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Live: 9980XE Overclocking with Car Radiator

2018-11-15
okay we should be live or we should be live now I think we're live now never quite sure let me know if you can see and hear everything okay and we are we're pretty fun stream I'm not gonna reveal the system just yet but it's it's interesting it's it's cool okay chat chats there okay so can everyone hear this I'm getting some yeses cool what cpu it's the I $9.99 ATX II gonna change them to that it's not the 70d XE actually it is except that has solder this time so yeah that's what we're working on today getting people saying that that you can hear so what we're doing is we have how I'm gonna let some people join chat but we have a 99 ATX e and someone's asking car radiator or what a cool Maura I'll talk about that in a moment once I show it so 90 90 DXE if you don't know is a 79 80 XE except it's soldered and otherwise completely the same so it's it might you bend a bit better I don't know it's more mature silicon in theory so my clock a bit higher but the difference here is that it's a different CPU insofar as not being literally the exact same unit as our 79 t ed Exe which is good because maybe the silicon quality is higher on our 1990 DX e the problem I ran into previously was that the when we did the review was that the 99th EDX II was just getting too hot for me to overclock at a size or 792 d XE so if we fix that problem then how high does it overclocked at that point that's the question we're looking at today and I would like to try and beat our 79 t DX ee times by extreme physics core that's my goal today and if it beats it without I don't know if we'll beat it with without water I think so what I even get see 3dmark Hall of Fame so last time I did this was before dual GPU we got to get back in there and do that again but the cpu score previously 12,000 428 I don't know maybe a lot of that wasn't memory last time a lot of we're not gonna be playing on with GPUs today so that makes a lot easier I can just focus on the CPU I would like to be 12,000 for 28 that was our previous high score for the 70d XE at mixed o'clock so it was like 5.0 or 5.1 on a couple cores and then 4.8 or 4.9 on the rafts something like that maybe 50 on the rest that was with chilled water though and if if the silicon quality is higher maybe we can beat that with not chilled water and then that would make things easier if I want to put it under dry ice later and BJ's current score so that's that's kind of we're doing some quality testing today on the 1980 XE so it looks like chats filling it a bit see if there's a couple super chats and things like that you may need a bus radiator who's a big radiator okay so we got Eric s $2 funds for flying builds to the office thank you Eric we've talked about it not this year as a not before end of year but we have talked about the option Paula Knox two dollars Australian what cpu are you using collapsing emojis or something I don't know what that is in between each each word it's a 99 8 exe which is a 70 90 DXE I've not deleted it and when I was talking to Rome and their bauer about the thermal issues we had on the night 8 exe we kind of discussed steal it and I just told them I'm not gonna bother like I just it wasn't interesting enough and I knew the risk would be alright I have like I said to them in Skype I'm worried I'm gonna rip the SMDs off the substrate because it's not like a 9900 k where there's no SMD is there no surface mount devices it's just a flat substrate and the only thing on there's a die so worst-case scenario is you might damage the die but if you're confident that won't happen you're fine and the 1980 XE surrounded by a bunch of small components so I told him I'm not deleting because our 9900 K had some like solder overflow around the edge of the die that was just enough where if it had been a ninety nine eighty xee there'd be zero clearance between a cap and and he deleted his and we all know how that worked so he's gonna repair it at some point though so I am not deleted here it's just solder and the bonus of intel solder on the ninety nine eight exe is that once I bring it to something like dry ice it will be easier to work with I mean it's it should perform better than probably then 790 dxu a thermal place because once you're sub-zero you really can't use liquid metal anymore liquid metal is the hotter it gets the better its thermal conductivity so as you drag it below zero Celsius you need to switch to paste at some point and solder should theoretically be better than most pastes so we'll see but I'm not doing sub animate today or sub-zero today anyway John keep up the great work five daughters thank you are you going to test the Z 390 Maximus 11 extreme no current plans I think I've seen some interest for that one so we might talk to Asus about it but no current plans okay so I just checked a normal chat and I saw infinity XTX Haig please give me a shout out all the way from the UK I'll give you a shout out but I'm not gonna go to the UK to do it so infinity X DX well welcome to chat let's um we're at about 1500 viewers now it's starting to build so let's let's show off the system here's the thing when I reviewed the 99 ad XE we said their statement was that as long as the concern was can you get it to a high overclock without the lighting without needing an unreasonable cooling solution so our stance was yeah you could probably get it to a really high overclock like kingpins been doing with dry ice or liquid nitrogen as he's been doing with Alan - and it might be higher than 790 DX e but can you get it higher than 270 DX e without liquid nitrogen can you get the 980 XE to a pretty high overclock with a reasonable cooling solution that any user could fit in their case for example and so what we've done today is we are trying to answer that question we have a reasonable cooling solution that anybody could fit in their case assuming you remove all other components from the case and that is the more of three 420 millimeter radiator it's got four 200 millimeter fans on the front it is basically the car radiator and I don't know if water cool sources any other parts from from car radiator manufacturers but I would be kind of surprised if they haven't done it in the past if not currently so hi this is this is this is the Mora 3 with a whole lot of fans on it well large fans on it anyway a technically chat but yes yeah yeah it is reasonable it is reasonable what he's talking about so this is from water cool I've met them a few times ransom in Germany and they've been trying to expand their us market presence and I asked them well I don't know anything about your product but please send some along and we'll will try and work with it and see if we can start understanding what you all sell and this was one of the first things they sent um so yeah it is a it's got for 200 fans on it the thing with those fans though is that it is technically we get higher pressure through the radiator with 140 s or 120 s but these are different and interesting and they're quieter so that's pretty cool and then the someone's asking about new case door and asking if you could get this into a it's a it's a computer radiator he clickbait at us I mean if you think this is only ever used in computers then yes I guess so but I guarantee you this is used in things like the radiator core is used in things other than computers for sure there's no way there's not volume on this to only be computers are these similar things out of the factory would be but anyway yeah so we have four knock to 140 s on the back they're not special I didn't have I don't have another bracket for 200 millimeter fans in the front so Patrick installed four knock to one 40s in the back one of them is the 3000rpm industrial fan but I've brought down the speed to about 1,400 to match the others so not actually that fast which would be cool because if we can get these temperatures down without blast in 2500 rpm fans that means everyone will have a better stream experience what else should I appreciate your lack of RGB in those fans we appreciated it too and that's why we gave nacht whit an award at Computex for the least amount of RGB stuff at a booth the phrasing was a little different but so yeah I don't know what else to walk through with this I guess we'll do the basics so I have the full system components list in the description below if you're interested in any of them and we're using four of the 200 millimeter fans we've tested these before versus other 200 bands these are pretty good but then I wouldn't describe them as overclocking fans I mean this is not this is not an optimal setup it's it's this is what we would call a reasonable setup that anybody could have in their case so it's not the highest overclocking performer but for those for the other Noctua fans the the radiators on a stands it's a more of 420 it's on a stand which is kind of cool very heavy especially one filled with water and also has quite the slicing potential as I learned when I was assembling it the pump is a dual DDC pump this from ek we still have our wood block over here so dual DDC ek pump with a tall reservoir on it and then that is hooked into I've actually changed the CPU block so it's no longer the ek supremacy we've changed it to the heat killer or what they call is it for heat killer for from water cool and unfortunately we're not gonna have an easy way to show you the system itself because there's a gigantic wall of radiator in front of it so that's not going to have the effect I want I'll just be careful when I walk near this yeah it's a really really fun system to set up and we're gonna see if at overclocks okay the biggest biggest challenge is just thermals on the cpu and this should solve a lot of those I think we'll just leave this there that's I honest I don't know if that's more or less secure but I'll just not touch it about that so yeah reservoir pump radiator CPU that's the loop the GPU is just an FCW 3 RT X 28 see I f TW 3 I say just because I don't have it under liquid I don't have it under ice anything like that so we're not gonna get as high as total score but we should get a higher maybe CPU score than previously I hope like I said the but I don't know the really high goal would be twelve thousand four hundred points but I don't know if we're gonna hit that without without ice okay so is the stream stream quality stream playback quality okay that's the question I think I think it is based on comments just checking that before we really get going and I need to pause the playback here okay so a couple super chats before I dive into this we have Derek $2 hash tag shirtless stream no John five Tyler's keep up the great work are you going to test the I got yours the Maximus extreme not sure Brian Johnson five dollars went from 6:00 to midnight when the stream started you get it thank you and you're welcome went from 6:00 to midnight when the stream started okay okay Kevin began ski five dollars what shampoo do you use to get your lawn locks and is your hair naturally wavy I use their own paste we've gone over this everyone should know this by now so typically you know a bit of cryo knot and then he followed up with some arctic silver yes the other answer Martin Berta's which hi Joel hi Steve stay warm this winter vscp is I think we can accomplish that I think I think this will warm up quite nicely with the CPU going calm or Derek Derek Jackson five dollars no message thank you evil bread two dollars you checked your power company before overclocking I think they'll they have nothing to complain about they're getting money for it Sean Devine $5 rip Jays four radiators is this thing superior than Jays at : I don't know I mean it's not superior to dry ice that's for damn sure but we'll see I've never used this radiator before it should be a lot of fun though okay so what do we what size fan does that radiator take we've got four to hundreds on the front of it so if you want to find a box fan the size of those I guess you could do it and then we have four 140 s on the back so we haven't even fully populated the back but anyway yeah I think we can start overclocking this it's a quick note as our way it's one of the best ways to support our streams is through the GN merge story and go to store that gains access net it's a big stuff up there I say it one of the best ways because other than super chats of course we have we have a lot of stuff and we would like we would like to keep that stuff moving so if you want to get something in exchange for helping us you can go to the store and pick something up the mod mats will be in first half of December so if you're in the US there's a very strong chance you'll get yours barring any shipping issues before Christmas and then international is kind of hit and miss email us if you really concerned about it but the mod mats are going to be in very soon they're almost out of production we actually got we have a video to share of how the mats are produced I haven't even showed Andrew yet so we have a cool video on that but you can pick one up very high popular item keeps selling out and we order them in waves the next way will be here soon otherwise the GN cobalt-blue beer glasses are in and you can pick those up on the store as well with discounts for multiple units okay so let's just save that these are all the old profiles from the previous stream so let's save that as test and then let's blast this profile away and start over so restore defaults except for fans we need those going fans num lock please 100 100 and let's do a tea on the vrm fan that's the one that's on top of the BRM heat sink that evj includes on there dark mother EVGA x-29 a dark motherboard we've got a link to that below if you're interested let's turn to XMP on and then I think I might just leave it there and see what happens so let's turn XMP off for that I guess just do complete stock except for the fans so let's see what that does just to get us a baseline so that we can really appreciate the the progression of overclocking tonight okay so a quick note advertiser for the stream is Corsair and they have the SF 600 which is genuinely one of these smallest power supplies we've had here in the office might be might be the smallest solar stones a close competitor but the Corsair SF 600 let me point that over that way one of the smallest if not the smallest modular really small power supply we have a link below if you're interested good for things like small form-factor pcs mini ITX build we have extremely limited space and it is modular so if you want to get rid of the cables for mini ITX build so that they don't unnecessarily clutter the very limited space you already have then that's a good option for you and they also have these in 400 or 450 watt units so they've got lower wattage just two that are a bit cheaper if you don't need quite as much juice for like an APU build or something of course there's work pretty hard on the small form-factor power supplies this year okay so 3dmark we're gonna do a time spa extreme run dry run only only a fan speeds blasted I'm also using the amusing Corsair link not because they're an advertiser or even because I like it because it's it's not the best soft but because it is working alongside their commander pro many I think it's called which we are using because there are so many fans on that thing and it's so far away from the bench that they just genuinely can't reach the motherboard and they still have trouble reaching the controller because it's it's really tall the radiator that is so that it's I think we've got five we have five fans connected to that and then we have two fans connected to the motherboard it looks like and the Nok to a black pete 3000rpm fan is set to a lower pwm signal of Silas something like 80% something like that okay what's Chad saying should have gotten an f-150 radiator I think well we'll cut it here this one seems pretty good and we might play around with like I said I would love to dunk this radiator in ice like we did with the the previous the 540 milliliter ek1 before going to dry ice just because this seems like a lot of fun to put in the ice bucket so we might try that we might do another stream with dry ice or wet ice overclocking designed by Johnny guru yes John guru works that works at coarser these days he doesn't run the site anymore that is I think the guys username is Oklahoma wolf runs the site now okay well we see Christmas rate raise him this time no the Christmas rate race well I don't know I haven't used this card before maybe the the red and green ray tracing by what you mean artifacting that we saw was in the stream with all the dye in 28 ET eyes and we just filmed the first the core segment of that video I have to finish once we get off the stream here so that will go out very soon we finally finished working on all the dead 2082 eyes and died on 28 ET eyes and have an update for you you can check out the video later for that probably tomorrow something like that so make sure you subscribed if you're not so you can catch that one because that's where I walk through a lot of thermal data and firmware updates I tested with Linux a lot of you requested Linux testing last time so we did that just to see if it artifacts it in Linux and I guess I won't spoil that result because that would eliminate Windows as the potential point of concern which would absolve Nvidia but it's I mean yeah that's unlikely 8080 not eight thousand eight hundred nine that's our baseline score here so let me just kind of drag this over there so eight thousand eight