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okay I think we should be live please let me know in chat as soon as you can see us and hear us we should be good on audio and video and stuff like that but let me know so I'm still waiting for the video to pop up on my own hopefully it's going through if it is we are going to be doing a live overclock it looks like it's going now going to be doing a live overclock of the Titan V and the 79 to 80 XE the goal here is to beat Linus's score or his team's score they recently just they did that singularity PC I think and they had I don't even know I think was a Titan V 128 gig of ram 79 AD XE and basically they passed our rank on the 3d mark Hall of Fame which is not okay so we're gonna take that back I actually I think let me check on their score right now you know where they are and when we're trying to hit previously I was using Hardware bots and they were using they were just using the time spy extreme Hall of Fame that's built in with future mark so let's do a lioness and team guy and they did by the way they did a great job this is just like a friendly media battle basically it's a little fun for everyone Linus got a we can actually we can show this screen for a second all full screen that are you able to see from that angle so I don't know if you guys can see from that angle but Linus got a 80 92 for his score this is times by extreme and we are down at 11th place we ran this test last when the Titan view was closer to launch was newer so I think we can take that we can definitely get up close to it we're gonna be fighting over like single-digit points towards the end but let's look at their score and so they did 77 31 GPU and 11,000 CPU and that's what we're gonna try and beat today so that's that's what we're shooting for I'm gonna check chat make sure everything looks good and then we can start doing some overclocking by the way we're a bit late because I tripped the breaker so overclocking and and tripped the breaker because we had the streaming PC which is below this desk running on the same circuit and it's thread Ripper machine as the benchmark machine and the benchmark machine was only doing like a thousand watts and the the streaming one was doing a couple hundred Watts the lights are doing some wattage so we tripped the breaker sorry but we're here now I actually have the stream in PC hooked up to an extension cable it's running into the bathroom so that pretty much solves our problems and we are not overclocking vacuums today I'm sorry alright so you don't really first I guess we can go over the bench I'll show you what's what's in it for as best as I can anyway let me try and scoop by do you want this light pointed at the bench okay so this is really not meant to be films but we're gonna try yeah so bench I'll just point it out from off camera I guess careful cameras go in handheld all right so this is kind of crazy right now basically we have an ek waterblock setup on the Titan B and hopefully everything's good because I can't really see chat from here so this they just sent me all this stuff I don't even have the stickers peeled off ek pumping reservoir going into the Titan V and then into a 360 radiator on which I have mounted a I don't even know it's all kinds of fans we have a soon on maglev fan here we have a Vardar fan here we have a Corsair maglev fan here same thing basically a little slower this one's only at 80% so we have some Headroom there over on this one obviously fans aren't at max speed right now maglev maglev non LED maglev and those are on a 360 thermal take flow radiator which is going to the CPU so there's separate loops one's an AI ones a CLC and one's an open-loop basically and that more or less covers up us the VR M is being cooled by the two EVGA fans on the X 299 dark for the memory we have Trident Z it is 3600 megahertz I think CL I don't know 18 or something I can't remember but that's g.skill memory 798 exe x-29 dark we have a noctua nfa 14 right here that's just blowing down to make sure the V RMS are cooled in case anything's got loose contact and I think that covers most of it except the power supply power supply is a Corsair a X 1600 i and it's one of the best power supplies you can get right now so ax 1600 I for that and this is also why we trip the breaker earlier but that was my fault so okay hopefully Chad's good we're gonna remount the camera give it a second so hopefully the pump was pulled from eight dice that would be much better all right so that's that's all the basics hopefully enough people are in here now it gets started but if you have questions about the setup spam chat someone will let you know where I'll see it at some point and I'm just waiting for Andrew to finalize the lighting setup and we'll be good to go but yeah that's what we're gonna be testing so what CP is easy I just said it I just said what CPU were using it's a 79 80 XE so yeah basically yeah one quick thing before this I was talking with build Zoid and we're talking about how if people people like me people like Linus we really have no business being on the top of any Hall of Fame thing because we're not like the pro overclockers the theta is that now because there are no price divisions with hardware bots you're getting more or less by your way at the top now there's still some overclocking skill involved obviously we still have to out overclock Linus but we're not gonna overclock someone like kingpin or get Bauer or build Zoid so it's a bit weird that you can buy your way up I hope Hardware bots introduces price class divisions in the future but for now it benefits us you guys that's fine okay so let's take a look at the system we're just gonna film the screen for today because we have enough technical issues with with other things but yeah that's that's fine so alright right now I have no CPU overclock applied we're on stock settings for everything in stock GPU I have actually shorted the shunts on the GPU so we're a bit ahead of where we would be typically so I've shortened the shunts let's just let this run and see what kind of score complete baseline gets that way everyone can appreciate the climb to the top as it goes but yeah so the short the SH the shorts are shunted the shunts are shorted there are three of them on the Titan V that you need to short and we have a video on that in the past but basically I've got liquid metal on three of them it's there grisly conduct or not I have enough on there the more you put on the more you'll you'll short them out you can hit a point where it doesn't really do any or do it actually breaks your clocks so we've done a moderate amount I know there was a Lewis rossmann video recently I'm like don't short your video card shunts the thing is shorting shunts is there's a few things about it first of all we don't know what his customer did they if you put too much on and it spills over it can eat the solder around the outside of the shunt so don't flood it with liquid metal secondly for what we're doing it's for benchmarking I mean it's gonna be for however long the stream is and then we'll wipe it out so it's fine for the kind of things we're doing here but I still wouldn't necessarily recommend it for daily because you're only getting a couple percent performance uplift which is what we want for a competitive benchmarking especially vs. lioness who has a lot more money than we do and can solve the problem by throwing more money at it but for daily usage I wouldn't really recommend it that said there's been some discussion by their Bower on liquid metal and shorting shunts and I believe the last time he talked about he didn't see any any any of the solder chewed away with a responsible amount applied so I don't know anyway wanted to adjust that cuz I know people have seen the Lewis draughtsman video he's got great points however there are also reasons to shorten shunts so we we disagree a bit there but he's also not coming at it from an enthusiast perspective so he's got a completely different take on it we're in graphics test 2 now we still see P it has to go this is complete baseline right now everyone we are establishing okay you can short it with a piece of I of wire and a soldering iron the problem with doing stuff like that you basically need a really long wire because if you apply too much liquid metal or in this case too short of a line you'll end up with broken clocks it'll basically go into 2d clocks like 156 megahertz or something because NVIDIA has sensors on the GPUs that will see the resistances way off and it'll freak out and break itself until I think you can fix it just by removing the wire or the liquid metal but um yeah extra I'm pretty sure you can because if you do too much liquid metal will do the same thing so there's a reason you do liquid metal unless you're gonna run like a really long wire or something what's okay we got our first super chat Sean says what cpu are you using a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha laugh all you want but if you're giving me 2 bucks to say 79 80 XE I'll take it that's what we're using currently under stock settings thank you for the donation I appreciate it and what else do we have here so