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thanks gonna be a lot of play so I think Chad's starting to fill up people say videos find sound has too much base kind of comment is that man that's on your end like buy different headphones Oh too much bass bass yeah maybe it's my voice yeah that's your voice just complain about it okay alright so I'm just checking chat to make sure everything's still good I'm looking for people I actually trust the comment I think 10 was in the chat ex devs 10 so so 10 is the guy you might have seen in our videos with Kane pin at the XOC lab in Tijuana EB J's headquarters and if you see him in chat his username as X Deb's and he he's got a lot of experience with overclocking as well obviously and designing video cards yeah chicken clucking chicken clucking as he calls down that's that that's his version of over chicken clucking okay sound is fine stream is Gucci someone says sweet so I think we are good boost the bass all right so let's let's go through what we're working on I guess first of all two quick super chats came in no messages from either of them but API cars Mondavi thank you very much and john be $1 and that I guess will will bring me to talk about how expensive some of this stuff is so this time we actually got I almost got screwed on the liquid nitrogen yeah but these over here so these two tanks are what we'll be using for that that's cold for the liquid nitrogen over clocking and today it's rising tomorrow at the same time tomorrow it will be the kingpin card yep 28 ETA yeah kingpin 28 feet of that one that should be pretty fun so yeah Alan to these 180 liter tanks I want just fatter but this one's had a slow leak because it's damaged but I think we're good yeah these are it almost was $440 eh for these and then the company called back and was like actually we can we can do one hundred seventy seven dollars each plus taxes so I don't know where the 50% discount came in but the cost though to give you an idea it's it's like four hundred and South for 40 for both of these together after taxes and everything the Dewar I think I spent like 600 on that that was a new one because well you just ones are overrated all right up gross yeah you don't want to ever touch a yeah a used Dewar because you never know what has been in yeah it might not have been liquid nitrogen yeah I can be a little something from a fireman hey leave it there yeah so yeah new one was $600 that's that's the taxi pay for getting something that's not gross yeah that gives you some basics on the cost so that being said sponsor for the stream before we really get started is the gigabyte Z 390 master and there's a link to it in the description below so it is and Intel Z 390 motherboard it's got actually a fin the heatsink on it which is something bigger bites been cooking a lot lately with Rison included and you know heat sinks with fins generally a good thing just then they actually do something so there's a link to that in the description if you're interested you mean they're supposed to they they are actually supposed to have surface area to sink the heat did you know that of course I think the manufacturers just learned that Lake in the last year though know is x2 99 that's straight air yeah yeah they really learned it there yeah Roman made a lot of friends that video oh I know that's $2.99 the pastor by other battery there's good stuff so Joe do you want to walk through some of the components we have on the bench yeah I don't know if you want to come over here yeah so obviously we have we're using an AMD 2700 X we actually went through a couple chips not just one we went through three we went to or went through the sign gold one we went through and then two other samples we have we're just using any playing 2d graphic card that's really not what it's about we're using g.skill that tried in xiv oil I got a little bit of gold and silver on this side you can't really see over there but we could hug it and show up and unafraid yeah I wouldn't touch that right now like overclocking superstition of this client well yeah well you have this King ping t-rex this is like an early edition that thing weighs like a ton so yeah he's trying to move it around and Mike you could cause a lot of issues so we have the aegis crosshair was at the 7-7 newer version X 470 yeah it's a it's a really good board it's got a uh upgraded erm compared to the older version it's all around really good board it's done well for us the the CPUs have been our biggest question mark so we'll find out today yeah how far they can really go and I guess on ellentube pi you know we're talking about koster there people always ask how much does it cost to get this stuff you don't have to go as as hard with the components as we've done with some of this but I think Vince sells these for like 3 something like almost $400 maybe yeah I think it said probably around 300 and I don't know if you go to kingpin and Cooling calm you can actually check which one this is not a production model so it's not as pretty yeah the newer versions much prettier than that ones but there are so there and the reason these are expensive they're one and they're low volume so they're not manufactured a lot obviously yeah and - they're really dense it's just like all cop it's a lot of copper so it's like holding like I don't know well most like a bowling ball yeah they're the wing wise yeah it's really heavy if you throw to throw it at Steam you probably never see them anymore so that's nice yeah that's it is I'm just gonna make sure I forget to hold the hose when I turn that one to a later while you're standing next to it you gotta be careful with that when this happened when that happened to me it actually just wouldn't like right across my face like that yeah we we mentioned that in the in the video that went up earlier today to how there's an incident with a glass door previously and gigabyte so an old OC lab they had a too big giant glass doors and let's just say we were really tired and I just flipped it up to get more liquid nitrogen it came out went past my head like this and smashed right into the door the door literally smashed into like a like it smashed all the way around it actually stayed on the glass and then all of a sudden maybe like 10 minutes later the whole thing just fell off and just went everywhere so it's one of my infamous stories but it did probably ventilate the room pretty well oh yeah we didn't have to worry about dying there guys yeah from from Ellen - yes from glass yeah just and maybe from the bosses I think they were pulling glass out of there for probably a good buy still playing Godfather there I think I saw some near - he's like yeah I mean it was it was a big big door so I think we got all the parts we have a 69 watt power supply for this which is overkill what we're doing today but but we like because there's no over current protections no the new array 1600 power supplies are pretty on point yeah hang on which manufacturer you go I mean what does this want to give you a one that is Eva g82 yeah we got some super chats so biking with Pam 50 dollars Canadian thank you very much appreciate that well before I read this I'll note on the super chats because we we start picking up and getting a good amount of them I will run on like a 30 it's a 60 minute delay on reading them but then I read them in batches so if you don't hear it read just wait around a little bit we'll get to it they are extremely helpful and for example paying off the liquid nitrogen I bought and Joe is playing ticket in hotel also never a cheap date that is we've only been to a few fast-food places at this time hey there software engineer with Amazon come out and write the trails I build on Vancouver Island that's pretty cool when you're out for LTX will be there too I've been trying to think of what we could get of what we can get up to together MTB our storage related really well if you're at Elte axe come say hi I'll be there with I think Jay is gonna be there Kyle's gonna be there a couple other people too which one is it that's Linus's event in in Vancouver well he'll be in July I think I kind of July yeah after Computex tag 291 that's you guys what cpu is this and what monitor is that it's this is a 2700 X is that one of yours the 2700 X is that yes that's one of the ones I have so we have to mine it one of yours then one of mine that's the Gold Edition that will thanks we'll talk about in a little bit yeah and what monitors that that's old and this is the gigabyte a horas monitor Corey Schroder $4.99 just bought a mouse pad also hey Joe don't know so thank you for buying the mouse pad if you do pick up one of our mouse pads today this one has thrown paste on it it does not come a thermal paste on it but we have a blue and white and then a black and blue design if you pick one up Joe and I will be signing these at the end of the day after the streams over so if you buy one during the stream on store documents access net we will sign any of them that are purchased during the stream and I might make it easier just extend it cycle later today or something but by during this jam will will sign them and black and blue is the newer one than blue and whites on there as well so thank you for picking one of those up we will get that signed afterward and then also Joe's got some shirts on bearded hardware calm right yep that one right there this shirt actually there's only one shirt yeah but your beard has a beard with this shirt right know that this was that intentional or did you just have to lower the beard so your beard doesn't cover that I had to lower the beard but he keeps growing by the time I'm gonna have that you're gonna have a new vision yeah that's a refresh of the shirt yeah it's kind of difficult driving Coria turns my daughter's can't stay on the stream much today or tomorrow due to being at work both day so I'll encourage you to do more live streams by 3:00 a few dollars well thank you we will definitely do a few more live streams we've got one tomorrow wish bro $2 thermal beers Lee liquid metal improvement update not 100% sure if you mean like do they have a new version or something I actually don't know I have no idea but other than that we've done a lot of liquid metal videos and I think we've concluded all of the ones that we did recently if you had cars $1 thank you Ethan bendable $5 out planting corn watching the live stream doesn't get any better hopefully I have a minute to browse the store well thank you enjoy planting corn enjoy planting corn interesting it is far more far more work than either of us will be doing today all we're gonna do is pour cold liquid into a copper pot that's all you did actually I I probably with you even Westen yeah yes all I'm gonna do is read these and last one I'm reading for that I rob a ninja or a minger $1 no message thank you so let's get started I guess we need to insulate this well not insulate what word would use wrap paper towels around everything okay we need to wrap paper towels around everything when it does get wet we need to protect the board and everything yeah I have Vaseline on the all over the board now but we want to make sure like we try to keep as much water off the board as possible so we're just gonna put paper towels everywhere it might be a little boring but but while we do that we can talk about some other stuff like the the how many people we got in chat right now we have 2700 watching right now not that so you know while you're doing that I think people would be interested to hear about the Lisa sue rise in profits er so I reviewed this one kind of briefly yeah it was like a mini review and all we did was you test it validate that yes it is the same clocks no it's not special and ours was like 4.1 gigahertz at one point for two bolts or something I couldn't get any higher than that on air I tested the same thing yesterday and it was a pretty much like that and 4.1 was kind of borderline yeah it wasn't really it is not a so unfortunately loss to silicon Mondrian that by 2700 does that does so you tested it under Allen - yeah because I guess the question is like is it Bend especially and the answer is I definitely know and he doesn't even claim it is so I can't blame them for it but we were hoping it was yeah well we had edited the three chips that was definitely the worst one yeah what yeah I guess we won't spoil the for yeah we'll talk about that later but yeah it was a bit bit disappointing so unfortunately the scaling was not under better under Ellen - no does that ever happen though I mean do you get chips that are bad on-air but pretty good under Allen - or inevitably some older ones but not so much anymore I was thinking since I'm not really that familiar with AMD no now I am but before I was I was hoping yeah praying that maybe like cuz you know it depends on like leakage no but remember like the old in the video cards like a lot of the crappy ones on air is like you just pump them with voltage and then you get a bunch but the morn what did you give them the they just shut down quicker so right just doesn't really help anything which is kind of disappointing but maybe with the new ones coming out whenever they come out well that will change yeah they are being announced at Computex will both be there there's no am the s said they're announcing our copy thanks actually after doing all this I'm actually excited about it yeah 3000 series should be pretty interesting actually because bend your knees on Colt is actually pretty fun so they charge more for the signature no the mouse pads cost the same so the price on the story you there's you can either buy it's like a set of one mouse pad or two and at the same price that's always been it's just Joe and I will sign it if you buy during the drain stream so you're actually not paying any more for it no I think Joe is 2700 X's Bend is that true one of the questions when I was given them no yeah they were just they even said that right this yeah they said they are not being so it shouldn't be like anything epic or anything right so but we can still push them pretty far because a lot of people every time when you and I to the stream obviously it was in tell ya every time I've done streams I think it's always been Intel CPUs so this is our first time doing a name the overclocking stream no and with liquid nitrogen should be pretty interesting it can go a lot a lot further than with air where with air or with liquid at home you're you know you're really fighting against Andy pushing their chips all the way to the max frequency already yeah they're definitely more fun in liquid nitrogen yeah cuz uneri it seems like you get I don't know how many people have gotten over for three I had one sample that day what about for three yeah I think not many and that one was actually worse than the other one on there but I don't think I really tested that one all that much all right here so yeah and we've we typically our CPUs with the two eighty millimeter coolers they tend to get stock at around 4.2 yeah and then they just fall like yeah you can try to give them as much voltage as possible and they just don't do it and that's not necessarily to say something bad about Andy it means that they've pushed their CPUs to like the max they can do already there's just not a lot you can do out of the box in most cases but with an Onix CPU this is why we typically @gn recommend like 2700 or 2609 acts you do have headroom you can get up to where the exes are and you might be able to get a bit beyond so you can save some money and have fun overclocking it too unless of course you don't enjoy that in which case seen by an expiration so but overall what did they come with stop frequency is it like three seven right Oh a CPU signature not mousepad sorry someone was correcting me on that are they talking about that I think actually although there are some one who said mouse pads really but the CPU signature do they charge more I well one it's not a signature it's like it's a laser edge thing no just has the signature it has the signature by machine yeah I do they I think it is like $30 more but but you also get a couple things with it too yeah so I mean in the review it was our conclusion was basically you know if you're a big AMD fan and you want like a commemorative thing and you know what the commemorative thing it's not really special beyond that beyond maybe getting like the division 2 or a free t-shirt which they do also give then go ahead and buy it but if you don't care about any of that stuff just buy the normal one yeah cuz it is cheaper to get the normal one no I wish I am do either like a little like stepping and you know an Intel when you see new steppings and say like that then you could tell if it's maybe new or maybe write better cuz usually with the Intel stuff you would have the first release and then you'd have another stepping after and they a lot of the times they improve stuff yeah seem like AMD does the same thing yeah and they and they probably should hopefully changes in the future yeah they may well I'm proof but we don't I don't think we get an indication yeah which one version it is yeah if we look at the punch usually on an Intel box you can tell like what batches and stuff until they have serial numbers but I have an older 27 we got rid of all this but yeah they don't give you much detail compared to I can fill those yeah Intel there's a lot of a lot of stuff in changes over here and over the years - so and these kind of I guess on AMD side of thing they've really just gotten back into that controlling position and the you know the DIY market yeah doing pretty well right now I think it caught everybody off guard yes especially Intel I Spy and am caught in the office I think what do we do yeah we're actually good now yeah like what do we do with this money guys yeah I don't know let's police a signature on something so as I as I promote six signed MOUs pass we are self-aware yeah you can get signed house pass from us but they're not laser etched no they're real yeah but also we're not CEOs banned yeah I know sorry all right sorry do you have this all wrapped yeah don't rep you just cover their memory tomorrow you good with that um I don't know they're just - pretty good they're the new G skillet right in Royals our trend is evil sure they are tried in zero right in Z Voyles where I have a gold in silver one like got silver and gold haha see that's what know how to use it well yeah they I guess what covered a little bit because it's barely a vanity thing you just want to see your reflection on these this memory the whole time you really could see you could see the