hundred nine CPU score for a very baseline so complete Auto now our goal tonight is about twelve thousand four hundred I don't think we're gonna hit it but I'm gonna try really hard without ice so Otto is 809 without XMP II and that's it okay so that's our first run what I want to see is what kind of temperatures do we have during a baseline run so that we can compare this later to see how much we're heating up during the throughout the night testing with higher frequencies and voltages okay cool so voltages properly set down to low like one right now one point one something like that or under actually where's our temperatures okay that's just open up core core five is typically very hot on this specific CPU open that up and we're just gonna get a baseline for everything here x y is a really short test fortunately so that does benefit us because it doesn't need to get quite as doesn't need quite as much assistance between runs to cool down okay some super chats we got APN films $2.00 thank you my 20 atti FCW 3 it has some pretty loud coil wine yes I mean that's every 20 atti has a lot of coil wine well not everyone but a lot of them its want to say every I don't mean every single 28 yeah I mean every single like revision of the 20 atti they all have some kind of coil line doesn't matter which one it is it's a matter of his Fe so that is just a commonality with this this product yes $2 our I don't know I wish YouTube would tell us the exact currency my CPU is still faster dagi - I I don't know okay well that's not who that's in response to you but cool Michael Hudson 499 evj Z 390 FTW a motherboard opinion would you pair that with an 87 hundred K overclocked an EVGA XE ultra gaming 2080 TI you really like EVGA sub i my opinion is I kind of want to wait and see what the Z 390 dark does because the Z 390 dark is actually will catch this temperature before panning back c3 90s are should be the flagship I don't know what it's gonna cost that might already be out there so my opinion is I want to see what happens to that one okay so just for our baseline here the score doesn't matter just windowed we're at let's the maximum temperature this is not by the way how you should ever measure temperatures by looking at Matt yishun you should log it an average it but anyway we care about Max's for purposes of overclocking competitively so our max is like 40-ish and I think I think that is a bit higher than I would like it to be so we'll see how far that allows us to go we're already at 40 ambiences maybe like 20 something okay we got a couple more super chats Sam commands I roll it to dollars hey is that a 79 80 XE yes and no it is is Schroedinger CPU until you pull the cooler off you don't know which one it is is both the 99 a d XC and 79 ad XE simultaneously the mage $5 Steve I purchased - two - mod Matt's could I run them in SLI and if so how well do they scale up they scale linearly they will take they'll take two times the amount of space if you have two of them and will you'll have to buy a AGN mod my SLI bridge with it you don't have those yet I'm sure they'll be sure they'll be difficult to get and very expensive and just like Nvidia's okay so well what's going on I was just hitting delete or something plus that's what I was hitting plus okay so let's do XMP already where we want for the fans per core I'll message the memory last let's just put 40 come on man no mock please 46 that's C 45 let's see a 45 so 4.5 gigahertz is actually know what what was I have numbers for 44 and I have numbers for 44 at 1.15 so we can do a pretty good comparison there no other change is not going to mess with then wow we should we should do that let's put that 1.95 for VIN not gonna mess with anything else here so let's let's do that see what happens okay do they support J tracing nothing chase to sense version of ray tracing so like I said picking stuff up from the store tonight is one of the best ways to support our streams the mod mats will be in very shortly if you want one before end of year you should place an order soon because the next round will probably be in January maybe end of January something like that and then we also have the beer glasses and the mugs if you're a glass or a person we've got 15 ounce mugs for coffee drinkers out there with the same teardown logo as you see on this GN pint glass with the gold rim and all that stuff so you can pick those up on the store and we got an order in already from Nate and Rock Rapids picked up a mod Matt Thank You Nate for picking that up much appreciated okay so let's let's launch this again and then wash off the we'll have to show off the system again for people who just joined a bit ago maybe once this is running okay so CPU only I click out back in otherwise it'll break and yep there it goes that's what times pi does okay so our original baseline score our goal is about twelve thousand four hundred not sure it's achievable our baseline is eighty eight hundred and nine and we pushed up to a very smaller overclocked 4.4 gigahertz one point did I type in 1.15 remember what I typed in and on a second just before we commit that I don't remember exactly what I typed in 3d mark kill okay this was talking through everything but not actually thinking about what I was saying 1.15 okay cool and that's before any loading but good enough should be pretty flat LLC on this okay just do it quick let's do a thermal and frequency a thermal and voltage check first it's gonna run this windowed CPU test and then I'm just gonna check on Hardware in for a while that's going hard wooden photo 64 by the way some of the best software you can get for your PC it's free I've never talked to the developers but I would like to because their software is extremely good ok someone said the Gallo has asked about the motherboard not an EVGA fanboy it looks like good motherboard yeah the z3 90 FTW is fine if you're not running at stock it's even better it's when its stock it doesn't really follow the Intel spec that closely because the turbo durations are extended if you don't care about that and I don't really have any major problems with it we might be looking at that board I don't know we might do a PCB analysis on that one okay so voltage is one point one four nine this by the way is an EVGA board so else he's pretty flat on the X 299 dark which is what we want for this application and we are at 4.4 gigahertz so we're at where the frequency was set and max temperatures are getting in the 50 is now so it's it's starting to climb we should do a current clamp test too so I'll set that up while I show off the test bench please say a free software hardware info is free software to use anyway not to me but okay so we're okay for thermals definitely you're in the 50s let's let's look at this bench again I'm gonna hook up that current clamp if I can get in there without knocking anything over and it's very close call at the radiator or theof erm fan forty millimeter fan would not survive contact with anything very well okay alright good there I need somewhere to put this without it falling over that's gonna be a challenge you know one second I got a got a maneuver without breaking the vrm fan don't know if it's possible I can just hold it while we to her run for the whole stream kind of Oh got it okay if it falls it's gonna kill that vrm fan all right I'll walk you through the system one one second we just need to start another one of these first so I can look at the power consumption while this is going to zero it I don't think it'll be off by about 0.4 amps so they forgot to zero it okay why don't you have the original car fan on it you probably couldn't fit a car radiator fan there almost certainly so we got a store purchased from Tim in Tracy in California thank you Tim for buying the signed mod mat I'll be driving over to sign those as soon as they come in the ones that that were picked up during the stream and otherwise so if you go on the store there are two skis for the mod mat one is the signed one I have to drive out to the distributor and go through all that as soon as they come in but thank you for picking that up Tim helps significantly during the stream let's check out the current draw here I can't quite see it 23 amps so 23 amps plus or minus about 0.4 because I did not zero it before I connected it it's about 276 watts give or take a couple watts and has that changed at all and it's part of the bench no 22.6 so there's your power consumption with a 4.4 gigahertz one point one five volts overclock if you can call that one then here's the test bench just to walk you through it people just joining it's a Mora for 20 millimeter radiator with four 200 fans 200 meter fans on it on the front and then on the back we have this is good placement because it's stopping me from walking too close then on the back we have four 140 millimeter fans Noctua also and one of them is the 3000 rpm fan I just spun it down a bit and I don't think there's a reasonable way for us to show the rest of the bench but it has an r/t x1 atti FTW three it's got a 99 ATX e for the CPU we have a heat killer 4 block water cool on the on the cpu VRMs are just cooled by air and a heatsink nothing special and i think that about covers it Corsair a X 1600 I for the power supply and Andrews going handheld so if the stream drops we'll be back momentarily but let's make sure that doesn't happen okay I think you're good so that's the rest of the bench and you know it would be a good shot as if you dropped it right on the middle and then it could be it could be replayed for each right we can do it Kyle didn't make a shirt out of it so yeah extra night and dark the heat color blocks pretty nice I haven't used one of those before RTX card I haven't tested it or anything extensively but it's doing just fine for this so that's what we're working with all right so what we need is no hardware info running what was our our temperature ranges in the 50s low 50s for that run let's just run a full CPU pass what CPU block it is heat killer for water cool is the brand what's up with SFX PSU that was the advertisement for this tree and went through it already but if you're interested in it there's a link in the description below ok got a store pick up from Joseph in Florida Thank You Joseph picked up a mod mat as well very like I said that's that's uh we're really proud of that product of the mod mat because it's completely custom like it was our design it's our spec we had to go find the the way to get it made and we've had to do all of the troubleshooting we had to even figuring out how to ship it because we have a video where we tested the $400 like pneumatic stapler versus tape because shipping a six pound total shipping container in a tube yes is kind of a challenge so it was very fun to work on the product it really gave me some insight as to what manufacturers deal with when we're criticizing their products now I understand better like shipping delays manufacturing limitations working with factory is stuff like there's really good perspective for us so what we are running right now is just four point four gigahertz and 1.15 volts and you take a note for that of that for later four point four G 1.15 and I'm running this because I knew we had a baseline number for it in our review for performance and for thermal data and all that stuff so if you wanted to compare you can check the review for some of that we're in about the 50s right now it's only maybe a 1-minute benchmark something like that so it doesn't really have time to soak into a radiator the size of this one it's that there's a lot of mass there and it would take a while to reach steady state so being a shorter benchmark is beneficial to us and for this score we ended up at ten thousand one forty two so our goal tonight about twelve thousand four hundred and with Auto with complete auto no changes we had eighty eight oh nine so where that number is right there we're at eighty eight oh nine and then four four point four G we are at ten 142 so we're approaching the goal but it gets it gets increasingly more difficult as we continue to climb and we are going to have to for sure do some mesh overclocking today as well that's gonna be a big jump for us so let's let's go ahead and get that into BIOS and then I'm going to read some of the super chats okay so quite a few of these to check out right now Kevin why is five dollars I take it Intel will not release a new chipset for the new nine series X processors my understanding is no I think they're gonna stick on X 299 I know some motherboard makers are working on a new X 299 board for these CPUs and the same CPU is for the most part but there will be new boards so if you want something that's maybe a bit more tunes than perhaps they'd be worth looking at but we don't have any yet so I'm not sure I've seen one seen one of the new X 299 boards and it was an improvement over the the vendors previous board but we can't talk about it yet I had a V X offset on that needs to be turned off that's bad so we were actually not not legitimately at 4.4 because I think there is some AVX going on in time spy let's try that with a B X offset off because that is a bad thing that we don't want okay what video card is it it is in 2080 TI FTW 3 but we're not really using it right now and the output display it's a bit of an insult to it so okay this may take a while this right no not as long as you think to get at least to 11 okay we've got a store order from Samuel in Australia and he picked up a a mug and the oh the shirt I've got on this design the teal logo anniversary shirt Thank You Samuel for picking that up it's got a long journey but we will get it shipped immediately okay so we just need to see if that offset affected anything this for at all in any meaningful way and it is certainly possible okay run that okay super chats we had a message from Mitchell rule five dollars do you think you'll be able to push the 980 XC up to the Pentium 4 extreme edition temperatures I think I think we can do it but maybe not under this cooler I don't know we've got a lot of thermal Headroom here tonight speaking seriously to that one for a second so we're good up until the 90s really you start having some some D rating and some fall-off of stability as you increase the temperature voltage can't go as high as we increase the temperature which is what in turn increases temperature so yeah I mean we're gonna push up until I'm out of thermal Headroom and then that'll be it that'll be the end of the overclock because I guarantee the CPU can go higher than what we're gonna get tonight it's just we'll need more and potentially dry ice or something like that so just if you're curious the current is still at dead of a 1 amp higher it's like twenty four twenty four point five so that could be variants but potentially there's some impact from a VX there okay we got a message from evil bread there's one of the best names two dollars what merged you need to sell the most right now I honestly just look through it and see if there's anything that you genuinely like because anything we have in stock where obviously happy to fulfill the orders immediately and then anything else that's on backorder we get those out as soon as they come in the the Raglan hoodies I'll note we just restocked those so if you've been waiting I know some people were emailing me asking when we get them back in the 2-tone lightweight hoodies are back in stock so if you're dealing with some kind of cooler fall weather or something like that then those are on the store and they are a great item for not too cold and not too hot kind of like the Seabees current stance but that's not gonna last very long so previous with this exact setup except AVX offset was on I'm just kind of making sure that wasn't a factor here and that was 142 yeah oh yeah so 10,000 for 12 so let's just update that note this was with a vx-3 offset and we're at 10 for 12 outside of error a bit so now we can let's just keep pushing frequency incrementally until we get to a point where it kind of gets stuck and everything crease the voltage and then mesh mesh will matter a lot tonight so I'll start pushing mesh 2 also helps a bit in the graphics so the graphics benchmarking is interesting because if you're a GPU bound which we're not here but in the other two parts of x y extreme it would be the faster if you get like 2 threads to be a bit faster than the rest if that's kind of your maximum Headroom on the CPU it is beneficial because the GPU is waiting on the CPU a lot of the time keep up like in dual and env length benchmarks or something so getting the sleep the the two main threads a bit faster is always very helpful for some more graphics core actually not even just CPU score but it helps with graphics work extreme voltage mode enabled sure whatever so then 1.95 we're just gonna leave this isn't gonna be stable I'm pretty sure one point one five four target voltage Emma was certain that's not stable auto for the rest for now and you know four point five is not really enough let's just go to four point six maybe and see I think we're gonna need like one point two five for this but I'm gonna try one point two four and see even get away with it but I'm almost positive we need one point two five yeah it's five dollars can you please say it's extremely important yaps CPU is still faster dagi okay now I understand more you're responding to someone and you're you're having a proxy war with them via me which I'm okay with because he gave me five hours for if I don't know what that I don't know if that's Russian I don't know what currency that is they just put the