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okay I think we should be live I'm gonna start by saying if there's any any audio issues or video issues let us know immediately also I'd like to address this comment you all chatting away before the stream starts thinking that we don't see what you're saying Sean Crees why does it seem like all the most influential men of our time is named Steve Steve Jobs Steve Wozniak Steve Colbert and Steve Burke well Sean you named Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak both of whom are from Apple the doors over there okay so today we're gonna be live overclocking an Intel Hades Canyon nook how is this how's it all how's the audio and everything let me know how's yours coming we had one person say major issue and no one else said anything so not really sure if they're just saying that or not all right well Shaun Crees respond responded and said ah so I guess that means the audio is working okay yes okay all right so I think we're I think it's working let me try it one more thing before we get going the stay in front of me is the Hades Canyon nook with water cooling on it's pretty cool literally and what I want to do now is try switching scenes we haven't done this for a while so all right we're gonna switch scenes you're gonna see the desktop don't panic can you still hear me that's the question right now I want to know if you can still hear me while we're on the Intel nook desktop scene because that'll make it so we don't have to film the screen directly all right everyone says audio is good that's good to know thank you okay so how is the house all that work I sent a tweet this out one more time we are live over overclocking the Nook okay all right so while we're streaming today everyone says yes okay cool awesome it seems almost professional so let me walk talk to you walk through the thing in front of me here you haven't seen it we have a video on what this is but basically wants unfortunately we can still hear you basically this was supposed to be a portable computer I think I have a let me see I have a shell for it here's the original cooler hang on one second I'll show you this was originally what was on the hades canyon nook so is that your new person already at my feet I really like it actually so that was originally out there it's too blower fans and then there's one second I will I'll get the cooler and this was the heatsink so that's original was on the heaters Canyon Nook and yeah there you get right there so original thermal paste and everything's still on this one we do ahead by the way I have thrown pads of course on the prm's I just left the stock ones on here so that's what was on there and we put on from moonlight mods which is a it's kind of I think it's a hobbyist site and they still sell some stuff but the former danger den folks started that up so he emailed me said hey we have a way better cooling solution than your closed-loop liquid cooler that you had on the hades canyon nook so this is it basically they sent it over this water block right here they try and not flip off the camera so what about it doesn't have a ton of micro fins or anything but it's a it's got some it should be better than the open-loop cooler is that helping so yeah there's your what about a couple of topper fins in there and then underneath we have a 360 ml meter radiator which i think is what everyone pretty much wanted or it it's technically this can fit a 240 not a 280 but I would have had to go downstairs to get a 240 so we went with a 360 it's got a Vardar a Corsair ml 120 and then a tsunami maglev fan on it as well and and that's pretty much the cooling setup so we're hooked up to an EK pump I don't remember what which specific kit this came out of but I always one out of one of their like pre-built preassembled kits UK palm picked up to the Block on the other side we have I can't show you unfortunately easily but it's a skull like face for the for the nook really want to try and rotate this and another 360 rad so the skull face thing is just a it's just a smaller reservoir but it looks really cool and we have video showing that if you're curious alright Chad starting to fill up so we can start overclocking pretty soon I think anyway we've moved on from this thing to that and we originally did a closed loop silent silent loop 280 from be quiet and that performance reasonably as well so yeah I know the intakes a problem yeah so what's one thing I wanted to point out because we have like we're kind of right on the edge of acceptable intake I would like at least an inch but ideally more so the rate the fans are really close to the table but we're gonna try it if I have significant thermal issues we can try and just elevate this a bit and see if it gives us what we need but I think honestly we are going to run into issues first with with the fact that the block is well I fixed it at that but the block doesn't really have that much in the way of micro fins it doesn't have micro fins so the block has like five macro fins so I think we're gonna run into issues there before the actual air flow but we'll see one final update what you didn't see previously I had cryo not on here originally it was just not on my shelf but had cryo not on here I ended up taking off the thermal the cryo not that technically the sponsor for the stream as well took it off and replace it with conduct or not and just put captain thermal tape all around the outside of it and some nail polish so conductor not which is liquid metal is actually working way better for the stream purposes originally we were hitting like and we were capping out thermally pretty fast so I think enough people in here we can kind of get started bill one cello donated a dollar first super chat donation thank you for it very much someone says that is not a full cover water block it is technically on the vrm component so this water block is making contact with the MOSFETs and I do have a thermal pad under it but there's no contact with the chokes and what we're gonna do chokes don't really matter that much but if they start heating in terms of heat they start heating up unreasonably we're going to drop one of these just right up here and blow some air down onto those so other setup components power supply that's shorted so there's a power supply and then a bunch of cables plugged into all the fans just be a molex so that should be pretty much everything you're I'm cooling is done by the cold plate on the block and then I mean there's not like water going through the area where the V arms are contacted but it's still copper it's still water-cooled copper it'll be better than stock so yeah this camera work is next level that'd be Andrew we try to do our live streams with a live camera as well so thank you for noticing anyway let's get started build on Charlotte one dollar donation no words thank you very much bill if you want to send super chat I'll read out your comment if you have a question or anything like that send it through we'll read it as we go through the stream final note before we get started if anyone who buys any GM merch the mod mat or the for example we have new keychains that are just sort of easy swag items ten bucks if you buy any merch while we're live-streaming I'll do a readout of everyone's name sort of intermittently so you'll get a quick shout out first name and where you're from and shirts have been smart restock for the raglan hoodies and also the mod o mod mats and the crystals these rotating glass crystals behind me that have the 3d teardown logo in it it's like 3d laser engraves those are in stock now so is the mod matte so stuff you buy today from from this SKU or from the mod matte so those are all shipping this I guess this week actually so they're here no longer a backorder so let's get started I'm going to try switching scenes and we're gonna see if it works and let me know if it doesn't there's your what cpu are you using to the 79 ATX EMU from the RIP LTT stream then you're going to be very disappointed because it is not a 3980 AXI i don't remember the name of this one it's like 80 809 G or something like that I don't remember exactly but it's it's an Intel this is an Intel Haiti's Canyon unit so it has an Intel CPU and an AMD Vega GPU which is what makes it very unique and interesting to work on and that's the the park yani 1000 Huff I don't know what what Huff is but thank you good to see crate idea wish I could afford the Nook only I know it's really cool it's just it is expensive you pay for the form factor and I have removed everything about the form factor okay so what you're looking at right now is someone says we can't hear anything but I'm hoping that's a joke is is this person full of crap or not I think you can probably hear me but let me know so what we're looking at is intel extreme tuning utility this is the best way it's a overclocked Haiti's Canyon presently BIOS kind of works but it's very limited so this is this is the easiest way and it's through software so we'll have to reboot once we do XMP and stuff like that audios good thank you very much Steve Strasser the moderator and yeah so we're using extreme tuning utility XTU and we're starting right now I have a low resolution set so I can actually read the monitor is 42 for the fastest speed multiplier on one core cache is 39 and all the other stuff is default so actually one major limitation we're going to run into here today is be current currently we're at 125 you can kind of drag this up to 150 you can drag this one up to unlimited for the turbo boost power max option and that'll help a lot but the biggest concern is still going to be the power brake so power brick is 230 watts it's nineteen point five volts I want to say bye where is it nineteen point five by eleven point eight amps so in terms of power you multiply those two numbers volts times amps will give you wattage I think that's 230 watts that's gonna be our biggest limitation and then from there we I'm talking to some people about getting accustomed brick made so no the court there's no overclocking presently so the cores aren't synced in BIOS nothing like that this is all stock other than these two buttons at these two sliders I just changed so let's start with a baseline let's discard these changes and just do a really simple like check the thermals are you stock using Intel drivers using Intel's drivers I don't know why we'd be stuck using them sorry no see run the hardware info while running a 3dmark full fire streak sweep and fire streak fire strike sweep and that will give us a baseline score and then from that score we can figure out the rest so and I'm also gonna let Hardware info run and collect temperatures in the background so it's gonna pop out a few of these so that once it's all done I'll be able to look more carefully at what's going on thermally and make sure that everything is cooled sufficiently so we have h BM h BM 2 on this we have the sort of Vega sort of Polaris GPU thermals then we have one core core zero thermals that should be about the hottest so let's run fire strike and see what we get for that for baselines that will give us a score then we're gonna try and beat that score and go up I don't think we're gonna be doing a rip LTT with Hades Canyon but I'd really like to hit let's set a goal I'd like to hit I think 10,000 points just pulling a nice easy number out so let's hope for that and see what we can get all right so yeah just buy a 20 volt 500 watt on ebay and solder or screw the extra thick cable on there we're talking evil that making one properly eurocom if you're familiar with them we'll see if they come through for me I have another power supply off to the side here it's repair for a laptop technically it fits in terms of plug size and it's 240 watts so if 10 extra Watts gets to something I can switch to that later but for now we'll see how far this gets us what's the difference because here from from super chat let me read those while this runs oh yeah Dead BC 77 says my keychain has shipped awesome that's great to hear because they just got in a couple days ago I just did a quality check on a bunch of stuff and everything looked good so stupid chat donation caramel the fussy calico two dollars says eat it sounds about right for a cat one dollar I don't know if that's one one dollar a I don't know what that is no message was that from our B thank you RV Gavin one dollar thank you no message dooda dooda dooda to slamming your keyboard for the name of two dollars compared Lennox for his Windows for gaming performance not on this not today we lost signal I don't know what happened but now I couldn't compare Linux and Windows right now so let me figure out let me troubleshoot this what we we've looked at I mean I use Linux for our web server but I don't know a whole lot about it from a consumer standpoint so unfortunately I'm not really the best qualified for that you'd probably really like why is it fir onyx that's all right is that right yeah fur on excite they do really good Linux benchmarking so I definitely recommend checking that out and they do they they're the leading publication for Linux I think the HDMI setups potentially screwy we'll figure it out where's case we film the screen but yeah Linux is fantastic for our web server and stuff like that I just I haven't used it for as a consumer and quite I used to use it as my daily on a laptop for specifically an old version of Ubuntu 10.04 --n if it is then while in transit from the other room something might have gotten disconnected we'll find out soon next question is from up came back cool yeah I think it's not liking putting out the two monitors honestly it's kind of asking a lot of the Nook next question was from Gabriel Rodriguez I love this show take my money five dollars thank you very much Gabriel so we're gonna try this one more time with two outputs going and if it's no good then I'll have to unplug the in stream video so let's see a loop let's do windowed mode not loop in and run and that'll let me make sure it's not a thermal limitation which would indicate that something came loose but we should be okay there in theory although it's getting a bit warm essent yeah the next question was from the park Yanni who said now 400 HUF Huff is Hungarian forint 1 USD equals 270 thank you ok so see if this is a thermal thing or why I guess I can switch back to that stream view as well oh it says no signal that's great ok thank you very much it's still running as you can see with the camera but we're getting no signal out of the capture card so whatever that's fine all right Ziggy 5canadian keep up the good work my dude thank you very much Reve five dollars euros says greetings from Funland parenthesis Finland - keep up the good work thank you greetings to you as well we don't have thermal issues so these are the ones to look at get a couple of spikes here but nothing terrible yet we are I want to move this to the left side of the screen so you can see it a bit easier since we're having those couch card issues so we're kind of bouncing around between the 30s and the 50s depending this is I think should be all stock settings right now yes we're all stock settings so just kind of doing a check on these thermals and where's GPU here's some motherboard temperatures you know we should plug in as the other fan on top and then we also have GPU and HBM temperatures right here it's a 33 and 32 presently so we're good thermally but let's did you borrow bzees capture card yeah I think he has the same issues right yeah I don't know it's like whenever you have stuff that crashes capture cards get kind of confused so not the best idea for overclocking but we can still film the screen next one Tom this Brahmas MIT's while this is running and run it getting our baseline number for a non overclocked but I guess we're getting baseline throws make sure it all works Thomas says 50 Norwegian kroner says hello from Norway really like your job and your personality I want to buy a signed mod mat not because I need but because I just wanted what CPU you know what it's not a 79 80 XE okay I'm sorry it's sorry to disappoint you actually need to see what it is that I'm curious now because I haven't checked since the review i-78 something is 788 oh 9 G can't blame me for not remembering it eighty eight oh nine G and then there's Vega mgh in this unit there's also a Vega mg L which has I think fewer fewer ciues so I have not tested that yet I've asked for it but they didn't get me one and they're hard to find in stock so that's what we've got for the CPU even though you're trying to start trying to start a meme but if everyone gives me two bucks and asks what cpu I guess I'm fine with that jack right when ten dollars hook up to a car battery we could probably we could probably do that might be a bit a bit on the extreme side okay so we got a baseline finally temperatures looked pretty okay the whole time I'm just scrolling up to the CPU temperatures give me a second yeah so we're like 22 sixty-five these numbers right here are the distance from TJ Max oh you care about these ones and then here's our baseline score graphics 95 71 physics twelve thousand so we'll see if we can get beyond that let's start with a simple overclock all I'm going to do to first of all you might be interested in this for any of you who have done any Vega overclocking or just even AMD or Avakian this is kind of funny to me still this is the AMD software clearly but it's branded as Intel so first time I opened it it's kind of like what's what's happening I don't understand what's happening but it's actually just wot man and it's an easy way still to control these components or just needs that for now anyway this is the default frequency curve through watt man for the Vega mgh GPU and our stock memory frequency caps at 800 megahertz we have Headroom to boost that to a thousand will kind of figure out what stability is on the stream today and then we've got a power target that you can go up to 75% offset so right now we're gonna run stock GPU settings and just mess with this with stock GPU settings if I didn't say that correctly then just mess with the CPU so options typical reference clock all the stuff you see in BIOS BIOS for this hades Canyon Nook is actually lacking a few things so I could not for the life of me find any current or power limitations couldn't find them in BIOS so we're going through the software to unlock those so we're lying 150 amps processor core ICC Macs and we're allowing unlimited power for the unlimited power the pawls hardware quote of Star Wars for the turbo boost and then turbo boost window I think this