beard I can see it so we might cover the memory okay should I should I pour some Alentejo into the yeah we do before so so we can be fun just to watch him try yeah we felt that that thing is filled from yes filler on top so this is 30 litres so I want to chat do me a favor I might I'll try and catch your matches message but do me a favor and just for the rest of the people in chat go Google how much does Alan to weigh I guess I don't know per liter whatever metric is out the measurement is out there this is 30 liters of it let us know in chat what is 30 liters of L&T weight plus the weight of the Dewar cuz Joe can lift this like chest height pretty easily yeah I'm like stuck here I hope you guys that yes that is a kit so here's the cap for the Ellen's here that that's pretty cold right now it helps prevent it from leaking out because it is a it's it evaporates pretty quickly these will hold it for a good while mono for overclocking but if you leave it out on if you left one of these out I want you to stay overnight well oh yeah it will obviously go out but yeah you'll get ice around the top because it obviously when it escapes it's kind of like the Dewar where it kind of freezes over when you pour and the ISIS is actually concerned I'll let you explain why in terms of getting water and oh so winner yeah when in your pot you don't you don't want ice in there cuz it will actually affect how the metal absorbs the liquid nitrogen so the more water you have in there air ice you'll basically have to break down because you'll start building water into the yeah you basically put her and pull it out pouring water in there it's not good yeah so I'm being told 53 pounds which plus the weight of the Dewar is there whatever way to do it they had me out what 15 pound quite try it 1620 do you want to let's give a a primer on like Ellen to and safety just just to make sure anyone who wants to try this at home is aware so it's actually it's as was bubbling out it was laying on my skin but it doesn't really hurt I think it's called what the leaden who's like lineup rosters manifest yeah so I use my own theory well the way takes Jo I guess the theory name is Jo theory the Jo theory and what is the Jo theory yeah it's just I basically if you soak anything that's when you're gonna run into trouble so you can just pour it like a pour it on Steve's hair so I shouldn't matter now if I were to pour it like all the way and so that's when you're gonna have problems you can basically cause instant frostbite and that's something you don't really want it actually feels like burning yeah it doesn't feel like free of him well if you ever burned yourself it it feels the same exact way if you burn like it you'll get like a big Lister I got a big blister yeah and the blister hurts and it pops it it's pretty much just like fire a technic probably think it's a little bit worse depending on how cold yeah yeah so this liquid nitrogen in that tank is about my top time I had I think it's minus 196 damn s1 is it Celsius degrees Celsius yeah and I'm Fahrenheit right which is like I think 350 Fahrenheit or something like that I have no idea yeah yeah so it's called but you know you don't have to be too worried about spilling on yourself just don't like get it in your pant leg or in your shoe or anything where it gets trapped yeah like socks to like I mean I'm wearing sandals right now which is probably not the best approach but at least I'm not barefoot socks they've soaked very easily so like if you ever like I've had socks before and I've actually accidentally like poured one of these down and I've had the sock on and that's like the worst thing because yeah the sock basically absorbs all the liquid nitrogen and obviously that's on your foot it will hurt yeah I think I think last time the and chat was that one guy was like okay if I get onto and do benchmarking I'm doing it naked for safety but I'm not sure that's the downside of that maybe with sandals at least yeah elite sandals because but no socks even carpet so like if I were to pour it on the carpet the carpet will absorb it yes and then if you step in it then you'll get burned and actually if you I'll show it later when I feel more but if when you get some on the carpet like I did after pouring you step in it you'll see this big gross like Steam Cloud comically cool all right so this entire process makes me nervous there should be more protection and lab protocols here let's let's talk about things like gloves - so normal gloves not a good idea like like just leather gloves you wanna liquid nitrogen gloves I do have something we can show I feel like they're like way over so this isn't much yeah this this is like an Allen T rated glove and if you are like a leather workman's glove if it gets on it it'll freeze it to your skin and that'll be way worse than if your bare hands this it won't freeze to your skin yeah but I feel like it still gets through like when you still get cold well and it's you lose all of your yeah you don't really get the control of it yeah which I think you're morally I don't know I mean we can get into safety measures all day but I think it comes - I'd rather be able to grab it real quick and yeah to do something like I can't I'm more likely to spill it like this well yeah I don't even think I could probably fit I actually can't yeah that's one of the reasons - I don't use them either but so the only place I would maybe use this as if I like for ya workplace afdf I've if I have an employee I'll be me not you cuz I don't care about here yeah and nobody cares about that I might have them usually glove to hold the hose yeah that's the best part that's pretty much what I I would to be honest I wouldn't even use those I just wrap it around like this yeah right and then just hold it that way paper towel because then you have more interaction with your hands you don't know this does get really cold though yeah so I don't recommend touching touching that because you will burn your hand yeah and then other safety I mean you could wear goggles I guess but we're not really we're in a pretty controlled environment here we're not using a ton of it so yeah I mean the the real safety measure that you got to really worry about is your ventilation right so we're in a big room right now we don't have much of an issue when it comes to that and they cease running yeah and the a/c is running so you're always having something moving through if you're in like a small room it will actually take the oxygen out of the air and you can pretty much die you will die yeah well yeah I mean I haven't died personally obviously but yeah yeah I came back you came back well yeah actually you did your attempt to use the trick you were showing earlier is can you light a torch right yeah so you know if you're losing oxygen because of a fire boom light so if you if you can't do the torch that means you need to get to maybe go outside or try to get some air in the room that you're in right doesn't mean done that yeah again at the Gigabyte OC level so let's uh let's get started let's dirty yeah I need more liquid nitrogen this probably any more than one all right yeah you get started do one cop and then stop I don't know how lame do you want to be alright I'll let you get started and I'll pour some more of these if you want to maybe maybe uh let people know what your process is here I come on I'm just gonna get it up on air I I have just a like a baseline setup right now where it's just doing about four gig 3610 rate just do the CL 1212 it's just basic watch that I know work on there I don't want to go too cold too quick I want to make sure that the whole system is actually running before I try to go it's getting really cold because when you're going really cold it's a big variable that you're gonna if your system is not working quickly you're just gonna be just in trouble the whole time so all right we're in the BIOS let's make sure we can go in the operating system I'll check a couple super chats while I pour some more of these you're all right it's a quick note like I said if you buy mousepad I'll try and shout them out too if you buy something from store that gamers Nexus dotnet during the stream no guarantee but I'll try to shout out your your first name of what you bought and otherwise if you buy a mask that the they are links below in the description then Joe and I will be signing them after the stream today it's no extra cost on that so we will be sending those out as soon as we get them signed and then Joe's got shirts on here the hardware calm as well so let's see super chats we got a new one from a tactical burrito system it's kind of an awesome thing I just smile and actually I'm very impressed sounds like it's like a mercenary company except it's just for burritos tactical burrito system $10 thank you says thanks for blowing up hardware so we don't have to Joe what's the last you know what's the last thing you blew up there doing this it's the last component you killed it's been a while actually oh no I think it was at the end too event oh yeah whenever we'll have a couple I dropped motherboards then New York yeah yeah yeah you had your I came over actually you were switching boards because I think they were was that they were just too much condensation on that well the one board so I was benching with the one board pretty much all day the day before and then what happened was is I have this weird tip that no matter how cold I get it they just it would just always free so I'm like okay so I started pumping a bunch of volts to it on the Intel it was there a little bit different yeah you basically need certain bowls for me to go cold just even be a little cold right I pumped this one voltage I forget exactly which one it is because on different boards it's a different name but when I pumped that voltage the board died and of course I was like probably like 10 minutes before we were supposed to get everything going all right have it up for demo so I ended up having to take that board I ended up taking a new board and just putting no insulation on it whatsoever and sort of that that's when he came over yeah let's talk what frequency are you at right now I did four gig okay 3600 M okay so that's our baseline then yep so four is it four gigahertz all four yeah okay I'll core so eight core taking bread let me take a note then just so we can read back this later we're at 18 39 points our benchmark today of choice is Cinebench it's one of Andy's favorite benchmarks to char right now so we're gonna use that because you're probably familiar with the numbers so our score today starting as 1839 as we continue it'll become clear like how much scaling there is and we can go stock if you want to do you owe me a do-over yeah you if you don't mind let's do a like a stop your promos we're kind of cold dome if we can get a stop running we can show you only front with that is I think maybe if it's cold that worried better than it was I have a stock run I can pull from our fridges if you only just pull one out it doesn't matter I can do it pretty quickly okay let's run one then so we'll get a stock run for you but 1839 is where we're starting what was the current high score do you remember for this chip 2,700 X it's like 20 27 35 degree something like that I think I would but that's had like five seven yeah so current high scores just to give you an idea of scale it's like 1839 at 4 gigahertz all core of the 2700 so there's your range and I think it's hardware numbers hole to that one right now so uh see Todd's Rob minger again $2 see you've ever ride the trails in copper Harbor Michigan no actually I have not ridden the Northeast's at all I do need to get up there and write like I'm not even sure I'd call that North East oh oh yeah sorry central North I'm thinking yeah good fine but I have not ridden north of West Virginia or yeah West Virginia is the highest I've gone on the East Coast really yeah you should go much higher so your insulation mountains are pretty good yes I know that uh Diablo and New Jersey's supposed to be pretty good or whatever they renamed Mountain Creek that's it there's just no word there did you really yeah all done was it called Diablo or Mountain no no it's Mountain Creek I actually worked there when I was kid really yeah I was fun because I was a part of the snowboard no I never I couldn't afford a snowboard when I was kids so I basically got a free rental take there and I would just basically go every almost every day that's pretty awesome so awesome that is cool Phoenix 1861 199 thank you reply vid to Paul's review no hi I'm Paul there was a satire of you there's there's no reason to post anything else because I think his satire pretty much summed it up I did like the reference to he'd like for movie references in there when he was doing the like the the segment where he had the timer in the bottom right and was just kind of like droning on through stuff they're pretty good that was that was the best media impression I've seen so far I don't know I think I could do better I think you can do better I think I could by failing to lifts that you were probably on I need a wig though my hair's not as long as yours Jay has a pretty good way doesn't yeah he was wearing one for the rip Jay wha remember to lift with your back on a twisting motion right it's not you're supposed to do yeah that's what they say when do I listen to that now okay don't worry Joe I got it you're sure yeah don't hurt yourself I'm using my leg can't get it up with my arms I can go so many ways with that one Atta he weighs $50 SEK Swedish Krona I guess Carbonite review when smiley face tell Roman to send his stuff over to me he um he told me Roman just recently said they're sending some carbonado over so if that's true it should get here from Germany maybe this week was that the little sheets yeah didn't answer their the some yes see ya and the first one he gave us it got a little bit of a tear in it from us handling it on camera so much so I don't really want to use it the tasks because it's kind of damaged you know it's like a thin sheet so you're not really meant to mess with a bunch so I'm waiting on that to come in but yeah we're waiting on him Douglas Robinson I'll read the normal chats in a second will it go Douglas Robinson to dot put up a timer for the next super cherry I can't predict that well sorry but I got you worried thank you for the support much appreciated that'll pay for part of the liquid nitrogen lyric $10 will we perhaps get an extra lawn mod mat style mousepad something like keyboard mouse breakdown to be cool I yeah so it is in our plans it's something we've been minions work on more for a while now so we'll eventually get to that for sure all right let's take a break on those what do you have over here 1848 is that I think is on the high side okay I'll load up the nice defaults so it's okay it might be a just a little bit it's an eye higher it's higher than we did before yeah let me just make sure that it actually well you've got um yeah we're also super cold it's not super cold but minus ten colder than you would have if you're running it actually stuck for sure yeah yeah what's happened is it's boosting yes XFR although this is an all core we load but I just put a load optimize the folks okay that's basically with you but it's at minus ten degrees yeah so obviously you're gonna you're sub-zero also there's some variants are under on the Cinebench to like oh yeah that's a big variance though you could tell by its boostin yeah so about forty to forty right now yeah and I was at for a gig so mine should actually be lower yeah this one's technically higher under all core yeah so there's xfr I don't know let's hit hit run on that I'm a CPU bench I forget what the ball court turbo is okay yep so it's like 140 mega Hertz higher all core Wow assuming that's reading all core accurately so that makes sense yeah anyway baseline is 1840s points 1848 1839 my brother what's first overclock setting gonna be um well I gotta go I'm gonna get cold okay so what I'm gonna do is set my reset my profile again yes it went down that's because cpu-z is open so what do we do is it just reboot and then go back on the BIOS yeah I usually unplugged SSD cuz that way it will go right into the BIOS instead of me having to go yes and potentially messing it yeah what should that also gets frustrating when you've got a cold Allen teapot on there yeah when you're really cold that's like biggest pain in the butt because if you don't if you miss it and then it goes in you can mess something up right especially when you start pushing memory timings and stuff because with memory it you can actually mess up your operating system forgetting tenez talking trash right now he always talks trash what else is doing uh chicken clocking he says 40 minutes in life and still only - NC well let's bring it up then okay let's let's get it movin let's go to shut ten hop that's pretty easy to do ten by the way if anyone wants to see who we're talking about ten is in our in our lab tour with kingpin that was actually really good video he talked to his section of the lab is pretty cool build Zords in chat builder it says AC occasionally does liquid helium benchmarking for very short benchmarks I think is talking to some of the other people in chat all right so I guess how's how's it feel joy you got pressure yeah you have ten in there judging yeah it's a different from normal air well he does that all the time you know many cars he's fixed for me that I broke all right so he he's the one that can actually bust my you know what as much as he was because he's fixed a lot of stuff for me too he loves to fix stuff for me I want to know what I used to break it all the time of it what do you know normally breaks there's that Alton so I break everything by what on the card do you know I like to be blowing up a VRML okay stuff like that yeah I'm getting shorts cuz I knew something stupid all right you know all right there's not paying attention or slacking really hard all right so let's pull down -25 try to keep this set up what voltage are you at right now oh I think 145 okay I'm just doing this I want this system running what I'm bringing it down yeah not everything it gets cold and I should mention that too so yesterday we were talking about when you were pre testing the cards on air and how you were running I might like one point four or three or something yeah this is about 1:45 yes and then uh load line of three and that's just for figuring out how well the CP is due before committing to liquid nitrogen yeah so just you know general safety no don't like reboot your home system and set