letter R next to it thank you though and congratulations on your CPU being faster than Aggies it's how to light of discontent five dollars Australian in fire suppression systems they have dry water be cool to use that and leave the fans on and see what the performance is like for cooling please test no immediate plans that is an interesting point this doesn't otherwise what I don't even I don't know anything about what what you're talking about I don't know anything about fire suppression systems is that used for like someone in check let me know what is that used for like electrical fires or something that would make sense to me I guess grease fires okay let's launch that see how that does let's chat saying waiting on way down the stream to catch up to where we are five-hour pogchamp 5 roblox one point forty volts no it shouldn't be one point four two should be one point two four did I say one point four two or did I type it let's see see what it is it's 1.24 it's not 1.42 if I said 1.42 that I meant to say 1.24 okay just checking before we committed to that run because that would have been not good all right this time is gonna do the trick it does yep run custom okay what's mesh overclocked so you're familiar with encore overclocking it's like that speeds up a bit of everything I think that what is the stock setting like 24 X or something I think it might be a 2.4 gigahertz stock for mesh but we are at we're at 24 right now I think I pushed the 33 or 34 X ratio on the southern ID xee when it was under ice I want to say 33 was pretty stable maybe 34 and you'll see everything boost a bit so mesh is one of the most overlooked things you can overclock but it's on the x9 so like X 299 CPUs you don't need to look for it in like an ad 86 kaor anything like that on core overclocking doesn't it to make more sense to monitor thermals on an external machine well no it doesn't matter because we're not we're not in a scenario where it's really relevant you could put a thermocouple in there and sandwich it between the die and the the seat the IHS and the cooler or something but there's really just no point I mean we can we're just we're just checking every now and then I don't unless we're doing the we were doing like the ice overclocking then it becomes more important to do external monitoring which we did we had thermocouples going into the reservoirs on the tank and all that stuff if you're doing Alan to you for sure want one in the L onto pot to make sure you know what what temperature that's at because that's really important for booting it snow cold bug or stuff like that okay so what does that pass we are at four point six ten thousand eight sixteen I said I thought this would crash but it did not so that's good four point six one point two four and that is at ten thousand eight sixteen in our goal tonight is about twelve thousand four hundred so take a note of that score and let's go ahead and look at some of the to get a quick thermal read so I understand where we're sitting for a head room so we're just gonna set this up so I can take a look at a head room after just one pass which is not gonna be that hot but important to know okay and we got some super chats in some store order stuff like that so we got C store order from Nikolas in North Carolina I picked up a an autographed Maud mat that you nuclear stores will get to get to you a bit faster than the others given the proxxon the distance we have Jason in Texas picked up ATO logo shirt as well that's this one the teal logo anniversary shirt and then one more to read off Caleb in Arizona I picked up a mod mat as well thank you Caleb and everyone else who's picking stuff up during the stream so far always helpful I'm trying to keep an eye on both the like normal chat and super chat so if I'm behind on superjet just give me a bit of time I always get to all of them sometimes we run a little behind because I try to interact with with everyone with normal chat too we don't want to pay wallet if I can avoid it but it doesn't mean we run a bit behind sometimes okay what questions we have we know salducci five dollars is that radiator for the 99 over to go is that radiator for the 99 a DXE or for the new in quotes RX 590 uh-huh it's for its it's for whatever you want it to be for I haven't test the test of the five 90s thermals in a serious way yet so we need to get around to doing that but I pushed that one off for review because we got it like 24 hours before we would have had to film a review and I'd rather put higher quality content that has had time in the lab we can test it properly then just rush it out especially cuz we already we're dealing with a ninety nine eighty XE launch this week but we'll review it soon and look at the thermals so where was our temperatures we're in like the our worst was 58 61 60s so it's fair to say we're about sixty now I'll leave that up for a second and we've got plenty of headroom here though okay so let's get into BIOS and if you haven't seen the machine we're on a gigantic radiator with four 200 millimeter fans on the front out of interest I see a silicon wafer in the background what CB dyes are they we're actually not sure and neither was the person who sold it to me I bought it on eBay and postal carrier unfortunately Wow I don't know it's not really their fault the person who shipped it put it in an envelope the postal carrier bent the envelope like there was a crease down the middle of it and so it's all shattered up in the top but we decided to frame it anyway not sure what what it came from honestly don't know it looks cool though so that was at 46 let's just see can we get 47 with this voltage that's that would be nice 47 X on 1.24 let's just go ahead and put mesh up a bit oh no I want to not change mesh stand alone so we can see what kind of impact there is do that separately zbg says andrew is d - man your I think it means your demand well PS you are using the power of this rig it is a corsair ii x 1600 i it's an expensive power supply so it has an option to go multi rail or single rail we disabled we went to single rail because otherwise you just constantly trip all over the overcurrent protection so we disabled that because we will be going over we go in over 40 amps at some point most likely so this is just 47 might crash here but I want to get a current clamp read during this run so I'll take a look at that if it's still on no carefully extract this actually I'll just turn it on where it is which means it's gonna be about 0.4 amps off for accuracy would be a little inaccurate but close enough and we we needed real numbers I can zero it out okay so it's back on I'll get that number in a second what cpu is that it's the 99 ATX II we got a I don't know what currency this is sorry we got a 1000 are you be super chat from Lala hahaha thank you for the super chat here's a handful of money buy some gas for your car vais fais set up it needs energy for stable overclocking PSA from russia there you go you have a good the great content well thank you wah-wah-wah-wah for the 1000 Russian rubles thank you donation and we buy some gas for the car radiator setup it's probably about what we'll need because we were approaching 30 amps now so it's not that much and we do like 40 I think I was doing about 40 43 and some of the blender benchmarks with a heavy AVX loads but 30 is nothing - yeah it's it's not a small amount of power I think we're at 28 specifically 27 28 something in there so roughly 330 watts in that range plus or minus 0.4 amps rupees or rubles thank you okay couple super chats juice drove my screen went black give me a second they'll come back screen noise does this or it's a cable I don't know so this is at 4.7 1.24 I thought it would crash but it has not just Rove stop Steve 15 Norwegian thank you just as you can see this is what is up right now anyway I think we are previously at 10000 where we 10000 still 816 and now we are at 10,000 990 that's a reasonable improvement so there's some variance in this benchmark and it is I mean sometimes it's a lot of variance let's do another run same settings I want to get two or three of these in and then just change mesh only I don't know if that'll really impact much until we push higher start changing memory and stuff but let's do that anyway they talked $4.99 thanks for all the long hours you folks put in to benefit us all what is your favorite CBO temperature track in Salzburg so I really card we're in 564 that's on there right now we're using that earlier it reads pretty much everything it reads even the special sensor is on some of the Asus boards so really good software you don't have to pay for it and I don't know if they even have a paid version I'm sure they have some kind of enterprise services but we like that one I bought and still use 8o 64 bought that years ago first one I ever used it does a lot of cool things but for thermals it's not it's not my favorite anymore it used to be I just I find hardware info 64 to be more accurate now because every now and then over the past years I know there'd be a new CPU and it just wouldn't see it or it would read the temperature as obviously wrong like every now I need see a CPU at negative 30 degrees when it's on air so we moved away from that but I think they've gotten better I just haven't revisited it Axios to GBP what do you think of the low r-tx fps in battlefield 5 no current thoughts we're looking at it right now haven't done enough with it to have any opinion at this time although I'm not surprised I guess Trevor Giuliani $5 please start a downhill mountain bike channel on the side can we rely on GM to have early reviews of his e 390 dark motherboard for the sauce waiting on our ninth gen I hope we have the Z 390 dark early Jacob if you're watching get on that I guess because I want to look at that board we ate we technically I do have a side channel the GN Steve side channel and we I do have I keep saying we but that one is just it's just me this and who doesn't follow me with a camera down the mountain that one is a it's GM Steve I have a couple videos up there for mountain biking some downhill runs I have a night ride I need to put up from Bryce bike park ok CB score 11 thousand six so as you can see some variants demonstrated here Brett ten thousand nine ninety before nothing has changed I eleven thousand six second run is often a little bit faster but we just average those later if I wish maybe do one more for averaging purposes and then just change a mesh a little bit after that Martin two dollars Steve GN coasters or shot glasses question mark we talked about doing coasters I have some some ideas that I think would be pretty cool for those but have not explored the manufacturing options yet stuff I want to do and I will see I have a few ideas but it is definitely something we've discussed just need to put together a design and figure out like if we want to do anything special with materials because that would require probably a different factory contact than might be typical shot glass has no current plans but we I mean we have these the pint glasses are up on the store on store deck here and exits net if you wanna pick them up it is the blue cobalt glass with the teardown logo that's the same one that I've got on the shirt today and that has the the gold rim as well so running our third test pass for a 4.7 gigahertz one point two four volts and it hasn't died and one point two four is surprisingly stable actually because this was not stable well blenders a Navy X load it was not stable in blender for more than about six minutes although this is only running for one minute so whatever I will see we'll see how long our holds keep start temperatures down a bit wishbone two dollars beetle Adventure Racing with car radiator it makes sense I need to look up beetle Adventure Racing because it keeps popping up every stream McFly the old Volkswagen Beetle was air cold so this must be more powerful I don't know anything about the old Volkswagen Beetle but I will say that there are there there are plenty of cars that would do well with this radiator setup if you had adapted it I think just not very good ones okay so what's our third score looking like for averaging purposes that's what we need to do - talks about wanting to do more car reviews he should he should do the opposite instead of we used a car radiator for a PC we used a PC radiator for his Lambo ten thousand nine ninety four okay so let's just change a Bosch I don't know what stable on this let's try start with thirty two and go from there especially if I can do it without changing any of the mesh voltage okay we got some store orders thank you as I said one of the best ways to support us during the stream is through the Gianna merch store so Jordan from I believe that's Alberta yes Alberta picked up the 15 ounce ceramic mug Thank You Jordan been to Alberta a few times at Calgary and Banff so we're leaving 47 alone it's just my mocks not on let's just see 32 on mesh might crash without changing anything else will see the see if that has any meaningful impact - has a Lambo no Linus has a car he calls a Lambo which is I think now dead I'm not sure I don't know if they they got rid of it or not I think he still has it so when I went to LTX Linus is like fanmeet and retain they had his car there which i think is maybe a Honda Accord or something like that feel free to correct me in chats like a civic or an accord and it was previously painted pink I believe by Nikki V and who worked for him and at LTX his fans did things like poured paint all over the radiators and pour pour paint all over the seats stick glitter all over everything I mean it was it was bad enough that driving home he probably could have been pulled over for littering cuz there was definitely stuff coming off that car so no he does not have a Lambo he has a car they call lambda because it was painted pink and I had racing stripes which which obviously makes it a Lamborghini okay so physics run times by extreme Civic thank you it is still pink I'm being told by chat 2003 seven Civic is what a line of strives for his Lamborghini okay it doesn't have a new net car now to probably her probably I would hope so given how beat up that they know ice oh that's right rod Rosenberg's in chat hey rod sir rod works works with Bob Stewart PS mods he is a large part of the vs mods team they do some of the best case mods I've ever seen and Rob does a lot of the I guess rod is it correct to say machine work I think I think that's correct to say a lot of machine work for those case mods and he said in chat I made a spoiler for the Lambo that's true he didn't make a spoiler for lionesses car I don't know if he has it on the car though Chevy Volt now no frozen okay so froze we eat some it did just fine with the core where it is I have passed three times so we can assume it's fine so probably need some V mesh on there probably just some B mesh to help out a bit okay just reading chat hybrid car not electric surprisingly ugly it's surprisingly not ugly - okay I wasn't say that's mean then say about lionesses new car then again he deals with comments all day V course fine be mashed let's just bump that let's just tell it I'm like it's just hot one point one and let's do an encore offset of 500 millivolts and I'll do I owe at one point one where you leave si alone for now let's see how that goes see if it's stable this time those are some really good really good things you can change Forex 299 specifically so X 299 it's really hard to talk while reading chat X 299 you have a lot of options for tweaking uncor and IO is actually one of the most important things just for the platform as a whole for any big overclocks you have to be careful with it if you start pushing too high could definitely degrade the chip kind of like SOC voltage can on IMD CPUs so you push it too hard you'll have degradation you might even not know about it until couple months down the line when you can't hold the same clock at a given voltage anymore so be really careful if you start tweaking things like IO and I say voltages on different platforms si is a little bit more brutal on a system agent as I say things like the desktop DT platforms s3 CPUs and then SRC is it's obviously important but you have to be careful with it on AMD CPUs and rise and rise in 2000 have different tolerances for that too so be careful what you're looking up okay current clamp still going so uh just trying to see if rod and posted anything in chat I don't see it if he did someone's so on says read the title that says the name of the processor think they're playing into the meme of Steve what CPU is that because they like to make me say it but joke's on you I don't only answer that if you pay me be a super chat okay so no load right now I was like 11 apps cuz not doing anything oh that is very high for a loading screen but that's because it's at a high voltage there we go might crash on out now there we go now we're at thirty twenty nine point six thirty point seven plus or minus 0.4 because I have still haven't zeroed it damn that radiator is huge yes I should fly show off the system again in a second so some super chats David Allen of hunt $5.00 thank you that's 240 Miller CLC if you don't like or care about things like RGB LEDs well first I'll note that I if you can do it if you can fit in your case I do prefer to 80s because the cost difference is often really small and the performance is is noteworthy especially the acoustic performance so if you can fit a 280 I would recommend you stretch the budget there but the good news about 240 and 280 CLC is most companies