max is at 96 but it's only gonna let us do 80 so we'll do 80 for that that's just from knowing that from experience and now let's just kind of let's sleep voltage as is and let's just go up to let's go up to 45 for all core so 45 all core and that's coming up from like 39 to 41 or so and I think we'll leave the cash ratio alone for now and bring that up in a minute and we're leaving the IGP alone because we're using the AMD GPU so let's apply this there's our settings should be four point five gigahertz and GPU is stock let's get a baseline for that one and probably start saving these somewhere - okay I'd be nice to have hardware info going it will open and then all we're gonna do is just again establish right now we're at four point five gigahertz CPU so let's establish just a CPU score because really nothing else is gonna matter okay so physics 4.5 gigahertz go while that's running I'll read read some chat see ya 39 the forty one or two or something like that can use Walkman to overclock the CPU actually no it it functions just like wow man normally does so it's GPU overclocking and it has all the same options that wot man normally does and nothing extra it's just it's just branded as Intel doesn't actually do anything with Intel other than the AMD GPU tuning I guess ok so while that's running got a scroll up we're getting a lot of super chats thank you very much Greg Zee 83 would be awesome if was a total kit with 240 rad oh this this case yeah so I don't know if they I don't think they sell it moonlight mods if you want to visit them I think is just moonlight mods calm they basically just sent this to me because they thought it'd be cool to see it used I don't think they're not really like a big retailer or anything like that it's it's basically one guy and they just make cool stuff with a laser cutter which I'm totally up for so I don't know if they sell it but it'd be sweet if they did that's probably not a high enough volume part but yeah it can fit a 240 it actually be a great daily driver just because it'd be kind of fun and unique one more here before we get back to that Jack Lee says what's the different between a scene and intel extreme tuning and in the BIOS $5.00 thank you very much I think I described some of that BIOS on the Nook specifically it's Intel's visual BIOS you probably haven't heard of since their motherboards died and that just means it's UEFI and it is it lacks power control options we can actually go through it in a bit and it lacks some of the other processor overclocking options also you can't do much with the Vega M GPU through there so softer is better for GPU for sure physics cores so previously we had a physics core in the 12 thousands for the stock baseline test we're already at 14,000 so we've gained quite a bit and and if you want to take note of the fps I guess 44.5 the 14,000 is what our physics core is for 4.5 gigahertz so you know I'm gonna make just a notepad file so we can kind of reference this stuff as we go later stock physics score and then 14k at 4.5 gigahertz which is what I say 44.5 - yes fine 5 - fps so let's just save that scores and let's go ahead and do a bit more now and ask more of it where is hardware info why can't I why can't I have it let's try and revive hardware info as well while we're at it I guess ok it thinks it's running but it's not thank you windows there we go so let's get this running it'll take a bit out of the CPU score but not much and I just want to see what kind of temperatures we're dealing with while this is going on let's go up to 46 4.6 gigahertz and let's also increase this to 43 actually 242 I'd like to stay for below the core multiplier so are 4 below let's see if we can do that without increasing the voltage or the reference clock so it's applied then you can see it actually applies live which it's easier to validate with hardware info so there you go when it boots it goes up to 4.6 and it'll stay boosted to 4.6 when we're running the test voltage if you're curious idle is not very high let's let's open one of its open one of these and check it after the and then I guess we gonna run windowed as well because we're just doing physics tests so windowed that will allow again we'll lose we'll drop a couple points but it's not a big deal because we're not really competing for anything right now so I'll let that start up next super chat was from bill one cello e the letter letter e from bill it's one of the greatest mysteries of super chat $4.20 thank you very much for the 4/20 I appreciate it next one Ben Quigley two dollars two quid says want a crystal soon my pretty soon yeah they're in stock we have the big ones that are three pounds and heavy enough for hand down combat and then we have the the medium crystals as well on store doc gamers nexus net if you aren't curious yeah there it is right now so those are a 3d laser engrave they're actually really sweet or pretty happy with it for a merge item if you want something more functional than the mod matte you can also get asteroid I can't resist on that and I'll shout your name out if you buy something before the stream ends score 14,000 18 no real change but what we care about is all of this hardware info stuff so if you're curious about voltage cord 0v ID i should have opened up v core we're going up to 1.3 just tube you curious and it is coffee like prop or architecture so voltage behavior is gonna be about the same it's just that this small unit can't normally deal with that much heat because it's got that small cooler on it it's sufficient for what it is but not for what we're doing today anyway max temperatures in the 70s up to 80 getting kind of warm kind of fast so we might want to boost the the unit a bit higher off the table i think that's going to restrict our airflow of it we're gonna leave GPU and not overclocked or now we'll do that last and let's get X to you back up so no real change with right like 14k flat with 4.6 so let's just kind of keep that in mind now and the 42 cash so let's push this to 4.7 and see if it'll hold I think we're gonna start getting the territory where I need to increase the voltage this is where our max was with the CL see the 280 CL see we had previously we could not get past 4.7 if we hit 4.8 it was very briefly so that's kind of gonna be our max I think but we'll see my goal would be I'd love to hit 4.9 and be crazy to hit 5.0 I think we'll hit power limitations though so let's try that 4.7 give us a baseline it's probably not gonna change a whole lot but it'll help us understand performance of it and we're gonna drop some points with hard ground fill open as well 6-3 C says can the RGB base for the crystal show in a white think so you know where that is you can test it right now but I'm almost positive yeah it does I'm almost positive those white where do you see it now right here yeah I need USB that's not gonna work that's RGB pretty sure it does white but it's got three LEDs in it and it might have a fourth that's four LEDs in it so ya think so next one Neil Manning love this channel especially the hardware news that's good to hear because we're filming one after this video five dollars thank you very much Neil filming a hardware news tonight after the stream ends we'll go up tomorrow there's actually some really cool news items for this one like teaser micron had conversations with the Chinese government about price fixing so I'll be fun to talk I actually don't know the full news item yet it was we've got it written down but I haven't read through it yet alright so our results 14 to 7 24 margin of error there type of decimal might as well take the whole thing 14 to 25 that's at 4.7 with a 42 cache how are we putting our moles maxing out 85-82 still doing pretty well so our water block is helping a lot before just to give you an idea previously with the 280mm in your closed loop cooler that I zip tied to it then there's a video on the channel about that if you're curious also video of building this one previously at that frequency these numbers were in the 90s so we're definitely ahead already quite a bit ahead let's do I think this is where we're gonna start crashing so prepare your f key for respect let's try 4.8 without any voltage changes okay well Wow this F key for respects everyone F key for respect so it did not like 4.8 and now we're getting signature validation failure so let's restart we're gonna have to increase the voltage a bit and I'm just gonna need to restart actually we can jump into BIOS to does come people were curious about what it looks like Stephen you're oh yeah yeah let me try and catch this while I'm also slamming up to you this is just a normal chat Mayfest DHS says Stephen your HC review you mentioned the lack of similar products from other vendors now that GP P is dead have you heard of any other vendors moving ahead with new products like HC I'm actually I'm assuming you mean Hades Canyon I'm actually not no I haven't heard anything special but I don't know that I would be privileged to that information yet because Computex is where we're leaving in like three days to go to Taiwan maybe four so if there is anything special we should hear it there in theory but definitely a Hades can use a threat to end video cuz it's really good this this cables messing us up one second still streaming yes okay all right the second HDMI cable monadic was confusing it so it was outputting to the streaming PC instead of the monitor stream is still good yes all right cool so yeah I don't know I haven't heard anything about new like unique products so we'll hopefully find out in a week if there is anything okay sir booting into BIOS hopefully it'll give me a display out there it goes I've got it this time last time I was outputting to this to the stream PC so here's the visual BIOS for the nook if you haven't seen it it's really not very special the one feature I like a lot is the search feature and I don't I've used it a bit and it doesn't tend to work very well so the problem is they had a great idea for a feature and it's just kind of it's super slow by the way that's not stream wait and see that's like okay this is okay I don't think I need to type anymore to prove my point I was gonna say this is the speed that it types very slow super cool idea does not work unfortunately so anyway that's a cool feature of the BIOS you take screenshots just like normally this is basic good advanced bio it's got a couple more things so they have cooling performance for all the stuff you can go to performance tab and mess around with the processor some of the features from X to you are exposed here but not all of them so we are like I said we're missing we're missing the power controls to some extent we're missing a lot of them anyway so yeah this is not the greatest BIOS in the world XT is surprisingly good and we're gonna keep using that instead a graphics tab doesn't do a whole Hut enables and disables the Intel integrated graphics memory tab gives you some exposed timings and also XMP options but not a ton of here either there's enough to work with though so anyway if you're curious about BIOS that's what it looks like and we're just gonna work with X to you for the rest who approved this feature someone says about the search yeah I mean it is like it is genuinely I like the idea a lot but it needs to work like if it takes just as long for the letters to show up as it does for me to click every single menu item look for the thing I want it's not very helpful I don't know if it's just because it's like bloated or what anyway next question is from Joey rizz she says that $5.00 thank you very much sup man first time I check I'm on the stream but I love the channel has helped me with my build check out my channel for my am The Horizon 2700 X 4.5 gigahertz results 4.5 is awfully high I'll have to see what you did to get that if it was exotic cooling or what or or single core or something like that radiantly yellow $5 we're rebooting by the way please do a review or comparison on various thermal pays for his thermal grizzly thermal paste I've done they don't pay its testing and it's really hard to show a difference so the problem is they're all compound testing with why are we preparing an automatic repair come on windows thrown compound testing is very difficult to do because the you're looking for like one two three degrees difference in some of the high-end pace so you can definitely see differences and really bad stuff there's really good stuff but to see to really control for the CPU and control for the environment you kind of want a synthetic test apparatus basically like copper plates with like a diode in it okay we're now if the reset BIOS through BIOS I guess so we are using BIOS kind of ideally build a custom setup though that will allow you to control the power of like a copper plate rather than using a computer so you're just using a heating element and some diodes and that would be the ideal way to test their own pace but it exits real world pretty quickly and it requires some machining work to do the way I want so we haven't done anything like that yet alright so what we need to do is reset defaults hopefully it actually work sometimes that button does not work in this BIOS what does it think me still thinks 4.8 okay there we go so let's see if that resets it enough to boot hopefully okay cool next question David Mack make 2 euros alert oh let's scroll the way why he ative I learned a lot from you keep up the good work thank you very much David a secret recipe $1 no message thank you see your recipe caramel the fussy calico thick nook that's the new on a trail features $5 trail features sounds like a mountain biking channel love that you all do stuff like this Intel IGP performance and Adobe video is also great I will be swapping my sevens 902 an i7 87 hunt came when I submitted for a dual boot Windows 10 system or Oh X system very cool yeah we might have some more content on the IGP stuff I've done some comparison like quality comparisons of the outputs and IGP output versus like software versus CUDA all pretty much looks the same something's going screwy here and from the setting I apply so we're gonna let it boot get into XT immediately this time and restore defaults family needed more voltage on that last one yes so quality looks all the same between those as far as like YouTube is concerned you might see quality differences if you're talking huge bit rates like movie quality outputs but I don't think we're really worried about that doesn't say no to cancel on the town - yes - enter setup okay so yeah I think I GP is a great solution for the kind of stuff we do anyway all right let's get this thing booted this time one super chat while it boots I five two hundred II Japanese what is it yen I'm a big fan of you from Japan thank you very much I need to pay attention to it this time so we can get in text to you and make sure it's not freaking out about something all right oh yeah there's my assistant name mother not Carrie I wonder if anyone would notice that I don't know if anyone said anything yet please do oh yeah x2 you does that's here it's like it'll say that it failed load but it actually doesn't show values okay I think it's actually back to the faults now that's good all right so we got stuck at 48 and even more voltage so let's do that let's start with just going back up to 46 and then we'll go up to 48 with some more voltage on the core I'm gonna go kind of heavy on the voltage because I don't want to spend all stream fine-tuning for like a let's actually bring this down to 41 just in case I want to fine tune for like a point oh one voltage difference or anything like that so we're gonna go a bit heavy-handed for this stream all right that should be good just to get us to 46 and make sure there's no new issues I don't know about and let's just validate that anyone when talking about the nickname knock knock who's there your mom so bad you wouldn't sound like not I can appreciate it nonetheless all right so just making sure everything's still functional physics windowed let 3dmark recheck all the options when I don't want it to you okay so we're establishing that 46 still works we'll go up to 48 bill on cello $2 thank you so much bill again we'll use suck my neck I don't know what that means but it sounds gross Jennifer Roger $10 for post stream tacos chicken beer coffee looking forward to the copy text content thank you very much I think that's becoming our thing now is chat donates money tells us what to buy with it and then we have to eat a lot of food apparently that was fun stream that when we did that I think that was a rip lgt stream right was starving because we were over clogging for so long I can barely see the numbers we're getting 70e I'm sorry I didn't mean on a carry and I'm personally although I can read the stream now thermal numbers are acceptable 14,000 okay we're back where we should be so let's do let's do a bit of voltage stuff this goes up to 80 should not matter though and the voltage let's drag that one up point 0:07 like I said I'm going to have you handed intentionally so I don't want to spend the whole time turning that it's 247 and then let's do 48 once it refreshes okay 48 it's right 0.07 voltage offset for core and you can actually if you're curious we can run see let me just open up one of these VI D's it'll be enough and then there's our course so we'll check all that once you're done benchmark fire strike physics go so we're trying to 4.8 we'll see last time blue screens and read through this to see if we can get past that and also not be overheating okay so I was someone earlier a lot like towards the started to scream I just remember this asked what our internet speed is for this we're at a gigabit up right now so I think YouTube and my Lou's testing accepts up to like 300 megabits per second for uploads I don't it probably doesn't accept that for a live stream but yeah we're at gigabit right now so next one Tom's Browns it's 50 kroner a Norwegian kroner can you tell a product shipping cost for mod mats in Norway basically Europe I don't have it on the table my off thought my head but if you go to the site you can still add it to the cart and you can type in where it's going without having to commit to buying it and then that'll calculate it accurately for you I don't I it's pretty expensive for us to ship to Europe but we certainly do it and we've brought cost down recently so that's good just the volume has allowed us to bring cost down a bit because the carrier's not charging us as much but you can check on the site Gabriel Rodriguez TR watt threader for one or threader for two or wait for