it to one point four three volts if you don't have any serious cooling on it and also for long-term use it's probably not very good for the chip yeah I could do grade but so be careful with the you know be careful with copy and the numbers you see today I guess yeah I always take it with a grain of salt I mean we're that much lower temperatures but yeah it's good just kind of good to iterate stuff - yeah disclaimer right yeah see - fifty let's see oh it's chats and don't drink the nitrogen by mistake I'm phone's down in a couple times cuz I like to either have like a little bit of whiskey or like a beer or something and like there's a couple times where I'll be like yeah anybody see that I know okay here's a question for you vexed in the normal chat says does Ellen team conduct electricity what would happen if you poured it on the motherboard um to be honest not much it depends like there's certain components that might not like it so probably it could shut off potentially a if it is an honor is it off I guess let's do the basics first is uh Joe in the beginning of the stream did wrap paper towels around everything so that's step one step two is there's actually even if we took all this off you've still got a pretty thick layer of Vaseline on the board yeah and that's also to prevent it from making direct contact well it's really to prevent the water that drips off the sides for making direct contact with the board it's also to make sure it like it tries to soak up any water because everything gets cold so yeah technically the board is getting cold but you don't want any condensation to build up and start pulling so here's otherwise I think it will cause shorts that's actually why we have this fan here too because yesterday without the fan here it was just you know it just kind of plumes up over the top and as all of this Ellen to remnant falls down onto the memory yeah we were getting the memory we were basically frozen they looked really cool but and they looked functionality yeah but it did it there's actually a photo on our community YouTube community page where you can see some of the like the BRM heat sinks are all frozen over yeah so anyway yeah we always need that freezing pick it looks cool but it's also dangerous at the same time you can kill components especially as it turns to water primarily yes sir I see you okay that's good it does not conduct electricity though it will also evaporate basically instantly I mean like you'd have to soak the board and even if you soak the board it's not going to kill it motor like if it's on it could cause issues certain components might not like it but I highly doubt it would kill it ready Andrew free fresh shot sup further back back here okay I'm just gonna spill some on the floor you can see like how quickly it evaporates so it's gone I mean that's that's how fast it is like you can kind of get it out of the the carpet for a second but right there right here do one more so how about like right here is that good so yeah there's there's your demo looks cool but it's not like it's water it doesn't it doesn't cool there it just goes away right away and I guess if you kind of think like it's you know minus 196 degrees Celsius room temperature is like 21 so it's gonna evaporate pretty quickly alright so we're actually much better now - 110 I'm just gonna keep pulling down go fully cold what's our baseline both yeah what's our target temperature do you know what that trip will handle yeah full bar okay so minus 190 whatever yeah minus 196 yeah we're at 155 volts with one two on the SOC and then just 180 on do you RAM I'm not pushing Ram at the moment we're gonna see how how high we can go the ratio is at forty right set up to about five B okay yeah tens gonna make more fun of you if you if you don't go faster funny part is like when's the last time he benched me AMD well he works out EVGA I know that's the major question yeah that's right Tim I should get a we should get 10 out here sometimes tenure you're welcome to fly out if you ever make it over here maybe you're in California from Taiwan anyway get-get Jake with the bookie a flight over here we'll do a stream together he'll be fun you should come over builds I'd to also welcome us of course it all right so enrollment last time we were on the stream room and said he wanted to come out here because he was talking trash - there you go he's talk strat and then I said I told him you know why don't you come out here and and then you can still beat me but at least it'll be a person be on our stream what happened he didn't do it exactly she just saying all right we're in about minus 130 so I did a run at 5:00 gig so if you wanted the score is 22 okay let me take a note of that then so 22:78 that's at 5g and then you had the original ones at 4 gigahertz and then we had one that's full stop okay so then let's do a quick percent increase here 22:78 new score versus eight eighteen forty-eight for the sock this is about a twenty three percent improvement no and there's some tweaks and stuff that you could do that make it better but we didn't really do that during the first one so we're not tweaking we just want to see exactly kind of what a default one who do that's pretty one-to-one actually it's roughly the same percent improvement recent clock speed to sport increase Cinebench scales really cleanly now the one thing that's interesting on Windows 10 so apparently if you be clock it changes the time right mm-hmm so we can't really do any B clock changes okay which is kind of weird but well I'm the Intel you're used to doing B clock to gain an advantage yeah we end up getting a timer skew okay I'm not sure if it happens on Windows 7 but yes Windows 10 it definitely happens so think question is a builds words in chat builds or do you know of a way around that around the timer skew issue well it was supposed to be either synchronous or or a synchronous tonight it happens at both okay with the synchronous mode it basically it's way worse than regular okay so he by the way builds I was just talking with chat he said he said he had it he went all the way to 1 point 8 5 volts on that's 2700 X I think it's just answering questions about yeah edge but and then 10 says I think we might do something in the summer I think he's referring to Evy Gia's birthday coming up in July looks like I remember xx there's not that 18 yeah they're located in Kelly like everybody out there yeah builds or it says Windows 7 is safe no I'm gonna test that I've seen Windows 7 when people say well Windows 7 is fine for the time right hmm we're on win time yeah we're out my den so let me get a couple of the store reads and and super chat so let's see the store stuff first I'm just gonna read a couple of these orders I can't get them all but Andrew from Michigan picked up the mousepad thank you and you're picking that up I've also got an Andrew behind the camera who deserve some credit for dealing with us for it will be three days by them's not as easy as you think there's not easy we have Johan from Sweden picking up the mouse pad as well thank you Johan we have a Samuel from Spain picking up a mousepad let me get a couple more here and then Stefan from Germany man they're all over the world that's pretty cool that's awesome guys thank you for tuning in from everywhere and then we've got one more all right here we have a BA from the Netherlands also got a mousepad thank you so like I said if you buy knives are in the stream we will assign them at the end of the stream today and get them shipped out to you as soon as we can't do it brought in a couple big boxes of them so we've got them all here and then super chats see we have I got lurk Joe $0.99 no message thank you Joe unexpected at 1441 is that sorry ha ha ha ok help myself in that I hunt expect it at 1440p 20 euros Thank You mr. odden seems interested for LTX just got home from work in time for the line of shame yeah what was my invite I don't know July is kind of a tough month for me anyway you see after competition I I would like to I was telling - that I'd like to get some kind of overclockers after they'd like liquid nitrogen Booton cuz that's it's always a cool show yeah it's always great for show yeah everybody seems to like seeing all the liquid nitrogen flowing by yeah like to talk about it not really something you can work with every day yeah it's gotten though 4500 people watching by the way handsome rude what's up guys bill joy says Steve forgot to close the clap the cap on the door it's not a big deal replying to someone else no no pic wow it's because people are spamming chat saying close the lid yeah so they those people saying that probably remembers the last time when I was like so last time big difference from this time last time Joe and I by the time we started the stream we had spent the whole day prior doing Alan taper have we the problem was the tank we got from the company that delivers the tanks was leaking and I don't know if you'll be able to hear this but I'm gonna move my mic over here and hear that so that's kind of the sound of the week it's it's louder than person obviously but they are supposed to leak to an extent we one sec we talked about this in the video we put up this morning they are supposed to leak to an extent so it doesn't explode yeah you don't want to but but it's not supposed to leak like constantly especially high volumes because this tank is actually damaged it's got dents all over any small movement will like rock the inner chamber yeah you can hear it as soon as you just moving it just a little bit and make that in faint noise yeah and so last time we had a similar tank except it actually arrived like at least 30% like was gone yeah aren't even got off the truck to us and so the reason I was so serious about closing the lid last time is cuz all we had was the authority leaders I mean trying to conserve as much of liquid nitrogen as we can because we were basically on a losing battle with keeping it yeah but this time we have one full tank over there which we'll probably use for the kingpin card tomorrow and whatever's left in this one over here so we're not as concerned this time the last time it was like if we don't if we don't stop doing prep now we're not even gonna have a stream yeah so it was pretty serious last time yeah wasn't fun for me and they only deliver this company only delivers on Thursday so he wouldn't have been able to get more all right so we're pretty much full hot now nice make sure it's running all good well that burned a little bit I had my hand to touch enough the exposed metal part of the handle and always if you ever seen the other ones I had a couple of these that I had they're like little metal handle on them they'll burn you all the time like oh grandma but uh yeah so we have the actual we have the kingpin cooling heater under here too so that way would like we can bench longer so we can live stream you bench because it's the when we're at and pretty much minus 196 the whole setup will get quite cold and yeah basically useless after a little bit yeah that's what's keeping our system pretty much alive right now so someone I was roaming in here where's Roman someone said their powers in here too there is a saw a message from Roman Roman what are you gonna come out here no he said just joining them to see Joe Bell right lovey Roman he's really a nice guy when he wants to be he thinks oh he thinks he is he thinks he's just wait till I see you at Computex buddy yeah well no he's good at something cuz it's taken I'm like 3 months to ship me a package so oh that's normal come on and I'm trying to review your stuff man gonna carbonite that's right so and you're invited out here still but we might visit you at a visit you at caseking or something that's a cool place actually oh yeah um it's been a while now I see every year in a half ago no yeah about a year and a half ago yeah it's a very cool place that's like hardware heaven right there in Germany yeah in Berlin mr. I'm not sure if they have a bunch of other places but that's definitely a cool place to go highly recommended it will do it for sure next maybe for around games town or something you got Raven Okin says do you accept donations other than super chat not available in my country really I didn't know that super chat was limited by country what country of them yeah what country is it I'm curious and patriotic I just had to turn on a u.s. proxy and halted it when it requests to PayPal all right here that about that we do I think a request PayPal - we do have another way it's on stored I can rataxes done that you can scroll all the way down now I I would rather you if you're like gonna donate to us through the store we'll get all the money so it's better technically than other donation methods but we do like super check this we can read your messages but if you can't do super chat the store does have a donate feature if you're going that far I'd rather you like buy a sticker or something that way you get something in return but hopefully that works for you I think it if you get a mousepad cuz then we can sign it yeah he could do that even cooler do that for sure I will sign the mousepads if you buy them during the stream but if you're trying to donate less than than that you're trying to donate 5 bucks I think we have stickers on there for on that price but ok I mean let me see what Roman saying Rowan says who shots fired sorry that's what that's for sure did you any expect anything less come on now so we had someone asking are we up 5 gigahertz yet and they oh we were at 5 already yeah yeah I mean we're pretty much ready to run so let's let's run some more what's what's your next step well what's cool so since in Windows 10 I can't do any V clock what's really kind of interesting about AMD is that we can actually go up in quarter clause yes so instead of like just 50 we can go up to 50 25 so we'll just go out well we'll do what Tim calls checking clocking which he which he's really good at by the way Computex all the time is that because he's afraid afraid to commit to a big overclock I think so yeah yeah I think it's just too much for me I don't know if he can handle it yeah yeah it's really unfortunate you know he's more of an engineer not really so scared yeah 10 is a maximum engineer that if you have like I said earlier if you haven't seen it check out our lab for because he's got some really cool stuff in that lab it's like have you ever been to their lab recently it's expanded I don't think the new one I've been to a woman I think the old one a couple years ago maybe yeah so the it was expanded a little this time when we went versus a couple whenever we went a couple years ago and tins got his own section of the lab that's like loaded with all the scopes and all that stuff and then kingpins got his overclocking coroner which one you're eating yeah I was just the one Joe you want more pours Ellen to motherboard groans in pain and pleasure sorry that one up awesome x times 10:10 says too old for overclocking now yeah yeah yeah too old for overclocking let's all that great Harry's gonna strum all the overclocking probably one cause that is true yeah I have like a little patch somewhere I think like right around here and that's from overclocking with Tim all right so 50:25 we're gonna go up we'll just do some chicken clucking okay well kind of one by one 22 you're at 2288 450 25 55 288 okay got it so then now we're gonna do 5050 married super chat over here if I already go all the way to the top then we wouldn't have anything there live stream come on guys yeah we go well also we're gonna run into issues at some point anyway natural nor a Rivera $2 Thank You nori says shout out to my bestie from Tampa who was it oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah buddy he asked me if he could be my best friend in the air and I was like sure takes I've been trying for a while now you know my best friend Wow Dan okay thank you I think Andrew burger boy is Andrew here behind the camera [Laughter] Corey Schroeder 999 I found on my personal 2,700 axe the overclocking past for 20 gigahertz on a crosshairs 6 extreme was identical to my crosshair 7 hero no difference for me with manual Oh see ya on the 2700 X once you find that limit it's pretty much the limit you get kind of stuck yeah you kind of get stuck I've noticed it like on the two chips I tested one did for three and it wasn't going anyway above that and then when I tested your chip on there too and yours was like locked on for one yes i man that gold edition' ship was yeah I don't have a gold sample by buying the other board I don't think it's gonna gain you too much because even with the vrm I noticed on on this one that if you have the LLC set that three I think five is the top it liked it more than I like five hmm so having a V remember I don't think it's gonna gain too much unless you're on liquid I program so on the air water I don't think it's gonna buy you too much unless it well for memory clocking it will yeah you get other features of course but yeah definitely you you will be limited by the CPU that's so much true with Intel as well you can buy better and better boards but if your CPU soft something yeah it's more about cooling on when it comes to the CPU yeah you can't just make the CPU better yeah you might be able to like on mine when I was at 4.1 at whatever insane voltage it was I could have gotten a little higher if I drove the temperature down which I could have done with like a bigger radiator maybe an open-loop but the thing is with it's just good for me is to be honest on Intel you can actually gain from the vrm the number one will run cooler but you couldn't gain a little bit of percentage just by the LLC because if you set up a higher LLC it's gonna push a little bit more on the v RM and you might be able to get a little bit more other chip than you would on it on a cheaper board right but it's not gonna be anything much maybe like maybe 50 to 100 mega Hertz yeah don't expect like you know don't hurt you know yeah don't expect that going from like a $500 board to a $600 board is gonna make her break and I see on a bad chip or something did you uh mark the score for do that 5050 what is it 22 98 22 98 okay so we're getting like 10 actually it's exactly 10 each time so consistent 5 gigahertz was 22:78 50 25 was 2288 50 50 was 22 98 and then for those who are just tuning in stock originally with no modifications other than cold which is a mod but yeah the mod but there was a 1848 for that one so we're over 20% increase at this point that is true what um are you doing anything special with your OS and have you stripped