make both and it's the same thing except the bigger fan and radiator so recommendation applies both places but for 240s if you don't care at all about RGB your LEDs or anything like that the EVGA CLC 240 is cheap and it's like really cheap and they're always attacked pumps except for that new course r1 which I have on the way that's cool it but they're all pretty much a Sutekh pause so survive 11003 no real score movement just from that I think we have to do more with the CPU first it's four point seven one point two for one point one for IO and mash 32x for the mesh ratio eleven thousand three other than EVGA is CLC 240 if you do like LEDs Corsairs what do they call it h100 I Pro and I haven't tested the new ones so keep that in mind they each fight the h1 type row I've tested that's an 8 section 6 pump it's not hugely different honestly the impellers bit better it's a metal impetus of the plastic one the tolerances for permeation permeation is less of a concern on that one over a longer period of time so you see more six year warranties on some of those and then other than that it's a bit expensive so not really my first choice unless you really like RGB or the look of it fractals I am NOT a huge fan of but if I don't know they they stuff all the cables into the tubes leaving so if you're kind of a cable management not that might be worth looking at as well okay so yeah no real score movement here let's restart it and push the the core xes $2 hey tie your hair back near the fans yes they are they're quite dangerous we'll walk over there again soon and take a look at everything I guess roll up pup Shepard $5 thank you hi Steve a longtime listener first-time caller I love the show we got so much snow in New York what's it like there there in your neck of the woods we're good right now although I would very much appreciate some snow so I can put this radiator in it and not need any fans although we'd probably melt through it pretty quickly so I think we're up in the 60s now Celsius although we are still rising and we will continue to do so very rainy here otherwise though so we're gonna go 48 1.24 V course though I'm not gonna touch that I'm I'm tiptoeing up because I think we're gonna blow through this voltage at some point and start crashing let me walk through the rest of the bench while we get this one up and running and then I'll go through more I keep almost tripping on that super chats and store orders and stuff and normal chat so if you missed it this is the radiator effectively a car radiator and it's got four 200 millimeter fans on the front we didn't have a mounting plate unfortunately this takes a special adapter didn't have the plate for the back otherwise we'd have eight of them on there or at least six then we have four 140 fans on the back that are actually pretty low rpm they're about 1,400 these are about 800 I think so not to know it's actually one of the quietest overclocking setups we've done while still being very effective and that's because gigantic and we also have a dual DBC pump from ek we have some tall UK reservoir that I'm always nervous about because it's kind of precariously mounted the tubing is all it's it's pretty insulated tubing so it's great for sub ambient or even slightly sub-zero overclocking like with salt ice or something because it'll take longer to start forming condensation and you can just wrap it with shop towel if you need to but it does take longer to form condensation typically rest of the bench we showed previously so x29 dark motherboard RTX 20 80 TI FTW 3g skill Trident II black memory at currently XMP which is 3600 and we can push 4000 on this pretty easily typically and that's about it a X 1600 I for the power supply if you missed all that earlier okay so 3d mark and you see if it crashes this time because it's 4.8 gigahertz now we're just for perspective on air by which I mean not not exotic cooling on air our 39 edx ii was was capping out at about 4.8 4.9 before i put in a nice bucket and we're already getting close to that target with the 9090 DX e that said i never put the 790 XE under this radiator so not a linear comparison but my theory is that the 90 90 DX e will have more overclocking Headroom once we solve the thermal issue and there is a big one because the dee-lighted 790 DX e was significantly cooler in some of our testing we have that in the review it's really interesting if you haven't see it you should check it out because because the the test results we show it's quartic or deltas were a big problem for standard application workloads like blender this is not blender is like a really short test so it's not comparable to what we're talking about in the review where it has more time to reach study state like a real user would do so quarter Cordell it's a big problem but fortunately for a one-minute test not an issue today for us and the solder is also potentially beneficial once we move to something like dice whereas it's actually not helpful for what we're doing today it's it's worse than liquid metal and removing the silicone adhesive that's big part of it okay a couple of store orders thank you for sending those picking those things up so we got Garrett from Michigan picked up a an anniversary edition teal logo shirt this one right here thank you for picking that up Garrett we also have the the Raglan hoodies we just restocked today those have this design on the back except it's in white the the anniversary there's not the teardown logos on the back of that one and then we've got the GN logo on the heart location for that Raglan hoodie Thank You Garrett we have clay from Los Angeles it looks like I know sorry I saw LA and I just assumed Los Angeles was that Louisiana and an autographed mod man thank you for picking that up like I said those are coming in soon first half of December we'll get them out in time for Christmas for people in the u.s. almost certainly unless there's some shipping issue international you can email support at gamers Nexus not not if you're concerned or you have any questions he can help you out 11200 force that's at 4.8 and it was stable I do not believe this is stable on anything else but it's stable four times by extreme so I went out on two or four pretty damn good our goal tonight is twelve thousand four hundred and twelve I believe was the the score to beat and if we can beat that that would be impressive because that score was on on ice water what the semi I need a oxy that was our previous high okay let's just let this run again and this also means we can keep our current draw our current a lot lower because the voltage hasn't needed to be pushed nearly as high as I thought it would tonight which is really great news for our overclocking potential star star star star in chats as I actually love this glad to hear ya la equals lower Alabama apparently okay I am Bob is probably the simplest message we've seen tonight hello Bob Henry any reason you didn't use a car radiator fan well we had these and they work pretty well and we had a mounting kit for them and all that stuff so made sense to use these okay store order from Philip and Arizona Thank You Philip picked up a oh I thought it was the oh you did pick up the cobalt blue it's her down pint glasses so thank you picks up one of those a blue print shirt so our I think it's our only non black shirt other than the Raglan hoodie is the blue print shirt and then also the tear down crystal and medium size that is actually we gave one of those to our friend Sasha in Taiwan earlier this year for being the best tour guide because the products at the show were lackluster and so we had to give one to someone and it was Sasha for me to get to our guide and the Guan ha Digital Plaza I'm trying to try to keep them with all the chats call your local HVAC specialists I think we're good okay so that's were significantly different no not really okay that's within variance so eleven thousand one eighty we're at like eleven thousand to four for the first run the only reason I reran this was it got a quick eye on the thermistor for one pass no serious like endurance testing here or Max is about 66 I'm like I said this is a terrible way don't ever look at your your thermals this way if you're trying to gauge actual performance by looking at just like the max column a really bad way to do things we don't we don't do our thermal testing that way the reason I'm looking at it though is because purpose of overclocking like this we are going to be limited in frequency by our hottest core and so if any cores are ever throttling then that's a problem and I should dial it back so we're just gonna reboot and see what we can we can get any chance of I've got a couple of questions here super Chad's give me a second I'll get through those think we want to do four point nine and see if this crashes on on one point two four volts it probably will four point nine okay I keep saying that though I said that at four point seven as well not a gaming CPU what CPU is it it's a 99 ATX II which is a 79 80 X II have you ever it's hey steve-o you ever tried at liquid nitrogen overclocking from a tuna user in chat yes not in our own studio but I I did a video with Roman with their Bower I think two or three years ago at Computex where we got some hands-on with L&T overclocking it was fun I mean it's it's you know it's like a 30-minute setup so can't really get to hands-on he did a lot of the work for all the media who came by but and of course they already knew about how the CPU would perform so that was my concern but I did get to learn L&T pouring I learned kind of management of the liquid nitrogen oh yeah this is instant instant crash like it's windows is non-responsive so that's no good I learned a bit about managing the setup though which is important and something that would have been harder to learn on my own so now I just need to actually do some of that here okay some super chats to read so we have a tough biker $5.00 Steve can you build and try a bond cooler on a modern system old-school style I and you link something which I can't click I mean I'm gonna go with probably no on that question 1.25 okay so we've got we're pushing for 4.9 gigahertz here and just being at 4.8 that 1.24 is already better than the 798 exe was problem is again well somehow eight exe got there but not without a lot of help from sub ambient cooling so if this can get there without sub ambient cooling that would be great it's just a question of can we get to where the sudden IAD XE was with sub ambient Coulee and I think that answer is probably no but our goal is twelve thousand four hundred points or so and red eleven I think eleven thousand two hundred or something right now let's see if that's stable let's check the current draw to Kevin bagging ski five dollars hey Steve if you want to cool that radiator maybe try a fish tank with a roll of r22 insulation should be fairly cheap and better than an open-top cooler that's an interesting point I actually bought some insulation from kingpin I'll pull it out one second so I bought bought some of this from kingpin and he shifted out of it from Taiwan so that's where he lives so I don't think this is what this is what you mean for the fish tank idea but bought some of this for the board so just insulating the board from condensation drip off of tubes and things like that or off the L&T pot in the case of going dry ice that is what we would use so I bought some of that from him a lot of some other things like more of the kingpin thermal paste and he wrote on that piece of paper over there because he he saw my name on the order knew who I was I didn't tell him I was ordering it and just throw it to my best fan KP and I think that's a reference to like Street Fighter or Tekken someone in check and helped me out there's a character in one of those fighting games that when he got a KO he would have a note that said to my best man signed by that character someone help me out in chat tell me who that was or what game that was do you turn out to court since you're doing 3d mark actually turn it off Coors does not help with times by extreme we've tried it looks like the stream is catching up to where we are right now so I'm just waiting to see what Chad says oh nice that Corsair RGB starter set was in the shot with it crayons okay it's waiting for Chad to catch up to see if anyone can help me out with the name that's not launching let's try again Johnny Cage Thank You Johnny Cage I don't know if he is so I don't know if he's a Johnny Cage fan like if that was his his main when he played it or if human played fighting games or if that's just he was just being a dick not sure yeah so not stable we need more voltage we're at 1.25 Mortal Kombat's Johnny Cage it's Danilo your cameraman is great on point he says he says okay Kevin from New York ordered a lightweight Raglan zipper hoodie thank you Kevin picking one of those up you just got them in they were all at zero except for like small and 2x I think they're all gone I missed the BIOS screen on that sorry okay so this is a 99 80 X see if you missed that I'll walk you through the rest of it later chad is still talking about Mortal Kombat someone else is saying ken power street fighter input an output radiator temperatures would be epic yeah we had those for the for the ice setup we had that but I have not set it up here and that would have been cool it wouldn't be too hard just didn't think to do it it was numb walk around by default one point at one point two six give that stable four point nine any plans for G on shoes nope so that one quickly use a fishtank chiller we will do some kind of sob ambient at some point okay see that holds super chats still catching up perpetually H Marc Bouwer $10 Canadian thank you any chance of more 6x anniversary teal logo shirts crazy sizing that means that it's just slightly smaller than a 3x where I am the teal logo shirts are so those are made of the u.s. they're pretty standard US size in the I think I don't know if we have any 6x in stock we had some I try to order like one or two with every run so keep an ear out for when I say because we try to accommodate all the sizes we can and I think we still have like some extra smalls and some other sizes just because just in case but I do try to order a couple just to accommodate everyone each run so keep an ear out for next time I say we we restock the t-shirts because I'll probably try and get another one or two in with that run okay win racer 16 $5.00 any tail logo shirt sin 3x coming in it's great looking shirt we got a lot of size questions today are we out are we out of a lot of those teal shirts I didn't know we were that low so I'm sorry guys let me see teal tri-blend I think tri-blend only goes up to 4x I don't think we get bigger than that we have 4x and tri-blend we don't have any 3x and then we have we have one 5x in the cotton zero six and then we have zero three so exactly the sizes everyone will hots for gone not stable but it got it got further this time last time it crashed more or less instantly crashed on the desktop it black screen and this time we at least got the application booted so need more voltage right well 4.9 gigahertz right now at 32x match that needs to go up we are at one point 1v match 500 mega 500 millivolts encore offset and one point one IO voltage just to give you a run through all the settings 249 just push this let's just do one point - nope one point two eight I'm just trying to find stability without torturing the thermals too much on this thing I know I can do four point nine I just don't know where the voltage needs to be what's chat saying still still catching up on chat nice tip on the shutdown switch wasn't aware of that shut down switch is great if you're working in a bench setup not so helpful if you are obviously if you have it in a computer but so there's some really good just on that point probably my favorite button on any motherboard I think is about the same as builds Ords which is the safe boot button and typically read a C's for sure has it MSI has it on some and EVGA I think has it where you push it and it retains all your settings but it doesn't apply them which is extremely useful if you know you just need to change the voltage or you just need to change the frequency and not blow away all the settings work you did yes there's one on here red button it's also a retry switch on some boards that's really useful for memory training you just keep slamming and retry over and over until it finally boots does some of the tertiary timings and and non-exposed timings will keep training as you continue to try and do and so if you keep hitting retry there's a chance that eventually it will train and the timings will hold they'll be stable not a great idea for constant use because if anything ever happens to the settings you don't have to retrain again and booting sucks but it's fine for something like this and it looks like it might nope okay so it crashed right here last time let's see how much much further it gets I don't know I bought this right I think 1.28 right now sam says safe boot has saved me it a ton of times yes it's very good grimmy 12 no crash five dollars Canadian yo fam I know you probably mentioned it before but status on the dark mouse pads actually I haven't mentioned it for a while so they are if you mean like the the black and blue like the one I'm using over there they're getting made so we have them in production and we're just waiting on them to exit production under ship so probably a couple weeks something like that maybe two to three I'm not positive not guaranteeing it but that