cascade like I need Kors $2 sauce I think I don't know anything our cascade Lake oh he's stable by the way 14 482 that was just for one physics test so let's just taking out of that I don't know about cascade Lake honestly and I know it really depends on what you need like if you if today you're trying to get work done and you can't because your systems just not enough for you then build today because if it's costing you money because you can't work or something then that's obviously going to be worth getting up and running if you can wait you're pretty happy with your system it does what you want you can wait till August I think that's when threader for two ships so that might be worth waiting for but otherwise thread everyone is just fine kind of depends on how urgently you need a system 49 we do go 49 now or do we let's do another stability check first so let's let this run a little bit longer this time and just do a loop of the physics test let it run like three and then I'm gonna check some of the numbers while it's running for which I'm going to have to drag this to the right so that I can actually see it okay so 0.07 voltage offset right now in V core puts V ID vid is at one point three five ish one point three four certainly getting up there again it's coffee like architecture still so you know one point four is kind of gonna be where we hit a wall four point eight gigahertz that's successful what other numbers we have cores are getting a bit warm we might want to elevate this system a bit I think so we are at starting to hit 90s we hit 90 for once I want to keep it below that but it's okay for right now and this is also without any GPU load so that's gonna become a problem and then GPU it should be basically nothing because it's not really doing anything yeah GB is 27 hbm's 26 so we're just starting to throw a wall pretty quickly here and I think for that we can elevate the system a little bit how long and why does the mod matte it's four feet by two feet so that's it's it's a large mat covers most of this table so it's four by two other specs like that are on the site as well I'm just going to let this thing loop a little bit to make sure it's stable at four point eight and then we'll try higher to four point nine all right next question Ben Grogan five quid has fractal forgotten they were doing a type c front i over the define are six on launch they said January release about to hit June and still nothing I honestly don't remember did the defiant uh yeah I think that are six didn't have type C right it's been a while since we look at that case I am not sure I can ask them what's up with that and see if they have any news for us but yeah that's a good point I haven't heard about it either maybe someone else can type in chat if they've seen something I don't follow all the news there we go not stable okay that's gonna that's a really good luck in screen so let's restart that see if it's freaking out still Jaso we need some more voltage basically Jason Christophe you have OCD for our sins please absolve the chat they need it you only gave 4.99 unfortunately to absolve Chad I require 5.0 dollars Oh one thing I should note about this I'm a little afraid of crashes like that one because the Nook seems to really dislike crashing from over clocks that are at an inappropriate voltage because I actually had it it killed an entire OS I had to reinstall windows and everything made system restore point so hopefully if we have to do that it'll be quick but yeah it gets very unhappy with a bat with an unstable overclock it'll just blow everything away so I'm a little worried about that happening during stream but we'll just try it that's part of why I mean heavy-handed on the voltage all right so max max 80 and then offset Oh someone asked why not static voltage because I can't it's the only reason there's a lot of stuff that's not possible with the Nook so we're just doing offsets and there might be a way out to look harder but what does this question mark doesn't even say anything what does this say yeah I don't know maybe in BIOS we can fix the voltage but that's lacking other options and we'll take forever let's go point oh eight definitely gonna start running into thermal concerns apply for four point seven let's go up to forty eight X cash ratio I'll leave low for now if it's a problem we'll deal with it then alright 3d mark so see if this is stable this time next question is if I want to elevate the case what should I use to elevate it I have power e power brakes soldering irons and fans I guess we can use fans to elevate it so is it going to be stable this time okay let's find out we're going for four point nine we're at four point eight right now I'm kind of having some stability issues really close to what I want I'd love 5.0 I just don't know if it's gonna be doable because that's gonna be a lot of power it's all right let me get back to these from it clone fire 666 oh wow that was so just to bring us back Jason Kristoff gave 499 and said you've OCD for our sins please absolve the chat they need it and then clone fire said scent 666 so you've got two opposing forces here and they said one hell of a setup thank you clone fire yeah I really like this thing this is like it'd be fun to have on the desk I don't know if I'd want to use it as a daily but it's it's good it's good enough for it price Newburgh five dollars why has no one asked the most important question what audio processing unit if he does this year's JK yeah I I am that said so and I don't actually if anyone's curious I genuinely don't know what audio chip it has on it and that's something I've hated on g2 but that said I'm interested to see if what kind of a peas are getting like the PS 5 the Xbox the Xbox 2x for the Xbox 1 X 2 X Box 1 X 2 so what you heard it here first Mac Samson 279 Canadian thank you very much no message Daniel Ellerbee Rock hey Steve love the videos your content really inspired me to pursue a career in computer hardware cheers that's awesome I hopefully you like it it's pretty fun there are a lot of different jobs like for people anyone who's kind of interested in the field but doesn't know what you can do there are a lot of jobs in technical marketing on PR that don't require a degree necessarily but do require knowledge or well if they don't you should have it you'll be a leg up if you do so anyone who's like pretty good with the technical side of computers but maybe doesn't feel qualified to be an engineer there are a lot of jobs in tech marketing and we work with some great people in that side of that field so that's one I like to point it out because it's not something that I think is it's not a job you think about existing if you're outside the industry so a lot of media people go and work as tech marketing eventually which I'm not planning to do but just to give you an idea of a skill set they typically have that is a giant Delta Corps one in the sixties versus two and the 90s is that from utilization or is that from uneven contact well they're all a high percent load so it might be a utilization which I can't do a lot about on stream because if I tighten it too much it'll crack that interposer so anyway we'll deal with it for now so we're pretty stable at this point 0.08 volts 4.8 gigahertz and now let's do a let's do a proper full run and just see what kind of score we have before GPU overclocking all right actually before any additional overclocking let's run that just see what we get Thomas O Hara this is nucking futs love the content Steve Thank You Raj for the $2 Vincent she called that Vincent then risen when all done let build Zoid lnto EXO see this knock I mean yeah there'd be a lot of fun but it's talked about it definitely with like a benchtop power supply with enough amperage which those are expensive to do 15 amps or more or a custom power break which we're trying to get made you could you could probably do something with it under LNT oh that would be fun but if you missed it by the way earlier I was talking about power bricks so power brick is nineteen point five volts eleven point eight amps comes out to 230 watts we have another laptop break that's 240 watts won't do a ton for us 10 watt extra though I am working with eurocom to try and get a custom brick made for this then so after after combi tax you might have won two dollars from trail features yep mountain biking loved your Whistler vids thank you very much yeah the GN steep side channel I'll be uploading more mountain like downhill mountain biking videos throughout the summer now that the seasons open again after Computex but G unseen for the side channel be curious two dollars from fit exhibitor to hitting the keyboard thank you spectre-5 dollars no message thank you trying to catch up on super chats while this thing runs its full pass kotomi waters $2.00 SoundCloud Toby music to overclock Tito GN rock five dollars from Socrates says love your channel is it 79 80 XC by the way cheers from France no no it's not a 79 80 XC a 79 80 XE would be like like 30 percent of this another board that'd be really cool though so yeah they'd be a gigantic portion of the board let me track the oh there's a lot of store purchases I need three two so like I said I'll read anyone who buys stuff from store that gamers Nexus dotnet we're about to run the physics test so this is where we'll see if it dies or not stored on camera Nexus net if you buy during the stream I'll read off first name and where you're from as a shout out while while we're live-streaming so this is running physics it has this one that may be combined and we'll see if it's stable at 4.8 going for 10,000 points for the total score we'll see how close we can get I'd like to see 9800 but we'll find out I need to every clock the GPU still first order to read off Thomas gave from a Texas Thank You Thomas purchased an autographed GN mod my I think that might've been the last one we had I signed a couple more the other night and I'm not gonna be able to get out there to sign more until after copy Texan I might restock them but if you buy one at this point a signed mod mat then it would ship after I'm back from commies XL have to drive out and sign it and otherwise the normal mod mats are still fully in stock Thank You Thomas for that we've got combined house running behind me that's the last one before we can see what our progress and score is yet we're out of the signed ones I might add more of those and just sign them if everyone's okay with it when I get back William from Germany I know the United States but it's got a de in it I think it's I don't know if that's a military base I think it is last time someone told me it's a military base AFB de I think that's a military base or something William bought a great logo tri-blend t-shirt thank you William what was our tribe line yeah try ones very popular everyone seems to like that one the most score 84 89 so I said I want 10,000 we're at 8,500 currently let's take a look at all of our scores here the graphics ninety nine seventy four physics 14,000 seven one seven that's pretty good that's up from where we were combined three thousand so if you want a point of reference let me just keep the camera on those scores for a second I'm gonna read you some other scores that we have so CPU testing let's get a physics score so what do I say we're at fourteen thousand seven one seven so let me give you some some perspective here the AMD are five fifteen hundred X at four gigahertz this is a this was tested quite a while ago before the latest Windows patches that was getting a physics score of 13,500 the Intel i5 8600 K at 5 gigahertz was getting about 16,000 so this number right here 14 seven one seven on the 8600 K at five gigahertz that is 15 nine nine four so that gives you something we're pretty close to an eighty six hundred K let me find one right around where that is what's below it 8600 case stock we got thirteen thousand three hundred and these numbers haven't been updated since we reviewed the 8600 k but that gives you a baseline of where we're sitting let me give you a high on baseline as well top of our charts we have a this is from back when we reviewed the Red Rivers so it's whoa actually that's really old data let me get something a bit newer are seven twenty seven hundred X overclocked to 4.2 gigahertz for that one we got twenty two thousand for the physics so there's your perspective and then GPU score I only give you one on those so GPA score is 99 74 to get you an idea of that graphics score we had the msi 1050 TI what they call OC but we didn't know C it was pre shipped that way and it wasn't big overclock anyway 1050 Ti at 77 85 so we're actually ahead of a 1050 Ti what about a 1060 1060 I just have a giant spreadsheet open I'm checking right now 1060 SSC got 13,000 411 so we're between we're closer to a TI than a 1060 but we're between them and then what's gonna and e number as well rx 570 was 12,000 560 so we're below 570 and above a 560 back quite a bit 560 overclocked we got 60 900 so there's your scores and your points of comparison let's get this number closer to 10,000 and to do that we're gonna start playing around with the GPU now I'm gonna push that TV to four point nine a bit later but I want to we get bigger gains from the GPU so let's start there so first of all we're going to change this to dynamic and then I try and get this visible for everyone so we're currently have eleven ninety megahertz so let's just previously with the closed loop cooler I know it was stable at 13:30 this is kind of hard to read sorry about that so I know it was stable there you by the way this feature you can't like click these and set min and Max like you can with the AMD GPUs unfortunately I know we can do nine 50 megahertz on the HP m2 which is 50 megahertz below the max and then we also need power offset by 75% let's apply that let's see if it's stable again we're starting to get kind of close to our thermal limits here so at some point I am gonna have to elevate this thing so I can breathe better actually maybe I should do that now what can I rest this on maybe the Liang Li metal Caged fans let's see if playing out the best idea to mess with this right now actually I don't wait till we can turn it off for a second let's do the head so I don't want to send a cable into the one of the fans while it's cooling things there's there's your your update on all the stats for everything okay so we got a couple more super chats when you catch up on while that's benchmarking sensor negative for 99 any indications that AMD will be up to their old embargo shenanigans with the upcoming threader for to release I have no idea with the 2700 X and Li was pretty agreeable we got it we circumvented them got it anyway through someone else I messaged Andy and I said hey I have the CPU do you want to work with me so that if I have questions I can ask and they were actually awesome to work with so Andy has changed some of their media facing people and it seems like things I talked about this in an ask jian episode but it seems like things are getting better over there in terms of like marketing and PR and being able to work with people on a review so I don't know what they're gonna do for thread over to but as I understand it the current staff there at least a couple of them don't want to do what happened with the threader for Wan where you have like 18,000 embargoes and some people get a special one even though everyone has the part so I think they've gone away from that clifton ward $2 steve lowell love the chest steve the skank lo love the channel man thank you very much i guess hurry 16 5 euro i learned so much watching your channel I went from fanboy and a red company to accepting a blue and a green company as options now thanks Tech Jesus yeah it's totally cool MD makes great stuff these days especially Rison super competitive this is halfway and Andy product Intel and AMD work together on a Vega and an i7 basically amalgam they still make great stuff but definitely is good to be you know by oh it's good for you and not just stick to one company you got to look out for yourself to use that's the companies are only looking out for themselves Vincent van region build Zoid connect so see with an e power no brick needed yeah I guess that's true but also I I want this to not be dead but will sound it out I'll talk to him the martinc123 is it surviving yes it is surviving right now we're on the combined test by the way with a GPU overclock the Martin C one two three five quid for the whiskey shots thank you Martin for that Jack Lee 499 not sure if you have answered this what's the difference between overclocking using the bios and intel extreme tuning and do they fight each other i think i did explain that earlier i will vary did it pass i think it passed i went black yeah it passed okay awesome I went over I'll very briefly covered again power limits are more exposed and extreme tuning utility they shouldn't fight each other because once you boo it's gonna pull from BIOS so our score is 9650 that's quite a bit up from earlier start saving these so I can reference them we're at 13 30 megahertz GPU 4.8 gigahertz CPU no memory overclocking yet so I was going for 10,000 right 9650 that's getting there graphics core 11,000 436 CPU hasn't really changed because I have an overclocked it and one more time I'm gonna give you a reference for GBA score it's a graphic score we are at 11 for 36 which is 2,000 points below a 1060 so like 1020 percent in that range somewhere and our x5 70s at 12 560 so a thousand points below and rx 570 that's pretty damn good I would say that is super nice I would buy a mouse mat someone says by the way yeah so this is a mod mat that I'm using right now technically I'm using mice on it we don't advertise it as a mouse in service because it's really traction II it's a work mat super well I mean this one has some bloodstains on it from my scent when I sanded down that Rison apu it does not come with bloodstains that's extra but super tractioning mat very resistant to things like spilling liquid cooling on it and also somewhat to heat as we showed in a recent video I also you have stored up gamers X's on that for those mouse mat someone said they wanted we are looking into those actively that's our score let's do a bit more overclocking on this I'm gonna get back to super chat in a minute if you're waiting for me thank you for being patient so currently 950 is our HBM configuration and our cpu sorry our GPU a clock not CPU is 13 30 so let's just be kind of conservative and go up to 1350 and the score to beat is 96 50 11400 for graphics core if you are I think this specific