertz that was a long time ago super ahsoka any plans to review the 3200 g34 energy yes I'll buy your favorite pizza that's my final offer the answer is yes we are reviewing them unbox me burn the score we're getting close to the end of these Hyundai itis Butler $5 what's the oldest board you have used for a build and overclocked I have an MSI at 955 X Platte and I've never been used the one I overclocked plan to Halen is where I really started doing that X 58 to say X 58 deluxe I think Josh Ricker some be 450 boards have PCIe for tough be 450 well if they're not using the newest of G's or Andy toggled it off or if they dug up the binary and figured out you could enable PCI you for on any of the boards whether it works well or not it's different but that's cool though J Daniel $5 hey-oh one note on that too you need to use rise in 3000 actually make use of it give us know if like some love for me I have a 3600 X 4.3 Alcor 1.45 volts is that good 1.45 is kind of high I would not use that long term definitely get that lower if you can like 1.4 below and maybe lower than that but 1.4 for sure co king kun $2 any news on the ACS impact or Strix ITX release no I have no idea when they're coming out Nick G 440 recommend watt power supply for 3900 accent overclocked to 1080 should be fine on like 600 650 650 maybe be safe Jared Melton $2.00 check your damn mount yes it was bad Matthew McCullough no message Tiki 8:32 just bought a 37 X upgrade my 2700 X which is four point one five I think the 40 TVP drop will help push the 3700 X more oh yeah you'll probably be able to go higher just because the CP is a bit easier to work with - are you going to test games the priority at one ccac's 1300 X maybe we have a lot of other stuff in the pipe we could we do have I want to do Alan to gaming at 4.9 I guess or 5.0 if we can get it the dang stone memory V quarters at Otto we've got that chaos 7 3 what's the F o'clock limit you've hit hoping for 2000 we stopped at 1866 when we played around with it but haven't done more phobia is it worth upgrading that 59 30 K it is n 2 that's getting lawn of the tooth so probably my all it depends it depends on what you're doing but you have to look into production versus gaming stuff Michael March can I run out a 2080 Seahawk with 2600 CP or should I upgrade ye you should be fine 2080 TIR definite gonna bottleneck 2080 you'll be close to it but serpent access F glad to see you and your team got rest finally not yet we're almost there one more page left Nick Mosley planning to do a full 300 X build what Ram speed and bran do you think is best is it worth waiting for that come in G g.skill neo kits I have one coming out I don't know but the g.skill tried and see we've had good luck with the 32 hundred megahertz seems like a good like affordable middle ground 36 hundreds fine but I like the Trident II kits I'm sure there's other stuff but we haven't gotten the NiO and yet Patrick Wilson Thank You Patrick Wilson I quote I have to be matter of fact the mat is not flat that's all there is to say about that quote from Paul maybe Jake Rosenthal $5 greetings from Washington State currently waiting for my 39 Ardex yeah that'll be a nice system when you get it in since I can you get Linus to T pose at LTX we might be able to trick Linus into doing that Mitch Peterson most cost-effective CPU for handbrake transcoding 37 Ardex question mark probably once you start getting too many threads you need to split it into two processes so that would keep it the easiest ransie Tamblyn $5 love you buddy Thank You Allie Robertson campaign contribution Tech Jesus for president no the first counter campaign ad will be can't even get it to 5 gigahertz even though it was working yesterday but close enough 4.2 hind robot tech TV do you think 136 we have like eight more of these I think the 3600 is enough for streaming on Twitch without framedrops only one pc no capture card if the game isn't too CPU intensive yes you can make it work maybe like very fast or something and then 6 megabits per second I think it's it's workable you can do some priority or affinity tuning if you need to Sean Newby please don't read this thank you ok thank you that was actually where I did cut it off there's only a couple more there so I'll go ahead and just hit those kavik any waterblock manufacturers making custom blocks for water verizon 3000 series off of senator heat source yes but I don't know when they're gonna be out EK i think is working on stuff martin deliora I want only Thank You Aaron Hass I appreciate your interaction with the viewers thank you well it went on a long time for these but I fell behind so sorry about that Neal Gorge Baker 56 price is really low is it a good option if it's really really low like below fifty seven hundred and I don't know like that yeah it's it's still a reasonably good option our Smith keels a great coverage thank you it's gonna be it thoughts on using thirty six hundred X on a lower actually seventy board should be fine as long as the BIOS is going to work with it and the VRM isn't terrible okay that's that's that's it that's that's how of it so thank you for watching thanks for hanging out while we did all this I don't think I'm gonna like we could try and mmm how wet is the board it's still frozen underneath I don't know I don't know if I want to rebuild this and try for five because I think it probably needs to be blown out completely so yeah now we're gonna stop tez pushing right now and it's this wet is a good way to kill the processor and nothing's dead right now so we're gonna stop there alright so yes we've read all the super chats that's gonna be it five is doable for sure it's just I'm gonna have to start at five next time for point 9s where we ended we got some really cool data on precision boost to scale beginning of the stream we will recap that for you in a separate video and we got to finish our other video that Patrick was working on now so thanks for watching and subscribe for more we'll be working on more rising content in the immediate future and then we're gonna have a brief break while we go to overclock vs Jay at EVGA headquarters so that'll be pretty fun too but I'm gonna call there so thank you for watching I will see you all next time
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