would be my based on my experience with with the same people who made this one I think about 2 to 3 weeks maybe before they come in to us and then they can go out - you haven't listed them on the store yet though that's nice so a more voltage need to continue raising vcore what do you use for inventory Cole $5 what's he use for inventory management software well for the store it's just it's just all baked in and then I saw a QR codes and was interested in it for my company we don't use anything for like right now we don't have a system for scanning those codes I looked into it briefly and we got a XI 1.3 volts we had a scanner and I had some software and it worked but I wasn't too happy with it so for now we're just thinking the codes on there because I know there's good soft right I don't I can't Road it's called - use one that's pretty good but I don't know if they're too happy with it I'm not sure but there's software out there you can just scan it when you want to check it out or in or something so it's more preparation for the future we're not actually using the codes yet okay but you can use a visual databases for good inventory tracking all right so 1.30 volts is our news setting and we'll see if this one holds at 4.9 gigahertz and if it does I'm gonna have to check on the temperatures because we're really climbing pretty fast and voltage and that's gonna make the temperatures climb as well let's show system again spend a little while so if you missed it and sorry if this is repeat but it's a Mora for 20 radiator Fort Knox with 200 millimeter fans kind of fun to look at anyway and it has a special mounting bracket for those not really meant for them I think you can mount nine 120 s on it or something to that effect and oh no eight nine 140 s nine three six nine nine eleven forty s can go on there so the backside has four 140 s on it we kind of just stopped short it could do more but it's in a push-pull at the top like I don't know 30% 35% has four 140 s on it and those are on there because they're helping guide the air over the vrm where i want more specifically because the cold air coming out that's cool and then DBC dual D DC pump from ek biggie K reservoir and this is all hooked up by zmt tubing which will be helpful so I've got QD season at this times quick disconnect like right here and I have two of those in there three of those in there where you can just disconnect the radiator and dunk it in a nice bucket and that obviously was intentional so we can do that in a future stream if we want to and then the bench is an X 299 dark motherboard which we've used for all of these X 299 overclocking streams card is an RT x 28 T IFC I'll be doing absolutely nothing right now it's like no graphics panting the fans don't even spend during these g.skill transy black from memory okay what's our current amperage where I know I missed the test so I can't see what it is that means a past hey it past eleven thousand three to the eighth so one point three was was stable four point nine gigahertz finally one point three zero volts stable at five and thousand three fifty eight huh we got a long way to go to twelve thousand four hundred but maybe with some memory overclocking I can get us to to get some gains a bit faster it's a quick test here before I reboot and push things further we need to see what kind of temperatures we're sitting at right now and I would also like to see the power consumption so we'll check hardware info after this run and just see what the the maxes are check power consumption during the run Adam Schumann senior $5 when do the new mouse pads go up on the store blue and black also still waiting for snowflake and midnight plush figures yes we are we're aware of the demand for that and have discussed it new mouse pads like I said probably a couple like maybe three weeks let's call it but hopefully a bit sooner maybe two I guess with potential holidays and shipping delays might be more like three Bruno a Cabral $10 in the the letter R for the currency cuz that's all YouTube tells me about it after Delia and liquid metal my 7700 K I need to check the power thirty-four amps 35 amps occasionally so if you're wondering about the power but it's plus or minus 0.4 right now it's about 400 watts a little more actually it's like 420 watts do something with that deal it in liquid metal 7700 K runs at 5.30 yards that's really high no one point 5 to 5 volts that's also really high or 5.2 1 point 4 or 5 volts both AVX stable prime 27.9 load max times around 75 to 65 respectively package and hot core we're running this 24/7 degrade my CPU I can't answer that with certainty but things like Si and an SOC on and the OL for sure degrade stuff if you push them too high 1.5 I feel pretty uncomfortable with though I will say that 1.53 is what you're at for voltage which just I don't know I would be curious how oh yes I forgot I cut my finger open on that radiator so touching anything oh that hurts I would be curious if it's actually at one point five three volts or if there's a lot of V Group what you should do is check your load line calibration setting you might already know this if you're that high with frequency check load line calibration and see see what you're at for the LLC because if you're typing in 1.5 3 but it's actually putting out like 1.4 and that's a obviously huge difference that should be accounted for but it's genuine 1.53 I would say I'd I'd prefer to step it down personally okay so our hottest temperatures here are in the 70s I think I'm seeing 80s yet we're actually doing pretty well this is really shockingly good so a giant radiator running test for only a minute of course and soldered so better than thermal paste but where's them liquid metal working out pretty well for us today what's chat saying are you selling this cool Ian for the 9900 K you bled for this thing someone says you remember you remember the motherboard rants video yes yes he the author of that article did say I bled for this thing when talking about how awful it is to build your own computer so water cools answer the question I'll sign it water cool sells these radiators and as for the 9-yard k we have some ideas but not ready yet with them 50 try 50 let's try 5 gigahertz all cores that would be we're already doing better than our 79 80 XE except for the ice part but I also need to really push memory that's getting kind of old that XMP this is not really good how are you measuring power consumption so when I gave the number a minute ago it's not total system it is at the EPS 12-volt cables so that is like CB u plus V RM efficiency losses power consumption super chats we got Quebec clover maple 5 dollars Canadian approximately 15 Americans hence for Easter I love the show I love you well thank you clover maple much appreciated Linus Linus was also throwing pennies at me in a previous stream although I think his this was a little less kind of course all all in getting fun I threw pennies at him later except my pennies were worth more so he got more money out of the deal and I said okay well or stop 1.3 balls I not gonna trick me that time I'm pretty sure it's not stable so I might just start pushing that voltage up a bit more Sam will you test SLI scaling and your r-tx testing we are certainly looking into it actually right now the other room I mean oku 94 99 thank you here's a few bucks for office snacks much appreciated we go through them quickly also update on the blue black mouse pads these are really popular I know you all like submitted the questions obviously before I answered it so but yeah just just in case like maybe calling it about three weeks I'm hoping for two but I think realistically like three it's not listed on the story yet so okay got a store order mod Mac autographs thank you very much so mark from Texas picked up an autographed mod Matt crashed immediately thank you for picking that up like I said the mod mat is is my favorite product we sell because it's completely custom it's really high build quality we think and also I use it every day so we I'm always excited to see the sell because people seem to like them and that that's good that's that's what I want that's what I would like in the products that we make so those are shipping we'll be getting them the first half of December if you're in the US there's a very good chance we'll get it before Christmas barring any weird shipping issues and international of course we will try our best but international it can be tricky sometimes man how far it's going alright let's push this so 5.0 let's turn on lock on first apparently let's do one point three two and just see if we can get that clock stable and then I want to push XMP or turn off execute after that and push the the memory frequency and timings that picking up on the mic some loud noises near us okay Steve Strazza in chat and serpent xsf hello serpent than and Strazza good to see you guys no one is getting five gigahertz before one point 4 volts I did it on the Saudi 90 DC actually although one point four made it a lot easier but I mean that's part of what we're doing here is I haven't had a chance to really test how this one scales with the it's it's supposed to be a bit more mature as a chip than the first one we had so we'll see if it scales any better it might be a better bin I don't know J's 7090 DXE was crazy he's like the most golden sampled CP I've ever seen and I do not think we got one of those here but it would be nice one one can dream to have CPUs as good as the ones Jay ends up with right chess Bruce I'm in the pub watching you pretty pretty cool that you actually definitely are not watching it on the TVs there but on your phone still counts I miss when when Starcraft was big enough that people were starting to play it in in bars like where they call it a bar craft they called it never want to want to watched it but I liked watching the eSports events at around the same time GSL gstl are good and I think they've all been revived I haven't watched though do you play star citizen no but we do have like 50 interviews with chris Roberts and the rest of his team from years ago 0.36 why not we will see if this one dies what CPU is it's the 99 80 XE okay let me catch up on super chats a bit about 40 minutes behind them now but if I do like 10 I can be only 20 minutes behind on them stridor early on $1.00 no message thank you next one is $2 and it's regular regular super chat can you t pose for 10 seconds I'm being told by being told by legal counsel the camera operator Andrew not to do it I do appreciate that it's the same exact message every time though all lowercase no - between TN pose no punctuation jeepers I don't I don't trust why you would need that mr. wobbles $5.00 hello computer would you recommend for a streamer editor musician youtuber between the 999 40x with no real budget cap between them 40 X is the 14 core the question I guess is how much does your software leverage the course because there's some production software we've seen like Photoshop that really likes frequency to a point where 9900 K is is most the time better than a seven nine eighty eight or nine nine eight exe or testing we showed that the what was it premiere tests we did definitely our favorite on the 980 XC if you do video production I wouldn't recommend buying that one just because the price and you're talking about wow that was that sounded like over current or something over current or over over temperature not sure which it was a shutdown there I guess probably over temperature we should not be going over current anyway I like to the 79 60 X a lot now I guess the 99 60 X is basically the same thing I like thoughts TV a lot because there's a good balance then I have 40 X is fine to build Zoid uses the saudi 940 actually used to anyway but it just depends on the software because like for premiere I would be tempted to go 9900 K to save a whole lot of money I know you say it's no object but I save a whole lot of money you can always put it towards like another camera or maybe new lights or something like that to and enable IG IG P and D software encoding and you get pretty damn good performance it's not quite as good as the high court count CPUs but it's pretty damn good let's go back down to 49 we maybe try 50 on a few cores a little bit later but first I am curious to see how high this mesh goes I'm curious let's get the memory back up first 4000 I need to push that voltage more later and we push those bit more later - Wow let's just do it all now let's see see what profiles I have left over to make this faster rip stable 3600 black edition okay and then we're gonna have to step down some things so previously here's this very convenient here are our settings for the 79 ad xee with liquid metal and an ice bucket we were at 51 on 4 cores and then 50 on the rest and then 30 for mesh this was a good overclock but it was on a much cooler setup sub ambient and then we had 1.46 faults for 51 acts on 4 cores so we're obviously changing that we're obviously gonna change this to down to 49 and we'll try to step up maybe for course 250 later and then we had previously 1.38 for V mesh that is so high I was not only like 1.1 here second ago so let's step that down to 32 because I know that's stable 1.1 or I think it is si doesn't really need to be increased right now and then I oh it doesn't really need an increase we're at 1.1 previously for that although we might have to push it with some of the memory clocks 500 is good okay I think we're good to go let's try that actually I need to double-check the memory yeah okay let's try that and the memory gets some cooling this time doesn't really need it but it's got those giant fans pushing air onto it they talked $1.99 what CBO is that 980 XC he damn it Alex Meyers five dollars here's some NC monies don't drown and Hollis rain there's quite a bit of it we could we could harvest it for liquid cooling today Exxon five dollars what are your thoughts on NOK toes Redux lineup as compared to their standard offerings honestly no real thoughts other than the gray I guess so like you've got you go brown or you go gray and then later they realize that like oh we're adding colors we should add something standard like a black crow max version or whatever no real thoughts though on the patreon behind-the-scenes thing I stream I have a fantastic update there and we're not there yet but once I can actually do it once I am unburied from all these product launches one after another then we can start looking into actual thoughts on on that question so we've done a memory overclock here see if that holds and like I said picking stuff up from the store tonight is one of the best ways to support our streams if you enjoy watching them we have big and small line so you can get a keychain for 10 bucks we've got stickers on there basically like almost a bumper sticker style 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good that's uh let's bump io a bit and see if that helps didn't really push mash any crazy amount I swear it was about pushed pushed memory it's probably needs about bio a bit the rest should be stable okay io oh no 1.2 let's do that one the mash can stay as it is okay try that grimmy 12 $10 thank you hey hello here's more money for my guy mr. Jesus man are all radiators with decent pumps effectively equal when you're replacing the fans anyway I like fractal but oh I think you were asking about the CLC's earlier but if bad besides fans I can avoid it's not bad beside the fan I mean like the the the fractal CL CS are just a Sutekh CLC's like all the other agent XEL CS so if you're replacing the fans anyway and you can find a good deal on it maybe you like how are the pump and the radiator look or something I already like the sleeve in or whatever then it's gonna be the same as everything else once you equalize the fans they're very small differences so the difference is between actually I'm gonna just let it be the difference is between cool it a Sutekh dinah tron a politic those are different suppliers for the CLC's but this is rip J for the username but if you're all within the same supplier like all A's attack and I'll same radiator size and you equalize the fans and they're going to be more or less the same they will be within manufacturing variance where the performance at that point is dictated more by the pump speed which is just variable it's it is it's about plus or minus 10% speed from unit to unit okay well at least we got a blue screen this time set up a freeze that restart mm-hmm so maybe a bit more voltage or something Adam says I run only Maglev fans they're fine fans they do pretty well the one of our maglev is recently won in a battle against a gentle typhoon fan not benchmarking but because the gentle typhoon fan blade fell into the Maglev blade and then the maglev wand so kudos to Corsairs engineering department I guess don't know just everyone is still 1.15 should be plenty I don't know maybe the timings aren't stable anymore might have to train into it okay so we got some of these comments talking about fans mr. doctor cheese and chat says smiley face the only fan I have is my Mahama and then Thai food and fans are brittle grandma says yes that much was apparent when it shattered not really an intended to use case to be fair I do like the Typhoon's a lot there they were probably my favorite fan for a long time but they're not meant to go into battle with other fans still not not stable so might need to step back on the memory a bit which is sad because these settings were stable previously but it always gets a bit fidgety when you're going between overclocking