yeah first runs going let me see if there's anything really interesting I can talk about some of the setup I guess during setup for this other than tripping the breaker and setting us back 30 minutes we also had some issues where I wasn't sure that the block was making full coverage like actual contact with the vrm components so took it all apart while it was hooked up to liquids basically like holding the block over here and reapplying thermal pads and thermal paste and everything to the GPU seems ok now I hope it's making contact EK recommends one one millimeter thickness pads but we yeah we're using one millimeter so it seems okay and next one I don't know how to pronounce that mate Mattei says you can solder a resistor there then yes you could actually solder another shunt resistor on top of the shunt resistor and basically piggyback them we're not doing that I want to be able to restore this to basically stock settings after we're done it's way easier for me to spend 30 seconds putting liquid metal on it and then clean it off later but you're absolutely right you could put multiple shunt resistors on there and it probably work a bit better thank you for the donation so ok I think we're almost done with the first run we can check with the CPU or what the score is for complete baseline then I'm going to tell you what line has got so we know what we're trying to this is the new meme our our four says I gave two dollars said say 79 80 XE no no I will not say Sony 1980 XE $5.00 from Jack who says if you screw up I will be very disappointed you are not alone thank you okay so next one or here's our first first baseline score no overclocked just to give everyone some perspective if you ran it out of box the out of the box score is seventy seven seventy seventy four times by extreme for reference graphics here is sixty nine hundred and CPU is seventy eight hundred so while you're looking at that score I'm going to read you what Linus got again just so we know what we're shooting for Linus is currently ranked sixth and I suppose Alex on his team ranked sixth in the 3dmark Hall of Fame they did not submit to hardware ba I don't think and they have 80 92 for their scores so our baseline without any overclocks it needs a thousand points to get up to theirs and they got 77 31 on graphics so that one needs to be 800 higher to match theirs or so they got 11,000 CPUs so we have the most work to do on CPU and we can start with that I guess let me take two or three more of these super chats before I move on bazinga X where is the cat eat the cat we don't want snowflake anywhere near this machine right now she she'll knock things out like the fans are Christopher says are you in the intel extreme rig challenge no we are not I'm actually not familiar with what they're doing with that I've seen the name I don't know what it is this year and finally Brooke $2 is that a Dyson power supply no I don't think Dyson will ever want to talk to us so it is in fact not a Dyson power supply so I think we had 7000 something for our starting score and we're just gonna do some we'll start slow with the overclocks and see what all needs to be done I get some perspective on everything I am fairly confident we can get up to line us a score but I will see one thing I should note last time we did this stream with an X 299 dark motherboard I didn't know it but well actually it's an even matter we were using two sticks of memory and that was intentional we just didn't have more but it's gonna get loud for a second when I ramped these fans up so yeah we had two sticks of memory and that actually quad channel matters a lot more than I thought four four times by extreme times by extreme is crazy memory hungry actually I think we leave that one alone one of these assists to fan we want to eighty one of these is gonna be super loud so hopefully I got that okay yeah so last time we were on half memory channels is this time that alone is gonna change our scoring a lot I think we're actually already pretty close to our score with an overclocked last time let's just start with XMP and then go from there overclock let's start with a very simple one let's just do 45 I'm confident we can do 48 and then we can see if we can push it past there and we'll start with some basic voltage settings I'm gonna put in what I know our close to end values will be one point three five is not necessary for forty five pack so you need to turn off a V X and let's set mesh ratio to thirty-two so eight VX off mesh radio ratio thirty-two that's higher than last time we have four channels this time thanks to the Trident z kit that's in there right now so that'll be a big help currently only at 45 X for the multiplier and let me check apparently we get a bunch of super chats or something why are there so many of these um May it says do a vacuum cleaner instead of fans OC challenge it wouldn't be fair we would be barred from hardware bot for cheating like that Thomas says good luck thank you we will probably not need it but thank you anyway then ray says I respect you guys you don't have to say worse ok the SLS AMG what are they out of the box there are moles they're actually not bad we were in the 80s we had plenty of headroom when this was actually overclocked and played minecraft and test out of the box thermals No ok alright there's a bunch more I'll get to them in a moment alright so we're just gonna set 1.35 for now for V Corp V mesh let's do one point three five VSA one point let's try one point - if it's not stable go up to one point two five or something one point two for BCC i/o uncor voltage offset I want 500 millivolt offset I think that's gonna be most of our settings we'll mess with these a bit more later - but that's plenty for baseline it's more voltage than we need which is fine because I don't want to spend the whole stream crashing and blue-screen things like that alright then we're just gonna do XMP and see if it's stable and I think we should be good so let's start there and then we'll we'll pick it up after that okay so I'll read some somewhere these while that's restarting and then I'll do the rest apparently it's unhappy with something then I'll do the rest while it's running the three mark tests once we see if it even boots so many super chats though thank you I didn't get it which CPU was it yarn we've been over this come on man sorry 980 XE haha okay it's not happy with something see where is the cat the cat is not allowed in this room when there are seven fans sitting on top of the bench right now we're just kind of rebooting people eight five oh two five dollars if you give everyone a high five high five yeah he's gonna give me five dollars if I give everyone a high five thank you hey it's still rebooting it's a I'm gonna have to safety boot or something Justin didn't how's it going we ran a baseline applied a really simple overclock and need to change some settings base please where we are right now it's a booting this timer now okay we're gonna clear CMOS and boots please it's minor okay once it's done having a fit I'm just gonna flip the power there we go okay hopefully that clear to CMOS next ones mm-hmm so many you're still getting back into BIOS right now go forth Steve white my fellow Canadian off that positions hard line is nothing personal a sign my bat before you ship it we have a signed mod bad option on there that's speaking of those are coming in Wow let's get into BIOS please I think those will be here within the next ten days or so they get to us and then we will ship it out to anyone who ordered them at that point the mod Maps like the one I'm working on here if we've made some changes to them okay there we go finally finally so I think what tripped this I get a better angle this your angle still okay on that so let's just make sure it wasn't the memory and then CPU multiplier perk or let's do a 45 0 a B X 32 mesh not zero match 32 mash 0 0 100 BC LK extreme voltage might at 1.95 be core 1.35 is way more than enough but that's fine the mesh 5 BSA let's try one point two to five one point two for i/o on core 500 ok so let's start there hardware monitor we're just gonna blast these I'll figure out which ones to loud later okay alright what else what needs to be done memory we can there's a lot of memory tuning we can do later and we will do later but for now we'll stick with this stuff and I'll walk you through it once we can actually just get this thing to boot the UI Phii needs to be legacy ok all right so let me just double check myself here 500 1.0 1.2 two five one point three five one point three five yes one point nine five 4500 3200 okay let's let's see if it boots this time it's not I might need to train it or something all right so that's going to boot why is it beeping at me there's so many super chats I'm going to read through most of these as we get the benchmark running right now I need to get the Machine up and when time spies running will read through a lot of those J is on the list at number 24 yeah J I think did his video with with kingpin right that was pretty good one they flew kingpin out to J's studio and set it all up and I think he used that one too if I remember correctly considering a Titan