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you go yeah check testing ok well that's it thanks how's the little thing that was the whole video game created so much - applause okay so lioness you were on our Channel gamers Nexus channel at Computex right I think that's the first time you were ever in one of our videos yeah that was actually really fun yeah so we talked about products that needed improvement and annoying things and right when I said annoying things I Computex you came into the frame yelling at me so we got in the comments that I wanted to talk with you about as we had a few comments that were to the effect of please don't become Linus tech tips don't be like them because Linus is in your video don't get into bed with Linus tech tips is what they said so I wanted to talk about how can two channels like ours which do different types of content right but yet we know exist peacefully and in a friendly fashion so it because we do different types of content doesn't mean that actually we have to be enemies before that 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Barney please or J we would get the exact same statement from any of them and that's not because we all colluded to say the exact same thing it's just because that's the way it is we don't see each other as competitors the reason that I am NOT not just that it's not just okay but the reason that I'm thrilled to have someone like Steve and gamers next send some J's to sense please and Lewis here at an event like this is because to me they give LTX credibility it's it's not about it's not about you know oh they're a competitor someone might watch Steve's review of the you know maybe there would be a new graphics card coming at some point in the near future and maybe they watch his review of that instead of mine it's never like that we all complement each other really well in fact we've got a great mix Lewis doesn't crossover with any of us at all you know Randy repairs of Apple products Bartek Lee's has not done as much tech lately it's more lifestyle J's two cents is hardcore into the amazing mods water cooling the guy water cool is like I don't even know how to do Steve gets into the nitty-gritty details like nobody else does especially in the YouTube space except dear Bauer to be paired there Bauer gets into it except Roman Roman is crazy love rolling rolling and that's okay and what we do is totally different and so Steve and I can have professional respect for each other even though I would see your video and I go I'm not gonna make that video and you might see my video and go wow look at this amazing vacuum I've got we might have done something like that that by the way and I don't think anyone knows this yet but the agency that handled that ad emailed me and said that they won they learned a lot from that campaign that's good and too they liked our video so I think you so it is possible to actually like respectfully in that instance criticize a company and still get along with them right and everyone actually learns and grows as a community and nothing's personal that's the other thing too is that Steve's video was very obvious it wasn't exactly a failed critique of what we were doing it was pretty in your face and that's fine because that Steve's voice and I totally respect that and in much the same way you have to come up with something you respect about me quickly well so the thing I was talking - earlier is - is channel line effective - this my guess is the team's channel really but it really is Linus's group puts out stuff that we see as kind of like the anchor store in like a shopping center or something like we hope that you guys are bringing in newcomers to the tax space and that those people will eventually come over and find us there are other people in the space as well so there's a lot of value in bringing new people into the industry to keep the industry growing because it benefits all of us which is something that you guys do exceptionally well I think were you pretty blown away by how many teeth Linus tech tips Expo we're intimately familiar with you and your work this it was pretty surprising to be honest like I don't know I wasn't expecting anyone here to really know who I was and he's like who knows who Steve is let's hear some noise thank you preciate it so uh Linus I guess another topic here something that I think it's kind of interesting that people don't talk about a lot is vendor or manufacturer and media relations yeah cuz there's a lot of misconceptions about that like how do we work with all the companies without being chills chills as what any comments would say right because they give us they give us free stuff right they give us an obligation and in reality out of the the perks that we get aren't really that free I mean we're working for 20 hours or something to review the parts so it's like it's an investment it's not like we're going home and building computers with these things people ask me that all the time they're like oh how cool is it to get three video cards all the time and I'm kind of sitting right do any idea how much I pay my staff do any idea how much my rent cost do you have any idea how much all of this cause I would just go buy it if I really needed it like I went out and bought a Nintendo switch ten days ago because that's cheaper than working for it right much cheaper way cheaper yeah but on the relations side though how do you guys balance working with partners and companies versus editorial independence so I think what a lot of people miss in this industry is that we're not nameless and faceless corporations not even the nameless faceless corporations like Intel the industry is full of real people like you and me who have to have real inter to each other's faces and talk to each other and get along because it's all for the betterment of the technology industry as a whole it's all about bringing people into the fold people getting excited about technology people pursuing careers in technology I mean we wouldn't do this if we didn't care about that so there's an element of working with brands like an Intel or Nvidia or Razer whoever the case may be in order to make sure that we are all on the same page because sometimes we might criticize something without fully understanding the behind-the-scenes conversations or thinking that went on and once we hear them we go oh that makes a lot of sense so there was a phone manufacturer that I was talking to a little while ago that made a controversial decision regarding their display technology I said well why'd you guys do that and they said well the reality of it is if you want a high-end display right now that has good availability you're buying one with a not so it can you down the parts availability and way oh what a perfectly reasonable explanation for that you're not the ones to blame for this particular industry trend but unfortunately you're swept up along with it and at least you've got some workarounds for it that should work for the vast majority of users Wow what a valuable thing for me to know as someone who's trying to cover technology with that said sometimes we have disagreements you know we are not on particularly good terms with one of the actual sponsor slash attendees of last year's LTX that's why they're not here they're super bad and it was over it was over a title and thumbnail of another video and it comes down to individual people that either have good explanations or bad explanations or you have good relationships or