setups I actually have a something pretty cool we can show off while this is figuring out its life so this is pretty neat that is that's from MSI really cool so this is an old Lightning board obviously does anybody know which Lightning it is it's it's bit customized I'll walk you through why in a second as I dial back some of the stuff in BIOS okay bit customers anyone know what lightning that is so this is an msi lightning and the it does not have a GPU on it that's why it's kind of interesting 770 getting close I got a message from my distributor I adjusted your mug stock he says they are back in stock for the one mug quantity okay cool 780 Ti is correct so this is the 780 Ti lightning and the reason it's cool is because it's actually not genuinely a 780ti lightning that is a modified 780ti lightning so they only had a few of these I think they made like 50 of them or something and this is pre-attachment of all the service mount devices so you don't have any memory on there I don't have the GPU on there I can actually bring the GPU over to me one second so this GPU is from Nvidia where I toured their offices in 2012 and it's not it's not the same one I don't know I mean it's definitely not the same one I don't think it's the same much definitely not the same one but that's where it would go so that's kind of what they look like attach it like that with solder but anyway I'm pre attachment for this stuff and then the vrm is custom that's why this is a bit different so these fats up here this goes to the memory they relocated it for this card it was made for overclocking events and that's the memory PRM on this one and then they expanded the vcore vrm significantly it's actually really cool pretty cool custom board ms I'd dropped off for us and it has three power headers it was doing genuinely extreme overclocking though it needed them or at least could make use of them anyway a truce areas strix vegas 64 OC song says i don't know what the context is but i read their comment i guess it's what even happen there i just shut down or something where's our instability teeth ah should be fine maybe 260 I'd be a bit aggressive on refresh cycle oops let's try 300 here just trying to get to boot with the set of memory timings that are a bit better should I do lead my GPU no because if you try to do that you see the only thing there has to die so there's nothing there's no lids take haha don't do that like rip the the actual silicon off yeah so that's that's what your GPU looks like underneath for the person who asks I don't know if you're serious or not but if you were don't try and delayed your GPU because he can't you can take the cooler off and it looks about like this and you can replace the thermal paste I wouldn't recommend liquid metal for GPU it's not really worth it they already have direct eye contact to the the heatsink so kind of becomes pointless at some point okay will it survive we got couple super chat actually a lot to catch up on so like I said I'll get through all these super chats and I just yeah keep in mind I run a bit behind because the the volume of everything we're doing all at once and also the store orders like I got to read off three new store orders for the people who are supporting the livestream thank you so super chat's slowed thoughts on phoenix $4.99 thank you thoughts on knock doors industrial fans for custom loop they rated over three three times the static pressure of the non industrial fans looking to get a 45 millimeter plus raider if it's a fat radiator more pressure will help they're good I mean like I have one on here and it's really loud we should actually if I get this to boot again I should show you the the volume difference but they're loud so if you're okay with loud and maybe it's like a server setup or something like that Enterprise setup production setup where you don't care about the noise maybe yeah they're good but it's kind of brutal it's a nice if you have a head room to run a fan curve and just keep them at fifty percent of most the time and then burst for high load Leviathan Prem five dollars hello GN how goes the overclocking so far as 8:42 p.m. it was going very well at 8:43 p.m. right now we're stuck because I tried to change too much at once so I'm probably reverted a lot of that but I think our most recent score our goal is about twelve thousand four hundred points which is probably not achievable without ice and we are currently at eleven thousand 358 so or thousand points away it was pretty damn good if I get the memory working we might be okay I just don't know blew away the settings nice is that gonna work yeah a nice load last save settings is a great button so let's do this let's kill the memory profile and then apply XMP and what I'm gonna do is see if that's stable now that stable that means that we are unstable because of the memory and if it's not stable then that means I need to look at probably mesh or core so I'll just narrow down the point of failure okay just ex-mp this time one-one sure maybe mesh might need some more voltage will see there's a lot of points of failure once you start changing everything the grave Accent $2 desolder delete it make it even more pointless well I considering the chances of it dying yes Kravitz Erard 469 thank you can you say Eric CBA you got vrm we cocked okay Matthias to the hush did you turn off two cores this is your 3d mark answer that one earlier no we're doing times by extreme which actually does benefit from the extra cores I've tested that one it does benefit from them actually pretty noticeably it's like a couple thousand points if you start turning off a bunch of cores maybe not for two but it's a lot okay so if it's alive and it doesn't die this time then we can assume it was the memory overclock we can start fixing things okay trying to keep up with what smash is it only 4x4 use processors mash yes is 4x series basically uncor is the idea for that one store orders thank you for purchasing stuff so we got Robert from Thurmont picked up two of the mugs thank you Robert mugs do we we have one out somewhere yes it's a glass glassware drink where is really popular with our audience for some reason in particular and got the mug and we've got the beer glass we got a couple purchases of those things today so thank you for picking that up Robert and we had this by the way it's been one of our longest selling items and it always does really well I guess cuz the high contrast looks pretty cool we had a Karen from Baltimore picked up and signed Maude Matt thank you picking up one of those those will be in the US in the first half of December we'll be shipping them out immediately when we get them after I sign that one apparently and then we had David from Georgia pick up a mod mat as well so thank you for all those orders Maude Matt's coming in soon this looks like it is finishing this time so it looked looked frozen for a second there but it's going so this will be in soon and this front we we have some cool footage we need to show of how those are made to some extent it's pretty interesting takes a very long time to make one of them which is this it's good because I mean the quality is high eleven thousand three seventy one is that it's just hire from variants I guess no no not that much higher okay so we're at 11:35 84 that's 11 371 within variance okay so it worked memory was not happy which is a solvable problem because this memory has worked before with with the settings that were in there and we just need to maybe dial it back a bit or something I had it under ice last time so voltages I was pushing on IO and si and mash and everything we're a bit abusive for where we are today for cooling although the cooler is it's very impressive it's not quite ice okay so this does four thousand for sure no problem I fifteen really should be fine but let's 15 was fine last time so I want it to be 15 again this should be able to do 28 but let's see 30 because I think 28 is sometimes difficult on this one 38 should be stable for it don't remember what I had TRC to Ithaca look actually let's just do this let's load that profile again and then step everything back that should be the easiest so 1.3 get back to the rest of those in a second we go 49 for everything mesh we haven't pushed past 32 yet on this board but let's kind of limit what we're changing then one point nine five one point three four the core let's do one point two from yeah let's do one point two four mesh well bump that up more than we had before right one point one eight five previously if for SI one point three to four IO let's try one point two five on IO 500 uncor so let's let's do that that's just higher voltages on mesh if that's no good I'll step some stuff back on the time inside okay it's reading chat people talking about mercury and its evaporative properties and how poisonous it is well I've seen the random things chat is talking about okay so we got some super chat send to go through previously we had Medeiros $2 so it doesn't give you any extra OC header and relating to turning off course it probably does but the core is help more in time spy extreme it really likes frequency and threads what it likes threads a lot so I think this is still no-go on that let's give it another shot see we can just train its way onto booting what is the serpent xsf what's the current clamp reading from 12 volts once you get it stable I think we were pushing 548 watts in blender with with 4.6 gigahertz at one point two five which is what was required to remain stable for a half an hour so it's a lot there's a lot of wattage this may have mmm maybe not almost trained into booting or kind of borderline stable yeah no that's not sure we're borderline booting here let's try changing a few things I really just want this these timings because I think it'll get us really close to the the 12,000 mark that I want firstly okay all right dan Carlson you can reboot to UEFI running shutdown / r / fw yes or i can push the safe boot button but that will also work the martin see 1 2 3 5 GBP thank you can we have an ice key in the radiator and please tell me and please and please tell me cameraman that he is doing a great job got a pirate in the audience yeah that's right I gotta tell him please tell me cameraman that is okay Kara man that he is doing a great job okay have I've completed my end of the agreement 1.3 that's no good I gotta step back the timings cuz we're gonna start running too hot an ice cube in the radiator we do an ice cube in the reservoir enough people chant for an ice cube before that no the stream I'll put one in the reservoir can we get ok I had to scroll ahead to find your message can we ice cube all right there this Casey Hancock one dollar no message thank you FDM wo p $13.99 thank you Steve what CPU is this not keep up the great work thanks for all the info you supply the community what CPU is this not is is quite a lot of CPUs ah you're clever I'll give you that that's very clever but I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do it I'm not gonna fall for it we have a whole box of CPUs that it is not from our fan mail live stream mostly old ones are pretty cool though all right so memory timings need to stop stop being as good as they were the last time I just have to have to accept that's not gonna happen Alex Meyers $2 thank you shut down switch was a command switch not the mother word oh he's talking about earlier when someone was saying something about shut down switch data file $10 Steve why are you overcompensating with that big old car radiator are you trying to send a message is the ekw be you saying that hardware isn't big enough yeah so it's actually not the 45 40 would do well but this seems like more fun I don't want that OC robot we shouldn't do that before the end of the stream or something it has chat chanted about an ice cube yet yep they're doing it ice cube himself is going to trying to show up all right so this comes back down first of all and this probably can come back down and then memory needs to get worse in this category let's try and leave forward is trying TC WL at 16 one command rate let's go up to 300 on RFC I'm just gonna increase like everything I tell it works okay chat really wants an ice cube ice tray it hasn't been filled don't want to open this for one ice cube I get one I think I also need to take the cap off and the reservoir one ice cube is all you get we win so what's the temps well they're about to be zero degrees Celsius when I put this ice cube in there you just wait some water will be close to zero okay how much how much does chat want this this will stabilize our system so that we can actually boot let's chat saying right now I'll throw read it in a second are you ready for this we have to be really careful this could cause a reaction okay do like the Star Trek Red Alert shake chat so hyped on this ice cube like how its somersault in yes that will change everything it'll cause just enough condensation on something the killer component gasp yes that was a it's what everyone wanted I think with Hades Canyon and we were overclocking the Huck now you got your ice cube I need to save the rest of these for actual use two ice cubes hype they say the camera shake was rad andrew says not rad apparently sorry haha Vani why are you doing this to me okay bet it doesn't take long to melt well yeah correct so you can see a little dip in the surface tension at the top from where it was two batters and got sucked through the through the pump cog everything leave us now the Ice Cube will take it from here just put your system in the fridge yeah I mean that would do something so booted this time see if we can hold it got past the windows loading screen nope it really doesn't like that memory overclock that's unfortunate so I want it to work next time we look at the reservoir its wine evocati productions $10 I have a PBL OC 2,700 X with an SRC of 1.0 for for that just now started logging whe a machine check bus interconnect error is always on core 5 no crashing though is it reasonable to assume it's the soc voltage I don't know one at 1.04 is pretty low so you could try bumping it a bit you have room I don't know if that's what it is but it's easy enough to check it's booted this is I don't know is it I hope it's not the 4000 that's unstable that would be kind of weird since it has always worked for huts do auto auto auto auto that's really be able to do 16 that's really 20 but I have a feeling I'm IP RFC see if that works start narrowing it down maybe it's frequency or something okay Nathan Tipton $5.00 thank you watch your favorite quality of life feature and enthusiast hardware since you've been working in the industry that's a hard question safe safe beats a good one what is a good quality of life feature I think well since I started cable management I guess because the owner the Antec 900 specifically was like the most popular case that year antic still sells it and it did not have any cable management it just wasn't the thing yet no one no one did that so kale management's gotten big and I would say that's probably the one of the biggest improvements over the last decade or so that's a good question though toggle is to switch from multi and single rail that's pretty nice he's a Hancock two dollars nine gigahertz at nine volts for the wind nope not for the win DJ Oreo $10 question what are calling two GPUs an SLI and a custom loop have you ever seen or have any date have you seen or have any data as to if both cars receive equal flow and in parallel config I am Not sure I would record high ly recommend thermal bench he still gives its own bench not top nez calm yes throne bench calm VSG he works for a tech power up I think occasionally or something but throne bench comm was a sight that he definitely maintained if not still maintains and that has a lot of really good flow tests he has flow meters and everything it's pretty high-end stuff okay so I'm thinking frequency here which is awful what if I change something else let's try a few things that should be fine okay let's try a few things I really want that the whole night I feel like if it's just trash and without any of the timings tighten then it's got to be like frequency I know that those 4000 or voltage Paul's hardware had issues to marry frequency everyone has issues it's never a frequency it's talking to builds right about this how memory over call he's like the absolute most boring possible thing you could Xiao okay you got a couple store orders fortunately chat keeps it really interesting otherwise otherwise not interesting to just change the numbers till they work for memory Robert from Oklahoma picked up a keychain thank you Robert and one of the anniversary mugs as well much appreciated its booting sort of you got Christian in Sunnyvale you're out near on your AMD picks up a cobalt blue a tear down pint glass Thank You Kristen for picking that up ok it's in set is that the best it's gonna do is sit can I actually load stuff the mouse kind of froze for half a second so that's not a good sign but there is the remnant of an ice cube in the reservoir now in the form of water that's okay well I got got further than previously hmm Oh the CPU that was 26 degrees well it's it's doing nothing and an ambient of probably like 23 or something so that's pretty good all right I just want this to run again our last score was 11 371 and we need like over 1.4 volts 5 to push the CPU higher at this point so that's not really going anywhere without ice but 49 is very good nothing to be upset about especially because we're not on any crazy cooling right now oh wait