down obviously we're not connected to internet so that's this one is not really stripped down I kind of wanted more just for kind of what an average person would get usually with like when we bench and I'll strip out everything but what kind of usability is that so yeah like although you get rid of the services for yeah this one is kind of like I would say just optimized more than anything I mean there's not much to it so you know windows version you're on that's a good question 18 though or something there's a system this is 1809 1809 okay and we are on a 2700 x one of Joe's samples we read a couple of these we got a let's see it chair chair it on the tech thanks for great content quick question can you expect better overclocking with a 4790k on a higher-end board like a Maximus hero versus something like a PCI mate I don't really remember those the board's facts on those from the 4790 era but less 790 but that was basically uh z97 I think so yeah so z97 the better boards were I mean I would expect better clock so I mean it would it's the same thing versus I mean it's a long time ago yeah they're 40 I don't let's say let's modernize the question it's similar to the last one so we modernize the question if you buy like $120 like cheapest to z3 90 board you can get today versus no no maybe like $200 one there does start to be an appreciable difference in the VRI yeah but I think if you don't go anything z97 in the first place then you can overclock right oh I'm talking I like Z modern like z3 92 okay yeah well you're gonna have I mean the CPU you could probably get up there but you're gonna have to use a lot more volts on the cheaper board if it's gonna run hot yeah it's gonna run hot and it's probably not gonna be over a probably won't last as long to be on yeah yeah capacitor lifespan is on some of those and younggren definitely not gonna gain memory performance either and memory is is a big deal actually oh yeah big time yeah and builds I'd he's been in chat as actually hardcore overclocking builds Wade has done he did is he 390 round up for us if he did want to look at the modern version of that questions is I don't remember his e97 with that well so I think he's guys eat 390 on our channel from like Christmastime December you can check that out he's got a great roundup of like actual overclocking differences between them I'm gonna do one more question here lamb or Lomb Pilon 25 thank you no message Joshua Bell $2 just curious do you guys do local pickup on merch no we do not the distribution center is is here but we would still ship it out though Adam Schumann's senior $5 seen you before thank you for coming back why does rise and not OC well as well as Intel well you got to figure Intel if you have what nothing you have the 9900 K before that you had the 8700 K before that you had the 7700 game yeah or that you had the 67th game yeah really oh they're all immolating yeah they're all really the same so if they're not getting better over a period of time like they're doing something wrong but they have been introducing the maturity level on their process is just really really really good AMD came out with Rison and what that's a 2nd gen over Aizen is that like really this is kind of more about so yeah so what we're on is like like we might a man do you know it yeah it's like 1.5 so then there it's kind of confusing because there's rising and then the number and the others N and then the number they're not the same yeah so like it is n 2 is what's coming out of Computex but then there's I feel like it was n plot rising plaza and plus something like that but it's we're on the middle step yeah that wasn't so the maturity level hasn't been that no it's only been out it hasn't been that long two years dad you gotta figure when did the 6700 case like a long time it feels like let's see I was doing events would Intel for the 7,700 day and you had 8700 kids June 2015 yeah so you're talking about four years ago yeah so Rosen's only hasn't been out that long so that's why I like when the newest rising comes out it's most likely gonna be better so the more and more you let it go and they the more as more as they optimize the process that's when things are gonna get better and also Intel does they're a bit more conservative on their clocks for a few reasons but AMD pushes there's pretty close to the limit already what you can look at two ways like one it's actually really good for the end user because you don't really have to do any work to get the maximum performance you can of the chip you do a little bit but the other way is there's not a ton of overclocking Headroom unless you start going really cold yeah and we are at currently 50 75 so five five gigahertz drivers 23:08 through literally ten points yeah that's probably the most stable archive do you have everything that is actually really impressive yeah so consistently ten point increases with 0.25 yeah so let's go up again five one so at five point one gigahertz off core what let's talk about the voltage is a bit so where are you set right now for the core the core I think is one six okay to be honest I was benching a lot and one five five to like one six was pretty good like I mean after that it seems like if you would need any more voltage and your kana at max clocks you have to pump it to like one eight nine eight five and that that's basically loss of scale so it's probably not benefiting you much maybe on some we had that one ship I don't know if it was this one but we had one where you were good like all the way up to 50 400 or something like one point five five or one point six and then after that it was like yeah that's when it stopped scaling so like if you have little increments of voltage up from your clocks that that's kind of like we judge this scale right now if you go from like say five one two five two and you need like a huge jump that means it's problem oh s--- likely not gonna do right so I call it loss of scale alright so we actually broke our consistency and we're at 23 2150 okay 51:23 21 and we got a question in the normal chat the vet says is the IHS lab not on this one no I didn't have time to be honest I think it would benefit we should try it sometime not now I think I don't want to sound the CPU for the what we could for hours yeah we did the problem with AMD CPU is that the like the pins on the back yeah makes older it makes it very difficult to be able to handle it but I I laugh every chip that I have usually usually enough so I'd probably take this chip and laughing I want to laugh this one yeah the gold edition with the signature on it maybe we should do that you got a flat surface you got any glass we can definitely find one we're usually what I do we need is a tape like so you take those sandpaper sheets you duct tape them and then just go in a figure eight yeah and just keep doing it like Vince is spinning discs yeah that's cheating he also has a ten - which is not fair that's him real men do with their own modding yeah and then it's just you just tend to do his money I was like but no well yeah of course yeah you seem to like given mister dunsky some crap always it's my job so he got see oh no I went away he goes from nori there was Ryan nori Rivera $10 some mountain dew baja blast funds thank you for the $10 I think Jones Pauling to use it for Red Bull funds through after today and then shoutout to you Richie c77 dear Steve please encourage Joe to make more videos we didn't agree that was coming up we need more Florida boys on the interwebs definitely coming I think you should just rear and your channels Florida man Florida man no real Florida oh yeah Florida man overclocks our eyes I don't know that may have issues with Agnello there I think they're supposed to be a show like that yeah so there might be like it stated there'll be food I'll be slacking too much the trying to see them back all right 50 125 is 23:36 okay 51 so five you notice the this trailing scores going up 23:36 okay yes you are correct so from five one interesting so that's trife could go up a little more Scotty $5 hi I'm currently running and a TD 600k at 5.2 gigahertz it's not bad on an ek constant water cooling loop at one point four five volts well this hurt the CPU over time so 1.45 I don't know it's hard just it's hard to really say I mean I've run I've run the same and never had an issue and then others have and but you never know there's so many variable there's other voltages don't know what voltage is you're setting you don't know what VRM you're using compared to another so there's a lot of variables to justify it I would say I would be fine most likely I think the biggest points of concern are going to be things like on AMD you have to be really careful with SOC voltage so where are you right down at one point two one two one two one two should be good um even on that air for benching I wouldn't say daily you try with daily I would try to keep all the men or all the voltages down low memory is kind of finicky um yeah so there's a lot of times I have to hit the retry button so to get even to go depending on the chip some chip chips will go fine other chips might not boot every single time yeah they hit the retry button a couple times so so yeah be careful of that so see on AMD IO and si on Intel you have to be careful with those too careful with those and it's funny too but some chips will actually go really high and some chips won't go that I so light and a lot of the time what you'll see with those types of voltages is degradation of like the IMC over time for example so on Intel so you might not even know that you're causing damage to it I told maybe six months or a year later you can't hold this clocks anymore you have to be careful on some boards because even if you said Auto depending on what memory you said it will actually automatically overclock your i/o and arrow say well we've had a revolt them yeah we've had some old boards actually where auto they would set V Corps like full 100% Auto is that beat course like one point four yeah which is like and I remember testing that board and it could hold the same clocks at like one point one eight to one point two yeah and they're all so you had all these people saying like Intel this I think there's a Sony semadar K is so hot but actually it was the motherboard like blasting the voltage under Auto yeah a lot of times you I mean Auto is kind of nice though sometimes can you kind of get an idea but then you could go anytime you do Auto I would say said to start with Auto find out what it is and then back off and see if you can get away with the same value yeah that's usually what I like doing that's a yeah that way you're not trying to pump a lot of voltage that you just don't eat right so you try to go with the least amount did I tell you this one Oh 5150 5150 I think I got that what is the spore 2330 thick okay yeah I got that okay so let's go we can fill a store up I think pretty soon have you gone through yeah it's halfway there's chicken clucking so that term 51 75 what's our score gonna be 23:53 23:53 okay pretty interesting once we hit a certain o'clock that were kind of doubling the score now what was 51 50 was twenty three thirty three twenty three thirty six I already cut that was our 5125 score as well unless I recorded it incorrectly and then 51 75 was 23:53 okay let's uh let me go through some of the parts over here on the bench so stuff we have I guess we'll do the bench components first video card is just a 1050 yeah it's we're not really worried about the video cards and we're actually in is it Jen Hwan PCI yeah all Jim one so AMD has issues with anything that's higher than I think Jen - I think Jen 3 is the problem so you won't be able to go full code full cold meaning you won't be able to go to minus 196 you're probably only go to be able to be able to go to minus 130 so yeah we're and we need that to be able to get the highest score possible we need that cold scale yeah and we're just only focusing on CPU today anyway so if you missed it earlier Allen teapot this is a kingpin t-rex and if you did want to get into this stuff he sells these on kingpin : calm him and then the memory you've got tried NZ Royals yeah thanks the the 4k bin so I think the CL 17 yeah what are you running that out again 3,600 3,600 but this is AMD obviously do you know what your timings are see how I feel actually bring them up there so bring up the timings for you all the motherboard is across here seven I bought this for Joe actually you're having trouble get anyone from ACS in a timely fashion and then the power supply is 1600 watt chip off your timings yeah so we're basically doing 12 12 12 24 or 51 1t okay cool so there's a base the which is pretty good it's I would say an average with our 15 you don't really need to me too hard sometimes it doesn't like it and go have a negative effect I was trying to see if we could maybe show a shot in the Ellen teapot of the liquid nitrogen it might be kind of cool coming out dark you can get a get a light in there and then I'll do it after you fill it next time your meter turned off yeah that's good yeah there's no much in there yeah and just hit the button otherwise I forget to leave it on and yeah every day so so let's did I do the 50 to run 2050 yeah we got that oh yeah that was 52 also no no no no I don't think I really didn't run it yeah I think I said it and then that's probably what we did with the other one yeah and I would like to next time we fill that Ellen teapot warned me and we'll get a camera shot down on it so people can see code up now I'm Owen let's give Andrew a second to come over here okay can you how close can you roll in should always roll on the rails I guess but it might be a little bit much you can't really get over it give us one second guys we're gonna try and get you a shot into the onto pot okay hold this okay got him so I'm just holding the receiver is for the Hobby right now and who's gonna try and look the camera pan we're gonna try and not lose audio what's that okay ready so can we pass me that flashlight can you see that okay Andrew you need a better light okay so here's an Allen - poor sorry for the shake and just holding it over his head and you can see it starts burning off pretty quickly so actually alone let me run this to cuz then you could see it actually burned it's the only thing burning right now is Andrews arms that's difficult that's right we'll give them a burger later okay that's good shot yeah there you go so you can see that Ellen tears like boiling in there literally well alright boiling shots are was good yes looks pretty cool hey we're gonna remount the camera just one second hold that for me okay just come on this side of the rails are behind it okay I'll hold it there got it thank you I'll get this one so that's the Alan teapot where you can see it boiling off thank you and other stuff we use so other than the bench components there's a torch someone asked earlier about this question was why do you use the torch for you want to take that one yeah well it's basically since we're going really cold there's a lot of the time depending on what you bench you need to heat up so the easiest way to heat up I mean you could use like a hairdryer or a heat gun but the preferred method is to actually use a torch so that's what we use to heat it up because it will heat it up rather quickly so if we used it a lot yesterday yeah and so you had two things you were doing yesterday we can shop more equipment here when so I guess one of the problems we ran into was some of that frost on the ellentube containers over here the Stanley Cups over here would over time just kind of fall into the pot and then you end up pouring water into the pot and then heating up and it also basically turns the water yeah it happens eventually in every pot after a period of time so yeah and so Joe had a setup where you were taking this cardboard box and called that hot box usually yeah usually what I do is I put it on so when the system is done you obviously you see there's a lot of condensation that's building up on the side and it's icing up well when everything's done we need to get rid of that so one of the ways I do is I call this the hot box I'll put a cardboard box on the top and I'll take a hairdryer on it and I'll just sit it and let it run for about 10 minutes and it'll basically heat up the whole system it's kind of like putting it in the oven in the way right and taking these steps to I'll help make sure you don't kill components yeah that's that's the trick what I mean you don't want to keep water on the components so we're stressing them enough so you want to try to keep your components alive as possible yeah insulation is a big thing to do for that and instead of a hair a hair dryer we're just using a heat gun yesterday and Joe would basically stick that right in there went through the cargo box and heat it up yeah you just got to be careful like I wouldn't want to do it now because I don't want to create more water in there right we're trying to keep it alive as long as possible to show you guys as much as possible so you're currently out 50 to 50 so 5.25 gigahertz and is it what is the score I think that's the news for 50 to 50 2380 2386 scaling has it's so weird to go up a quarter clock like usually I'm on in so I'm going up beat block a little bit right I'm so it's kind of weird to do it with the CPU yeah Ike 44 DKK $25 thank you very much no message that joj 130 3.7 are you be not sure what are you Diaz that's right are you being currency Russian rubles thank you I'm cool and yeah your is all over the world unrelated question rampage for extreme or rampage for a black edition I actually have that Porter Black Edition is cool yeah I go for the Black Edition yeah we have that one he says he's gonna overclock a Xeon e5 1680 b2 I've actually done that I had one that was like six Giga think that same Xeon I came rampage 4x 79 yes yeah yeah I did I had this I actually still have that more in the Black Edition one the Black Edition is the better one and yeah that the one he's doing that 60 80 b2 is like a better Bend I forget what that chip was there was two two chips that they had that were one was a K version or whatever in the end was a text version 59 60 no that's 4790k they had I think no no that's that's a 97 no there's like a fucking small platform 49 with a bigger platform and I remember it was six core a core but that's a that's a fun one the bench there is a 4960 act maybe that's what I'm thinking of that might be at the 49 60 X that's the one that's the Extreme Edition yeah yeah we had the 49 60 X so that chip is basically the same version of that