V like I said basically buys your way to the top that's pretty good just got to get back into BIOS how's my ex 5660 gonna compare you should be cranking Dream Theater in the background while we wait yeah that's a great way to get the monetized instantly it's unfortunate I totally get it though come on let's go EVGA let's get into BIOS okay we go so let's just make absolutely certain everything is where it should be restore defaults look actually I should be fine per core 44 let's do that zero zero thirty-two don't really need this yet but whatever 1.5 one point now there's gonna be some let's just do one point two seven should be fine for this there's gonna be some annoying fan noise when I am NOT talking too loud sorry about that there's not a lot we can do about it we've tried oh this I need to disable this I missed that PSA one point two five sure 122 okay if this doesn't go like I want this time then we'll load a profile and see if that'll do do we have all memory channels yes there are options okay X and P one is this all Auto yes okay mess with that later legacy and fans I guess although you don't really need them like crazy right now okay hopefully this boots this time save profile Steve yes all right okay let's hope that boots make it easier all right lots of these things so it's morphin times as it's Steve time to kick Linus friendly ass let us see that is the kindest way to say that I love everything about this hashtag beat LTT what cpu is that so that it's a 79 80 XC you know line is gonna throw more money at it Kevin says it you could watch all TT video on the intel channel i could i don't yeah i don't know anything about it right now it sounds like it's booting this time that's good Tom's that says what GPU are using greetings from Norway we are using a Titan V that currently has a shortage shot mod on it and a Nikkei waterblock it's I think it might be I don't think it's the first they may be the second water block for Titan V either way UK sent that over with a 360 so that we could do this and these are working pretty well like I said I'm about eighty percent confident on the contact with the V RMS but I think we're good okay so we did boot now just just remind everyone we established a baseline of about 7,000 points when no overclocking anything was applied I think we're at four point four or four point five gigahertz I think four point four is what I set it to for right now nothing with memory yet and we're just gonna run this and you know I'm gonna I'm also going to get hardware info going and then we'll just check the temperatures after which should be absolutely fine there's not really overclocked right now okay so we'll check that after if it completes successfully and let's let that go all right so I'm gonna read some chat stuff while that's running oh yeah so just to catch everyone up there's a lot of new people here baseline score zero overclock at all on anything was about 7,000 points line assist score is 80 92 so we need to points his CPU score is 11,000 as GPU is 7700 last time my cpu score was limited to under I think 8000 points this is times by extreme I'm talking and a lot of that limitation we didn't know until later was because of the the memory how memory in tens of times by extreme is actually super memory intensive so having quad-channel boosted us instantly by a lot when I ran some preliminary tests so that's what we're shooting for test is running that looks somewhat successfully at least why not lnto I mean because the setup required and I think they were on water so we're gonna run water and see what we can do is just bit of fun anyway I know I've technically done lnto overclocking but it was under the guidance of one mr. dare power and you should check them out or build Zoid also if you haven't seen them what's sorry what see people ate 502 as promised thank you for the donation Hayden Steve you're the man congratulations in advance it's very confident of you thank you still running the benchmark by the way Cody says going to overclock your mom for two dollars okay mark and puff did you ever get your hair caught in a fan that's great question while we were messing around with the with putting the block back on the Titan V I was genuinely worried about that or actually when we were moving this monitor over here - yeah it's six really high rpm fans one of them spins at 3500 rpm and we have a a what are those what are these called softbox I guess we have a softbox kind of that's a little flimsy er I don't want the lights and it was getting sucked into the fans and until we added some tape to the bottom so yeah they are genuinely dangerous but no no I have not where is GN HQ are on the East Coast from Nicholas thank you Lord Dreyer says hey once you get rising to chips can you please do a four and six threaded bench I'm curious about how Boost 2.0 works out and those workloads we can look into it any comment on Tara's new video gamers exes I don't even know what it is let's we're still running the benchmark let me see what this video is you're talking about aqua exhale or is that it is that you're talking about is that the liquid he showed at Gamescom or something if it is if it is I mean I think it's cool I don't I haven't seen his new video though alright so next one will it bring the ten teraflop barrier now only one card can do that under the guidance of one man that was the real bot crusher thank you ones house left CPU test and then we'll have a second baseline to show you Piper will oh I'm back to let everyone know that they lost the game once again sorry just the messenger Thomas Q of the good work mate thank you please say I'm quoting I'm quoting here this is just a quote ebf says please say 87 100k is best I'm just reading a quote David Stoll G is $70 thank you more funds for the bucket I guess that'd be the ice bucket for next overclocked because we'll probably need to chill the fate of Linus retaliates or might need to go further than that invest in a plane ticket for build Zoid or something alright let's see what the score is for our second baseline overclocking by proxy in that instance how's my ex 5660 compared to that's not too well okay it's almost done by now 1080i tomorrow feee is pretty cheap should I get something else or will I be fine with water coin what a coins great there's no problem with water clean at all I it is it is overkill I guess in a lot of cases but but that's okay alright so for reference our temperatures were like 70 degrees on the CPU 73-67 is what that simple overclock got us so we've got another 800 points to go graphics core 7000 there at 7700 CP score 10 for 1 5 there at 11 thousand nine so yeah let's let's beat that one first and then we'll play around with the GPU after that and like I said there at eleven thousand nine I think that was ten thousand four hundred previously we were in the I want to say seven eight thousand range because we're running dual channel so he should be good there I would love to see an Ln two over Luke live yeah so we don't presently do that certainly something I've considered but I will plug build Zoid again he does great work if you're not familiar with them go check out actually hardcore over overclocked in his channel he does stuff with liquid nitrogen all the time okay and I think he's in chat to me so let's let's just do core first save everyone a bit of time I guess and hopefully let's push that 1.35 okay everything else okay yes all right so we're just going up to four point seven right now nothing with memory yet that'll come probably last just see if this freaks out again so I think we're at 77 the for for absolute baseline 7300 for the next baseline which is four point four gigahertz no GPU overclocked no actual serious CPU overclock okay it's booting good and now we're gonna see what a simple four point seven gets us and then we'll push the four point eight which is probably close to where this chip tops out I think it might be able to do 4.9 on at least some course our cooling is a lot better than last time we've got so the CPU is delayed it's 79 80 XE that's the new meme ones at since last time it's deleted I'm using thermal grizzly conductor not between the die and IHS and I'm using cryo not on top of it which is high thermal conductivity paste and then we've got a thermal take flow which is just I just basically by reasoning for that was I want a 360 radiator I want a fast pump I don't want to build a loop so the flow uses a 4.5 gen pump which is faster and we hooked that up with two maglev pros and one maglev not pro fan and that seems to be going pretty well okay so hardware info open just for maximum temperatures so we're currently what I say 800 points behind them I think got a bit of ground to gain shouldn't be too big of a deal I don't know does anyone know what clocks they were at because I'm actually I didn't pay too close attention to what they were benchmarking on okay so set that to run and this is just a time spy extreme benchmark again around four point seven right now and someone post and chat what what Linus is running cuz I'm not sure actually someone says it cool laboratory liquid ultra versus conduct and I've done that test I've done a lot of