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this thing was way more popular than we expect this is the Intel nook the Hades Canyon unit which AMD and Intel work together on creating and we liked a lot honestly it's one of the most fun pieces of hardware I've reviewed lately just cuz it's kind of different it's cool to see something from two opposing companies that's actually really good so what we're gonna do today is try and realize the full power of overclocking because when we overclocked it for the review it pushed pretty far but we kept running into thermal constraints and at the time we were pretty confident that I can go even further still if it didn't have that thermal limitation we could just put a fan on it honestly and that'd be fine but we're gonna go with liquid cooling instead hopefully so I'll see how this goes before that this is brought to you by the msi gtx 1080 gaming X and Nvidia's GeForce experience which allows you to retro actively capture key gameplay moments with shadowplay convert captures into gifs with new tools and apply filters to games hashtag no filter Emma sighs gaming X PCBs are high quality with well-built power management and coolers that we've previously recommended learn more at the links in the description below this thing's not too hard to open so we got to open it up and it's gonna be a two part video part one is going to be this one where we try and I try and figure out how to liquid cool it part two is going to be the results and the actual data for testing with liquid cooling we have thermals before we'll have thermals after will have overclocking numbers after all that stuff should be a lot of fun actually also builds I did a PCB and vrm semi pseudo analysis on this box you're curious about the actual the vrm set up you'll watch that so a couple things here this doesn't have mounting holes for the liquid cooling shocking I know we can't also drill holes into the PCB to create that scenario so I'm not really sure what I'm gonna do it's probably going to involve zip ties and I don't know I have these parts which we might reveal a little later from aliexpress or friends over in China ship them took about five weeks to get here and it's basically laptop liquid cooling parts and we're gonna try and put them on this first thing I need to do is open it up so this is I'm going to be using the new iFixit kit they are going to be an advertiser soon you'll see a couple ads on our channel for them they're not immediately the second but this is a Mantha kit I have not used it before so it's going to take me a minute to find everything but this is their new iFixit Mantha kit that they are I think sending out to market soon so here's the inside there's the Intel skull logo old skull trail logo here's where the LED magic happens if you're a curious pretty simple and straightforward really alright so now I need to pull screw here here and I think maybe that one and this thing just kind of lifts up on its own at that point Mantic it does have Phillips heads okay so there's that what is this are we gonna need this that's for the LED okay so we won't need that here's our memory what we need to do is remove the whole thing this is actually kind of a painless process they don't really intend for you to do it so it's one screw in each corner all right important note here if you can always try and get your fingernails around the lip of these connectors because I have done this before if you pull out the wires eventually you'll rip one of the small wires out of the the header and you'll have to resolder it and that kind of sucks so these are for the fans I believe which we'll review reveal momentarily two blower fans on the underside alright so next step is pushed out minds a bit easier because I've opened it before I'm gonna tap our ground point from the gia anti-static mod mat I'll go ahead and plug that that's our product get a store that gamers Nexus not not to pick up the work surface that I'm working on right now it's super rubberized and grippy and it's anti-static which we like made in a factory that makes products for clean rooms actually alright so next part this part is really annoying you're getting a tear down here of the note condition to the liquid cooling stuff so they never did tear down off the neck so I talked to people at Intel to confirm this and the best way to get this board out of here is to kind of slightly bend the metal for the i/o which doesn't feel like a great thing to do but it is the best way I could find because it's got little hooks on top of it that hook onto the i/o and you can't you can't lift it up at the back and just like angle it out because the blower fans will get hit in yes all right most of the hard part is done so there's our blower fans these are the things that were working so hard to cool they're pushed up against this aluminum heatsink it's a very efficient system for the size and they they're blout they get up to over 50 decibels when you have them at a hundred percent basically unusable at that point and that means you're kind of limited thermally on overclocking at some eventually you get limited now it is a full vapor chamber cooler so Intel's done a lot with the space they have especially because they clean function well what's called the Vega part and an Intel part under the same heatsink this is this is my doing it don't worry about that it's I put on much better at their own pace alright so vapor chamber setup as noted we're gonna clean all this off or I guess on this one that's the vapor chamber and it's got heat sinks for the vrm so we'll have to figure that out honestly we could just use air a lot of air flow on the BRM components would be sufficient so I need to figure out what I can put here for a liquid cooler and then