okay I think if it's the one I think it is because it's the Xeon one it's the it's been a while but yeah those chips are really good to be honest with the best chip I had on there was the Xeon version eirick are $2.00 thank you Tech Jesus came back huh Stein's designed to detect Jesus will never die I think this is back when I said I came back when you said I've never died we're on a one hour later you come back let me let me read through a bunch of these to catch up on super chats and then we'll keep going so Kyle needs two dollars thank you Steve will you try liquid concrete overclocking I think that is maybe a reference to Linus his video his April Fool's video it was actually so well done that a lot of people didn't know was an April Fool's joke really a - yeah - filled a liquid cooler filled a liquid cooling loop with I think it was cement like you know the liquid form really yeah and this whole joke like look it has higher thermal conductivity than water and all we have to do is keep it liquid and then it'll be really good Wow and of course the joke is they'll even come back and the loop has turned into concrete yes Zack d5 dies what's the best way to go about getting an Allen to set up that's probably I can take part of that question because I just did it but let me let me let you start that one so best way to start onto overclocking to start but well you got to get to obviously you need an L on - but you need computer components my recommendation is to go with the older stuff it's all stuff less bad if you kill it yeah the thing is you it's not about if you're gonna kill stuff it's about when you're gonna do stuff so it's gonna hurt the wah less if you go to certain older components from the older components you have to be kind of cautious because some of the older components can actually be worth more now than they were back then right oh it's kind of hard to find specifically which one you want is Pokhran on eBay maybe yeah you got to you got to be you got to look around for deals I think eBay is a good the problem with eBay too is sometimes you get bad components right away yeah you got to make sure like if you're gonna buy components off eBay make sure you test right away because a lot of the times you can get bad stuff I know a lot of guys have been hurt that way yeah so but it's yeah just could go with old stuff as much as possible and whatever really fits your budget and what you're not scared to lose yeah I mean I've lost some cards that are a lot yeah especially when you're learning and it's painful too and it can also be what do you say I don't know yo it could be a loss of confidence discourage a dose of yeah I mean it here's the thing everybody kills stuff it doesn't matter who you are I mean every one of us overclockers any of the legends in overclocking basically all I've killed stuff so that's how you get there that's how you get you gotta fail gotta you gotta learn somehow right you learn by failing and then you basically improve from it yeah especially Roman he's like oh he's failed a lot yeah he's really like something's on him over here yeah I mean in terms of experts by way of failing opens like number one easily he loved the fail epic fail hopefully their barriers to lunch at psych and you can hear that one now he's probably failing at the chat to you probably yeah so that answer other parts the question for the heart like components you need other than the PC parts I bought these these are Stanley Cups I guess yeah there were lost them 20 bucks each or something yeah these ones are good ones to it like I've actually been through a lot of these and you want kind of what these ones - they have another version of this that basically has like a little metal thing and the metal because your hands going like this will always catch on there and you'll get burns all the time I used to get burns all the funds I like these a lot these are these are really nice the lip isn't bad she just poured straight into L&T but the only problem with these is if you're bitching something like this is full pot where you just kind of mmm if there's something that you got to pour quicker they need to buy little ones and and you can go pretty much to any just kind of like sort of target even and get like small thermoses or like Dino from Timo au which now works for Intel okay but he has he used to use like a little cup you need that little thermos cups it's the same thing like you drink coffee out of it right like even the yetis and stuff you can use and then the Dewar so surprise the chats on freaking out probably okay doer because this is probably one of the most important parts in terms of getting some well yeah you need liquid nitrogen and a lot of the times to like they won't if you don't have this they're not gonna just give you a liquid nitrogen it's kind of like gasoline if you don't even approve the container you can't just pour it in anything I mean you can but my heart yeah yes a snake yeah you basically have the sneak but with liquid nitrogen they're not gonna give it to you unless you have one of these yeah and most places don't even rent them because they don't have them so then you'd have to get something like this and those are a lot harder to transfer into something like this so it's always good to I would say start out with something like a thirty liter yeah I mean you have you bought a brand new one I bought a brand new thirty liter which is what that is or six hundred dollars you can buy used ones be aware that use ones Dewar's are also used in agriculture for collecting samples that are used for breeding animals yes so I think that's the cleanest way for me yeah that is definitely the cleanest so be aware of that if you buy a used one I mean cool you saves a lot of money just to clean it out yeah awkward otherwise if you can find a used one that was used for Alan to buy an overclocker awesome well actually all the ones that I have I have three thirty liters and I had a I've had a bunch of them and I bought mine off icky bad I you got to look for deals that's the kind of the key if your if your budget is low then if you can you can definitely find something on ebay so yeah be my you don't need to get these either so Joe you were telling me when you would overclock out of your apartment you carry like three doers up the stairs yeah so you yeah you just bring the doer down to your local I'm air gas as a common company that that sells liquid nitrogen there are others you bring the Dewar down to your local on to seller and ask them to fill it up and and that's how you can start overclocking so 30 liters wouldn't cost much 180 liters right there after I got the discount because I think they overcharged me by accident but it was like 177 before taxes 480 litres so if it was actually cheaper usually to get the bigger tanks but you also you can't be in a residential area you have to be in a commercial area there's a lot of stipulations so the best thing is to get one of those really yeah and then if you bring it there they'll be like okay you know what you're talking about and film I do it and all right I'll do it yeah so yeah and one final note on that to give you an idea how long these last this for the last stream we did it lasted the whole four hours yeah if we were really burning through a not talking it maybe two to three but yeah like if you were to not open up the cap and leave it there it probably stay there for a couple weeks right I have one at home that I've I filled up a whole hell ago would still add a little bit of gray obviously it's gonna evaporate and you're losing a certain amount of day but it doesn't mean you're gonna lose all of it yeah yeah that's a good question so what are we actually yeah once you're mark down cuz I think this we're at 2397 so we're at five point two seven five years to five point two seven five gigahertz 2397 points it Cinebench our original score was 1839 at four gigahertz flat tweet this link I'm gonna do some more super chats a minute what's a tense an extreme overclocking is like using a pump to feed cat with liquid food non-stop on full speed that's what ten said I think was my absolute favorite thing about ten and I mean this since really thin is when he leaves out articles when he's talking you he leaves that like the a or the uh uh it's just like this is a this is a guy who's so ahead of me that he has to drop words [Laughter] interesting he's very smart he tends Terry bohner since fun to hang around with see we got a there's definitely a slacker don't Daisy oh yes who would you put us more slack in bender tent I don't know they're both flock I'm not sure who would be a more slacker well King Penn came from last time as chat knows I don't know actually because I haven't had my KP card yet so it's been it's definitely King Finn he's slacking can't even last time at Computex xx of those seen with him on Roebuck locker he had chat heard this before but kept saying she's done ski Steve every time I mean she's glam ski and he'd run around the other side of tables and money he like wiped some stuff off like he's working I'm like polishing some high-end car or something he comes back and he's like oh I got her back she's back she's done ski what's your score at 53 now no no I didn't run let's do 53 5.3 gigahertz on rising out of 2700 X so we are running a special mendelian yeah not even a specialist from that special enough no no sir 1 gigahertz higher than what you were on on air no but a heck of a lot colder yes 24:04 and what's the pot temperature right now it's full black so minus 187 yeah but but it's kind of relative at the location of the thermocouple I had that same thing let's see Andrew Slattery two dollars thanks for continuing to put out great content well thank you for supporting us with your contribution that will pay for a portion of the Ellen to you today Reverend arrow $2 what CPU is it it is an hour 7 2700 X if you're trying to do the 79 80 XE meme it's not into hell you lose beardo 25 $2.00 wish you had a red and black mousepad to match my rig well as always we are open to feel making requests so the black and blue one came into existence because people kept requesting on to make black and blue in addition to the white and blue so yeah if we see a lot of requests we'll make it but on that note though if you buy a mousepad during the stream today as stored on cameras Nexus dot Annette you can go there I've linked the mouse pads in the description below to make it easy for you you can pick up the black and blue or the white and blue and then Joe and I will be signing them after the stream so we'll just do a special signature where you can sign them on the top right that way it's away from where your mouse is if you want to use it and we might write a couple of notes on some of them I don't know we never do that laughs what do we what was one of the ones who wrote I think last time there was so many funny ones we had so on the posters time where like I'd sign it first and write like he's a slacker and just like point the arrow to where your signature and then I'd write something back yeah like it was Steve's phone that doesn't happen on all of them but it might be on a few yeah you didn't have it with Steve's fault yeah there's a bunch of ones we did I'm trying to think of a good one cuz I know we saw him on that's what you're covered yeah there was some good ones people were tweeting them out so you do buy a mouse pad on store documents exit on it will sign them today has to be doing the stream that otherwise it won't be let's see shades five-dollar shout-out to the overclocked rug here's some here's something to help out with some of its cooling thank you whoa I'm peeling 25 in summer us UDT p dt u b st c EST not EST PST UTC +1 UTC +2 hold on where they are upset that I said est instead of EDT but here's okay here's how I look at time all right you can't win either way Kenny now we're on the easy pretty but around the East Coast I said 1:00 p.m. Eastern I don't care if it to ETS day oh great there's a theoretical scenario that is relevant well what I call just made my day twist to the hardware $5.00 off topic I'm getting Colonel power 41 errors more often I thinking it's the chiefly made Asus hero 11 what do you think or I'm 1,000 I did or no power errors I'm not even sure what that error is I don't really I think that's the one word oh it's from a Event Viewer completely shuts down restarts unexpectedly I yeah that might be the book that's probably the board obviously I actually saw that on an older range this board that would give me Colonel power issues it was basically the board maybe try updating BIOS or something yeah maybe a BIOS update would probably help it's kind of a weird one what we really found a fix for it I just basically replaced the board now in a way it's a try BIOS update you can always another good thing is to go bare-bones eliminate all of your overclock set memory back yeah stock speeds and then see if it still happens and if it does there's a wider issue it might even be us but if it's all good well its power so with the power could be power supplies okay I powered although you never know I mean it's it's such a it's kind of a generic error yeah so well I'd go bare bones and start replacing components slowly if you have extras and then when it goes away you found the problem yeah Donald's a coke friend 199 lived in twist out of forty five-degree any call relations when I was asking about I don't lift the doer properly left oh my god I'm a work out oh my if my favorite names read it burns one Internet Protocol it burns when I pee two dollars says can't go one stream without reading my name I think you've gotten all of them so thank you for being on top of Justin Clifton's either terrible had any plans to join flow plan I would love to see their no current plans we're just I mean we're friendly with LMG and of course with Luke but we have no current plans to join a floatplane Gabriel seaman $2.00 captain overclocked rides again more Alan's here yes there were actually some good captain over talk art submissions I put them in that hardware news video or I'll back they're really good yeah yeah Nuria Rivera $5 her Joe doesn't have to worry about ventilation because he does his altitude testing on a boat of a sandbar near Tampa and Clearwater I would love to do that actually that actually pretty sweet problem is power they can't have to have a generator just run along cable bacteria yeah good luck with that all the guys have run boats and stuff through their be cutting that cable up like crazy let me do a couple more just to catch it I don't I do a couple boat video I mean I've done mountain biking videos that's gonna be in the future it's you got to do those vlogs man got to be a vlogger when you're walking around with the camera in front of you and you just point out stuff pointed to you make a lot of money doing that apparently I can do that very well too yeah let's uh we're let's push this a little harder so I've 5325 weather yeah but are we had a score white squirrel eyes let's go 24:04 okay so we were 24:15 okay see you're slacking now yeah that was 5325 right yes let's run and run another one fifty three fifty so five point three five gigahertz now now we I'm surprised we haven't lost the system yet actually it's not grumble it's done pretty well well we also have the heater the kingpin cooling heater this is one of the benefits when you're going really really cold and trying to keep the system all alive we couldn't have done that without the campaign cool it yeah or the heater so the heater on the back I was only at two points 24:17 okay let's do another one see if we can start finding point of failure soon someone asked what's the way for on the toolbox in the back we actually don't know it I bought it on eBay it was unfortunately shattered because the person packing it put it in a flat on the left and on the posts carrier folded it we thought that was a good idea both of them are cool all right 75 fish for your family 553 is five point three seven five gigahertz and my for 33 points any future promo cards codes for the large mod mat not immediately planned I mean we're almost sold out again so the what was that code - drop tips code is still active I think from that Linus how Linus detectives videos are made you can use that if you want 10% off any order on the store with that one let's see well now we're at five four five point four gigahertz someone says five four is the gate just the gate come up thank you I'm guessing they mean the limitation or the wall the wall five point four gigahertz 2450 so we're still going mm-hmm so I'll let you do another one of those let me hit a couple of shots reverend arrow $2 preferred beers and whiskeys this question for you i don't do i prefer beer and whiskey yes yes so the question is which one do you like and the answer is yes yes both it depends on my mood usually I'll have some beer and then then I'll have whiskey and nine really any particular order Richard $35 what you just threw down the gauntlet Roman did you hear that yeah we're still waiting on Roman slacking James five dollars Holly Springs throwing some MC love thanks for watching and we shout out to Holly Springs I guess Eric Jackson five dollars got a support if we want to keep seeing these live streams yes it is actually really expensive to do these Joe is one in Florida yeah it's hard to evacuate people from Florida they actually don't want to let you leave yeah I don't think I'm allowed is it true that they have to in Florida when you go to the airport they check all the recent Florida man stories to make sure you're not that one no but they should let's see Jason do I thank you Alan to your overclocking and ice cream making it out here it's actually it I'll tell line is though that's pretty good idea it's actually quite fun to make ice cream I have done it before yeah you saw on TV for it yeah yeah you just drag ice I've used regular ice and then you can use liquid nitrogen too nice uh oh my god let's see how far behind are we I'm a curly at 2:00 p.m. on super chats we don't have too many but let me get a couple more and then what are you at right now 4 o'clock 5425 5.45 gigahertz 24 52 points okay and then tomorrow as a reminder we'll have the kingpin card stream actually I'll show that all into pots here so we're gonna stream the KP card which is this it might be a little darker over here but sorry about that and then the Ellen teapot is right here so this is the new icon pot from kingpin that'll go right there and we got to coat it with Vaseline and do some insulation on it yep the memory actually doesn't need any any