those tests with liquid metal and it tends to be a difference of about one degree Celsius which is often within margin of error so yeah there's not a honestly the liquid metals once you get that far down there's not a huge difference between them I think the biggest difference is how they react with different metals and I don't know too much about that but I can tell you about the performance and it's basically equal next one after this could you overclock a washing machine now no I don't think I can I don't know I'd start with that thoughts on liquid metal in GPU and people who keep saying like when I will dry out after year so okay a couple things here liquid metal on a GPU is not really worth it the risk is a bit higher especially on a Titan V your risk is considerably higher there are a lot of small SMDs surface mount devices surrounding the core of the Titan V and if you have any spillover and it gets on those you can short it best-case scenario it doesn't boot worst-case scenario you damage or destroy a three thousand dollar card additionally the well I don't know about Titan V Titan these a bit bigger and it's more is a bit hotter but typically with GPUs the direct eye contact that already exists between the cooler and the die is sufficient enough that liquid metal is not going to get you much more it's not like a cpu where you've got with Intel and the APS I guess you've got a layer of silicon adhesive that's somewhat thick and you have a layer of thermal paste that's somewhat thick and those two things together all pace isn't bad from a turn standpoint those two things together mean that Liquidmetal does a lot for you on the CPU side because you're bringing the IHS down closer to the substrate and closer to the die and you're obviously improving the thermal interface with something that has many times higher thermal conductivity so hopefully that kind of answers that Oh your other question like a metal drying out after a year we've talked a lot of people that that we've done some testing and some of it's still in progress and will be for a while but I can tell you that at least one year on with conduct or not we've been good on all the stuff we've deleted in the past year and I think most of our systems that are currently running with it are at about the 10 month marker no signs of degradation yet I haven't tried to other liquid metals I don't know how conducting art fairs past the one-year mark I've asked obviously biased but the people at thermal grizzly what their expectations are the company suggested that it should be good for at least two years but I haven't validated that because that takes time so that was a long a long time on that one but we are still running the benchmark we're on CPU test that's the last one for this I love your content good luck today from bill one chalo thank you nightcore fusion or I got your question I'm getting behind on these guys okay drak soul gaming will you do benchmarks for specter and meltdown actually I do want to do that I've done a lot of research on it I've spoken with Intel and what their expectations are I've spoken with researchers on their expectations I think right now we're just gonna wait for a little bit two reasons one some upcoming travel but to Intel keeps pushing these updates and I don't want to find myself in a scenario where I'm finishing all the benchmarks and then another one comes out so we're just gonna give it a week or two to cool down and see if if this is kind of it if they stop iterating because I I don't want it and that's a huge time investment like multiple generations of CPUs so we're just gonna wait and see when they're kind of done for now is that a cue 6,600 no that was not so not a txc thank you like gnosis at this point I'm starting to think Intel is just throwing a dollar at us to make us say that over and over you know you're all a bunch of shills that's what you are see how it feels turn the tides on you all right next test score is coming in and what are we 7400 K so at this point we need some play around with memory and GPU CPU score we're at 10 972 previously we're at 10 4 or something 10400 we're almost at 11,000 now linus is at 11,000 9 so we're more or less on par with him there let's finalize the CPU overclock and then start playing around with the GPU and that should that should get us up to where they are in the least if not past it so pretty good start though 10900 way beyond what we were last time largely thanks to quad channel Auto Frogger to attack Jesus you're my hero thank you thank you I'm glad to hear that I appreciate the super chat it is helpful ok so let's push that to 48 so we're at 4.8 gigahertz in theory hopefully this voltage is fine if it's not I'll push it up a bit we have the thermal headroom to do so I think we're in the 80s or something so we've got some room CPUs don't really care about thermals I'm like GPUs up until there t.j.maxx so until we're hitting like 100 degrees we're fine ok the rest of these all look okay for now it's a 48 there let's start doing some memory stuff it's 1.85 for voltage I'll leave those at 16 for now set that to 28 see if that works what else can we - we got a couple things we can do here this I want this to be otto EVGA if you're watching or if you watch later I here's what I want I want to be able to type in the letter A and make this say Otto and I don't does gyro work if I do that does your Everyman's your brain is a daughter ok well I still want to be able to type A Okay command right one let's go down here - 7 - 7 s or maxing out tre fi we're gonna bring down t RFC to 300 TW r I wanted written down to 16 I was talking to build annoyed about this again I've actually hardcore overclocking times by extreme takes so much memory I'm not sure we're gonna be able to maximum enough to get it stable maybe later maybe after everything else we come back to that 6 6 4 r WD r 6 4 r w DD 6 4 r WS r ok I think we can probably start there yeah 1.8 5 volts for memory should be fine no frequency missing the frequency let's go up to 4,000 this kit the G scale kits rated for 3600 I think it's like I don't know I guess at CL 16 I thought of a CL 18 but anything else I want to do here I think there is yes let's bring that to 6:00 okay all right let's try this actually we should save a new one Steve basic - all right okay so we're pushing for 4.8 gigahertz now 4,000 my cards memory hopefully see if it makes a post beep or not and I'm just listening for post so give me one second guys no okay sounds like it booted all right fun fact EVGA is motherboards boot beep once for every USB device plugged in on boot so if you want to make an orchestra of noise you can plug in like 10 USB devices it'll keep beating forever okay so that's booting at 4.8 matéo I think voucher $10 Canadian thank you very much for the super chat put this towards using mo RA 3 Pro next time I'm actually not familiar with that interesting this looks okay okay uh you have alerted me to it I will look into it for next time thank you for the heads up and the rest of the message says it will lower delta T ambience or fluid and can be easily put away from the set sounds good to me so we'll try that we'll try that next time 80 thank you for the heads-up there's an impossible amount of hardware to keep up with obviously so I do appreciate when you all let me know about something that I might not know about because then we can look into buying it and running some tests okay so 4.8 i'll drag this over here after we'll look at temperatures and let's just run times by extreme actually let's let's kind of save some time and just do the cpu so that's the only thing I've changed right now now we'll do windowed mode as well not gonna get a total score and our score will be a bit lower on the CPU history because it's the hardware info is running but that's not gonna matter all that much so okay that'll give us that'll let us know if it's stable or not and then from there we can go further Nikolas says try I feel like you're making me say something bad but it's not in English so YouTube won't care try and say Han Han let me translate this first translate.google.com it doesn't look that bad if that's that's actually what it means I have the volume off on this machine Road growed med flowed red porridge with cream apparently Danish I don't know okay I said it thank you for the superjet any comments to actually hardcore overseas new video I'm sorry I don't I don't like I don't know what they all are I have to go check what you do builds I'd would you do today OC adventure is reference HD 5870 that sounds fun Ram bandwidth versus frequency and timing sounds good also that was from Laura dryer next one is Mickel t says after this could you oh we got that one overclocked washing machine thoughts on liquid metal got that one what cpu running so every 980 XE right oh yeah yeah but if people keep doing super chat say it all right so here's our CBS score what was our temperature during that period we have some thermal Headroom not a lot anymore all right so first of all CPU score I'm gonna drag this over is 11000 654 now to give everyone a reminder I don't remember what do we start at was it like 7000 or something