benchmark we're doing is free so if you kind of want to play along you can go to 3d Mark's website and download fire strike they're not a sponsor or anything I just really like the software I think this version is free and you can run the test yourself if you want to see what your own graphics core is so you can kind of tag along and see how it compares to this thing alright so just because it's kind of fun to do that I think everyone can have some overclocking fun last time we did it we brought down the 3d mark website by accident with the rip Ltd stream so we've gone up 20 megahertz to see if it crashes last time I crashed around here someone says blood not included knock that that's business idea sell your used mats why so someone get my DNA out of it clone me how much for mod mats signed in blood I'll pay $50 extra for your blood sample I'll pay $100 extra with bloodstains and a pentagram into the raft okay that's getting a weird Jackley our answer that one Specter does the motherboard have a PSU power limit Trident gtx 960 version does so I could not upgrade to a 330 watt brick I am not fully sure I know what you mean does the motherboard have a power supply power limit you should be able mate I don't know what the OEM is deal with their proprietary stuff mind you I don't pay attention to what Dell and HP and all them do these days if you buy any board off the shelf you should be able to pretty much plug any power supply into it as far as how much power can it take before there's a problem yeah there are there are over current limits so you could trip over current protection if you're like let's say I just had this happen the other day let's say you're working with a 79 80 Hz which is a huge power consumer and you push like 50 amps to it with an overclock a good amount of PS use will trip and shutdown and that's run over current limits so I don't know if that's what you mean sometimes you can control that through software if it's like a digital power supply like the ax 1600 I or something sometimes you can't so there might be an overcurrent protection limit certainly the motherboard can only take so much like if you're feeding if you're dumping current into the VR ends and it's not like it vrm it'll kind of have a limit in that it will thermal shutdown at some point and won't be able to tolerate it anymore okay so next one hi who Apple says keep up the good work 5 euros by the way cpu are you using ATM gee I don't know I'm gonna memorize it by the end of the stream if you guys keep asking 88 Ong it's supposedly an i7 it's a I think it's actually a fork or a thread I'll check in a minute though on this test is done ye cannae de that 5 quid hey Steve I don't need a big mod map but would totally buy a GN Mouse back consider making some yes we are actively doing that thank you for your interest we're just I'm being very picky about the materials so we're trying we're trying to do something more special than just like buy it off the shelf and put a label on it so it's going to take a little while because I need samples need to figure out what materials we're combining exactly people seem to really want the stitching around the borders so I think we'll do that but the rest of it still being figured out so we'll get there but give us some time it takes a long time to do samples for custom products and then you can't do that to quit who is the best John Romero or Carmack I'm gonna go with Carmack Carmack pretty smart guy alright let me get back to the orders while this is running I can like barely keep up combines has just finished why don't we show them the score for a second while I check two or three orders Vincent Wilson gave bought the the keychain Thank You Vincent for that we appreciate it the $10 keychain is an easy pick up item I'm gonna block the score there you go it's kind of visible technically it has a blue LED in it but we don't include batteries but uh yeah Thank You Vincent for that and what was our score scores 96 98 not hugely improved 11 5 4 3 so we need to push harder than that Erin from Virginia purchased a mod Matt thank you very much Erin let's see Auto from Sweden for just a medium teardown crystal Thank You Otto and some stickers and decals some GN stickers I'm gonna read a couple more we had James from Texas purchase a couple of things actually extra parts bought an extra ESD wrist strap and common ground point bought an anti-static mod mat from us thank you those just came in by the way so they are shipping this week tear down crystal medium size and a keychain thank you very much James from Texas all right let me I'm going to update the stock in a minute to have some more signed mats because people seem too long and we're out right now but I'll go signed some more so our score 96 98 11 5 4 3 and let's just save this score that was the camera don't be alarmed we're just unlocking it from its position 13 50 megahertz gpo 4.8 gigahertz CPU so we're definitely stuck on the GP right now for score let's go ahead and just keep doing 20 megahertz increments 1370 we're past where we were stable with that the closed loop liquid cooler before so if the extra thermal from this one is doing anything for us it's increase in the GPU frequency a bit like we've got a bit more Headroom on that and I want to get harder and fo open just so we can see how hot the GPU is getting one second while I open that up seems to get stuck in processes sometimes okay so that's gonna take a second to open on the nook some reason takes forever on the Nook to open up so let me add a couple more autograph the mattes while that's opening I'll go sign those I guess before we leave if I can otherwise when I'm back all right so it's okay I think we got some more in there oh yeah nice our distributor actually added more for me you saw we were live streaming said hey Steve I saw you sold out of autographs mod Matz and I added some more didn't want to interrupt you thank you very much for doing that for us if you want what I guess they are actually in stock and that also means I have to drive the total of an hour to go sign some more that's fine it's it's fun to do and I'm glad we can provide that for everyone okay so what I want is GPU temperature which is gonna be way down here somewhere and let's just pull up GPU thermal diode and GPU HBM temperature and we're gonna let those sit while we run a test if it doesn't crash at 13 70 megahertz which is now beyond where we were stable previously and actually we're just going to do a graphics test save everyone some time so we don't need to run physics for this so let's reminds well let's just do two graphics tests and see if it's stable and keep an eye on the thermals while it's doing that and then I'll read more Super chats and everything in a moment but I want to pay attention to this machine for a second make sure we can get the best overclock out of it that we can all right so thermal diode currently 26 degrees Celsius ambient temperature is probably like twenty three or four in here probably 23 so just for the duration of fire strike it's not gonna be stressed a whole lot also if you missed it earlier we've got liquid metal on here so I replaced the thermal grizzly cryo not with thermal grizzly conduct or not which should be linked in the description below if you want to pick some up they are the advertiser for the stream and the conductor not is definitely doing its job I put thermal tape captain tape all around and nail polish to protect the small SM DS so we're good to go there it's it helped a lot though we're kind of thermal limited previously and I didn't expect it to do a lot because already a bare die but the thing is this is this kind of a lot of it's a high concentration of heat in a small area so I guess every bit helps the bigger problem was the water block we have on it has like I said macro fins not micro fins so it's kind of potentially a bit limited in that regard all right so we're at 39 40 37 for HBR everything's perfectly good here and it hasn't crashed so we might actually be able to run these settings a couple new orders came in one from Jian I don't I'm so sorry I don't how to pronounce that guy I'm from Belgium that's I don't think we've had an order from there for a while so from Belgium bought a key chain thank you very much and a teal logo tri-blend shirt thank you for that okay um if I'm pronouncing that correctly and we are low on stock for that shirt but we've got a couple left I think still running some tests over here behind me it's just kind of looping for a second while we make sure it doesn't crash at 13 70 megahertz on the GPU quite a bit higher than where we were previously Benjamin from Wisconsin purchased a an autographed mod Matt Thank You Benjamin a medium teardown logo crystal and a graph logo shirt in tri-blend again very popular it seems I guess for the the comfort on that one on the weight it's pretty lightweight Corey from from Canada and as I used to what these actions were what is this place what province is this Manitoba Manitoba Canada picked up an anti-static mod mat autographed thank you Cory like I said does not include the blood just the signature so hopefully that doesn't disappoint anyone and then finally here Thomas from Idaho purchased a teardown crystal with LED bass and an anniversary edition teal logo tri-blend okay awesome making for the support guys we appreciate it been a really fun stream so far as well I'm gonna get super chat in the moment so this is stable let's get back to some overclocking before I go back to the viewer interaction stuff looks really stable actually thermals are great we're at 40 degrees Celsius ambient temperatures probably about 23 GPU hbm's 38 what's our CPU should be doing basically nothing right now yeah CB is like in the forties very cool okay so I shall left that open let's let's go ahead and push for I should left that open to I was pushed for 13 90 I think we're gonna start hitting stability limitation soon so I really hope we can get that 10k number I want 39 the runs custom benchmark so we'll see if it crashes if it doesn't crash after one pass of each graphics test I will push for I guess 1410 when does the stream and the stream ends when I hit 10,000 points and fire strike or when it's impossible to achieve that and right now we're just trying to stabilize a Jeep or well we're not truck we're trying to unstable eyes a GPU overclock we're trying to find the point of failure for it I also noted previously for early viewers that am a bit afraid of an unstable overclock on the CPU because I've had experiences with this nook where with too low voltage and too glamorous of an overclock I've lost the operating system and had to reinstall so I'm trying to save that for the end because if it happens I'd like it to be at the end of the stream not the middle of it we passed round 1 so it is stable at 13 90 six gigahertz when not anytime soon when will the nook burn I hopefully not you know what that's a good point we should add this those chokes on the top are probably pretty hot actually it's a very good point thank you for asking hopefully the answer is not right while I don't know maybe do a lot of use hopefully answer is uh it's during the stream in that case I needed an extra fan header there's not one if so this is just a basically it's just an ATX power supply that's jumped and plugged into the fans and molex I don't see do you see any like headers like that anywhere this should be one if not then I'll go get another one looks like we are still stable though oh there's one okay so all I'm gonna do is rest this up here and hopefully doesn't fall in maybe I should tape it probably who wants to bet it it's falls off as soon as I plug it in nope you lost your bet all right so that's just gonna provide some airflow onto the chokes technically it's opposing airflow but it's so far away I don't think it's gonna matter that looks like we're stable on our overclock so that actually should help a bit nice rat's nest of cables yeah I know it's a zip tight though it's it's a it's a cable man in traps nest does Ronnie multi monitors take away from performance in this we had issues with it where we were having just stream issues in general I'm not sure how much it impacts performance on the Nook it is pretty limited on what it can do to some I mean I can do multi monitor but I didn't want to take too much away from our score especially because it just was blacking out and not working I think that was stable so I want this to crash before we do another full run so let's do 1410 that's another 20 megahertz jump I don't know when we're gonna crash it should have happened already so this liquid cooler is doing its job for sure way better than the closed loop see how if that's stable is this something you would recommend doing at home if you're ok with with cracking the inner poser or the HBM or the CPU or the GPU die you're ok with with like destroying the silicon potentially sure and and normally that's not a risk at all like this kind of overclocking totally ok to do just you know don't just be careful so for a normal like desktop system general advice stay away from or be careful of system agent voltage on intel and SOC voltage on and ee those are two really easy ways to cause permanent damage and degradation of the IMC the integrated memory controller and be careful of ecore don't push that too I typically you'll run out of thermal Headroom before you run out of v core headroom and also the voltages we run during streams not of this but like over the 79 80 XE for DRAM and for the CPU those are fine for benchmarking on a stream but I wouldn't recommend them for daily so keep that in mind as well and then what I recommend doing this specifically it's a lot of fun I really like this box so I'm super happy with it and I would do it again did we crash now we completed it okay cool no no wait I don't know what happened actually uh yes it crashed okay so we crashed at 1410 so 1400 might be our limit we'll see I'm gonna three start so I mean yeah it's it's a lot of fun thanks windows for the non functional power button seriously alright anyone want to see a trick so shut shut down because Windows 10 sucks dot bat and then shut I can't see what I'm typing shut down - s - t one save this we're just making a batch file this is actually super useful and if it happens again I might have to do this again I don't want to hold the button to shut it down still can't see options view show don't hide don't hide don't hide don't go ahead hey why the power strip just fell off the wall too bad you missed the head that was pretty good one the power strip powering like all of this just fell off the wall off the floor alright here's the trick god I'm just takes that windows alright so we just made a batch file if you've never done that it's super useful right click the Start menu for shutdown yeah well here's the thing Start button doesn't work so right I did right click it I did left click it's just the zero input and you could alt f4 on desktop but also you can make a batch file and never have to mess with it again so we've made a batch file all right you can use command prompt yes and and open it with my non-functional Start menu by making a batch file to open it maybe Windows R might work there's a couple good questions here in super chat acid rain will you do more Adobe CC benchmarks like Photoshop and Lightroom there are not too many of those out there I don't know like a Photoshop I think you're mostly going to be talking about mostly gonna be talking about probably filters and stuff filters and transforms maybe I'm not sure the best way because we benchmark those in the past and we won't run trace benchmarks of them typically you're like fractions of a second difference for applying filters and things between high-end devices the probably don't know what the most intensive stuff you can do in Photoshop or Lightroom would be so if you have ideas I guess again tweet them at us that's where I'll probably see it even if I don't reply tweet that gamers and access with what you do with other Adobe applications that you think is really intensive I can look into it I'm not an expert on on using those specific ones but we can come up with something I'm sure this is rebooting by the way Mac Samson 279 Canadian by snowflake an RGB caller she died I feel like she'd end up just chasing herself in circles she really likes infrared thermometers the Martin says sorry about what is the CPU again it's a it's an 88 oh 9 G I think all right so we were unstable at 14 10 megahertz let's see if we can just do what kind of score we get at 1400 black lodge games two dollars would you consider GN join flute playing hashtag Rafael CT I've talked about that and asked GN episodes before probably search for flute playing I've talked about it twice this year I think we are not we presently have no plans I really like the patreon and discord set up I also really like what Luke's doing but I need to see something more that we can work with before we do anything like that now we don't want we don't want 14,000 megahertz 1,400 1,400 and we're going to 950 on the HBM I haven't tried well I have I've tried a thousand I know that's not sale I haven't tried 975 max out the power offset and let's get one of these open so XT is going to allow us to reapply those same settings hopefully without having to type them all in all though there weren't many 0.08 4.8 gigahertz looks like we're good to go just make sure that's applied so we crashed at 1410 I'll see what score we get at 1400 and then we can push the CPU in the memory to try and make up the difference we might fall a bit short of the 10,000 points I want but we'll see I'll try and get at least 9800 you most definitely do want 14 gigahertz I think that might be asking a bit much I do I do want that setting that that'd be sweet zero matter is running a benchmark if you missed it there good is it going where's the crashing might be crashing so maybe it's not running a benchmark May 1,400 might be asking too much that's kind of stuck it's still 70 megahertz higher than what I was expecting but but I just I just want more zero matter five dollars thank you very much if you do a mousepad can you do an XXL one for keyboard/mouse please also what's this again it's an ad 809 G and at this point I might just make your ex exhale a mousepad you want and put the numbers eight 809 and the letter G straight across it you know we can even do a branded we do a GM logo on it so then everyone will know what cpu it is I'd certainly consider act and Excel mousepad I'm not sure what size is our most popular T 2 by 12 is pretty popular