we're not on any crazy any sub ambient cooling right now don't know what I really have room for please work okay I don't know kind of a room on Io 1.35 is not where I want to be with that so I'm gonna step that back in a second super chats Christian caldron $10 needs 18 Noctua nfa 14 industrial fans at 3000 RPM make the hair flow its I mean 3000 rpms an awful lot for those fans and 818 would populate the whole thing you can fit 9 on each side so you could do it probably have to wear hearing protection though ok well that is not gonna work for us so that's everything step step back the frequency I guess on like memory just try and get a run in there that memory can definitely hold the frequency it's just not doing it for me today which we've seen before and it could be IMC quality on the cpu I don't know maybe bad bad IMC or something and I'm trying my hardest to make it worse okay so we got Matt Brewer $4.99 can we see the effect of 2080 TI s ion ray tracing performance it is something we are looking into Griffon $5 hey Steve was wondering if you know anything about chrome ax AF a 12 by 25 no actually I don't I talked to him about that at Computex in June and I don't think they had any current plans but no we we for sure talked with them about it but unfortunately I don't think they had an immediate launch window at that time be mesh doing point to all of that should be fine memories got a step back it's just really unfortunate because all of this has held in the past so we'll see what happens as in the chat for Andrew the best cameraman and 3d modeler I don't know what this is in reference to there's something I missed earlier it's the room getting warmer it's a bit bit warmer than it was originally but now with a one degree Fahrenheit temperature reduction now we will be unbeatable everyone's saying eh are they saying eh to make it work is that like the opposite of f it's trying so all I've done is step back to frequency I even dropped the voltages back to more reasonable levels for all the auxiliary stuff chat has been saying a lot of A's which will make it work apparently we got a super chat from Dalton fare $5.00 thank you my strict 1080i OC runs in PCIe 8x only mode for whatever reason on a Maximus 10 hero no performance loss notice you probably won't see any performance loss so that's the good thing it's not really enough going on there it doesn't need the throughput of 16x so you good there my guess would be it there's a BIOS setting where you can change the PCIe generation in the Maximus 10 hero and so if you go look for that setting I think it's under the I think there's like a PCI subsystem or like a PCH tab or something like that but go dig through the tab it's not under the main frequency or extreme tweak Tweaker tab it's a different one and you can change the PCIe generation just change that to 3.0 and then you should be good if that's the problem I don't know I guess also make sure that the slot is physically wired for 16 but if it was already running that way then also this is kind of going now I'm saying kind of cuz I'm afraid of it but it's kind of going the stream is rated a for Andrew that's what the a is for nice if I gave you five dollars would you say meow nope Sam says keep the memory below 3,100 the board freaks out at 4,000 plus no it's worked this one has worked several times at 4,000 like in multiple streams it's just not doing it this time but 3,800 is working so that's good maybe we can try some tighter timings so our previous score finally getting scores again after all that time maybe his score 11 371 and that's 11 698 so that is quite a climb four point nine one point three I have to look at all of our other settings and write them down 11 six nine eight okay let's write down all the other settings and then pull the timings back in for the memory so I reset everything from the instability apparently was the frequency after all faint I least expected we got a comment from 99 from Center negative thank you why I has aluminum as a case material dwindled so much in popularity even Lee Anne Lee has moved almost entirely to SEC seeing glass here's money to stop mentioning ltte those maples that's I'm not sure if I should say the rest of it haha so aluminum is really expensive it's expensive make takes a lot of machine time the material itself is expensive and I would assume that it's entirely cost driven solely emily has been known for aluminum for a long time now lien Lee also wants to make things that actually sell in any kind of volume greater than a couple hundred units so I think they're starting to do more steel and and some plastic too which is fair aluminum is very expensive I I think that's probably why I mean you can you don't get quite the quite the build quality with steel but it's still pretty good so I guess as long as they're targeting good enough then it's cheaper okay co Garin $5 hey Steve I'm trying to upgrade from an i-5 600k four point five gigahertz horizon - which would you recommend a 2,700 2,700 X 2700 and then overclock it that is my firm recommendation for that you don't have to go through what I'm going through tonight it's it's easy you need to type in 4.0 or 40 or 3.9 would actually go higher and rise until you do like 42 maybe 41 42 let's go for like 42 and increment the voltage a bit and see how that works for you no not one I'm not doing 140 RCD see that's stable 3,800 must stay we'll see we got CL 15 Medeiros $2.00 we just want to crucify you on a 20 ATT hi well it's hot enough Daniel Giorgio Wanda no message thank you data file $5 Steve it's for the meme tipo is to assert your dominance it would probably be funny since the whole principle the technology is thin do you know what that what that is it's a teen technology I don't know whatever to eat pose okay well I'm so much happier now that this has worked once in the last 30 minutes not working at all was sub-optimal but it worked once we'll see if it works again see how 15 now so other than this MSI board which was pretty cool I mean if you missed it earlier it's just it's a neat board because it's customized for it was for an overclocking event 780ti lightning they added more phases to the core of erm and they moved the memory of erm phases over here and it doesn't have any of the parts soldered to it so it's just kind of neat but other than that they also gave us and this has has been the set background actually it was in one video so far I also give us this which is a a blank complete blank PCB for actually all is it labeled on here yes it is labeled on here you know I don't think the labels on this side did anyone know what that is what motherboard that is you might have already seen it that's an MSI board it doesn't have any parts on it yet and it is a pretty recent board I'll say that so do you know which one that is you might have already seen it in the video playback and video still catching up to where we are in reality so also the test is in the process of is passing so that's good test passed so what is the motherboard for this PCB it's here for creation there you go that is what it is so yes it's pretty cool that's what it looks like before they put any other parts on it and then they use pick-and-place machines to drop like a BIOS chips and MOSFETs and capacitors all go through SMT lines and pick-and-place lines and they're pretty neat actually they have we have a video of I think it's called how video cards are made or how other words are made it's in the gigabyte factory same idea in Taiwan and the one they used there is like that motherboard is missing its motherboard so the pick-and-place machine they had there they fill it with components like a Gatling gun and it just goes through and like punches them down one after another it's a really cool process to see we have some videos of it on the channel but uh yeah that's there's a blank board just kind of cool okay so 11,000 751 that is an improvement that's great we wanted 12,400 we're getting kind of close actually 4.9 1.3 3800 CL 15 is our settings and I look at the voltages too so that was 11751 let's see if we can get this a little bit a little bit further now we're actually having some success in the house that's great it's time to push it back to a point where it fails okay this is bad that you have to use a car radiator because Intel CPS are that high well I mean it is a hot CPU yes but to be fair it's at almost 5 gigahertz and it's at one point 3/4 so it's 18 cores so it's hot yes definitely but I'm not helping it any ok so let me write down these numbers before I forget them and we'll save a profile later - so these specs or these settings I had 1.2 VSA been out 1.18 5 VSA probably unnecessary 1.3 I also probably unnecessary boost them all one before we drop the frequency and then 1.2 v mash ok okay that's tuned some other stuff starting with all of these let's try 20 let's try 260 there that's kind of aggressive but kisi ke start there see how that does can anyone see my comment nope no one can see it a couple of super chats and store orders actually did I get yours already we had one from Leif in Washington who picked up an autographed mod mat thank you leaf we will be getting those in soon I'll be signing a lot of them as soon as they come in so thank you for picking that up big support for us to do these streams next one is from did you ever get that working yes okay okay did you find a task path yet or no yeah okay did you record it with OBS can you beam they're recording that way I can copy it later that would be helpful and then I can follow up with you on after I guess as we had Michael in Pasadena picked up one of the mugs and one of the beer glasses thank you Michael let's get a run going here I should check on the temperatures at some point maybe after if this one passes I'll check the temperatures okay okay so we got one from Paul Robert in Scotland got a good journey to go picked up two of the cobalt blue beer glasses thank you Paul Robert Derek in Texas grabs on the Mod bats Thank You Derek it's launching hopefully it works Kyle and in Virginia picked up two of the ceramic mugs Thank You Kyle like I said these have been really popular item for us ever since we got him in like a year ago at this point and then we have another one from Martin and Illinois who picked up a beer glass Thank You Martin okay over locked the router add another Ice Cube my computer is getting full how can you add more laughs why chat doesn't change I like to I like knowing that YouTube is storing thousands of messages from the stream and perpetuity most of which say things like tipos F a and Ice Cube Anna Hart Davis tweeting who's done that keep it up we gotta earn their they got to earn their keep of the super chat donations Sean Collins five dollars Australian thank you about 15 minutes behind a super chats not as bad as it has been I've brought you a beer enjoy - thank you would you comment on my build I don't know where this link goes and it's URL shortened so I'm not going to click on it sorry it may be completely legitimate but I don't want it like crash anything 11,000 922 ok nice really going up now but not far from from the ideal goal CL 15 and then we change so 11 922 and we changed to what was it t RFC - 260 and a couple others let's let's get a thermal measurement in here - I'm gonna do another pass okay bench all right let's go to some thermal numbers in Zeta moderator in chat is tiny earlier I asked them to do with the a messages for Andrew the best cameraman and 3d modeler okay Sean slurries $2 lovely vid save and are three twelve hundred wait love the vids Oh have there's no space that are sorry have a an are three twelve hundred what would you recommend for up for upgrades if you want to stick with your platform if it's good enough you could do like an r5 2600 or something that's pretty good upgrade that's a big one and it's somewhat generational just makes your motherboard is is good enough for it in the VR I'm Department Mustangs bi mát $5 Western Digital Forte right blue fared far better against the against the Glock at nineteen then the one terabyte did bullet-resistant case in the works still waiting for my 9900 K&R I made Asus eleven code yes the the hard drive back there the blue label one if it's visible is a from Mustangs by Matt sent it into our P o box and I'm not super visible because the radiator and it has a bullet wound it it's it's very very sharp but it's got a good bullet wound in it score eleven thousand nine seventeen so it's about what should be and then the thermals this time is what we cared about Wow we're not breaching seventy seventy-five I want core that's really good actually this cooler setup is pretty impressive hey question mark I am typing in an email address I have the letter A on the keyboard but how do I get the circle around it okay fire on a wire or $2 what cpu are you using here's $2 for cat treats it's more like snowflake will be more like here's 30 cents for human treats she actually handles all of the finances for the channel it is a 99 8 exe to answer the question okay so we're looking pretty good finally but I'm also out of room on things I can do so I don't know I don't have much else like to do here you try for 14 see how 14 but I'm not sure that's gonna work can pull back some of the timings a little bit yeah I don't know I think at this point I'm not gonna get like another 500 points out of memory so it would have to be core or something and I don't know that we're really gonna get it there either Oh 5850 okay let's do like 1.35 let's see if that trips OCP or something mm okay dan negara 279 Canadian thank you didn't realize this is live until tipo hos Joshua Bell $2 and she needs a computer parts store like micro Center yeah I mean it'd be nice if a lot of states on a computer parts store but we had a Tom POS a and Tiger Direct tigerdirect was awful compusa was purchased by Tiger Direct if I remember correctly and therefore became an awful hideki's Setsuko $5.00 thank you I know it scrolled up always appreciate something not always your vids and how you keep it real with the community question though I have a 79 80 XE that's convenient four point six and three thirty six hundred megahertz ram with two sli 20 ATT eyes bottleneck it depends on the graphics settings in the resolution if you're at like 4 K we have testing actually we've got a test for SLI 28 et eyes and on a 980 86 K so a lot of games are frequency dependent so in 8086 K is gonna be faster than a semi 980 XE e or as fast as one depending on the game it's just because they like frequency more than cores most the time so you can look up those numbers and more or less extrapolate at what point you'll be limited if you're pushing high enough resolution high enough settings especially with the way SLI doesn't scale sometimes then I don't think you're like me bottleneck too hard if you are at all I just depends on the game but look up the sli benchmarks we did and almost that's actually really good for five gigahertz on four cores that's pretty damn good Mustangs bi mát $5 nuclear bombs dropped were called fat man and little boy I guess this is in response to the fat boy wasn't the new can fall out fat boy though Dan Nagar 279 will you ever OC a Mac nope I don't even know how to use one I get I get stressed every time I try I have to use an Apple product can't figure out how to click on things particularly the right-click that's a terrible experience I wouldn't recommend it hahaha tech works $2.00 x4 99 more em ATX motherboards for thread refer don't know I'm not sure what the current road map is for thread river Bradley from Anchorage wow that's that's pretty cool that's going a long way picked up two of the beer glasses Thank You Bradley and then we got one from Kyle and Florida picked up some extra parts got a grounding cable and a wrist wrist strap yes dearest strap not to be confused with the verge to Live Strong written LIVESTRONG strap one point three six five volts now so kind of pushing it but we had a lot of thermal room a little bit ago I'd like to try and cap this in the next 20 minutes is possible with the overclocked dialing and now about as tight as it can go other than that last few cores Mustaine's why Matt plans to assemble the card the guy from strange parts could help that would blend both sides of the audience I don't which card oh the MSI card no no current plans I sourcing a GPO to be pretty hard for that we'd have like desolder one or something Dixon software solutions do you have any info you can share about Arctic sound no I do not tough biker favorite craft beer do not have one sorry ask Paul Joe zebra $2 y'all looking for a French writer on your team not presently not presently expanding who is in France chips and bits maybe chips and bits and there's some other publication over there I forget what they're called there come on publications in France there for sure in there French language Kelly Gaynor $5 which she had the stickers with no stick just vinyl looking for a nice vinyl logo to stick on the back of my Nintendo switch it has a clear case I guess you could mmm that'd be kind of a pain I was gonna say I guess you could like stick it onto a piece of paper but then you'd have to mask it and cut everything out so yes unfortunately we don't have that sorry Danny Garrett tell cameraman to zoom on your hands when you clickety click UEFI I think we did that once already all right temperatures are actually fine 81 83 80 88 it's a bit high on that one but there otherwise five oh wow okay maybe we'll actually get it twelve thousand hundred ten damn close this is without ice mind you it's pretty