something like that our last one was ten thousand four hundred now we're at 11,000 654 as a reminder we can come back over to this monitor for one second yeah okay as a reminder here's Linus's score this is so there there's a couple scores with time spike extreme if you're not familiar there's the total score which is this one there at 8090 - we don't know what hours are hours is presently because I didn't run the whole thing you have the CPU score which is a physics test it's entirely CPU bound more or less eleven thousand nine we're sitting at eleven thousand 654 so we're okay there I might have some more room but I'm pretty happy with that right now so beating them their graphics score seven thousand seven thirty one I don't know where we're at out of box I think it's like seven thousand so we have a lot to gain here we're ahead here and we can probably do a bit more maybe with some more memory tweaking but I'm pretty happy with that starting point so they are at do they have the frequencies in here okay so they assuming this is all accurate they were at 4.8 gigahertz which is where we are right now I might push for four point nine briefly because we have about what's our temperature over here we maxed out during that test at 90 degrees yes we were roughly ninety degrees in that test so we've got about ten degrees of headroom a little last any five degrees so I might I don't know that's gonna be awfully close I don't think I might be able to do 49 maybe 49 at a couple cores but yeah that was so that's what they were running let me see what we can do for the next run here let's do we need to start figuring out now that we're having CPU kind of leave that there for a minute we need to start figuring out what our total score is so I can get an idea of how much ground we have to make up and I need to figure out for example do we need to put the most effort into pushing our CPU score further or can our GPU carry some weight because if their GP is better than ours I'm gonna have to try and claw back points in the CPU score the CBO score is not worth nearly as much in times pi extreme because it's so GPU bound so that's kind of the thought process I have right now coming into this how much have you earned on super chat so far I have no idea but I do appreciate it from Laura dryer again I think that's is that Norwegian kroner I think that's Norwegian kroner Frank Johanna jónasson Jonason says most time spent I was seen a PC probably i fought pretty hard with some Zeon's because we have a Xeon that's kind of unlocked but not really and it's it's unlocked enough where you can you can get some decent frequency out of it I can't right it's a 12 core leaves a 12 core it's an old 1x 7912 core I spend a lot of time with that probably probably two days playing around with that ultimately to be unhappy with it if you're talking about like single PC that would probably be it so anyone joining in now we're running the first graphics test in our next time spy complete run and that'll tell us where we stand vs. Linus tech tips this is a friendly rivalry with Linus and his team Alex the great ish as he's called on Twitter I believe I ran their tests for their singularity PC build and I think they're at 4.8 gigahertz on the CPU they had a Titan V in there under under liquid and their score is 8000 something 8090 to total 11,000 on the CPU which were passed now and 7700 on the GPU which we are presently behind on so we've done a couple things I'll run everyone through the bench again this is a bunch of you I think I've filtered in but we'll let this finish first next question love your content and dedication and keep it up from agra kami thank you I appreciate it we will definitely keep it up Tom's can you overclocked an H 500 PEP s what cpu is it it's a it's a 79 80 XE can you overclock the H 500 P I mean I guess we kind of did that already when we fixed it by adding mesh to it next question wishbone is there any more front mesh full towers coming out that's a great question what is coming out I know a couple of things coming out and none of them have full front mesh I Silverstone's cut so here's the thing Silverstone has been working on front mesh designs for a while now and I was talking to them about this recently because I at CES and they know this I was a little disappointed with what they showed and it's because a lot of it was following the trend of a flat front panel relatively poor ventilation although better than most of the competitors but not better than Silverstone's previous products and I was disappointed by it and I let them know and basically it was a matter of them saying you know we we need to compete in this industry and this is what people want right now so if you disagree with that sentiment and you want mesh front panel cases find a way to let Silver's don't know because someone needs to tell them like hey the stuff you were doing with cases that have air flow keep doing it we've certainly told them but I'm not buying tens of thousands of units like consumers are so my word only gets so far to answer your question there is one coming out within the next six months but I can't say anything about it right now there'll be more at Computex but I don't know the details on them I only know details on one mesh front panel case right now it's a derivative of something else that exists and will let you know as soon as we can let you know more dude Dunamis says coffee on me $5 from New Zealand I think thank you we'll spend that on fried chicken or something later still running by the way okay here we go CPU test is done so let's see what we did for CPU score in the hash tag rip LTT challenge that's looking better so we started at 7070 our baseline was that's what our baseline was in the urban clocks it's to stop this shake our graphics score here is our weakest point right now CB scores thought eleven thousand six hundred six hundred points ahead we have bit more room in the tank I think graphics were at seven thousand so we need to gain about ten percent in performance which hopefully overclocking can do CPU temperatures are what we're in the 90s so we don't have a ton of head room for further CPU overclocking but I might play around with it I think it's time to get afterburner going and this is where we're gonna have some trouble because this CPU or the GPU rather has had some issues with holding over clocks in this benchmark so what I'm gonna do first and this will be interesting for you all as well I'm applying nothing for frequency on the core what was that result okay everyone remember this number seven thousand ten seven thousand ten is our graphics core all I'm doing is maxing out the power limit hopefully it stays stable it should I've had issues with this card crashing a lot today but I'm hoping to stay stable and what this will tell us is from 7010 baseline what does increase in only the power limit do for us and ignoring the frequency in memory and just letting the GPU regulate itself with more power of revision and while this is running I'll get back to super chat in a minute but I want to walk back over to the bench and for anyone who has tuned in you know in the last since fifteen minutes after we started I'll show you what what's going on here so I think we're going to hand camphor this give us a second it's not enough light ah watch your HDMI cable I think you're good though okay so catch her one up if you already saw this sorry it'll be brief and sorry about the fan noise okay first of all Titan V under an ek Titan V water block they sent us a blue fluid that's actually awesome I appreciate it because it's basically GN blue so there's our pump and reservoir and we're going into a 360 millimeter radiator which is right here it's got a soon on Maglev fan so here's here's some fun trivia if you didn't know this fan this soon on fan and the bottom left here is the basically om version of what becomes these Corsair Maglev fans up here so the the soon on soon on makes course there's my club fans coarser does a couple things too and there's so they do offer value but I get these for about 13 dollars a piece the soon on ones and if you're just doing something like this it's great it's 3500 rpm I haven't turned down to 80% right now this is a Vardar this is a maglev non-pro - maglev is another one in the middle Nach to up here just in case the prm's don't have perfect contact to the cold plate so it's a full coverage block now get back to what I was saying we do have this shunt the shunts shorted right now and I don't think we have a great way to show that unfortunately but basically applied liquid metal to the shunt here the shunt resistor here and then one more that's over here under the water block it's not contacting it it's just under it so we've shorted the three shunts which in the past I think from our old content if I remember correctly we showed about a 3% performance uplift not something I recommend for daily but something that we're gonna need here because I think Linus is Titan V is better than ours so we're gonna try and combat that a bit by uncapping our our power line with some extent we're changing the resistance basically so it doesn't give you really higher frequency