heat sinks or anything like that attached to it it's gonna be cold just from being so close to the Ellen 2 and all the components from the KP card right here on the table so we have this member dish and we're going to build it up for Alan to after the stream today so that would be tomorrow at 1 p.m. Eastern Time and you can go to google and figure out what time that is for you see right now I'm gonna run 75 now Fitzer through 475 okay so ever say five boards that are the instantly crashes or something that'd be funny if it did anybody we've been running for a long time usually I don't run this long yeah but it more fun that's either way I should fill this Dewar during the stream so people can see what that process is we're really not pouring nearly as much as last time though because last time we're working with a lot more power I like components yeah 24 80 points that's five point four seven five gigahertz on horizon 2,700 X we use a lot more tomorrow one - the kingpin we all use because I'll be constant boring like it's gonna be a higher frequency of the outer part yeah we're not higher higher frequency of pouring and also a yeah a hotter chip - much hotter chip see rows and all - dollars how close to the rumor do you think rising 3000 will be I don't know what the current rumors are I think I've seen people saying like 5 gigahertz stock and I'm just gonna tell you that's not happening right now so let me just shatter that dream before your expectations are too high that's not happening I don't know what the other rumors are though I think though I mean I really don't know for sure but just to see how these tips are now I would say a good it will be a pretty decent improvement that's what I'm expecting I don't believe all the rumors and stuff so kind of what that I never believed the room I try not to even read them yeah is the GN copper much dunsky so currently we're out of stock with them and not immediately manufacturing work because we have a new product that's coming out probably in the next week or two and we just got in a huge order of mod mats so the large and the medium are on sort of contra Sykes has done that and being a smaller manufacturer placing two giant orders like that a basically wipes out our product budget immediately so until those sell through we're not ordering any more stuff copper mugs included did I get a 55 15.5 gigahertz what do you know I didn't run you know didn't run it so we're gonna run 5.5 gigahertz they're pretty updater here don't worry no they crash a crash first crash of the stream so while you're do you do anything special to get it back you just reboot ginger boom and that torch required no if you just do a reset so do you still keep constant power it's you're not gonna get a CBB which is a cold boot bug so usually I can just hit reset and it should bring the OS back now if it failed it like when I did that that means I'd have to do a retry which would cut the power totally and then we'd have to heat up in torch so I'm gonna fill luckily you don't have to do that much fill more of these we're almost empty I'm a thirty liter let's try I'm getting faster at pouring Joe I'm getting it all over the floor just like you hey proud of me just copying your style you're movin on up in a world just dump it on the floor right okay you can see like the footprint where I was just standing where is let's see yeah we're at 2:7 try a little bit more volt there you go fresh ons here yeah I'm just about to set see where we are last time so we could be at that point where the setup is just way too cold so let's try let's see yeah so we'll do 5475 again okay we didn't have a successful 55 no not yet I made a little changes for yesterday see if we improved and we didn't it's done the opposite pretty much so I'm gonna fill this Dewar up let's get a or whenever Angie's ready I guess we got a camera shot of that because we haven't shown that this time so let's see come on come on come on keep going and keep going keep going so I bumped up the voltage to from 1/6 to 165 mm-hmm and we ran this for seems a little bit about the flowers oh no no no it's not 2485 versus 24 18 so we are at five five you get on cable length let's see how much we've gained from voltage try a 55 25 now that longer cables pretty nice that's awesome alright so when I walk you're gonna get chat up so hey make sure we're we're going okay alright so we're gonna fill the Dewar here it's not completely empty but I just want to it's cool to see so this is a transfer hose I paid like I can is between 280 and 400 dollars for this so these are pretty expensive you hook them up to the Allen T tank and then Joe's advice is hold it when you first start yeah so that it doesn't fly yeah and if you've been filling them up a lot this is gonna get cold so you don't want to grab it yeah I wrap something around that we use cardboard or whatever but when you're initially haven't done it for a while you could just use your head yeah this is room temperature right now but as it starts going I'll let go of it because it actually does get like really really cold it hurts so yeah it's just there's a valve here this tank is pretty close to empty I think but we do have another full tank for tomorrow for the KP card that's the process of okay see how the pressure gets released you can do pretty much here it ya go you've got initial whistles like that's the the problem and then and then what you're doing you could just let off the hose and yep so and then when you know it's full it'll kind of make like a bubbling noise and you'll see something come out at the top yeah it's kind of like water it away if you see water kind of splash now if you were shooting water in there when I hose okay I splash it up it's a nicer than water actually because then it just evaporates not even spill everywhere so that's that's filling the Dewar with Allen too and then we'll put this foam cap in there at the end not super important for today but if we're storing it long-term it would help and I actually you can see the Ellen to like kind of tendrils over here so at this point this hose is like getting cold enough where you don't want to hold on to it pretty cool that pressure on these tanks is 22 psi and get higher psi tanks but don't really want it for this application because it's more of a hazard when the yeah when the hose starts well yeah but also it's more of a pain to get out yeah it's not as likely it's always it really yeah yeah it's been a while since I got one cuz I got a couple on accident and I was really pissed because it takes more to to I basically it's more liquid nitrogen to try to transfer I see so you end up losing a lot less efficient yeah and then it like it so we flowing off and shooting noise all the time quite annoying and then there's also a medical grade which you don't want if you do this because it costs a lot more and it's not necessary yeah it's not like we're pouring on dead body there's great right now yeah yeah maybe later cane pen when we did the teardown of the cane pin 20 atti you can find this in the video there's a section of the video where it's like rip headphone users it's pretty loud there's not really a ton of context for what happened but what happened was in Vince's Latin kingpins lab one of their Alan two cylinders they let off a bunch of pressure and it was really loud it startled me so that's what that noise was in that video what's our frequency five point five - is it five point five - five or five fifty five point two five yeah it's five point five two five yeah so we're over five five now this is my limit yesterday so what we're gonna do is just put it slowly because we I had a jump a huge voltage from 5475 I needed one point six 455 I needed one point six five and then four 5525 I need one point seven that's a lot of voltage in between to get those yeah very little clocks so that's kind of when the scale is done so I don't really expect too much from the chip right since this is makanda I could push it more so that we've really pushed both this and see what happens it's up to you Steve I'd say we push it all right let me check out the frost on that though this this is the point where you don't want to touch it yeah so that's when you wrap around something you could use a towel yeah budget everything they check chats I hope my mousepad gets signed - it will if you buy it there in the stream today yeah my hand will be cursing at you later haha no people didn't like that initial sound that shit sounded like an alien was in the room that initial whistling we got for Dewey 5550 now it's 550 how cool I'm not expecting much I think this is the exact point of failure I'd yesterday the first time I closed this valve last time I did the stream the top center of it freezes because it's like a screw and the rest of it is fine you can touch it the top center is like an exposed screw and the first time I grabbed it yeah you don't want you usually we put something up on it try to do it yeah like that's probably the most point where you're gonna burn yourself yeah is just transferring from that I mean unless you spill it all over everywhere you just run out of the room right it's very cold there hey Patrick can you get me a thermocouple reader all right we're asking to see temperatures be we're gonna do 5575 five point five five gigahertz 575 yeah I'm not expecting this to work right here he isn't it or not okay that's fine I see all right now wow look at that yeah but the score went down oh that's cold so room temperature is 21 point four degrees Celsius and just right here in this off gas and I put whatever from Alan to I never should've that's why we're at minus thirty eight just to give you an idea of like how cold it is in proximity for Alan to her up here all right - still go still going down - 78-84 say seven yeah Raoul about this I don't think an even read that well that's just like - 90 degrees on the 1900s yeah yeah it gets cold that's like the one thing you really got to worry about thank you okay thanks even with like when you do that basically you've done this you can how much your core fell on touch quick thank you turn off yeah you're probably gonna wouldn't let it go for a little bit but right then now we gotta take the hose out so how you doing see they eat the cardboard yeah all right so I think that's the limit on our ship it's funny to hear all the crap in 175 yeah it's got a bit leaking out 50 so this canisters pretty close to empty you can see it's all like frozen over and everything though so that is filling the sewer pretty sweet stuff you got some super chats yeah I would did a super chats I think we're almost at the limit on this chip we didn't run 50 we did 50 pretty much which was my top I got on this chip so there's not much more you can get out of them once they had a limit they start you can jump on voltage it really doesn't do much play yeah that's how you know when that scores it when it scales so here's one for you do overclockers to save all the telemetry and spyware in Windows 10 and the drivers for the bench wrap you can it improve it a bit and like time spy and stuff yeah no I I do it for sure I'm late what was the highest clock speed what we're still going and what's our stable right now so around 55 50 I think is the run okay you'll see the score the score was 25 Oh - hmm but I had to bump up the voltage quite a bit even now I'm running at 1.75 when we started we were at 1/6 I read a couple of those store orders so we got Eric from California picked up a mouse path that'll be signed by John Hyde after the stream we 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thank you we got some super chats we're pretty behind on them do my best here I'm gonna answer these as quickly as I can to get get through all the super chats Liz you have been waiting for an hour now Jacob pocket $5 the OSI tech vendor is her assembly love it please do this again after Zen's who is released I think that is the plan I think yeah I think we've come to say after this one we're definitely gonna do one yes I'm kinda I'm actually really excited for Computex to see like what happens right yeah there will be a lot of a lot of motherboards for sure yeah for the am the announcement unexpected at 1440p did you guys talk the precision timer and windows yes we did I read in forums online about it when rise on it seems to make things worse maybe 10 or builds I'd know you have the great work and Joe agreed Ian's from Germany what's going on so we we did talk about the yeah diviner the event timer figure out what I said no better we were just talking about how well so there's there's yeah there's two timer issues we talk there's a timer a bug where when you were increasing B clock yep the scores were not accurate right yeah and supposedly he was supposed to only be in a synchronous but it happens in synchronous too so I tested both methods and now I just I'm not gonna set B clock at all and then there's a high precision event timer issue that some of those crops up to we have an old video where I demonstrated the bug by opening just the windows clock yeah and you could skew well in cpu-z you can actually tell so I'm in cpu-z there's a I didn't even realize until the buddy told me this let's see there's a tools and then there's timers and what you could do is you could start that clock timer huh and stop it and it will tell you well see the RTC the real-time clock is a little bit off mm-hmm which might be just be Windows 10 in general right I mean we're not going for official scores we're trying to do they were not somebody yeah we're not submitting anything but it just seems like these clocks always come off on Windows 10 so maybe it's just Windows 10 perfect yeah yeah maybe it's just uh accuracy maybe it's point zero one yeah it could happen you know but but this is a good way to how you can test if the clocks are off so so you can check that that so you can do yourself I think after 1.84 it comes in cpu-z though definitely other thing to do just we showed that when Rison first came out I think because some people were reporting that they got like four point five gigahertz all core yeah that's it which was you know sadly for them it was just a timer vibe yeah that's bummer yeah yeah because I didn't realize until a buddy told me he's like you really gotta watch out for the timer on Windows 10 so it was like okay I'll look into it and basically going through the timer and then he showed me that was like I'm like I didn't even realize they put that yeah so uh but yeah I started to see how off it was with me clock and and I tested all the different modes and it definitely goes off yeah you'll notice it goes off and through there don't so yeah twenty five over five votes for with that frequency oh this is a fifty five fifty fifty five fifty okay and out of 55 75 years no I'd end up having the bump voltage you'll see it's at 175 that woman was at 1:7 so if you market okay what does that buy five yeah got it oh it's getting chilly over here from that Ellen to Jonathan fever is five dollars or we got one above that sorry it's good wine yeah see 75 is just done oh it just does give Steve gun ski we had Nick he are so Danish $50 thank you hello to both of you from Denmark great to see some live Alan to overclocking well we absolutely appreciate you watching and especially cuz it's getting late over there Jonathan keepers five dollars can you go over your background and why you put so much focus on good explanations for margins etc versus other youtubers loving the screen by the way so I get oh background in statistics it's a few words I have no background in stats everything that we do is is just through experience so the the background for everything we do on the channel testing or like explaining margin of error things like that is entirely through failure like you learned by failing up stuff you learn because yeah years ago if you look at a benchmark from five years ago I might have said that a difference of like 3 or 3 FPS on a certain game was significant but maybe as we've learned that could actually fall with an error margin so the way to do it is to run those games like over all the tests we do over the lifespan of a bench potentially thousands of times for all the different test passes you look at the deviation run to run and kind of start realizing like ok this game really only deviates to 0.5 FPS which really accurate and you can start building your margin of error and I guess the the reasoning for doing it for us is because we cram a bunch of parts in a chart and if you start getting numbers that are really close together sometimes we want to know is it a significant difference or is it just test error invariants I can't comment on what other youtubers do but that's the reason we do it and it's just because like I guess as you do more tests you realize that a lot of the magic and the testing dies because you realize that okay actually these numbers are really not that significant or maybe these numbers are extremely significant depending on the error of each bench so like time is 5 for example has some variants in it run to run pretty much all the benchmarks there all of them do Cinebench - yeah yeah I mean it's hard to there's a lot of different variables in the test that could cause different things to happen yeah you and this is how - we discovered issues with like the turbo timers duration being incorrect on some other boards being on stock because you run Cinebench and if you're on Cinebench on those z 390 boards yeah one get tired in the other right yeah and so what you start realizing is like okay this is outside of variants it's a this one has a B clock of 100.8 you know what just complete BS yeah and then like this one is actually it's getting too high of a score and so you realize that okay if I run this ten times backs back the score comes down that's because the turbo duration stuff like that Alex 24 is BS MX 80 thank you looking forward to one of these once rise in 3,000 times out hopefully hit in five gigahertz readings for Mexico no I think we should get past 5 gigahertz on 3000 on Alan to because we're already doing it yeah I wouldn't like even with the Intel we will usually see always a performance angrist I mean I wouldn't expect them to release anything that's worse no you know Kobe Ricky $1 Kobe Ricky one daughter can thank you I left this tech support $5 my significant others dad watches your channel - he's gonna love the signed mousepad I just bought well thank you for picking one up and if if we had a good way to mark like to personalize them I would but he will certainly get the sign mousepad man Dennis pietre shunned Andrea