damn good so now we're at 5.0 on four cores and everything else is the same have to get another 300 points which we just got like 200 so I would need to get like 5.1 out of a couple of these I don't know if it's possible to do twelve thousand four hundred it's so close though it's very very close to where I want it to be nope okay yes there we go so I wonder if I can just boost it to fine on more cores maybe maybe that is feasible try two more course so that see what that does to more ice to more ice cubes what's one suggested two more cores 5.0 is there you go that's what we're doing see over watch highlights 20 SEK thank you what is your take on payload GPUs I don't really have an opinion on them they don't they don't sell in the US as far as I'm aware so I've never worked with one Mustangs bi mát $2.00 fan meetup medium mod back maybe someday and then medium mod matte we actually finally got a sample and that we're really happy with so now showing it off yet but we do have a sample in it's good we just need to to finalize details go into production so really happy about that we are finally going to have one it's not being made yet so you know give us a little bit more time but it's it's looking like we're gonna get those made by end of year or like start the production run by end of year that is which means they'll probably be up on the store around CES or at probably bit after CES something like that really matte is two dollars what's your honest opinion of the 2080 you're truly honest opinion I gave that in the review my opinion was buy a 1080i and now there's mercy gone so if you want to needs he is class performance he can't get a 1080i for cheaper then I guess you have to get a twenty eighty if you're not gonna play anything with arty acts or you're not gonna play anything with the arty cores leveraged then it feels kind of wasteful but I don't know I I wish we got more what from r-tx than we did and didn't use all the dice based on other stuff that's in one game presently by the way 42 amps for the current so if you're wondering about power that puts us at about 500 watts 504 watts thermal file $5 off topic any guess if Zen to tiara will fit in Gen 1 TR boards I don't know I'm thinking X 499 for those probably that's pretty pretty close to work in more voltage so I'm not sure I really don't know I think yeah I don't know no no conclusion on that right now ty Greeson $10 my most recent CPU is 1700 died from running 4.25 gigahertz for far too long might be 85 apps - I do I go thread Ripper - any of them 20 to 100 X wait for rise into or return to Intel h EDT Lightroom catalog 2.5 million photos that is a lot of photos I don't know how Lightroom does I have to look up the performance check Puget systems see what they say about the performance for Lightroom we have some Photoshop tested that's helpful to you but uh by if you have that many photos and you're that serious about photography look in the benchmarks for it because that sounds like that's the only thing that's gonna matter is how well they perform in that puget should have some some benchmarks we have some Photoshop though astral flow $2.00 behold Tech Jesus turning ice into stable oh yes and so was so it was told Kristen Keller on $2 memory OC will work just set to 2 volts not going to happen on this board unfortunately Sean Collins $2 ice cream tubs and freezing at large blocks of ice we we will just we'll do a chest device at some point with this set up not sure one pow so as 1.38 going to be enough to stabilize I really want the last few points here my stains why I'm at five guys do you like Star Trek props I have a mark 10 tricorder model with working lights and screens I'd like to Senshi live long and prosper that's pretty cool I do I have some I have some old tricorder and phaser model from I think modeled after the original series that are pretty cool they do also work in lights and screens I don't know if it's the same one we see no it is not the same one I mean hey if you don't have any personal attachment to it I'll gladly find somewhere to put it in the set we've got the P o box listed on the last fan mail stream target very $5 for the next electrical fire that you have Thanks really appreciate it bazinga $5.00 they now have RGB chopsticks will the madness ever stop have you seen this I'm afraid you're serious they exist John Donne two dollars buy a used a $200 car and tap into the radiator probably be cheaper than some of the liquid cooling parts that we are using on this thing got a store order from Gopal apologies for the pronunciation and the United Kingdom picked up an autographed mod Matt thank you an anniversary mug and then two of the beer glasses thank you very much for your tremendous support we appreciate it of course and this is passing so it did it the one point three eight volts it did it it's really good 5.0 now I'm sick scores one point three eight volts up from like one point three five I think 12,000 138 it's not even an improvement it's not really okay I think that's gonna be about the limit then maybe with CL 14 or something I process lasso it I don't know three other points kind of lots to try and claw back and I think we got to save something for ice but this is getting extremely far fruit first thing we're using for just the radiator without any exotic cooling so the fact that it's getting this far with that setup that you're looking at right now tells me that we have a lot more Headroom in this thing if we put it under just normal ice okay so let's do this I'm gonna save this profile and c99 ATX eastream mora and then what I'm gonna do is while I well I go through last few super chats you can check out OCC robot see how that works got it well thanks so this is called OC robot I've never used it before and it's an EVGA Otto overclocking tool we're gonna see what it lands at versus what I landed at and I'm gonna do super chats while that's going so we had Doug Alyssa m-files I just don't really have anything to ask just want to support the channel well thank you if it is is of great support and I'm hungry so I'll use your $5 on some food this is this is some name but it was a donation and I guess it's not bad enough to not read five dollars from grease nipples you didn't hand she'll after that one opinion on the course sir 600 qks Coursera 600 Q I don't all right I remember this one I have to look up a 600 see and see what was that unlike I mean it it looks awfully worn I don't know I haven't tested it personally I've worked with the the chassis before I'm a different case and the build quality is high but you might need some help with the the thermals when we see a 28 CI Strix review probably soon I guess when I'm done with all the 28 ET i failure testing so that's good I wasn't done is that it so it so we just spent a couple hours getting to four point four sorry getting to 5.0 gigahertz on six cores four point nine on the rest at one point three eight volts and this thing that four point four gigahertz at one point two eight volts it's basically running like a prime work thought I guess maybe like FFT is or something four point four holds on this thing though at like 1.15 maybe one point one eight so that's that's awfully aggressive that is is extremely aggressive well our our overclock I will say is better so you're wondering man versus machine I think I think we win this time let's let's give it one more go while I do a few more so that's just if you're just turning in I already did the manual overclock we're just kind of seeing what the auto overclock will achieve if I let it do its own thing Danna Goethe OC the UEFI please t-zone I thank you no way to do that unfortunately clinseq earn $5 following along in my following along on my semi truck at a rest area in the middle of nowhere have my 8700 K at 5.4 gigahertz all core won't hook four volts and 47 degrees Celsius you don't have to show off that you can overclock that well while you're driving I mean it's impressive but you can only go so far I found four is really good though jus bottom two dollars lower build quality for steel I would expect higher is that in reference 956 what is that in reference to I was probably talking about cases at that point maybe if I was talking about cases at that point then the that I don't think I was talking about yeah aluminum cases are typically accompanied by a higher build quality just because the tremendous expense the material to begin with and then you have a bit better engineering going into it so that is not a great let's just let's just do it let's so we've got our score recorded let's do EVGA version of the overclocked and run it and we do it we just do man vs. machine right now I clearly don't really lost but I'm curious by how how much it loses in times by extreme day to file two dollars Google tipos Miam site called Know Your Meme no thanks I don't know your meme is thank you very much great and visit for two dollars graphics card silhouette magnetic screw tray baby bent or win $20 Canadian thank you Steve can you give up the software used to change Seaview multiplier on epic Super Micro board I don't have it ok 8 there Barry yeah I don't have it sorry that's a that's a Roman thing you'll have to beg him for it I doubt he's gonna distribute it I think I know what he did if I remember correctly I know how he did it but I do not have the ability to distribute that for you all right let's see how does how does the auto us you do first is ours Dan Magura 39 thank you thoughts on building sleeper pcs with 90s beige case and a diskette I've always thought that's kind of cool Talia sleeper car I guess you can do you can do some cool case mods on the old beige cases I took a few and painted them cut some holes in them and I was really happy with how they turned out after going through a couple days of modding so it's a fun project and there's zero risk because you're only expense is gonna be the paint the tools cases beige cases don't cost anything super 20 is second second second twenty second one dollar Australian Thank You Phoenix 1861 499 I didn't say it earlier so thanks for the amazing content can you tell me where I can download more ram i think you will have to first download the internet and then you can download some ram next question is from great tube and oh yes i I knew what your I think I've seen your name before and I'm trying to remember you corrected me once on how to say it I think it's great to be an a you tiger is that it otherwise it looks like gr 82 but now Tiger $5.00 I think that's how I said the first time been the crap out of my ACS prime Z 370 soccer pins any chance you guys would want to try to fix it to for content unfortunately no I've I've unbent enough CPU pins in the last couple weeks do not want to do it any further my best suggestion to you two things you can do a razor blade and get it like parallel to all the pins and just like carefully flex it back and then another option is a fish hook is probably the best possible tool for unbending pins outside of a straight really small razor Wow impressive can we get an F for the robot please so if you wanted a man risk machine battle our score was 12,000 138 and the robot auto oh so you got 10,000 488 at a much higher voltage than it should have now if you don't know I mean if those numbers don't mean much to you and that's fair it doesn't look like a big difference percentage-wise it's like 20 percent or something but the difference is like a couple hours of work manually and the increase in difficulty is nonlinear so getting to that 12 K is pretty difficult comparatively so there's there's that okay I'm gonna read the rest of super chats do me a favor don't send any more because I got to catch up so I'm gonna cut it off at 10:00 10:30 p.m. Eastern I am cutting off super Jets that's now by the way we got and I'm go got it all user two dollars Christian caldron two dollars can you stream 720p 24 FPS 60 is too hard kill CPU no but I guess you'd step it down to 30 I guess you have to go maybe before to eat I'm sorry Erin tabby two-sevenths five dollars between 20 atfer MSI gaming extra 20 80 which is better came in extra oh for sure I don't even need to finish testing them to know that it burns that when Internet Protocol not going to miss an opportunity to send in a super chat to make me say his name it burns when I pee $2 try Jensen's mentality believe it just works well that's what we did and it got us pretty far but not quite to 12,400 very good though for not ice I will say that a couple more Cousteau when I want to stop there couse to win $10 thank you so I just want to say thank you build Zoid and you for the power play table information it helped me tune my gigabyte Vegas 64 card with for TCU Navi I may need to make it enough I Nate I may need another to make it to 2022 Oh GB Zilla it's tech a Seuss City I don't know the last part means but glad to hear power plate tables health you it's really fun to do those models I like working with the Vega cards for that reason even though it's kind of impractical but it's fun and I'm got it a user again two dollars you want to two x WD wrapped ten thousand thirty five gigabytes use used to raid them we're good on those we have arrived at 10k rpm Drive in the background over there so we are good thank you though Danna Guerra what kind of performance would an RT excise chip with all the CUDA V I guess is the question well you oh you mean without like RT cores and stuff I don't know I'm not positive how that would scale but I would think instead maybe keep the same FP use and then just make the chip smaller and that would reduce cost significantly and improve yields Sean sois do dollars getting away be 350 gaming would are five 2600 work I don't remember that motherboard it would work I don't think it would be good you could run it on that just don't be careful of the overclocking okay look at you two dollars Australian thank you my our fight we have a lot of Australian viewers but I guess it's the right time for that my r5 1600 only hits four gigahertz at one point four seven volts did I lose that's pretty high voltage I'm gonna say I'm to say you we're not one of the winners of the silicon lottery sorry Scuba Steve TX st dollars for someone who streams and games on a single rig at 1080p what are your thoughts on a ninety nine hundred K versus one of the new X YZ on X 299 then I not heard K we did stream testing actually and it does really well so as soon as like rise in seven chip either one perfectly fine 1080p gaming and streaming no problem at all on a nine I heard K especially 8700 Oz okay you'll be fine xx he's completely unnecessary for that techno creeper $10 thank you I'm debating on a vague a 56 card for 144 Hertz freesync or a 10 ETI for the same price what to do well thank you for these sixes it's competitive but 1070 tat is gonna out class it in a lot of cases so I don't know how much do you want free sink and also if you're willing to play around with a vacant 56 card and you don't care as much about power without going to power play the tables you can still overclocker pretty well I get competitive performance I don't know I it depends on the price I guess if they're like if they're the same price I'm inclined to say 1070 ti for the performance but if you really care about non tearing and games I guess that decides it for you without budget and 4g zinc or something we don't sell do chi $2 more Super chats and yours is the last one at 10:31 p.m. we a couple three more store orders I'll read and then we'll close out here so I got Nick from New York thank you picked up the T logo shirt that's the anniversary design I'm wearing tonight things one of those Thank You Nick now in order from Colburn from Illinois picked up the tear down crystal statue with the RGB base the only product we make with the RGB thank you and then ever gonna in Israel picked up two of the cobalt glasses one of the tear down crystals as well this is popular tonight thank you for picking those out there we think they're really cool and then one of the key chains as well so that is it we ended up at 12,000 138 which is pretty pretty damn good I was that's like really good for basically a 70 90 DXE without ice that's that's great I'm pretty happy with that it is not twelve thousand four hundred so we fell short of where our original CPU did a 70 90 DXE but though someone's great to be an Auburn Tiger thank you I thought it was Australian but that works same thing so yeah I'm pretty happy with Lawrence here 5.0 on six cores if you're wandering and 5.06 core is what else memory of 3800 we've stuck there can do 4000 tonight CL 15 might try 14 some other day - 6040 RFC 38 for foie and the most I remember on top of my head but yeah I'm pretty damn good for settings overall it's just I mean it let's take one last look at this they required this to do it but it was only in the 80s for temperature so I mean I probably could have pushed a lot more voltage we had the room to get a 1.4 but uh we'll save that for another time does I think we're just talking about like hundred point increases at this point so yeah that's it that's setup that's the more uh three with four to hundreds on it and for one 40s on it and thank you all for watching lotsa fun as always you go to store documents access net to pick up some of our products that you saw during the stream patreon.com slash gamer xanaxes if you want to see the to behind the scenes videos we did in the last couple of weeks and yes subscribe for more we'll have another stream soon with the cpu I'll see you all next time
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