doing this what it does is it gives you more stable frequency at the highs so it's not like you offset higher is that your offset holds higher for longer and on that throne will take Flo 360 over here going to the CPU so the sea view of the GBR isolated loops and I chose that one and this one because there 360 I have fast fans and the pumps are fast on both so we can circulate the liquid through and get it cooled down faster which if you're not aware does actually have a significant impact on performance so okay I need to catch up with chat and see what everyone's saying we need to buy soon on fans I don't think I guess you guys can't post links digital keno shorting three of them actually does help we tested that someone say I think you're only supposed to short three - there are four total on the card there are three that we shorted and I tested doing only two before and it didn't work or didn't work as well I don't remember the details but digit key anyway digit keys where I buy this you non-fans okay and also if our audio desync overtime sorry there's nothing I can you can't do much about it okay so yeah we're not connected to internet or anything I'm not submitting scores right now but CPU test is almost done I'll go through a couple more of these micro casting st. Louis says hey thanks for the great content any new info on the CTS labs in situation I published everything I know as of now in yesterday's news video if you haven't seen it I think the first eight minutes are dedicated to that the update is they stopped answering my questions I believe they stopped answering Tom's Hardware and an attack and they never answered any of our questions about financial involvement in the stock market with AMD or about involvement with Viceroy beyond their blanket statement to press saying Viceroy is not our customer that's different from being involved advice right though so they skirted that one that's my latest update which I know is not really that great do you have a heat monitor measure device if you mean like a thermocouple reader yes we use them all the time okay so basically long story short we need to increase the clock big surprise so let's try let's just do like a tea here let's just do 50 here I with fire strike so fine I can times 5 behaves differently we were stable up to I drag this over here we were stable up to 200 megahertz of offset and 200 Hertz offset on the 8 on the HBM and the core and some of our tests during the review time spy doesn't like those settings at all it crash hard crashes so we have to start a lot lower here so let's just apply those and kind of start it slow so that we're not instantly disappointed at the GPUs capabilities and then we'll see if we have to drag more performance out of the CPU graphics for 7008 I think or 6 basically no different so in this instance I don't know maybe the shot mod is playing around with it but in this instance that's that's what we're stuck right now so let's this next one's running graphics test one's going ok anything that's Shanthi confirmed vulnerabilities in a forum post today that's good to know and I never washed into the vulnerabilities this is going back to the CTS Labs thing so CTS Labs we have a big video on it I think it's called like and the assassination attempt you should watch it if you haven't but their vulnerabilities we spoke with expert researchers who discovered meltdown inspector a couple of them and they confirmed with us loosely off record for the most well one mine on record later but mostly off record confirmed with us that they believed the exploits and the vulnerabilities cts labs reported to be of merit and rooted in legitimacy whatever one I spoke to questioned and I'm questioning as well as I get more into it is the the professionalism and the method of presentation of that data it's written in a very aggressive fashion it doesn't have a lot of technical detail in the initial post they later added some very highly aggressive though and Viceroy somehow had a 30-page like tirade like just giant diatribe out within 30 minutes or sort hours anyway of CTS labs report going up and they said Viceroy the president said that someone leaked them the document Viceroy and CTS claim that they're not connected CTS only has a couple of employees Viceroy says someone leaked on the document and they took a sizable short position on AMD so I questioned the motive behind all of it because the tone of publication is so oddly aggressive that it just seems strange to me so that's I think that's my update on the CTS lab situation but moto moto motorsport says 1098-t oh you mean like the Phenom right we I think we test one of those recently we did a revisit thanks for the three bucks man-bat ever considered to run Windows 10 Enterprise LTS B 2016 on the testbench ltsp has no store no edge less Windows 10 background services yeah I mean the maybe for something like I don't know I don't know I honestly don't know anything about it but eliminating background service is great we wouldn't run it on our normal test benches because you have to retain some level of reality with those because we're ultimately reporting on consumer products with those so although we do try to keep a really highly clean environment for testing we also try to establish a barrier where we say okay we're drawing the line here we need to keep some level of consumer relatability with our tests so Windows 10 with all the that's involved with it is where we do that line test is running by the way I think we have like an 80 megahertz overclock I think on the core of the GPU and fifty something 25 and 50 on the HBM thank you Steve for your extensive testing absolutely it's what I'm here for thank you for the $2 Travis peacock says need to use that Dyson in pole to bring down yes we do a push/pull of Dyson we already went over this though it's actually disallowed from the hardware bot scoring system sadly media would have an unfair advantage naturally actually linus would totally kick our asses then because he could just hook up that Dyson to the cpu and I think create creates sub ambient temperatures which should be physically impossible but not with that all right benchmark complete temperatures we've still got now yeah we're hitting like 94 on some of these now so we're at a Headroom so that's because ambient has increased quite a bit there we go now we're getting big jumps okay so let's go over to go over what we have here recap everyone that was within 80 megahertz core 50 megahertz HBM we're at 78 98 right now for the total score graphics 74 77 CPU is still 11600 so to recap Linus is that okay let's get this up all right so we'll recap a few things here and hopefully you can see it okay we're not doing screen captures it's too much to set up all right so this is a Hall of Fame time spike extreme on 3d marks website Hardware bots got a different ranking but same idea they didn't submit theirs to Harvard bot so we're just going off of this so what we have we are presently before I think we just beat that score yeah we just beat our old score but I haven't connected the internet yet so we were presently at 76 88 points total and let me show you the impact of having four memory channels for this test it's pretty crazy previously we're at 74 61 for graphics core we're at 74 77 now and I think part of that is shorting the shunts I didn't do that last time if I remember correctly so we might have some more headroom here still CBS core we're at 9,000 now we're at 11,000 600 so getting into into big increases there and that's largely because two problems one I only have two six in memory last times for a dual Channel two thanks to night-night dark coincidentally had a busted channel on it so I had EVGA replace it because one of the channels was dead anyway previous scores 7688 we're currently at seventy eight ninety eight let's see where that would theoretically put us that would theoretically put us seventy eight ninety eight so we're right at JBN ten ten what was this person's CPU score so this person eleven thousand seven forty six they're a bit ahead of us there I can pass that that's within margin of error next one seventy nine forty four capstat two what's their scoring 11200 we're past that score for CPU but they're they're ahead of us by a hundred points on GPU which is I think weighted heavier for this benchmark eighty twenty four for this person I can't read that and then line us up here at number six eighty ninety two and we want to shoot through the stars I guess we could try and pass deserve here at eighty one thirty eight so what's surf score if we want to get ambitious if you want to get ambitious we passed the CPU score but he's got a way high GPA score we can try it though right so if we pass line if that puts us in six that we pass this person puts us in fifth let's go ahead and do another overclocked run and I may end up trying to push the CPU harder to get a bit of extra Headroom so let's push this up to a hundred and just see if it's stable I've had a lot of instability issues past this point so I'm gonna leave that there for now and again it clocks hire and fire strike but times by extreme really hates GPU clock over clocks or at