looks like it's trying to be what do we want yes or no we want no okay so let's let that beaut 14,000 gigahertz is a bit much maybe try 13750 gigahertz you know I think I think that's actually where my mistake was I think we needed to set it a bit lower and less ambitious like 13,000 gigahertz look 13 terahertz at that point that is that thirteen point seven terahertz one more to read royal royal Leah says ten dollars just wanted to say I enjoy your content thank you very much we appreciate that ten dollars will go towards let's I know what do we want to put it towards Fried Chicken stretch pizza last time people were demanding waffles coffee beer tacos pizza and chicken I think which I'm not sure we can achieve all of that at once maybe we'll put it towards the coffee tack strip and get some food there alright so hopefully this is all stable let's go back to I guess 13 90 megahertz and let's run a full pass with that see how far that gets us there 299 50 oh by the way just in case anyone's wondering this voltage control I've messed with this for the Nook and it maxes out at 11 50 millivolts I think yes and unfortunately using it basically causes an instant crash if I apply it like it'll blue screen it's pretty bad I don't know if that's a bug or what so I found leaving it on auto means it doesn't crash so we're gonna go with that Mac's the slider apply all right full pass to 3d market hopefully stable settings see what our score is there we go okay maybe the processor isn't getting to 10 K points because it's lacking an RGB you know I saw a comment on on Paul's recent video I think I think it was like has RGB gone too far or something like that I don't know number but I saw a comment I was like Paul you missed a part the CPU is an RGB and it just made me wonder when are we gonna get an IHS that's RGB illuminated because it can totally be done it also be completely pointless but then again look at all the other RGB stuff that's future reference what kind of temps are you getting water temperatures I don't have a probe in the water unfortunately have you tried lifting the rig for more airflow no we do need to do that we're in like the 40s for the GPU which is really good and we're in like the 90s we're kind of pushing it for the CPU but only there in the physics test okay Alexander Stiles a few of us posted some kind of suggestions some kind of some music suggestions excuse me in the rip LTT stream did you ever check out the deer hunter highly recommend act 4 if you haven't yet that's growing up love the content cheers from check from Canada not from Canada yes I actually did I checked out a bunch of them so I think we had like four bands or albums people wanted me to listen to it listen to all of them I can't differentiate which is which right now but I definitely listen to everything cuz I made a list and check them all out and I appreciate the suggestions let's see the Martin I like a what CPU is it branded shirt now maybe we will do that hey maybe that's what we should do Nastia with a knife $10 hey Steve do you have any opinions on enterprise level systems such as iommu with GPUs I've been pretty devastated since it turns out that Vega didn't support it after all the rumors last year unfortunately I don't just kicks a cable I had to make sure I didn't unplug something I do not have a any real experience with enterprise systems kind of focus on consumer and gaming really not qualified to talk about it unfortunately I'm sorry I may be may be Wendell from level one techs that's where he specializes try him I'm not sure who else might know that kind of stuff one from chat normal chat I want to address here while we're running these tests when are you leaving for Comi tax will you have scheduled videos while we're gone where we will be uploading should be still every day while we're gone because we're gonna be at Computex so I'm gonna be making videos on the show floor it'll probably multiple videos a day just like we did with CES so if you are worried about not getting stuff in your sub feed manually either check Twitter will tweet them or manually check the youtube.com slash gamers nexus page you know a couple of times a day the first day tends to be a bit slower obviously we have to start making the videos to upload them but by in the first day we'll have a few videos up next day we'll have a few videos up so we're going for probably two to four a day depending on how much there's talked about that day so yeah will will of videos we're not abandoning you for Computex okay so there we go a 9860 that's our score it's a graphic score eleven seven eight seven pretty damn good even though we're stuck at 39 they were so close to 10,000 but also so far away fire strike we don't know leans really heavily on the GPU so we can only get so much out of the CPU and the memory so if we're stuck at 30 90 we might not be able to hit 10,000 but I'm gonna try let's just go ahead and save this 13 90 megahertz GPU 4.8 gigahertz CPU okay and let's do I know for sure we're gonna have to increase the voltage I kinda have an idea of where it's going out to be because I pretest it a bit for this one so I'm just gonna go there right away and I think we're gonna run into thermal problems now so we're doing four point nine point one three it's just high but I think it's gonna be needed and forty why do feel let's go 43 on that that might we might be pushing our power limitations here okay so if anything the combined tests gonna be the worst what we're gonna do now is see if it crashes but also see if it's limiting anywhere so one cool thing about x2 you I typically prefer to overclock with BIOS for this I've explained why we're using x2 you it is it is a bit better for the Nook it exposes more options and Intel is your only vendor for the BIOS so you don't have any choices one thing I like about it is down here on the bottom if we can get a shot down here maybe it is actually really good about showing what limits are hitting same with hardware info but it's condensed so we can see thermal throttles we can see power limits we can see current limits these are the two that I'm most concerned about because we have a 230 watt brick so what we're going to do is run this windowed and see if we hit any of those and how quickly and I'm thinking we are going to at least hit one if not two or three limits of some kind a couple orders while that's launching Rudolf from Finland Thank You Rudolph Rudolph purchased a Raglan hoodie which we restocks I think last stream so we should still have some of those in stock it's the blue and black two-tone hoodie lightweight so it's great for spring or a cool summer weather Shaun from the US purchased a mod mat and thank you Sean we really appreciate it the mod mat orders are awesome because we're proud of the product and like seeing it get out there and then we got one from Christoph that I'm pronouncing that correctly from Poland who bought a one of the 15 ounce ceramic mugs which is actually the same one that's holding some dead memory in it right here not drinkable hope that's making everyone cringe that's probably $300 of memory that doesn't even work it's so sad right so we're just running a test now see yeah uh what what are we getting for limits so we're hitting a current limit down here that's turning yellow sometimes that's a current limit definitely hitting the current limit so current limit throttling CPU temperatures fine but this is not a CPU test it's not the physics test start 42 I need to see what what we are doing physics tests core frequencies or there's what does that say that's a 49 I like that I can just look at the camera via up here up towards the top thank you okay very helpful thank you fire strike or where am I out right there that's what I'm looking for oh yeah we're throttling big-time so that should be four point nine we're thermal throttling now what's our temperature right there okay so it's we've got one quart ninety eight which is a thermal throttle for sure so let's try elevating this thing I'm going to shut it down just so I don't suck a cable into the fan and we're gonna find something to elevate it with and then see if that gives us a bit more airflow can only help so much unfortunately we are gonna be limited by everything else but let's give it a shot so all the fans pretty cool just attached to this switch and then the knock is separately attached to this cable so they are isolated and now I just need to figure out what to put this thing on so if we just do like this and then put a box on either side I guess or if we're the fans this is not really for the Hat okay Oh someone says currently watching on my Hayes Canyon thanks for all the videos showing this thing so much love or torture five dollars from Mike beads yeah Mike it's a it's an awesome system I really do like it we are not using it as intended but it's pretty fun to work with I'll pull some fan boxes okay so there's a lot of cables to work with here let's get this elevated and see if that helps I need can I get you to slide one box under that side so the goal is to elevate it without blocking the fans trying to put the back part of this on this one like this and then if you can get that yes we're gonna block one fan well it's still elevated more than so maybe if we just do the corner can you line that up for just that corner thank you and then we need another one for that corner so is this box roughly the same height yes you put that under the other corner we're using the EVGA fans and the Silverstone fans as intended that's more or less okay it's a microcosm of our wobbly table I bet oh I don't know there's Silverstone box let's use this one keep all that EVGA fan okay I bet the room is getting toasty yeah it's getting warmer that's for sure use pucks so many use parks requests I don't think it's really the best fit all right let's try this that definitely elevates yeah that's that's pretty good that elevates the fans a lot so let's give this a shot why is this so much further away than it wasn't good to go okay Oh Oh the brick fall in the floor yeah where's this hang on this cable or is that guy you bring that up to the table yeah thank you all right guys we're just elevating everything including the the haha surge protector cuz it fell down earlier and I left it there please don't fall all right that should be okay let's get this plugged in Tate and this back on top and I don't hear any cables getting sucked into the fan so that's a plus there's our choke cooling fan everything's good everything's back on put ice cubes in the reservoir I we run out of unfortunately melting ice will still turn into liquid and fill the reservoir quickly and then we have condensation to consider - maybe another time I did I did genuinely consider wrapping it in shop towel and putting the reservoir in an ice bucket but let's see if this improves anything for us we might be just let's see if I don't / crash you know if it's just waking itself back up looks like crashing mmm so let's give it a second to figure out what's doing with its life a couple questions go through my let's figuring itself out mm-hmm with a pH mr. Fuchs Phu CT I think that's how it's pronounced HBM at 963 I haven't tried that we've done 950 or do or wasn't reading 963 maybe you want No okay no on the prompt okay just do it for chat please the chilling I guess oh yeah it would be fun but not really the best setup the trying to do that right now Alexandria five dollars Canadian question for you guys I'd really like to hear your opinion has anyone really been as far even as decided to use even go on to do it look more like I think yes actually I've heard about that a few times it's one of the biggest products in the industry right now is they used to look more like and to go far as so yeah I think that's the answer nestled with a knife one more question do you have any benchmarks for what razor you're using on your beard looking for a new one and I need some comparisons I don't even know what it's called that's how much I care we got a bit of a flicker there I got screen flickering going on I've seen that before sometimes it just needs a bit of a rest and then that goes away okay so let's go I see what's going on please drop all the sit resets all my settings but not all of them so it it's freakin out of it I think we are going to need to let me shut this down for a second because I've had this before make sure all the fans are spinning yes they're spinning okay so we could give this a break for a second just needs to relax for a minute see it do that a few times was a close one alright let me give that just like about a minute or two and then we'll reboot it so murders the whole badge in mineral oh hell okay so what questions have I missed here you can't do that 88 oh nine gee that's yes it is the 88 o 9g that's the CP were you using my the mandate I guess Mike Bates $5 currently working on my Haiti skinning oh I think I saw that one yeah watch on my Hades Kenny yeah yeah Leone of course $5 thank you very much Leon Leon says I've never seen you wear your hair in a ponytail do you hate hair ties I have one right here I did last live the last few live streams when it start getting really hot in this room this thing is not that crazy hot so thanks for the realloc sander $2 canadian thanks for the response now I know what to do let's I'm glad I helped somehow okay let's give it a shot see if it's still freaking out with the graphics artifacting maybe with 100% fewer falling fans this time can't divide by zero I guess but you get the idea and okay all the fans are spinning so should be better maybe okay get this open please no freaking out just in case we're gonna reset everything reapply and see if we can push the CV 24.9 not we have a bit better air flow under there you know what I think I have an idea here's what we're gonna do we're gonna do 4.8 gigahertz for the multiplier and then we are going to do I know this needs to be offset pretty high so let's just go heavy hand it again and we're gonna change the reference clock so we're going to off by one megahertz or a hundred one megahertz now this look at was something like I don't know 48 60 or something like that megahertz they'll be pretty close to 449 X that is and let's try that so let's I'm just gonna run a physics test and we'll go back to graphic stuff just kind of one variable at a time let's get the CPU down and leave it alone and get the memory down as well that should be pretty quick hopefully if it doesn't crash a bunch all right so physics only needed let's no fire strength of the thing it does where it reach X all the options it's a bit of a trick with fire strike yeah you have to click out of the window otherwise we'll recheck everything you inject okay loop for window that's what I want Ron okay let's see if it's stable at 48 whatever it is right now hardware info take so long to open with this no no I've heard all your power comes from your hair can I buy a lock so I can take over the world it's a bit of a jump don't you think haha thought it out we we did have that one Maud Matt we stapled up in the tube with like 40 staples I think theirs had the hair stuck to one of those or something XX sinful Grif for an added a in streaming gaming rig 2700 2x or 8700 K I'm seriously torn I can't decide let's go with editing for well gaming they're both gonna be good like they're both fine technically the 87 RK can push a bit harder if you're doing like 1080p gaming with the high end GPU where you're not where you're not CPU where you're not GPU bottleneck and we passed by the way the score was 12 380 so it did pass that sounds a bit low I feel like it should be like 14,000 so maybe we were thermal throttle house just double-check that 87 hard K though technically a bit of a lead in gaming doesn't matter probably not a whole lot for most people just look at the percent difference to see if you actually care at that framerate so I'm sure some wood some wood if you're streaming though that's a different story so streaming a while gaming is completely different beast because in our streaming test without any tweaks to affinity or priority at all the the lower and Intel CPUs especially it would have some trouble where Rison did not and you can check our 2700 extra view for all those benchmarks I don't keep them in my head forever so I'd encourage you to do that we are definitely thermal throttling right now let me see if I can get away with a little bit lower voltage I don't know that I can let's go for like 0.12 maybe it's probably gonna crash let's see for editing and video production that both are fine like we have a benchmark also to check out the Adobe Premiere benchmark so the 2700 X is faster stock than the e semi hard case stock in Adobe Premiere if you're not using the IGP I can't run the exact numbers but I want to say it was like in the 30s for our test obviously completely depends on what you're rendering but ours was 30 something minutes for 2700 X and I think 40 something minutes for the 87 hard case stock once you got the IGP going with the new hardware acceleration intel kept up a lot better but it depends what software you're using in general the 87 RK if you're not using some special acceleration is going to be a bit faster and multi-threaded tasks then the 87 hard k-27 RDX that is so I like both and I would push you to watch our Adobe premier video and our 2700 X review to get more concrete thoughts where I like pick a side because I had obviously more time to think about it there okay so a bit warm let's see if that fan helps at all I just connected another fan while I was answering that we are down a bit and voltage dose that's really good to see okay as a colder outside than inside so you can try opening the window I don't think so it's probably like I like ninety degrees Fahrenheit outside yeah I so someone said you probably have poor contact with the CPU I think so because well no jumping from 40 to 90 and no times not crazy the reason I think there might be poor contact is because we have one that's sixty and one that's like a hundred so I can I have an idea of what that is it's because I didn't tighten it super hard because I was concerned about cracking the interposer so I wish I knew where core to and core zero were because then I could just tighten that let's see which screw is the loosest that's okay I need to get this pan off the top okay all right no hazards that screws a bit loose let's just give it a quarter turn that screws fine that one's probably fine alright so I gave one screw like a quarter-turn I don't know if they'll change it again we will find out yeah I'm running these kind of looser