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Live Delidding of Intel i9-7900X (ft. Der8auer)

2017-05-31
hey everyone we're at the g.skill booze at Computex I am joined by is herb our again it's our second video so the other one might go up later but was an ex OC video this one we're doing something pretty interesting untimely which is a skylake XD wedding right correct ticket so we've got a deal in ER kit from their Bower we're going to show the process of deleting it and show the inside under the IHS I think this will be one of the first few videos out there so you want to check that out before getting to that discovered is brought to you by EVGA and their 1080 TI sc2 card got a link in the description below for more information on that got the icx sensors and the new dual fan design okay so we're going to start the diluting process now we've got the D letter here and we have a what is that ten core chip right yes because when we have a ten core chip and this C litter will work for skylake X and kbx is that correct correct theoretically is also books from quadrillion hastily but I cannot recommend that I mean they were soldered so kind of recommend to me okay so I'm gonna go ahead and give this a try I'm going to pass you the mic so you can narrate and walk me through it yeah alright let's see how it goes so basically just grab the CPU and align the triangle triangle there triangle there yeah so that's very important because if you place it the wrong side there are SMDs underneath the IHS and you would just remove all of them and then this if you would have a problem okay so iran should wrap the hex key and then just start turning turning this yes governor through until can feel some reaction starts turning with a with a hand as well and so this says let's talk about how this works so this this tightens obviously pushes this which is why this is famous steel yes like thank you so you have this you can see it moving so this is the stainless steel part this is all the stainless steel so that's the reason why it's a little bit more expensive but the force you need is really massive so yeah this applies like three times more force that's why we have this lever here we try to do direct push first like pushing directly from this with us true and it didn't work you need it so much pressure is just not possible that's why we had to change the design and make it with a lever so just keep pushing until you can feel some force and then you change the other side of the key and then keep turning until it comes off okay so this is pushing down the other part right here till we start smashing the IHS I guess yeah you should not feel that you need more and more pressure right right you might have to switch yeah I clicked it switch and fly pressure alone what is it's like a five mil should be yeah and what what what's the action once we feel it is there like an audible pop or anything shouldn't be the thing is on the sky like the clue was for some reason a little bit harder as on this trip so you cannot really hear a correct you can just see the IHS moving we feel that you need less force once it's coming off can feel it it's quite la tarea yeah I mean yeah it's definitely taking some pressure now let's see how close are we here so you can see nothing happened so far you can tell by the space between the IHS and a little cap in the corner but you can see nothing happened so far just just keep pushing okay there we hear that sound yeah something pop yes so just screw back take out the CPU and now you should be able to remove the IHS from the from the PCB unite might need a little bit of force as well just try to figure out yeah do it more more MORE fine very cool okay so there's our deleted ten core so we can see they're using thermal paste still and then we've got yeah so what's really interesting is the design of the the CPU itself it's very similar to properly so you can see you have to stack PCB stuff so you have a a small piece of view on the bottom and you have to stack PCB on top which covers the die and you can also see all the SMD parts around the die which make the deleting itself quite complicated and also risky so even with this the litter I personally I would get there is always a chance to remove some of theirs indeed because sometimes I thought I saw that some of the glue is already touching the SMD so this is really risky and considering that there will be like 18 4 CPUs which are like 2000 US dollar right yeah and bigger probably yeah I will try to make it as safe as possible but yeah it's going to be risky anyway so the the die size here we're not really taking up the whole second PCB or substrate but are the the larger CPUs like the 18 cores you expect them to take up more dice or more larger dies for that yeah so the assumption is that the 18 core or 16 and 14 and 12 for are from a higher count die so might be possible that the dice bigger than this might also change the way we have to delete this this is nothing that I have confirmed yet but it's very likely that this is going to happen now very cool all right so that was the deal it in process we've got a deal in hit 10 core here this is the IHS a few things of note I've won obviously this is still thermal face installs been doing this for a while I wish they would stop and do solder because I mean they would I guess it would make your D literate last useful I mean I don't mind if they do it but if the hid solder that'd be nice and he started doing solder on the rise and stuff so come on itself but other than that the once we kind of you know look closer at the substrate for the chip and again there's one of the ten core ones there's a little I don't know just like an icy in the corner or something that is an RFID chip it looks like so I don't know that we we know if that actually does anything right I mean my theory is that you can store information on this so it's an RFID chip I know that so theoretically it should be possible to store information on it like your personal overclocking results maybe but it's just a guess I mean I'm not really sure about that but that could be very interesting as well going back to the solder stuff I would really like to know why into this doing it I mean I'm pretty sure it's not just to save money there there are usually more things behind it for the small dice there was this theory and also the stuff that if you solder on small dice the long time stability for the solder is not that good because you have this expansion and shrinking stuff and eventually it might wreck the solder and then lifespan is not as long you don't have that issue for sure and thermal paste like Colonel pays lifespan is unlimited the thermal paste on this one is I think now Corning it's not as good performing as other paste but it's the disabled so when people are hating on the thermal place I can totally understand that but you also have to keep in mind that it's a very stable thermal place so if you replace it with a other conventional brand it's very likely that the thermal like the temperature will go down over time and you have to repay so that's something you would have to do in a stock into a CPU but my advice is always to go for liquid metal because liquid metal you can save like many degrees Celsius it's amazing you have any any particular liquid metal you recommend personally I always use compact a note because then note it doesn't like harden over time obviously you can go for any other brand as well if you want to but might have to consider that you have to alter replace after a year or something but should all we go yeah very cool so for more information is always you can hit the link in the description below for the article and if you have a like a webstore for this yet not yet it's not yet for sale this is also only a prototype I have to point it out so there are a few small things that will change so it's not that convenient yet to take the CPU out and back in so also it's missing the reviewing unit so there will be something like a frame you put our box so we can replace we glue the IHS so that will be included as well I have to still make it a little bit more stable so people already asked me if this is over-engineered because they look so massive like saying this new part aluminum parts and all this stuff but the force you need to delete this abuse is insane so even that after like 10 or 20 CPUs it's kind of giving up so yeah we'll see so if you want to find out more about this and what Roman doesn't go to his channel which is their Bower on YouTube just search for that thank you for watching as always subscribe for more patreon.com/scishow music stop that directly we'll see you all next time
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