sorry $2.00 is one point three five volts safe for long term use on the United my answer is yes 1.35 yeah yeah yeah I've run higher definitely final mage six ten dollars time for a noisy battle between builds my bearded hardware and deer bower me out of it Wow just you three huh it's probably very for a good reason [Laughter] so you're saying who wins owner see battle if if we if there's no resource like if Roman can't pull all of his resources from chaos King and when just by having more parts to wins you were him well there's always a very intimate okay that's sounds like it but since the answer yes he definitely be that my yeah that's assuming you can even get Roman like to the bench no I think I'm Ally heat the ad like seriously trying to get him out to do anything anymore James T dies hey Joe hashtag fire the cannons fire the cannons you know that reference I don't know that 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pushing the bolts I think about 185 just for the hell event say we got to the track I doubt it's gonna work though any chance any guess how hot a 5.5 gigahertz CPU would be without the lm-2 cooling well it's hard to say yeah it wouldn't get that high today wouldn't get that I cuz it would shut down so but I guess usually when that the temperatures lower you knew you would need more volts so when you it's basically a cold scale so when it gets colder your voltages go like this so when they add when it gets cold well I guess it when it gets colder because you're removing your thermal limitation yeah because it's really hot otherwise you're limited to about a hundred degree or actually less than that and rising but if it's basically making so much noise in that pot where you can hear going and making a lot of noise it's hot because liquid nitrogen was for really cold yes I'm catching up decently on these finally let me see where are we Steve is always slacking I'm always behind on everything average gamer now got that one Bob though I saw one die thank you and drea sheriff didn't see you two dollars is Jay still mad at making Twitter party I don't know I don't know I don't talk to Jay Valley which individuals on Twitter he's mad at no idea he'll forget with time I don't know he did you probably forgot he blocked you yeah he probably did Kevin Ganz three or five dollars thank you Peter child $1 thank you Paul the bearded one downing got competition Joe yeah I haven't he's on my Twitter nice good dude $5 I'm just here got back from who we got a higher score there me yeah 5550 was 25 12 at one point eight five volts that's a lot of old yeah we've hit that time where it's screw it let's try it yeah we have more chips if we need them yeah hopefully it doesn't have anything to do with the board there yeah now I have a limit at 55 75 it just won't run we got some store orders let me get a couple of those like I said if you you buy the mousepad during the stream today we've got them linked in the description below the white and blue or the black and blue Joe will sign these with me at the end of the stream and we will see we just got an order from Alex in Australia who picks one up so thank you for picking that up outs that does not come with the thermal face by the way sorry that's probably from Roman too I just kind of wastes his any chance I get Rome external paste just that's thank you yeah yeah into the trash can right whoa yeah pretty much I use it on my like less like haha cared about setup you know they they're all grizzly makes good stuffs a crayon awesome among the best a very high thermal conductivity no I use a lot of it on everything actually yeah we go through the previous these I think I was using there grisly yes cry oh no not makes makes I'm gonna use it on their setups and water setups it works pretty much good for for all yeah it's I haven't had really any issues high-end compound that's for sure I can do pro not can can do cold temps - we got a late $5 why does the 9900 K only get around 2,100 points at 5 gigahertz despite having better IPC yeah this 2700 X is getting 2,300 points at 5 gigahertz I in I don't have memory differences I guess I don't know what the rest of this oh yeah you can't really look at it at 5 gigahertz that's just a boosted that's the only thing tears yes yeah that's not like if I were to Oh see that and this is also with memory also yeah if I were to take 5 gigahertz on the 9900 K and kind of do what I did here it would be higher yeah and then less you were starting to catch up finite road Rodri more $5 my 600 K is I was heat up to 4.7 gigahertz on the NHD 15 and doing fine I wanted to up good for some time but it's not bottlenecking by 1070 I missed the fun of overclocking yeah I mean you get into the point where there's not not a big reason to upgrade but just for fun it's kind of crazy though because if you look at them so when we keep on talking about let's say rising the 3 series 3000 series that's gonna come out or whatever and then we're talking about improvement if you look at even intel's improvement so if you look at at 6700 k47 was pretty good like the really golden chips were at like 5 yeah I have one and then when you went to a 7700 K all of a sudden the chips were v 2 v 3 yeah so you see an improvement so I expect to see like a lot of rising chips maybe even better than that obviously what we see here yeah I just kinda showed you do any more Allen to in the Israel well we're pretty much done it I can't run 5575 as at all I've tried up to one point eight five volts okay I could try one nine but what try one night no no come on is it's a good stream it's his his chip is it AMD sent it yeah yeah let's try one let's try a famous last words not my money let's try it famous last words are watch this so while joe is setting up for 1.9 thoughts on this we got a d FD EDS CD CD $2.00 thank you I thought I would send it to you guys thank you keeping the designs $1.99 any thoughts I'm doing some TR for Ellen's new content they thought some thread refer lookin nitrogen content we need more fun to veg well it depends on the cold yeah I don't know I've never been to yarn I buy wood banjo why not we can try it sure something different I've been benching all the Intel stuff for so long it's kind of fun to get something new yeah LOM PLN 25 you read the wrong question mine was about timezone what I think I read that one also 25 no it didn't do it that's done that's the limit it's kind of weird too if you find an intel limit yeah I usually get like a bunch of blue screens and stuff that's what this thing black goes black and just reboot yeah it's kind of nice cuz anyway you don't hear the blue screen yeah reference uh-huh pretty good on Helens new stuff yeah they said I'm so good though the heaters working it's magic the memory doesn't seem so bad I think our setup is pretty sweet like how this is still frozen also yeah valve so um you think you can't get any no we run any additional benchmarks while we're here you have like feeding work on there anything we can do a geek bench yes sure why not let's just see what yeah why do you have so many screenshots on your desk laughs oh I hear that all the time why she wants to break a bunch of records that were like why do you have screenshots because what I do is ever there every bench instead of me right interrupt you I like the casual especially when I used to break a bunch of yeah used to well just throw that in there anyway you were saying about the screen shopping Steve no no it's basically how I record my information so that that way if I I'm instead of me writing it down and doing everything I can just actually look I'll end up like organizing and everything and I'll make sure I can that way I have it for later is reference so I know if I'm doing better or not cuz that's the whole point right is to keep pushing pushing pushing pushing as far as you can and it's also your and not as much here but sometimes you're dealing with more time pressure like if you're managing a bunch of ellentube pots yeah it takes longer to like just write down so you're doing like three pots and you're trying to figure out stuff I'd rather just do a screen shot and write a lot of times you'll see that I'll have like the voltages that I'm using and cuz maybe tomorrow I'm like cuz I'll be benching all day tomorrow forget what the voltages are and all I have to do is go to the desktop and I can see it yeah yeah there's just an easy one because I have a screen shot program that basically just shoots whatever's on the screen and just copies it and names it so I don't have to do anything all i have to do is click let's see you see if i could try something else actually no we'll try this will do five gig and Geekbench get a baseline I gotta try and catch I'm gonna put a stop I think I'm a super chat so any super chats after like now 3:20 a local time I'm not gonna read them because we're too far behind so you can send them but I won't read them past that point I'd respect for everyone's time in the street all people watching but I will get through all the ones that have been sent in let's see Steve prior five dollars not sure if anyone's asked but what's the main difference from overclocking in the BIOS versus software like rise master and other motherboard implementations let's talk about the one you're using the Asus turbo yeah this is turbo v so I think the first one that would do it was actually gigabyte gigabyte came up with a slimmed down program that was just nice and right to the point and then Hayes this was shortly and then like asrock has one too the thing is is you can do it in the BIOS if you want to but you're also there's a lot more room for error because you got a boot up right so in the OS you're already booted up so you can actually maybe push it farther the other thing is is we remote we're going super cold on certain things there is always a time where maybe you might have a delta in between of what you think you have as cold and then what is actually on cold so if I were to reboot and I was at to reboot at one point nine volt and it cracked they would kill my chip so I like to have my voltages lower and so when I'm rebooting I'm not so worried about it damaging the process yeah because you I want to be able to bench the whole time and I would I don't want to go the whole trick is not to kill hardware I mean it's not really fun especially if you have a golden chip or or like if you have a lot of money in it yeah and a lot of money to is always the other thing but even it I don't know a little piece of you dies when I'm golden - it's it's kind of sad yeah you like you tears kind of like you know bubble up it can get a little awkward sometimes just saying by the way oh yeah okay Dee I don't know if you want to go over this core oh yeah so you got let's take a note here someone said your performance will be better if you clear the desktop that was the old thing let's find out you brought it up before that yeah fifty five seventy eight single and oh I took a screenshot - okay cool see this and these are the time I know we gotta go back at all nice no it's a bull the mole tech square is actually pretty good but this is only a five gate mm-hmm right right Han resole $5 Steve I have x99 82 an Intel tuner takes my CP to 4.2 gigahertz 1.45 volts but I do it in BIOS and sets it back down to 3.7 boy thing I don't know annex 99 a to Intel tuner tasting the 4.2 1.4 fuel line do it in the BIOS it sets it back to 3.7 kg Hertz I guess um it's probably your board and you probably have a setting that that's altering it yeah I've seen that similar to there might be some auto set there's like a lockdown where you're doing something there's it's a specific setting I would go through your BIOS maybe set it to load optimized defaults meaning back to stock and then check every setting that you're doing and then boot up into the submenu see that happens usually a lot if you don't have the specific settings set up off and it's been a long time for x99 so it's kind of hard yeah give you the specific setting well thar fief two dollars guy here late sorry what CPU is this 2700 X yes mind a 554 here's the seven dollars twenty cents I guess once can read the USD saved from using the codon store that cameras Nexus thank you for saying that again Eric are five dollars long my polish fellow stop sending all that hard-earned peel and you just sent workday worth of money the Martin see one two three $2 bit Lee but let's get what the seat what is the CPU going it's been going there's not this every night 80 X 80 pays $5 loving the ecstasy convict we've got how many more well I did put our heart stop okay cool so we have a couple more let me the ecstasy content currently benching GTX 580 classified with 9900 K whilst watching from the UK or XOC streams please definitely we have one tomorrow what a fun set up the 580 classifying yes that's a good that's one of the earlier I would say the earlier KP let's think that was the first one he worked on it yeah I think that's the word the first one yeah I think so I mean he was helping out before that probably but the 580 I think the 580 classified there wasn't a for any classified was there I don't think I don't think there was because I have a 580 class the 580 kingpin looks really cool though or 780ti one of those - no the 780 he was the first King was the first and they're classified addition the 588 is also a like which I think that was the first one he worked on as when you went to view the oldest one he has on a shelf what's really cool which everyone that is alone I'm hey I think that's the one five dollars can you talk about why your CB is required on - to go from four point three to five but old bulldozer it could get 8 gigahertz on island - way different architectures they're completely different not really comparable not if performance doesn't matter and clock speed does that's when bozos was good yeah you needed it's all about performance I mean clock speed is one thing I mean bulldoze are also the it's Ryan few refuse per core module I think so you start running into some floating-point limitations and performance but wait different architecture I'm not gonna read this thing it's like yeah for nine C to seven then it goes on for another like forty characters fifty DKK thank you don't read the name they said okay it looks like a heat it looks like a serial yeah don't read the name is it good to be at a dry spot when L into overclocking like a desert or maybe using a dehumidifier actually it works really well I mean we in Vegas it was like six percent humidity right now we're at 40 45 so at six percent the humidity you could bench far away with like five or six spots and not even worry about condensation you probably wouldn't you'll get a little bit but like very even little compared ya know will you be Astro pirate five dollars what you testing in the horizon CPUs with the first generalize and mother boys we will yes tour Graham remin Norwegian 163 eighty thank you what's this currency hey Joe well I think I got it Norwegian kroner right haha Cole wouldn't uh torgren dogyum Cole markeson one dollar thank you I'm trying to get through this efficiently freak you two dollars how many motherboards and CPUs have you killed Joe that's for you to I couldn't even keep track - hi - come on know honestly I've killed more motherboards than CPUs I mean motherboards you I mean you could bench a lot of times it's just over time they get beat up I mean yeah when you take down and it depends on how cold you're going to I mean when your gold like this there's a lifespan of I mean all things you're going spending all the expanding and contracting and I mean it beats up the board so boards it's kind of normal I mean I've killed tons of them CPUs I've I've killed a lot to you I think I've killed me I've got a lot of GPUs do I feel maybe only one or two CPUs but they're not from overclocking it's like one of them you know how am these CDs get stuck in the socket when you remove the cooler I've done that so it didn't really kill it but it was an FX 90 whatever 95 90 whatever that CP was and one of the pins came out and it doesn't not be the one that I needed for memory so what I did was I had a board that was only ever used for that CPU and I stuck the pin back in the hole on the board that it belongs in so you didn't technically kill it and it actually worked yeah there's some some things you can do to try to bring boards back yeah kind of org chips back in so Cole Markuson so start with Allen T rather than dry ice I guess question for if you're new to this um they're very different so most people think that like it's good to start off with dry ice it kind of gets you understanding and safety on cold so I mean you can even even do face changers but they're just not very efficient and kind of bulky and I can tell you from in the but to work from experience to I start with chilled water you know I think and that was actually way harder than this like well in terms of setup I mean it is a pain because you gotta make sure everything's working and then like the condensation on all the loop yeah so this is harder for other reasons like you get high enough that you have to start learning more about the voltages to change and stuff yeah it's it's much more difficult we do we don't just add cold on a lot of stuffs like so you need to be a it's it's good to start out with dry ice because then you get your cold like kind of how you want to insulate you kind of get used to like what you're working with and then then you can move on to Ellen to and you can pretty much use a lot of the same pots to well I mean that's kind of the benefit if you want to get into liquid nitrogen zack d $5 earlier was thanking us for explaining the setup for liquid nitrogen required when we did that and said no one explains the setup in required equipment huge fan of the channel well thank you for that and no no maybe Joe if we have time either this trip or next one we should just do a 10-minute walk through here's all the stuff you need if you want to try this yeah like here's the cheapest entry talent to overclocking so he's just thanking us for explaining it it earlier all the yeah parts required Parker hold them I'm gonna do it this time yeah hold man $2.00 YouTube premium gives me free super chats here's $2 that's true jack see Templeton $1 just a tumbled in $1 thank you geeks nerds and text by guys what will hold more value your assigned mousepad or hold more value your sign mousepad I just bought or the sign 2700 x9 BAM at least we actually signed it yeah it's a talent wrote on it Jan or yen solarek fists $2 mod matte and signed poster made it to Finland thanks glad you got