than I probably should but it is really easy to over tighten this and crack everything so got to be careful with it let's see if the deltas are closer get this hazardous fan back on top is the most dangerous part of today alright okay Alexander five dollars Canadian when you get your final overclock you should see how it performs in the stock cooler after the fire strike scores test is set so we already know actually we ran it we did a review of Hades Canyon and the stock cooler and we did some thermal benchmarks and I can't remember I think I was stuck oh I know I was talking about 4.3 gigahertz and then we put the 280mm in here be quiet CLC on it and we got to stock up 4.7 gigahertz and now we're kind of at 48 70 but it's occasionally throttling you know I need to close hardware info and reopen it so I can clear everything but um yeah quite it we're quite a bit farther than further where we were with the stock unit one more test here see if it's stable on what temperatures were looking at Martin five quid that looks like an Intel CPU why not use a horizon shell a question mark yes the the Hades Canyon nook featuring an AMD Vega GPU definitely shilling material there I do sense your sarcasm though I hope really Huff that sarcasm we could try ripping the unit out I guess and just randomly picking solder joints to solder a rise and CPU to it that buy satisfy some evil thermals haven't really improved need a chiller is what I need what can I do contacts we can lower ambient can you let's just try and get like one degree out of the thermostat one or two if we can drop it one or two degrees I'll be good so if set it's like sixty eight or nine thanks so we're going to try some last-ditch efforts I might tighten some screws otherwise we'll have to drop the settings a bit run liquid metal through the water cooling left world's first it's kind of a liquid okay I'm dataq five dollars Andrews getting a thermostat keep up the good cheap up the good dude we're hit on shoehorning the rising 2700 X rig into a Power Mac g5 case while watching that sounds like fun glad to be on in the background while you're doing that sounds like a good project beyond 4k $5 the users demand more snowflake we expect every non-live video thank you for making that exclusion to include the CEO don't disappoint us Jack Lee why aren't you monitoring the vrm mas because I don't care I'm assuming that's fine we have such CPU problems it's not going to matter I mean the vrm is under the heatsink as well so it should be okay I'll check though just in case but I do not think it's going to be a problem there should be a readout in here for it let me see I think they called motherboard motherboard SSD to motherboard PCH I know CPUs gonna be the big problem out the BRM I don't think vrm temperature there you go you're really curious oh that's the GPU a might as well I guess a couple of erm temperature readers alright anyway that was semi-successful so we've got the thermostat dropped a bit I'm going to check the screws one more time see if there's anything that can be tightened without cracking something that one's pretty much maxed okay one more okay that's the best we can do really so at this point we're gonna be left down to your liquid metal contacts which I'm not gonna disassemble it on streem that'll just be a huge pain probably I'm not really worth it okay let's run the benchmarks as is if I can get this to pass I need to know if our frequency stays fixed so let's get two of these up and we're just gonna run a full pass see the frequency dips during the benchmark and the step aback gifts so we could probably also drop Bolton jab it let's do this first and then drop the voltage and see if it crashes okay Jackley why yeah you got that one sinful Griff $5 appreciate the input man after we're done here I'll check out the 2700 review again yeah I mean I certainly have a lot of thoughts on it the ACE on hard K does really well but also the 2700 X competes decently and streaming video production stuff like that it really depends on the software this is more a question of software optimization than anything because like we saw with Adobe Premiere it's ahead there and then it gets behind it with IGP acceleration on Intel so everything's contingent on software and what you use you really I don't think there's a reason to feel disappointed with either of those two options though they are it's Andy's best effort in a while 2,700 X gets a bit hot when you overclock it but that's fine and Intel certainly gets hot and the 8700 K's Intel's best effort in a while so I wouldn't be upset with either of those he can t do that five quid what non tech related YouTube channels do you watch do you watch Cody's lab I have heard of Cody's lab and probably seen some I watched some mountain biking stuff lately I've been watching a lot of like learning Mandarin YouTube videos that's proven really helpful that's most I really like some Aaron Gwin mountain biking let's see zero matter four five seven used for for a tier adds together tape them to a box fan J did something like that ton for us five euro I'm disappointed you had the chance to call it sticks Canyon instead of liquid Hades Canyon we were recalling that Haiti's River for a bit but sticks Canyon is a good one born mega five dollars try using a copper shim to make better contact to the CPU yeah not on live stream but the GPU and the CPU high are slight very slightly different on this so that's that's kind of a part of the concern with why I don't want to go too hard I'm tightening it because I know one sides making more forceful contact on the other side but it's set up in a way that the I set it up so that the GPU is the well basically the cold plate if you watch the video the cold plate is slightly higher on one side than the other and I've lined that up inversely to the height difference so we should be okay but worst case the GP is making last contact in theory and we have a lot more thermal Headroom there it's lower heat flux especially hpm so but there's still some big core Delta's so I don't know what we can do about that other than new liquid metal but I think we're gonna get pretty far with this though it seems to be succeeding we'll just see how much it's thermal throttling okay any more orders so like I said previously if you buy anything from the Gion store while you're watching this while a stream is going I'll read off first name where you're from and what you bought and we certainly appreciate it it's basically funding today's video production that we're shooting harbor news after this and it is already 6:20 so we'll be fine on that though he restored our cameras nexus net if you want to pick something up the mod mats are in stock and shipping basically as the orders come in now so it's not a backorder anymore and the the crystals so back here the GM logo tear down crystals with I think we can go show that it's a 3d logo it's pretty sweet actually so 3d laser engraved we have those in stock as well they came in the other day and we also have the new $10 keychains in you want to grab one of those so anyway that's the that's the stuff we got this is still kind of processing the benchmark results I'm waiting for it in the meantime let me check the frequencies this never drops below what we said it - I don't we we're not throttling oh yeah very nice we were not thermal throttling what are these other I can't read any of this from where it is HBM temperature was fine 34 degrees kind of max GP diodes fine 35 while that's doing really well CP is struggling though GP of erm temperature if anyone's curious is like 30 s definitely fine other vrn temperatures 48 so we're like a hundred degrees away from anything concerning and get this over here here's our CPU core thermals so although in the 90s we are no longer at thermal throttle territory which was like it's I mean we're very close one degree Celsius difference between them so very very close to thermal throttle territory to close all this stuff and it's I don't know why it's processing the score still but what we can do is let's get a memory overclocked on here very simple one and by memory overclock I mean I'm gonna turn on X and P two and it's been how far that goes we can play with it more but I want to turn that on without any tuning and see how far that gets our score and that'll probably be pretty close to calling it cuz we're good at 98 60 points already and I want 10,000 I don't know how close we get latest order was from Thomas from Norway Thank You Thomas Thomas ordered the the original the og gamers Nexus logo shirt and I think cotton so thank you for picking that up that is our oldest shirt design that we have and it's still actually one of the most complex so this front and back print and a couple colors Ruben's from the UK bought one of our ceramic mugs Thank You Reubens we just restocked there's a couple days ago I think we're already low on stock but these are the mugs broken memory not included just like the mod Matt does not include my blood from sanding down horizon IHS although that rise in CPU certainly had the last laugh at me sand it off ya know my fingertips okay so that's the mug you want one it's on the store stored I Karen sex tonight I'll read your first name where you're from when you pick it up alright so shut that back some p2 on let's see how it does get a real score in this time assuming a fire strike actually completes the run okay any day now x2 you could not apply processor graphics officer that's fine we're not even using that part okay so that's all good this is acceptable we can still try and drop this voltage of it I haven't like I said we're heavy-handed on it intentionally because live-streaming kind of complicates things so let's leave all that let's get Vega GPU overclocked this is a Vega mgh GPU they also have a GL which is a bit more limited in Cu count it's the weaker model I have not tested that one I think we decided 1390 was definitely stable or very close to it and this voltage I said earlier if you change it it'll crash so we're gonna leave that alone might be a bug I'm not sure mine 50 HP m max that out I might be able to 975 or 960 something on HP m but let's just try and get a score in if it will complete this time okay run see how it does okay what other chat things we have gone on revive the dead memory with the blood of Steve is that like add the blood to the chalice and some liquid-nitrogen it'll come back to life it's pretty sad really I think one of them was an ESD death a couple years ago and from handling probably on camera and the other one I think was just bad and I didn't really never we got around to replacing it hmm all right so Chet rj2 daughter shout out to Joey rizz and his 2,700 x OC vids cool fire on a wire two quid where's the GN CEO senior AMG analyst not allowed in the livestream can setup especially with this I I'm already enough of a hazard with this fan as it's already almost tune-up the bench once today so I have a feeling she she's a bit on the nose with the with the component analysis literally by which I mean she touches everything with her nose so that would be a problem with this bench right now that'd moisture would be good though for additional damage I guess and cooling there you go mm-hmm there's some kind of discussion in chat about population not not really sure what that is okay I wish I could get Vega 56 and 64 at a good price I got a precinct monitor for nothing yeah it'd be nice 56 was a really fun card to work with I did not like 64 we recommend it against Ed 56 I liked a lot especially because he can basically make it become fat 64 and so like some people originally were like yeah but you can overclock 64 also yes to a point but if you overclock them both to their max potential especially with a BIOS flash on 56 then they're basically the same they're like single-digit percentage points different and the price was amazing like I remember what it was anymore because it's never been what it was supposed to be I think it was supposed to be I don't know if it's 400 or 500 so one remind me in chat what Vega 56 MSRP was supposed to be that's pretty sad though isn't it can't say I ever forgotten MSRP for a GPU item for the past year where nothing's ever MSRP anymore anyway it was a it was I like that one a lot it's a shame that it's so hard to get but I don't know it seems like it's gotten a little better I'm not sure how much though you can't do that to quit for the last run ice cubes in the res come on I do want to I don't maybe like one maybe it might be better next time so I can like prepare for it let some liquid out in the very least so we're doing like combines house and I just finished suit our scores did pass don't know if it throttled if it's lower than previously we did day and that is super close 98 47 I want 10k I don't know if we're gonna hit it physics scores 14 8 5 1 that memory OC helped a bit we could push it we do a manual Oceanos just like some pee right now anyway 14850 111 700 graphic scenes to out where we're stuck let's try and get a little more out of this thing I think probably we're okay in terms of thermals ish frequency you can see where I can't read anything don't say frequency yes okay frequencies fine it's not throttling it's just dropping between tests so okay so let's try let's try for like 965 I know thousand won't work let's try fourteen on it again which didn't work previously but maybe yeah we're at like 9800 something I want 10,000 why not always see the RAM we just did an XMP two on it and I can play around with it more but the thing is graphics is what is that liquid boiling no not only close graphics is our big limiter so that's the the one to focus on right now so that's what I want the extra 10 megahertz out of if I could get it yet I wonder if the air should ten watts from the laptop power supply will help at this point can you grab under the test bench behind your editing machine there's like a white like box that connects to a power cable on either side it's on the floor next to the power on earth and there the battery back up it should say like onset data logger it's up it's a power meter so we're gonna see what kind of how much power we're using so I can figure out if the extra 10 watts is gonna give us anything it's only 10 watts but what board is that it's the Intel Katie's Canyon Nook it's pretty cool actually it's totally not meant to do this but a lot of fun to work with I'm gonna shut this down as soon as that task finishes - it's get a power reading okay just reading chat for a second cube cube cube I don't want ice cubes I guess either having your chanting for ice cube the rapper to come out with you're gonna be sorely disappointed they didn't have an ice cube so he bought vanilla ice good reference there all right two dollars from the Martin cube cube but let's get more cube in the chat I've never seen anyone clearly a throat while chugging coke first of all I've been talking for like hours secondly have you tasted that stuff cause it's awful it's probably doing the opposite probably do you hydrating me more than I even close this thing I guess I could drink out of the reservoir and then I could fit an ice cube in there would you be able to switch the third party GPU OC tool yeah I mean like yeah I've used I've used watt tools pretty good and afterburners okay we could certainly play around with it what TV would you recommend for this exact build do you mean this the theta I'm testing it's an 88 o 9g it's basically the only option there's one other one and I don't know how good it is but it's it's a step-down and performance anyone's done L&T with this I don't think so but I know builds I'd wants to you okay all right so wait for Angie to bring back the datalogger if you can find it it's oh man we're at 99 you can see a corner of the screen 99 to 63 let's say that 99 63 points so that is 49 megahertz on the GPU 11 873 for the graphics core pretty good 14 7 7 4 for physics three six nine eight four combined thank you I was able to use the corner that's visible to show everyone the score super close so anyway we are 40 points away from my target so I I want 10k points that's a goal we're gonna plug this in to a power reader and see or a meter basically and see how much power that brick is getting tapped for what are your thoughts on the 87 o5g you have you even tested it or seen it no I have not that 10 watts extra is hitting 10k it might be let's see where we actually are on consumption that we might not be maxed out although we probably are yeah I have not used the other the other CPUs from this family so only the 88 o 9g I asked Intel for the lower end unit they didn't have any available unfortunately I would buy one but they're expensive and I know we're not gonna get a return on that because it is so expensive and it's not the most interesting to people its power bricks pretty hot I should have fan on that so all we're going to do is see how much power we're using and I can explain all this to you in a second stay all right it's upside down okay well you're gonna have to deal with an upside down meter maybe yes that is going to be the case so I'll point out what we're looking at sorry it's upside down and now right here this number near my finger that's the current wattage like power consumption it's not doing anything right now so 27 basically let's run a fire strike thing and I can get that up okay we're already configured here we should already be good here how much power everyone think we're using posted in chat the brick candy 230 watts so are we max you know obviously there's some efficiency lost but are we maxing out or should I am I gonna need to switch the brick and I don't know if we're even power-limited at this point it might be a bit also I don't know what protections it has in terms of a limiting power consumption even if we give it a bigger break it might not let us push that much through it stephenie's water cooling yes how about liquid nitrogen full submersion don't think that's gonna be doable alright so we've got some numbers and someone says 136 we've got 210 teach one a 229 180 225 250 I guess half maybe of efficiency 200 245 over safe draw what do you think of the ml 120 fans they're fine I'll know more soon okay so we've got our power consumption numbers you're just plugging on the camera right now it's needs more power like everything else in this room how much do we have to donate to get you to cut that hair not gonna happen yeah I think run it without the tools running I think I did that I killed the hardware info for the last one okay so power consumption currently 167 168 1 71 and 172 can you get a shot