we'll be good to go okay what can I put there what I need to know is 1x 51 that's very close to Polaris we might be able to just put unbranded sketchy heatsink on it so I apologize for my previous stance on hating on boxing I actually think this is a really valuable one we can do right here what are these do with them there's our heat pipe this is gonna be awful that is an option if I don't need to I'll put like those crappy thin stacks on top of here it's here with a big fan because otherwise I'm not convinced this is really conducting any heat is there better thing we can do does not cover everything let me just check one more thing that will cover everything how do I hold it down before putting their own pace on it I'm just gonna try this idea mount this thing and then run zip ties across it and for the vrm components we'll just use we'll just use the air for those all right this is our proof of concept I'm gonna have to run a couple of these it kind of secures it but clearly this is far too loose so I'm hoping if I apply force this way as well it will get it to stabilize on top of the silicon components but we're gonna need to actually cut this so that I can grab the the thermal paste using this stuff specifically because it's not liquidy so I know when I put it on there it's gonna stay which is important because this cooler is gonna be moving all over the place as I'm mounting it it's also why I'm going to put extra paste on there HBM that's the HBM over there it's really low heat flux so we don't really need to worry about HBM overheating at all we could honestly just cool it with a lot of air I'm gonna just chalk this with paste to make sure there's for sure contact question is is it even making contact I think so you sure I think it's in the right places okay so I think this is what we're gonna go with right now this is a patent-pending design so be quiet if you're looking for a new mounting mechanism for your coolers because you need one don't steal this idea but basically it's a weave a weave of zip ties going in and out of each other applying opposing pressure on the tubes to keep the thing kind of centered it wobbles still but I'm hoping there's enough downward force to do what I want and if there's not then I have other coolers I can use I could probably drill holes through stuff and get them to align with through holes on here but let me show you the back side this is our the best part of our creation in putting this together kind of realize like oh wait a minute I forgot to put the SSD back in but fortunately we can just do that it doesn't need to be screwed down because if I apply more force it will not act like a seesaw it will probably just pivot on the fulcrum there and crack so we're gonna do that for the SSD and there's the mounting mechanism there's a liquid core to be quiet to 80 millimeter silent loop that we use previously for the Vega mod I'm just using it because it had the most versatile mounting kit and then we didn't use it and I'll probably just put some maglevs on here so my biggest concern I have because this is Vega we have an HP M thermal sensor in there we have a GPU sensor we have a CPU sensor so I know what temperature everything is if you're worried about the the MOSFETs don't be the solution to the MOSFETs is to put a fan like here that just blasts air through it and it'll be better than the solution they had on and of course this is far more portable than theirs so we previously talked about how the Hades Canyon NOC is so cool because it's small you could put it in like your carry-on bag plug it into the hotel TV and have a super powerful mobile editing station in addition to whatever laptop you bring with you which is something we've been considering for Computex for example now this version of it I think is far more likely to get through airport security actually I'm pretty sure if if they asked questions about this you could just say that it was a jerry-rigged device to drag thermal device it's probably what I would go with so yeah I don't know I wouldn't say I'm proud of it but we'll see if it works fortunately that insane amount of thermal paste I put on there did turn out to be a good idea because the cold plate moved around a lot during installation so I'm just hoping there was enough there that as it kind of wiggled around any throw aways that came off the sides was just access anyway so the next step is to thermally test this I want to plug this into an external power source believe it or not the intel NOC board does not come equipped for this particular task and then we'll plug in the SSD as I showed I don't know what other things I need like what else do we we don't need this this is the blower fans we don't need those cables so what other cables did I unplug I unplug the LED cable for the Intel fancy school canyon logo things cold trail logo thing and this is LEDs there's an LED board we don't need that plus a power button switch so I'm gonna have to find the power button on here I'm assuming it's a physical button and if not then I'm just gonna jump it is that it right there yeah so I think I've got the power button so where's case I just jump it but that's that's what we're gonna do see if they're all tasks on this check back make sure you subscribe to catch the thermal testing on this thing it should still work there's really no reason it wouldn't work presently we didn't apply enough force to bend the PCB that much it's a little bent it'll be okay check back go to store documents nexus dotnet to pick up a mod mat like the one I was working on for this episode and then also go to patreon.com/scishow and access to help site directly and get exclusive access to the bonus ask jian episodes that we do for patreon thank you for watching I'll see you all next time