them thank you're picking them up I think we are getting close I'm not too far from the end of the super chest the scroll bar there scroll bars getting close Joshua Bell 5 9 and weighted Verizon stream to buy your mousepad harbor freight flyer is illegible now oh you're a harbor freight flyer that your reason as a mousepad I'll have to test tech support $5 I have an EVGA 2080 TI f CW 3 hybrid and I can't overclock had past plus 85 measures on the quorum plus 1000 memory voltage and wattage max never goes past 65 degrees Celsius you're probably too power limit would be my guess Big Daddy worms 79 and $2.00 a future promo codes oh I got that one for the large mod Matt no current plans but we just kind of do them randomly LOM PLN 25 i specifically referred to the t aziz you've shown in the last video which listed EST PST you're an e dt w double WTF the student needs to chill on the time zone like me funny actually yeah alright man you know what time we meant don't care John Luke watts five dollars what CBO is better for workstation gaming use I started so I went to Carolina and then okay I do 3d modeling mostly it depends on the application but I mean like it better at ninety seven hundred ninety nine hundred level performance for gaming it's it's kind of like it doesn't really matter anymore cuz you're already at the top end of the scale and the difference between them we show on our reviews and it's just it's not a ton so yeah but even with the 92 700 K you can push that a lot farther if you have a nosy boy yeah we're clocking so and I mean you you could go either way I think for 3d modeling if you're doing like blender for example blender will leverage those extra threads so it will matter and something like that if it's frequency bound the applications you're using and will depend on application I just know doesn't matter they're both fast Trevor D pour another one for me boys love the channels thank you for that oh yeah hahaha that looks so cool man Tony you need an 8 in a pool we should go to the hotel yeah and dump it in the double bunch in the pool I'm Tony it looks cool that won't get us all the way by security work with the construction to it that's right that's funny uh getting close from Apple Apple DKK $10 thank you Paramveer outfall i don't know sorry two dollars will you ever make an RGB extended mousepad no current plans josiah tiger op $2 - thank you where can I get the Asus to her bovi core software question for you Joe this one was actually not like a Rison one this wooden was four at the apex I think this was actually so I use the one that you can download for me back ok on this board it errors out when you do it but they'd like frozen air at first but then it works a where except now cool so yeah just you just try to find the one for the the newest apex motherboard yeah yeah nice let me I'll go over the frequencies that we ended up at in a minute too I want to get through as we're at the very end finally I can see like the end of the screen now 16v oh no stop your name there 616 vs Cir something $2 thank you I want everyone to know Bo Bo TW lady or Bosa is f in the hot I don't know what that means but I guess everyone else knows it now how Eric Jackson fun Ty's talk to friend into it got a mouse pad for him and one for myself awesome thank you the support we're gonna have a lot to sign I think I'm Stephan Colby 229 my order number for the mousepad I'm not gonna read your number on the stream thank you well thank you for ordering we will be signing all of those that were ordered today so you will get it as soon as it ships Kevin spray tan 499 is tomorrow stream 1 p.m. est or EDT okay so the current time is 334 p.m. where I am standing right now so in 24 hours it will be 3 35 5 p.m. again except on Sunday and then subtract 2 hours in 25 minutes two hours in roughly 25 minutes and that would be the stream all right very fine man 35 yeah that's when it that's the answer to your question ha ha thank you for the alliance Anthony you Genovese $5 ok cool I see the very bottom hardware numbers is like one of the last ones my 87 ok it's not any right at the start of test this is on 4.70 see with all course synced at 120 volts called by 240 radiator what can I do to lower the temperatures well then so we've said my 87 arcane yeah well number one you could deal in yes and number two you can put a liquid metal under yes and and then well it depends on how you can also lap them pretty much every Intel chip I have I lap well I guess that one's not a soldered one on the side one it seems almost worse but uh but yeah and also if it's in a case like normally then you might have like a case airflow issue too well yeah well he said at one point to su-47 1.2 he has a problem yeah maybe there's a problem with it actually that because cooling oh that's what I'm wondering is if it's like the case is inhibiting air flow or if that cooler has bad fans on it or something it's 90 at the start of at it that's way too much yeah I would say maybe I would check between the block and the chip first of all yeah make sure to do anything yeah I didn't realize that at one point - if it was higher than I could see that it'd be 99 he's not actually right but at like 5 gig maybe how 1793 $5.00 nice dream live thank you let's talk through the voltages and frequencies you ended up doing Joe will take a break from these and then I'll do like the last eight or so that there are 10 that there are so what did we end up at for fir frequency first in a bench I think 55 50 yes 55 55 point five five Oh beards yes which is it from what I heard is pretty much no decent that's pretty good 155 50 megahertz and Geekbench don't would run about the same it just ran about 55 they're about the same not as high in your voltage was harder on memory using right you're between 1.7 or 1.85 at that yeah at that point that's just way too much so you could tell from so at five five we only needed one point six volts to get five five five exactly five zero I needed one point eight five volts the drastic amount of voltage means it's that's definitely not good so I could tell right away because even at five five to five I still needed one point six five volts so that's point zero five volts just to get that little extra clock right so then from there it's basically it's just down from that you could tell that's the actual Hardware limit yeah yeah yeah you get though I mean Rison so the stock score for people keeping track unmodified other than minus 11 degrees it was eighteen forty-eight points for Cinebench no and if that means nothing to you we can do a percent difference percent increase calculation here just make it easy so 1848 was the original score in our files for was twenty five twelve and so that is an increase of about 36% in scoring and frequency it's an increase of about 35% it's pretty close pretty one-to-one and then four I don't know what's like I remember off the top my head wet what some other CPUs score but yeah I would get confused because in the cores let's see let me just pull up like a hot hardware result for night yeah okay so hardware I could pull up around numbers about have them in front of me right now so they had like a 70 900 X Intel ten core CPU is at 2178 they use that 1808 for the 2700 X yeah and we're a little bit higher because we have a memory you know that we we've overclocked a memory at me quite a bit actually so you can see it gains a little bit and then thread refer 1950 X they had it at 30 65 points so we were actually really close to the river not all that far yeah five hundred points memory it is still pretty far but it's like it's that's pretty good distance today yeah it's considering maybe like five seven so the record I think is about five seven with hardware numbers for our 50 and he was at like 27 35 so that's really close yeah so maybe like a six gate will match the thread over yeah are pretty close to it which considering the like 2x core difference there that's pretty good so that's your comparison and then let's see what's he using to OSI the CP software why is it based turbo B yep so like I said earlier guys we are I put a cut-off time on the super chats so we're almost to the end of those we had DKK 20 AFL any plans to get screen capture when I was he streaming I tried it I had issues where when the system would die then the the capture would die and like there's a way to fix it he'll be without that yeah there's a way to fix it for sure but we just haven't had time spk 1 3 2 4 do you think is n 2 will overclock better than Zen plus yes or well it'll get a higher frequency I don't know if it'll have more Headroom but it'll be a higher frequency murderous motorsport I would say probably think so yeah I'm it's process improvement so yeah I think I think definitely who knows how much that's the kind of thing answer to the course yeah a whole question motorsport know there's 199 do you think 2700 5 gigahertz will roughly equal 3700 sn2 performance I have no idea I'm not gonna guess yeah no one knows n 2 performance I think I said we'd stop at 320 on the super chat so we've got only a couple more 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 and 11 12 ok thanks so much for the actual end of controlled variable testing and including OC stats on the graphs PS please make an XXL mouse mat we've got a few requests so we'll bump back up on our priorities thank you SG Andy - nine eight nine $2.00 thank you what's the status I've been moving well I hope your move is going well we just gave you a status like a recap a second ago so 55 50 megahertz Motorsports good luck with the chilli secret sauce today that's the thermal scallion Verizon how many megahertz per 10 to 25 degrees below Celsius or below zero sorry Celsius I don't know that we can really measure it that way yeah we didn't really measure like the cold scaling right we didn't it's kind of difficult to do I mean we would need a lot more time to be able to do something like that we just want minus 196 and then yeah the whole point is because we know they go cold so just want to make sure I don't think we should have tried B me like a minus 100 to see you like what was the possibility but there's a lot of variants in there as far as voltage right so I would say before you say take the same voltage and just keep it and then I mean how much does it scare ya we'd have to do a bunch of this catch right my tracer my heart attacks can't hit four points you stable could it be the V R M is too hot my cases they don't take core p5 so no air flow depends on the movie yeah yeah try it I mean it's easy to test you just sit a fan over it doesn't have to be mounted anything just get it secure and well your gold chip didn't even know wouldn't go over for one and it's the same motherboard their use in yeah I mean I think it's unfortunate is probably just a limitation on the chip no it's definitely limitation because I had it on this one too yeah Steve burly great content q of the great work just order to want to each of the mouse pads thank you is liquid-nitrogen expensive is liquid nitrogen cooling expensive to do whatever that earlier I guess we'll do like a dedicated video sometime on it but very quick recap each of those cylinders is about a hundred seventy seven dollars before tax they will last us a couple days oh you're another very female there's a delivery fee yeah I think I know a minute tank charge rental fee there is and I've had four hundred forty dollars and then whatever the rental is taking bad bear I get there was better than yeah I think they felt that disappointed now they felt bad because they asked me for my credit card like three times they kept typing it on and then she was like okay can we 50% off in the house so so that you got a next time on that often next I'll just give them the wrong number and they kind of feel like they typed it in correctly and then I'll get the discount this was like 600 held on two pots are like 300 to 500 depending yeah well you can use them forever it's not like yeah well I've had my doers for 10 years so depending on maybe if you have bad luck maybe you'll lose a door but well then this you can get it from cheaper to I just say I wanted a new one okay Leviathan Prem Wow we only have like six or seven yeah so the Geekbench limit was 55 25 okay so you know and Tech Jesus together again just got my gmod baton pint glasses awesome Thank You Ike 44 DK 70 and nice job is it good to keep and I know I have a K at one point four or five volts I mean it's not like good depends on how way your temps are so if you have really good cooling probably not but I won't hurt ya I probably won't hurt it but I mean that's kind of on the high side it is my baby anything lower than one 4i yeah my personal kind of target is like one for for daily max the entire universe one day what happened to doing fan reviews well we just posted an update on the patreon behind-the-scenes section hi Cory Carrasco $1.99 can I use the GN mat with the logitech power play you could put it the power play thing on top of the mat and I don't think it would cause any issues I think that only has an issue if it's a metal surface haven't tried it specifically but I think you just put on top of mash and you find and then last three okay lastly Cory Carrasco wondering I can I use it I got it already Christopher stolen $50 everything like you why don't use a hazmat suit for protection and liquid helium instead I don't know why don't you go to the Arctic Joe why don't you go there and when we cold enough no liquid helium is not very easy to work with and it's also extremely expensive do you think this is expensive it's probably ten times the cost and you also need at least probably around I think it's three people to just even be able to use it and what they really don't tell you too is that you also need to have the components to be able to use it so yeah like just because we can go 196 on this chip doesn't mean we can actually go I think it was like I think 60 or 270 it's like four degrees or it's for Calvin I think you it's much you'd have to do a different type of bidding like mine this Fork is for oh it's for over absolute zero yeah I mean really cold it's really cold so it's very and it's very hard to work with and it's very expensive it's not really to be honest - it'd just be free too much yeah and also it's a huge waste of helium I really uh hardware numbers one of the last to ten dollars quite a push it I was hoping you beat my score well he's got a good shit but send us your chip yeah all right then we'll send it back call mark is in two dollars why no be Kaka justement we answered that but because it was causing timers - yeah which was creating a big time there's no way I can I can do it without ask you hmm or without it getting and I'd rather show you like a good score versus something that's not right so yes so that is it for the super chats thank you again for all the the orders on the store and for watching the stream we're still up like - 187 over there right yeah and right now we're kind of done I'm active out I've tried they're all the different settings actually let's get a shot of all this ice buildup they'll be fine from the high one fitting I wanted to try less of one thing there's a lot of ice on that yeah it's gonna be fun there I haven't holes - don't touch it don't touch it Butthead don't touch it I had a friend do that when we were like we're doing it actually I think it was a 9900 kay we're about to break the arc-15 record and he did they touched it way touched it fell into the rim and it instantly failed right after that I was like no and then ran then then we couldn't get that score back we tried like several times and I was like that's what you don't do that it's so funny so that's the bench I spit of water there oh yeah there's gonna be some times it's actually good with this one because there's no water it's it's just cold yeah but there's probably we also have there's also a lot of a saline under there because remember we were having this setup yesterday where I was like aw it's just too wet than I am I just loaded it up today so that we're hoping that we can fetch the whole time yeah and not have an issue so that's that's gonna be it guys will do another stream tomorrow and oh let me reread this one person says I seriously missed my own super chat I will reread yours just because I caught that yours was thank you so much for actual depth controlled variable testing and included OC grass PS please make an exit Salma ha fat I said we are bumping that higher on our priorities because we got your message and some others so thank you and we will keep doing the control tactic alright so tomorrow 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time I don't care about standard or daylight savings or whatever the time on the East Coast there's one of them that's it's a big coast - I mean like stop it the time in New York let's do that yeah the time in New York City the time in New York City 1 p.m. New York City time yes and how will be tomorrow will not conform so a little under 24 hours from now and we'll be doing the kingpin car and I'll show that one last time well we still have to prep it today so Joe and I saw a long day ahead of us but we haven't done much pre tough any pre testing on this know what I've done yeah so there's the PCB so pretty there's that on to pot and yeah we just gotta prep it and see how far the 20 atti will go with liquid nitrogen but I'm positive that no matter what events will be disappointed in us probably because I'm sure he's I mean he's the king he is the kingpin after all so yeah thanks for watching thanks for buying stuff on the story you can find Joe channel links in the description below you should subscribe to him if you haven't he's got some L&T content and discussion over there also if you want my shirt bearded RDA calm that's right bearded hardware calm to pick up this shirt earlier we talked about how Joe is going to need a another design revision later because when his beard covers up the beard on the shirt he'll have to lower the beard I'll go down here yeah they don't just get awkward so that's it we're gonna stop what OC did he reach 55 50 megahertz yeah our 15 power 15 and I think the memory might be off a little bit so Geekbench is not necessarily the same yeah so four people jump in to the very end here it is 55 50 megahertz 1.7 21.85 volts depending and then 25 12 was our final CinemaScore 3,600 Eckert's memory CL something yeah I think yeah pretty much right cool all right thank you everyone for watching I'm going to end the stream now so check back tomorrow and subscribe for more we'll see you all next time