bad relationships and then balancing back against the fact it's pure fact that the single most important asset that any media location has is the reader or the viewer because without that if we lose our credibility with you guys we have nothing so it's always a balancing act and sometimes those conversations are awkward like can you think of the conversation you've had then you've had to slam a product let's go several let's go at the HP 500 yes teach me I'm gonna pee take me under the hood of that one okay so H 500 pee in the Coolermaster case I don't know did anyone see any of those reviews okay so yeah there are instances where doing a critical review it depends on the company right you talked about this with Intel actually at copy text last year after you did the the walk in the rain yeah so there are companies that will really get what you're saying and it's okay and move past it and keep working with us no problem and then there are companies that you kind of stop getting their products and so coolermaster we had an issue where the review wasn't that liked when we were critical of the product I think the viewers liked it just fine viewers loved it and it was great for our channel and that's what you're saying where you appeal to the audience and you do hopefully what you think is right and then hopefully the rest of the success should follow but on that note the designs that coolermaster showed up afterwards yes so they've improved significantly I'm not gonna take credit for all that because here's the thing one of the things I want to say it how people asked about the h5n2 P today actually and the thing with that is I don't think we really said anything that the engineers didn't already know like I I am positive that engineers who worked on those cases knew every single thing we were talking about and it's just a matter of what does either what do the executives think what is marketing right what's popular so I can't imagine how frustrating that would be to be an engineer where you're like I told you guys like I told you this was going to be a problem see I've worked back-alley deals with the like the more technical people or the engineering people or the technical marketing people where I kind of go look I have to I have to say all these bad things defend yourself please and they go you know what I'm not even gonna because I want my engineering team and I want my executive team to hear this and because the reality of it is there's some people who are just working a mick job and that's that's fine good for them but the tech industry in particular is made up of passionate people who really want to build something better and so there's a lot of them out there and if you find the right ones you can actually make a difference like with the age 500p yeah and to to be fully clear here cooler masters working with us again on this stuff so they sent the h 500 and the H 500 m which we're both actually really good cases I mean the reality of it is too that you know at our scale if we have to go and buy a case ultimately we don't whatever yeah like I'm not getting I got an engineering sample of it but I'm not getting a finished new razor blade I just don't get anyone I have one yeah there will be review because you guys gotta get really think about it and that's the bottom line and that's I think that's really important for media outlets like what we do or anyone else on tax base is if a company doesn't sample you either because they they're afraid of negative press or they don't think you fit their narrative or whatever else the other reason why you should overlook - sometimes it's just an innocent hey you know we just won't look at that closely right yeah exactly and it's it's very important for the outlet to take responsibility and go buy the thing so that you can still report on it just bought a MacBook Pro and MacBook Pro that's that's gonna be my new daily driver really that video by the way was excellent oh the initrode yeah okay I know we actually kind of screwed it up because the first one went by and there were thread there were comment threads with a thousand comments on them I'm like a Balaam's on reddit all that kind of stuff but it was very controversial and so when we did the follow up we were like wow this is a lot of controversy we need to make sure that we addressed some of the misunderstandings and some of the things that are just plain dumb that people are saying and so we kind of we laid out this really structured argument pure fact we'd be inserted almost no opinion whatsoever and the controversy disappeared the second video didn't even perform very well like it wasn't it wasn't like edgy enough or something and I'm kind of sitting here going well that was a better video let's just that's just outrage culture though right that's just people you were you didn't have anything to people even mad at yeah I'm the second one so no one cared anymore so that's that's kind of the problem yeah like with the I saw some of the article clippings you guys had in that fault that most recent video where people are like well of course Apple then helped them because they opened it how do we right guys should we be allowed to open our electronics and thank you it was a I was really hoping you Cass that's an ad for I fix it no it's making sure yes I don't know I thought that was a really important point is that you don't let the companies which as you say they are run by people like there are people we interface with there are people who probably know all the things that everyone's mad about very well it's just a matter of making sure the right people understand that and act on it so bottom line we're not competitors we love working together we've shared meals we've hung out at events like this we respect each other a lot even though I might see you know Steve's video and go wow that's a very dull delivery you've got there's at least exactly what we do and he might see my video and go yeats okay this was supposed to be friendly and we see ourselves as all just part of the tech entertainment and education ecosystem and some of us are more entertainment and some of us are more education and that's fine agreed one final point here is any of you on social media like your on Twitter or whatever the a lot of the manufacturers actually have someone managing their Twitter accounts and they will see your comments so if you if enough people complain about something there's a good chance it might actually get fixed but just keep in mind I think he will forget this a lot of products take years to develop even just a computer case like the NZXT amantha for example simple case took I think two and a half years so if you're complaining now there's a good chance they see it you just might not see the effects of your complaint 2020 meeting right exactly when you point out anyone yeah some things are faster but not all yeah some point all right so that's all that's all I got for a video my outro it sure can I answer it you can app try it okay I'm gonna outro cameras right there thanks for watching if you guys dislike line is tech tips so you can hit that button buddy Bud Light don't you don't get hit that button Oh what are they gonna do what are you gonna do leave a comment of course and don't forget to subscribe to lunch tech tips on YouTube and of course gamers Nexus on YouTube which you're probably already subscribe to news on Steve's channel and oh this video is brought to you by 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