least mine anyway I had a checked chat and everything okay so can everyone up I think you're all pretty much caught up right now 4.8 gigahertz on the CPU we have a meme going where apparently if you donate the super chat and say what CPU then I look disappointed and say what it is we have 4.8 gigahertz memory we have so we're maximum dry now we have 32 gigabytes in there I want to say yeah 32 it's rated for 3600 I think CL 16 we're at 4,000 we've done some memory timing tuning and also our maximum to something like eight or nine gigabytes which is intentional it helps with stability a bit because otherwise windows can cause some crashes and then the GPU we've pushed a little bit which is underwater I want to read some of these questions Justin Parrish is G on going to review the thermal take view 91 super tower is that I think I know what that is hang on don't take vo 91 oh yeah I think I dunno what this case is no we're not planning on reviewing that case I saw it I saw it at CES a couple problems with that one I don't want it in my house because it's gigantic and also the view 91 it is kind of like the SMA eight which we've also looked into benchmarking for air you start getting as a territory where it's so far outside of what's reasonable for our testbench that it's almost irrelevant like the SMA eight again it's a great example which I think we might try and get and do open loop testing on standardized in which case I would test the view 91 but it's clearly I mean it's that case is too big and it's not at all built for what we test with so probably not if there's enough interest maybe I do know that the view 91 is really is limited volume so I don't think they're making a lot of them Jennifer Roger says for the future snowflake plushies also rip LTT yes that's the hashtag hashtag rip ltte if you wanted join in the fun make sure to tag them on Twitter send them this way as a lot has popped up in chat has anyone seen the Linus tech tips accountant chat still running the next test by the way graphics - I think win not so Steve do you ever look in the mirror and say to yourself damn I'm just too good I think earlier I looked in the mirror and said the opposite of that because we tripped the power trip the breaker which was why we're late to the stream because overclocking so this coarser a X 1600 I it plugs in via USB and it's got what I believe is a fairly accurate power reading through software you can check through the wall obviously your current clamp but that indicated we were doing something like I think we were hitting a thousand watts which isn't crazy but the wall is 15 amp the breaker the circuits 15 amps and we had other stuff going to so yeah no I did not say that moving a frag says running the time spike extreme for the first time on the stock settings right now welcome welcome to the party got only 50 126 for the total score I suppose 47 91 GPU 8500 CPU should I try to overclock I'm sure that's the whole point of it do so within reason the the best way to kill something overclocked in your CPU would be pushing voltages that you don't understand - hi so do research I'll give you some quick pointers I don't did you say what CPU you're on you didn't say what CPU you're on but I'll give I'll give a run some some basics so with AMD be careful of SOC voltage pushing that too high is very bad it'll degrade over time with Intel be careful of SI system agent voltage VC CSA is often what it's called putting that too high is also deadly well yeah any voltage can be deadly I guess you push it high enough but your biggest concern is degradation over time without knowing it because you won't find out for months if you pushed it too high and suddenly what will happen is your clocks won't go as high as they used to or they require more voltage to do so so yeah absolutely overclock it's fun it's cool to learn about the hardware it'll teach you a lot but be willing to invest some time to research just just start with like Google safe voltage for your CPU check multiple sources against each other don't trust one and that'll give you a starting point the safe voltages that are published on forums are often a bit conservative so you should be fine so let's look at our score 79-71 what did I say we're trying to be 80 something was at 80 90 what GPU is it good luck man go for number five it's a Titan V and we will definitely go for number five 80 92 is what we're trying to beat we're at 79-71 versus Linus tech tips 80 92 and they have a 77 100 graphics core we have 75 50 so we're a decent bit ahead 600 points ahead and CPU we need to gain in graphics and CPU I guess to try and make up for it so what kind of room do we have here I think we can do some more CPU tuning got a couple points there we only really need like 40 points which is also close to variance so let's see if it crashes when I push this to like 75 I think it will but we'll give it a shot that's HBM to voltage on the Titan V and you know what we should actually save some time and just run that GPU only because we don't need to do the whole thing if we're just trying to see if the graphics test is stable gpo only okay so let's see how that does we're kind of getting to my limits here on the Titan V I think but I think we can do it we need 40 points just reading so a hashtag rip GN we got this that is not your on the wrong side of history my friend okay see mm-hmm s to s RT Tech Jesus has risen and said heathens that are LTT must be put in their place the tech Messiah has spoken I've scrolled off screen probably for the best your profiles should be Tech Messiah Jeremy Zeta says this is a small view brewery a brewery if you will have some celebratory fried chicken after your victory we will absolutely do that Thank You Xena I approach appreciate it always good to see you in chat now as she's still running any good Netflix recommendations from bill honcho I have no idea I don't watch Netflix uh-huh I like Grant or Amazon or whatever it is it was on Prime Robert male $5 Leone Leo will have an aerodynamic one that's a great question we have already agreed to sampling we're waiting for them to arrive I don't one I don't know if that my head when will get them I don't know if thought my head when they review embargo lifts and I couldn't tell you anyway but we will be reviewing at least one of them somewhat immediately and I'm not positive which is coming out first but I definitely want to look at both because when we saw them at CES I think no they were definitely the my favorite case from CES the Leone Leone Erin dynamic they're good they're good well-designed we'll see how they perform but looks good Zach Fisher is 2164 megahertz on a 1070 good yeah that's very good hydro H 105 good for it you know I don't really remember that H 105 is that the coolant one we're running graphics 2h 105 which cooler is this oh no this is ace attack yeah that's a he's attack for sure I mean it's fine I don't really all the ACE tech coolers at the same size or more or less the same all that's different as the fans if you're replacing them anyway you can kind of buy any of them warranty matters it's a next question Kevin Ashby we're just waiting on this test to finish don't know if it was posted already but Linus had the CPU at 4.8 gigahertz and the GP at 1912 thank you that's very valuable information we're at 4.8 so we've got the CPU and I we're ahead quite a bit so they didn't oh they didn't do any memory tuning I think they were at JEDEC specs and I think they had like 100 gigabytes of memory this benchmark is memory hungry but not that much so I think we're ahead in memory profile tuning all right so reminder we did not run CPU that time we're trying to see if GP is stable and it was 76 78 it's pretty good ok so here we go here's the moment of truth let's let's run this properly the full thing and see if that puts us past Linus and then we'll try and take v after that just because v is a nice psychologically secure number 5 sounds better than 6 then you can say you're in the top 5 without anyone having to know that your 5 flora dryer yes you're right about knock ok cool Mohammed says had to turn on VPN to donate otherwise I get function not available in your area YouTube must be thinking that the donation from Africa has Ebola I appreciate you going through the VPN that certainly helps I didn't know that YouTube had such restrictions that's weird power consumption 2000 watts no the power supply is a 1600 watt power supply it's like what's the max is it titanium these days I think it's 80 plus titanium if I remember correctly the story Corsair told me at CES was that they were actually trying to trying to ask the 80-plus organization to add a new certification for this power supply and the 80-plus group said no but no so we're not a 2,000 watts I check in a bit I don't have a current clamp or anything on any of this but we're doing a thousand watts earlier when I had a lower overclock on it so somewhere around there maybe a bit more okay bazinga axe next one who asks what CP you tell them 386 DX 40 crush Alliance this is war damn right pick a side Martin what's with EVGA showing no love for the classified line my 1080 classified has no full cover water