of that right there so we're actually not pulling as much as I thought but if we would start pushing that way during the combine test may be I have a feeling of CPS drawing the most right now we're in a graph or actually is this combined err graphics that was graphics test - here comes the physics test so we'll know how much is drawing from a CPU load shouldn't be that much 128 pretty good amount therefore this 130 watts so we're leaving a hundred watts of headroom for the GPU it's 130 for CPU only the Martin 10k with ice cubes maybe black lodge games $2.00 thank you Star Trek or Star Wars definitely a Star Trek hands down TNG though okay so here comes the combined task for between tests right now and combined test coming up 160 170 264 I saw one 180 in there and 180 180 it's definitely high 190 well 200 there you go huh 195 so I don't know how much Headroom is baked into here after overhead I can actually feel the power brick vibrating from the the fans I think coming through the table 63 okay so we're back idle now 99 49 okay what can I do let's try we really need GPU score that's what we need so 965 was stayed well what about 975 and 1400 seems stable now that's not enough of a change though hmm maybe some memory tuning closing other background processes maybe that's a memory yes can't read it okay so XMP too I change this here now okay so 17 1939 TCL so it's set 17 1939 24 is what we've got stock 4x I'm P Tyr does it read it out no yes oh cool nice one try sixteen TCL sixteen-hour defaults better than the proof or than acted okay Rast 39 could get away with better 24/40 WR WR 24 brass 39 just get to where that is first how is it resetting everything that's annoying what's default 1.3 24 okay the multiplier actually don't know what speed memory this is like what the kit is SPECT for where is it H X 4 3 2 where's my memory speed HyperX 4 3 2 s 2 0 found something okay here it is so the spec is might be 3200 for this one yeah it is it's ddr4 3200 what are the timing spikes for us you know so oh I see okay so XMP two dropped down to 29 33 and it's 17 19 19 whereas XMP one is 3200 at CL 20 so definitely the tighter timings gonna be better for us here but maybe we can also push for a better frequency although 200 megahertz is I'm gonna get us a lot so we're gonna stick with tighter timings and let's just let's push for like a 1405 now that I know what memories back is see that's stable then I can put the CPU a little bit actually see if there's any like Adobe applications or anything like that in the background not really anything to kill nope not even worthwhile okay so see if this will stay alive kind of getting to the end of this one but do you want 10k this actually socket all memory so I could put a different kid in I don't want to do memory timing turning on stream not particularly great at it ha all right so clearly not stable - not like that GPU overclock so we're currently our score if you're just tuning in is about ninety nine sixty five and I wanted 10,000 so we're very close fire strike score the score puts us between a 1050 Ti and a 1060 or around a 570 in performance for the GPU CPU performance is ahead of a 1500 X overclocked and ahead of an 80 600 K stock but behind an 80 600 K overclocked to 5 gigahertz by a couple thousand points in physics core so that's kind of the recap get everyone up to speed on where we are now and I think I might give it one more go with some memory or some CPU tuning and then probably call it there cubes everyone wants ice cubes so $90.99 it might be nine I don't know it wasn't the score ninety nine sixty three and I said ninety nine sixty five what difference does two points make delete system32 might worry that's a good suggestion there are no more power limits to remove someone says spend a bit of time looking at bios I have the reason we're using X and X to you is because there aren't power options to disable in BIOS so we've turned off all the power constraints that we can turn off anything Alice's stuff that either I can't touch or isn't exposed or doesn't work okay Stargate or Star Trek Phi star mmm Star Trek sp1 is good though okay so we're gonna take off that extra five megahertz on the GPU then like that and we can probably take up a bit on the HBM getting kind of stuck though I get afterburner I don't have internet access on this machine right now okay so we'll just deal with this otherwise I'd get after burn around here 1400 hopefully it stays 1400 970 max this out okay next to you did he use liquid metal yes there's thermal grisly conductor not on there I don't know why someone says why the 12 watt per meter Kelvin pace or 80 we are using 80 it's it's conduct enough okay so we want oh it's back to 100 let's go up to 101 went 1-2 let's bring this up to 40 44 maybe if it'll hold this power limit unfortunately is bugged or doesn't work or something I don't understand so we try to max it it'll actually just reset so can't do anything with that let's go with this see if it's stable and then worst case we can try pushing like one or two cores up a bit higher or we could try pushing the reference clock a bit higher to 102 but I don't think that'll hold 101 with XMP two is gonna get us a bit more memory speed anyway so that will make up for the deficit with XMP 2 and we got the timing benefit okay swap out the GP for a net and video on yeah I don't think we can swap much of anything on this okay we got Alex five euro thank you Alex for the super chat donation I appreciate it how far do you think of 2700 X can be pushed on closed loop liquid cooler say IO is also worth putting a 1080 ftw2 on a custom loop or leave it hybrid hybrid and cost the loop we're gonna get you about as far on either one in terms of temperatures so it's gonna come down to how you want your system to look and if you want the flexibility to add more stuff to your loop in terms of thermals and frequencies don't worry about it a whole lot the hybrid setups because it's a dedicated the closed loop for the GPU they're about as good as you can get without exotic cooling you could put a bigger radiator on there it'll help a bit but really not that much in our testing single-digit degree differences for a lot of instances and then what was the other question how far can be pushed on liquid coolers so we were doing about four point two gigahertz on our 2700 X with an X 60 to 280 millimeter liquid cooler and I've seen a couple do like 4.3 or something but not too many so also single versus all core is gonna be different to the CBD ratio reset didn't I did it okay I'll check it right now I guess I thought it was set to 48 what does that say 48 right no the cash ratio reset did i good i chat did it reset because I adjusted this I don't know why that reset interesting okay oh the reference clock reset - does one influence the other seems correct right now okay let's try that then good eye chat all right so next question Alex and chat when Tech Jesus gives you two minutes most time Martin Parker five quid wood and EGP you be against the spirit it has a thunderbolt port also what CPU is that okay so first of all it's an 88 o 9g secondly I consider that I have this box right here is technically an e GPU option so I considered it I would like to livestream it maybe it's better for a separate stream though when is moonlight mods going to release that block $2 from potato I don't know that they will email them or something if they have a contact on the website tell them you're interested I'll let them know that people are interested in this stuff but email them let them know anyway I don't know chat external GPU yes or no it'd probably be a different day I have to like I don't have any space for it we'd have to hook it up but even though that's against some of the spirit of this we're basically just overclocking the CPU at that point so let me know if you're interested in that we can do a thing with it if you are ok fire strikes still going there's a motherboard cool on both sides it doesn't really need to be but this fan up here first of all there's a fan on top blowing air down mostly for the the inductors at the top of the vrm and then the air coming up from under it is going to naturally cool the other small components on this side and none of those really need cooling I mean you're talking about an SSD and some memory and those are getting air flow which they don't even really need that much of considering it doesn't have any normally Motorsports 199 hashtag please cube really want an ice cube in there ok we're on to physics we've got two more to go through noé GPU pointless yes a GPU on a custom loop that'd be kind of interesting but for like the Titan V in there with a water block on it in the e GPU dock is that interesting I don't know what chad is he reading well clearly the one you just typed into stargate verse Firefly Firefly what is current limit throttling if you mean what which component is I would assume XT is talking about the CPU if you mean what is it it's when in this case when the system has a built in current either current protection or some other like we're out of we're not out of power Headroom we're at 200 watts so we're kind of ok it's getting kind of high actually maybe we should do an external another brick but current limits going to be just the any protections on the board that we can access at this point that are limiting how far we can push the amount of amperage going into it ie current the Marten a GPU yes only if Ice Cube is cooled 99 12 did we go down I think so yeah so he might be weird we good we went up in GPU so there might be thermal limited at this point thermally limited can I get away with a little bit lower voltage I really don't think so is there anything else let's leave that where you know for thermal throttling that's not gonna matter tempted to try like a 102 okay let's let's drop this and let it run and see if it crashes probably will and then I'm considering doing like a 102 reference clock if I can get the voltage a bit lower and drop the multiplier or something are there bandwidth limitations with the EGP does that make going to a higher performance model pointless any probably it was a Titan V I think so but also it'd be fun so yeah maybe let me um let me do one more thing to I want to break out the extra power brick just in case and we'll do like one pass with that Thanos we're kind of thermal limited too so I don't know how much looks really gonna matter why don't you with less voltage yeah if it holds it looks like it's holding right now power consumption is at 187 watts try push-pull on the radiator hi 102 why is throttling only with 200 watts it's well current is not necessarily water so current times volts because you watched and why is it throttling I don't know there might be a protection here for X amps like in some boards you might see a 50 amp over current protection so I don't know what it is on this one we've removed all the limits we were able to but that doesn't mean there aren't more ultimately it's not meant to do this so there might be DIC some software solutions $2 ice cubes question mark all right it's just a reminder as we're closing out here if anyone grabs anything on store document access net I'll shout out your name what you bought where you're from in the in the live stream up until the point of attending which we'll see how this does I guess but we've got the mod mats which are in stock now since the the work service I'm on and we've recently discovered fairly heat-resistant it's in a video and accidentally discovered pretty water-resistant after leaking a whole bunch of liquid on it also we just restocked all the autographed ones if you buy them hopefully I can get one signed before I leave for combi tax if not it'll be like two weeks but I'm gonna do my best to get out there ASAP and sign somewhere before I leave and we're on physics test we have combined to go we also have the if you want something cheap and easy but still really cool we have these $10 keychains we just made it's just kind of like a cool swag item technically has a light in it if you buy the batteries for it but yeah sweet keychain we got made or the bigger crystals if you like those for something pretty unique and cool for a YouTube channel someone says where is it why your attempts so high on that big radiator I think we just kind of have some contact limitations between the block and the CPU at this point I don't know what we can do about that like I said before the fins aren't really micro fins so we're kind of limited there to certainly better than the CLC was but we are going to run its limitations like air flow and size only does so much Tim same exact score but a lower voltage so okay I'll save this profile dan let's I guess try a 102 that's gonna pushing it though yeah okay let's try that let's see if it just crashes if that doesn't work we can try 101 with like two cores at 49 see how quickly this dies we have some more voltage Headroom I guess I did pull out that other power brake too checking the liquid tamp yeah I mean we could we could push the HBM o'clock a bit more 925 9 85 yeah we try that too I know it crashes for sure at a thousand so we're close to our limits there let's give this a shot everyone wanted one or two reference clocks we're gonna do that first and then then we'll come back to the other option you have 49 multiplier in something I was talking about that - how long will it take maybe prank call lioness or Jay until it's done I'm sure both of those very not busy men would appreciate that so we're running a graphics test anyone's curious about power it's 184 right now and it's gonna drop a bit because we're between tests but I'll go back up again in a second have you considered doing the GM logo inside of a hollow box what is that do you know what that is so the glass cubes we have are it's it's laser engraved in the glass cube and it's got some pretty intense 3d details but I don't know if that's what you mean by hollow box I can look it up we're still running graphics tasks yeah there's the cube so it people are saying and then we'll try an ice cube extended mod matte mousepad like a bigger version of the mod matte except another four feet for your mouse and keyboard shipping eight foot ten pound matte we do want to do mouse pads and mouse mats I know it's interesting we're looking into it actively Ice Ice Baby does the Nook have some weird added cache I am not too sure honestly I haven't looked into if it's done it in funky on the architecture side other than Vega that way higher on the graphic I don't know I actually don't remember I think that's high so we crashed on this CPU test let's give it points or five more volts okay then not like that final plug in the other power break just in case why not at this point why not try everything before the stream happens I hear if you tweet gamers an access hashtag please queue but you'll get ice cubes what's the difference between a mousepad and a mouse mat I guess I just make the distinction in terms of like how big it is so I might have a mouse mat is like like mouse and keyboard but I don't know if that's actually a thing okay so we're gonna try a different power brick see what it does if anything and I have an EVGA laptop one next to me for one of their SC laptops it's an extra 40 extra 10 watts 240 instead of 230 I just need to route the cable out from the maze okay that's fine I guess where's that would I put the brick adjust that in my hand did you see where I put that uh oh there it is okay so he's double check the specs 19 volts twelve point six amps versus nineteen point five volts eleven point eight amps close enough to give it a shot there's a big EVGA brick cables everywhere think it'll fit - is there a gamer's accent mod for the computer build simulator people have asked me to try and get the mod met into that I don't know what the process is for doing that okay power is it going to turn on should her extra 10 watts flip the power drop monitor while it's off yeah too late sorry ripp Hades Canyon an asshole with a knife five Canadian his camera guy allowed to talk or do you pay him to not speak he says yes okay all of our settings are the same last time these didn't hold yes I agree with this comment point 5 volts difference is nothing to worry about since it's less than 10% Nautilus back to the original also it's on the lower side so we're current I guess but we're doing that anyway why is this not opening there we go I just realized I was making the Zelda theme song noise which is gonna get us banned from YouTube by Nintendo okay see what that does if anything yes I know use third-party OC tool I've heard you cash multiplier thank ya 39 I'm not connected to internet on this machine right now I try I would have downloaded afterburner otherwise 102 0.12 48 for 4 and then max on the stuff that matters okay all right so what are we gonna get 99 63 again or it's crashing right now I think pretty sure it's about the crash what's the margin of error in these that's pretty high actually but yeah that's a fire strike in general all hail the camera guy that'd be Angie by the way for filming this he is a disciple for sure okay oh there it goes it's rebooting right now alright why are the power supplies in parallel yeah sounds great I am still trying to get a custom one in but if I do that we might as well do a something with a liquid cooler - I don't know chill the radiator or different block or something like that cuz we're gonna hit thermal limits anyway I got an order in from Shane Thank You Shane we appreciate your order of one tear down a crystal statue with LED base go into I think that's Wyoming be cool Hector from New York New York picked up one of the $10 Gian logo keychains Thank You Hector the very least it gives me something to do while you wait for this reboot please no more crashing I you know this would be a lot easier if we had more thermal Headroom so I think the next step is possibly a chiller or something like that I'll talk to alpha cool and see if we can get one of those in pretty sure they would send this one that's probably the next step though and that would have to wait till after Computex if we did it ok wat man 1400 was relatively stable 979 70 was stable try not to change too many variables at once 3dmark okay alright that's a good sign so all the settings are the same I think it's gonna crash but let's try it put salt in the reservoir mod matte sleeping bag we have you have the motherboard with a thermal camera I don't have anything set up right now for that we could but throwing some cameras are kind of nice for that but also emissivity and reflectivity or problem although not mom there's enough reflective stuff on here where you'd want to black it out but literally just put the hose in a bucket of ice I've thought about that we would want to we want to insulate some of the components around the block just in case there's condensation buildup so I can put blue shop towel around that or something $2 do not say my name or where I am from thank you I think I did that correctly you're welcome the sickness 2:29 ice next to rad intake yeah you could do that too not the best fit for today with the space we have and what we plan for but you can always come back and do more live streams so that'll give us we have a lot of options for the next one really want to see if this will hit 10,000 it's running this time so far so we'll see if it holds in the physics test that's the real test right now we're in graphics 2 graphics 2 seems sort of stable I mean it hasn't crashed so it is stable I guess I'm just hesitant to say it's stable that's when things crash also this thing is amazing I don't know what it is though the art in the corner alright mmm Jane Newton why does everyone keep behind Steve attack Jesus I'm sure he'd prefer Steve all right did it crash yes dang what it crash on CPU yes let's go down to 101 and let's I think this is gonna be our last thing try 49 now I was not gonna let me do that okay fine 49 that's really not gonna be too much different what we just did unless it's actually stable then it will be it's a crashing already MIB crashing already that that might be it we might be stuck at 99 62 for this stream what's the power usage with the Durham psu any different not really I think I saw it go up in extra five watts but we also had it overclock differently someone sighs Tech Jesus Steve is just too long yes that's what he meant turn the water in the loop into wine in parlor tricks okay to box Clifton ward hey man put some Steve blood in the tube you guys have a weird obsession with this idea okay so I don't know that might be where we stop I'm gonna let me try one last thing just for the for the show of it we'll do a bit higher on the HBM see if we can get 980 and we're gonna leave the cpu stuff alone because that's clearly not going any higher and then that'll be it so let's see if we got the extra 30 or so points 40 points you just look at metal we are I see yeah we just need I don't know maybe slightly better contact I can put bigger fan like better fans on here anything that would let us push more voltage I think would help because we need more voltage but I don't have the thermal Headroom for it so that's my big limiter right now all right but the water is condensing it's too hot ice ice cubes for the show of it we should just put one ice cube in the Louvre just just everyone gets what they want 1:01 was stable let's still on let them ideas last thing okay all of that stable well was previously does this have built-in wireless no so I would get afterburner otherwise all right so I said we're gonna try 1400 with a 980 HBM 980 max why I think that should hold the settings when I close it yes okay let's get rid of that and then this should hold the settings as well let's get rid of that just in case not much else to get rid of go away onedrive no one wants you quit 3dmark alright so before the cube if ice cube works the internet will break literally one ice cube I don't think it's going to change a whole lot probably waiting a few minutes between tests and letting the water cool down with you just as much Age p.m. does run over one gigahertz yeah I can't even get it to 1 gigahertz it crashes at that South Bridge chip is naked PCH doesn't need any cool line it's like couple watts Ice Cube hate onedrive rip onedrive ffff wrap it in RGB LEDs so it goes three thousand percent faster all right we can lower the tax turn tessellation sighs I guess for the score okay drop the entire thing it's a mineral oil rat and all yeah that's trashed so crush the ice cube for surface area okay the crash line graphics that time so that was that HBM change its refresh out of options here I already know setting that voltage it's gonna crash it 970 okay gram to all right so I wish it would just let me change stuff here let's drop see what if we can do anything here I'm not really great at memory timing stuff alright so 17-week at least copy what they have what their profile is to start oh is it actually carrying over our TP 12 RFC 5:14 yes t fall 31 memory multiplier 22 okay I had CP z on here as well sorry now to reboot as I change these kite that's a big jump there you go one you can get 1.2 or 1.3 5 volts a clock multiplier is maxed so it seems to me carrying everything over what is the default frequency I think I might actually have CPC on here all right what should i what should we go with changing push for 16 or something give me some thoughts and chat I can't run far FC should be higher or lower I think we want lower but give me some suggestions chat what do you think who knows more about memory overclocking 1.35 bother you fine yeah but another sticks can take 1.5 I don't know how this memory controller is but whatever sticks can definitely take it for sure it's just I don't know about the memory controller okay other suggestions let's get chatting chat please overclocking let's get to 10,000 cuz I'm out of ideas drop that thin and Novak fluid arm she should be lower okay ice cubes now the counter suggests one Ice Cube isn't gonna get us the hair increase the multiplier yeah we can do that okay dataq dude logic Steve 99 63 equals 10k write it close enough mate does it play well with XMP profiles seems okay 16 16 16 26 we can try that 33 34 yeah we can try a couple of these things 21 16 16 16 40 16 16 16 26 lot of suggestions okay so what are we setting to someone wants 26 or lots 40 so let's let's try it just let me see if cpu-z is on here Hannah or actually does this read the memory speeds that's all I really need memory speed there it is okay cool so does that live update yes it does let's go 24 what other changes what do we want tear as to be TRS TRS and TR CD give me an order so TCL we've got 16 right now we know it's stable at 17 what do we want TR CD and tear as to be 36 not 26 okay yeah thanks okay 16 it's your ass can't go lower than 28 the VCCS a I don't know if we have vccs a options I can look 16 16 17 34 what clock speed are we I think we're at 48 50 or 60 or so all right 36 16 I want one too low on to your ass but let's give it a shot that sure I can see it builds oh he's awake - yeah the waterblock helped a lot someone's asking about help helped a lot for sure we're at 99 63 points we started out like 8000 something so I want an extra 30 something points to get up there we're super close two orders came in while this is rebooting Jeff from Canada Ontario I think ordered a mod Matt thank you Jeff for that that'll ship probably tomorrow or the next day and William from Florida ordered a Raglan 2-tone hoodie thank you William for that certainly appreciate it that's one of my favorite designs we have lots of stuff in chats here a 36 okay what's going on over here keep in mind we've got a reference clock boost it up a lot to you it's on but I'm not getting signal so might just be bugging out or it's not stable with those settings might need 16 18 18 36 okay 16 18 18 36 we're just going for a couple more points on memory someone's that if for the people asking 16 I don't think the voltage goes higher than one 0.35 okay I'm just rebooting it right now think it's a g.skill kit no it's actually a HyperX kit when can I look forward to a mod map to a map being shipped ordered one about a week and a half ago yes that was backorder then but we got them in I think Friday so they I mean obviously have to pack them in everything so that was happening all weekend so they're gonna they started shipping on Saturday and then they're gonna continue shipping all this week so pan which round yours goes out and it's definitely shipping in the next few days if it hasn't already it may have already shipped put horizon 7c beyond the raster for all right should just do that stuff ice cube yeah that's the other things people are saying let that leave cool that would probably help too so I think the memory settings I chose are unstable so probably up to clear BIOS and get it all going again I might call it and let's just I guess reset bhaiyya I don't know I kind of want to call this we have to film hardware news super close 963 might just revisit it after copy text or something are you double streaming on Twitch I don't know maybe we should eat how many of you preferred twitch versus YouTube okay so let me know each one that you watch what about an 8 gigabyte kit with lower tires yeah unfortunately it's it's so dim memory and I don't really have any of that so I'd have to start asking I can probably get some from g.skill let's see I got another order in while this is up there guys okay so the restore defaults button doesn't seem to always work memory 22:16 let's try 17 17 all right it's a boundary for oh my head misread that okay build so I see filled Zoids on are you there build Zoids there I'll take it suggestions otherwise pushed out to next stream probably for the memory twitch twitch better chat twitch not lagging I'm like YouTube I think the video lags does it I think it's just the maybe this the chat I have a different latency setting then probably I should maybe flip the whole case on the rat is very cold like like throw it so I think needs some cooling down little radiator needs some consulting on the memory time it's super close there I've got pretty pretty far four point eight eight figure is 48 60 40 and 80 there just crash or is it adjusting soft okay it's just and so I'm going to increase the multiplier again 24 from 20 to my memory and that for sure it's gonna be the last thing I think 24 reboot yes yeah I have a feeling that IMC for that CP isn't that great with Titan tyrants probably correct break out the ice chest 1618 1838 yeah well I mean this booted I guess we'll give this shot all right so yeah we can get more memory from g.skill or something else ordered a mod Matt they're in stock correct yes that is correct they are shipping as the orders come in at this point would be nice for let you adjust IO NSA along with tertiary times yeah I would be able to do much the tertiary aside from help but the IO and si voltages would be nice to adjust so this is having trouble with the timings we've put in well with the specifically with a multiplier does not like 3200 megahertz so here's what I do on reboot I'm going to set the multiplier to what stable 22 and we're going to see at the 1617 36 whatever settings I put in are good without the multiplier like because we only need a couple points really so okay it's a soldered memory no it's actually sewed em so they are socketed and they're replaceable but I don't have any any other so dim memory I just have the HyperX impact that they shift this with alright so performance memory going down to 22 we're gonna go up to a 102 reference clock or 101 actually 1 I want a reference clock this is hopefully hopefully is gonna be it cuz I don't have any other ideas did get super far though let me have you with it just need to see if even boots so right now we're set up on we have a different power supply it's 240 watt instead of 230 not a big deal not really using it reusing like 200 watts or so and 360 radiator openly custom block on the CPU and the GPU and the HBM which are all on one one packed one substrate anyway and pushing 48 60 48 80 megahertz on the CPU which is quite high cuz stock it was about 4200 max for our overclocked 4243 it's where 600 megahertz higher or more and we also have the GPU now heading 49er megahertz stable so now we're just it's a question of the memory settings at this point but really pushed it pretty far so far hey that's the setup cool very good okay and over here still set so see if it dies straight away or not upside the water supply had a bit of time to cool down turn off the camera lights lower the ambient by 20 points the rocky 2 quid ice that's all I said thanks again for all the orders today everyone that's really extremely supportive we really appreciate it it's gonna help a lot with Tommy Tex coming up so while this is going I'm gonna talk a bit about combi tax because I think it's kind of a fun topic and it's so chaotic once we're on the ground you don't get a whole lot of insight as to what's going on basically we show up early we're gonna do a factory tour that'll be really fun we'll be filmed we're gonna show how some components are made I'm not gonna sure what it is yet but we've done factory tours of case factories in the past like in wins which I need to book a meeting with them still done Factory towards Ben Z X T's many years ago and now we're gonna do one with another company in Taiwan we've done also gigabytes fact you should do that again to you because I was super rushed last time but anyway a lot of factories out there so we do a factory tour the I'm really looking forward to the Guan hua Digital Plaza which is it's cool we have a video on it from last year let me see what we titled that video I'll share it in chat YouTube gamers Nexus One for Digital Plaza yeah so it's a gigantic computer mall and here it is if you're curious we're gonna go back there again so we're going back there again this year it's really fun and I got a $2.00 in for a two quid from storms you so hasty about what you guys do keep it up thank you so I'm still going here but yeah that computer marketplace is super cool like you walk into some shops and it's just wall-to-wall like resistors and capacitors like thermocouples and stuff that in the US if you sold that I mean look at Radio Shack I guess and you know what happens so it's it's cool see it actually survived there the main building is just I want to say it's six storeys might be four but I think it's six storeys of basically sort of like just independent vendors with computer stand so last year the year before when Rison was last year when Rison was still pretty new there were a bunch of the vendors getting rising in so they'd rise and boxes out and there's a lot of knockoff stuff that you get for cheap so that's kind of cool to see in person there's a lot of legit stuff as well and it's not actually cheaper for the most parts like actually at I remember we talked I'm just talking all this finishes but there are X 570 we showed in that video that I linked in chat and it was want to save us $30 over MSRP and we're like yeah that's not a good deal and we got back and all the mining stuff happened and I basically should have bought all of them and brought them home and sold them to miners because it was actually a pretty good deal considering the mining boom oh my god we did it what's the opposite of f4 respects is it G is it gg gg ten thousand nine points Thank You Chat for giving me the suggestions on memory we didn't do a whole lot of the multiplier 22 I dropped today I think I did 16 17 36 for the timings so that was enough for her for ten thousand nine awesome so ten thousand that's ten thousand nine points Hades Canyon I'm just gonna save that score so I can put it on harbor bots or something later so yeah there we go chat split up with GG's nice very happy with that right at the end here I was running out of steam so ten thousand nine in total score graphics score 11 9 5 5 physics score 14 300 combined score 3 7 4 6 so that right there the graphics score helped us out part of that might be because the loop had time to cool down so we're at 1,400 megahertz and 974 the HBM so man this is awesome that we achieved the actual goal that we set out to achieve so in terms of comparison if you're curious let's just do this one more time so eleven thousand nine hundred fifty five points on the graphic score is comparable to actually not far from a ten sixty let me see how far we are from that 12 five no way I misread that we're not far from a five seventy excuse me it's 12 five sixty - let's see eleven nine five five and nine nine five five it's like 5% away from an RX 574 gigabyte that is awesome that's extremely powerful so that's a Vega mmgh keep you pushing that 1060 is at 13,000 411 points give you an idea the CPU is at 14,000 327 and the physics scores for CPUs we have a 7700 K stock with 3200 megahertz CL 14 memory doing 14 605 so we're basically 7700 K right now we're ahead of a 1,500 acts up 4 gigahertz which is 13,000 45 and we are behind a 95 8600 K at 5 gigahertz which is 15 9 9 4 so that is the fields are just replied never mind we'll fill you in later ok awesome so there's your perspective on where all those settings are it requires ice still cubes Riot cubes Ice Cube for the last run I'm going to call that the last drop we're gonna call that the fix free lab because it's better to end on a high note so really happy with that got the 10,000 points I set out for it only took like 3 hours let's not bad actually first stream so got it I'm gonna read the last last couple super chats and things that's Steve's Trezza from the patreon discord you go to patreon.com/scishow sexist if you want to join our discord Strazza says that's pretty low result for 79 80 XE isn't it you think you're funny hey last couple stupid chats and things we'll come back and do another one of these streams later with when I have more of an idea on memory and with some more tools maybe a chiller or something like that alright so last few messages storms due haste oh you got that one cuts Mick vascular $2 can we get the GN shirts in bigger sizes tweet at me at gamers Nexus it's the easiest way or email support at gamers Nexus dotnet and let us know specifically what sizes you want because we can kind of fit one or two of the different sizes in in each production run but I can't do one offs so let me know and then next time we do a run I can get it in and so you've got a couple more jennifer order gigi congrats thank you very much $10 the Rakhi GG $5 the Martin $5 GG but before we end can we try one or two ice cubes next time I promise we'll do a chiller or ice cubes James Bond 4.99 today was a good day signed ice cube now you making me feel bad that we don't have ice cubes and that's it I've got all the orders right out got all the super chats right out so thank you everyone for watching I see all the cube requests I hear you it's been three hours so we're gonna call it but lots of fun really appreciate the chat support on getting the extra memory timings in that's probably my weakest area I need to learn right now so yeah ten thousand nine points if anyone's 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