blocks I don't know I wasn't aware of that actually I think we have a 1080 class I think no actually I don't think we do I think we have the FTW so I never got a classified for that one JC keep up the excellent work GN here's some lunch money so you guys don't have to do a Q reviews I appreciate it Dyson did not approach us however we've been approached by companies of similar relevance to our industry and I've said no but the direct donations from viewers and things like patreon do legitimately help as do I'll plug it now while this is running the mod mats so if you don't have one store that gamers Nexus Don that we have one here on demo this is pretty scratched up but it's still really durable this one is our original sample we've improved them a lot since then so we've improved the durability a lot there's a lot of like liquid metal stuff on here I need to wash it but we've improved the durability a ton since then we actually we got rid of the background color for the next round so this dark gray here will be gone it's just gonna be a black color of the mat now which is can I do this safely that's the color it will be which is actually going to be it'll be a bit better it'll it'll reduce the amount of paint it'll help with durability further with it which is something we invested in before the final production run so yeah these are going to be shipping within the next two weeks stored a camera's nexus net you wanna pick one up there anti-static not meant to be mouse pads clearly I'm using them using this as one but it is an anti-static mat first and foremost meant to protect the table and ground you it's made actually in a factory that makes stuff for clean rooms so we were pretty damn serious when we expect it out which is which is why the price is the way it is because low volume plus really high material is a make sure a good product but you know one that we have to do in limited volumes because we're not a giant manufacturer so this test is going I think we're on CPU now like I said please do consider the mod mats because we've got a good amount coming in this time we sold out instantly last time and I think we might again but we'll see should ship last week of March first week of April if you want one and this is seconds away from finishing GPS score was somehow yet so many time that was okay Adams Schnabel $2 thank you say hi to snowflake from me from engineer 6 I will do that however she is banned from this room because I don't want her or her tail anywhere close to the 7 fans we have on bench is that it ash so close eighty thirty-one the score to beat is eighty ninety two so we're trying to be eighty ninety two that's Linus's score we're at 80 thirty one right now wait what happened to our cpu score that drops six hundred points weird that's interesting now what if we throttled or something let's we can recover that for sure that's definitely recoverable because that's the CPU score we lost not the GPU so let me save this one hundred and seventy five or eight got it and let's just double-check everything in BIOS because we just drop six hundred points on the CPU which sounds to me like potentially throttling we might be getting there it's the rooms warmer than it was earlier but I didn't swap a fan if I have to or we give it a break for a minute I think I ran that bench basically immediately after the previous one as well as just probably still warmed up all right so he needs sixty points to beat lioness and crew I might try to see all 15 but I think we're gonna wait on that for a minute what do I have for fan Headroom that's just vrm but let's just go ahead and max that out too okay so I max out the vrm fan just in case we do have things we can do here primarily trying to go down to CL 15 and we can try and push like 2 cores to 49 otherwise I think we're good to get oh really okay so let's let's just try this again and see if it was just a thermal thing because if we can pick up those 600 points and get back throw eyes on the previous run then we'll we'll pass them decrease ambient now we actually should do that can you lock that or you you tether with the headphones if you just drop it one degree on the thermostat okay so Andrews and round the cameras drop in our temperature or our thermostat by one degree so that should help a bit it's actually getting pretty damn warm in here there we go ac is on like like that the air conditioner is part of the war chest for overclocking we're considering going chilled or something but we'll see what if if Linus retaliates I don't know we'll see I don't know that he'll respond he's got bigger fish to fry but I would like to I would like to see them up the ante and the way that only Linus tech tips would do and then we can respond in kind so let's try this see if it's stable and everything let's just let me just double check temperatures make sure we didn't really mess something up thermally okay it's reasonable now it's in the 30s I'd like it to be lower we dropped the thermostat a bit but that'll take a minute to kind of decrease room temperature so we'll let that run and see how that goes i might like open some windows or something if we need to ice water yeah I know we considered it okay let's see builds oh I just telling you to call him okay builds I'll message you on this card I can probably get my laptop or something to do a call I don't think I have it set up here to do that your timing it's okay what can we improve build Zoid from actually hardcore overclocking says your timings they suck all right that's good that's what I want to hear it for him to approve them TR our DS should be for okay we can do that after this run just see what our baseline is see our RDL should be six okay I want to see where this goes first and then I'll take builds edges advice do you have any over Clark tutorials out no I I mean well yeah I think we do have some old ones for GPUs which are a bit simpler I'm not I can give you basics clearly I'm not really qualified to do heavy overclocked tutorials that's build Zoids territory they're Bower people like that damn cop so actually hardcore overclocking and they're Bower are both XOC channels if you want more detailed stuff go check them out they I mean builds what I think just did like an hour long memory video the other day Trent sword dragger Linus getting bin the Titan V he's confirmed his is better than ours I think c-max beast $10 is there a good guide to overclock the 4770k yeah so if you're looking for OC guides overclock dotnet has really good ones I would recommend starting there coolant is already hot does that affect the score now yes yeah well I mean it doesn't affect the score directly but it affects if the if it's an extra I think we had five degrees of headroom previously so if it's an extra five degrees warmer which is completely within reason then yes it's possible we thermal throttle which would explain this huge six hundred point drop off of our clocks which phone who has the highest benchmarks with Andy CP and Vega I'm not sure Hardware bots and three marks hall-of-fame would have that Kennett runs to run SimCity for now no I don't think you can okay what spilled Zoid saying teapot should be 16 that is quite a bit lower we can do that sure okay so we've got some timings to improve after this is done I think we're in the graphics test yeah we're still in graphics test right now so we need to go through CPU testing still which will be next okay couple more comments CJ Hanson says Sierra ray Spalding should buy will Hanks a new graphics card the roomie needs a new GPU and made us can be with you I think I've just just contributed to some roommate subversion Dre G says dust must be a problem if only you had Tyson nori we're a snowflake PS shout outs to Zeta snowflake is as I said banished from this room so she doesn't jump on the bench bill want a low what CPU well bill let me tell you about the 486 processor it's a 79 80 XE Russian name I'm sorry I don't know how to say that does coursers are 275 top mesh filter match the dimensions of the 270 I'm not sure yeah - somebody doesn't have a dust filter right that was a downside it's very similar to land if not identical so I think if it doesn't fit it could probably be made to fit maybe try try email of course there's our made department tell them you have a 270 and you want to buy the 275 ours dust filter see what they say maybe they'll ship one to you for free or something Torben Hanson $5 thank you almost at the end of the CPU tasks guys and we'll see that our score is Wyatt what's the GPU Titan V Gabriel Langevin show us around hope more merch is coming soon yeah so like I said mod mats are the big thing for us we do have more stuff coming eventually it just takes a while to do all the all the go-betweens of the factories and stuff - oh there we go okay what was theirs 80 90 something 80 90 tear that's like that's just margin of error at that point Dan okay okay let's I mean we're gonna I think we could pass it I just sat your and ran it over and over again but let's do builds wide suggestions let's make a little faster was I saying yeah we have more stuff coming my job is media production but I am trying to do more work on custom products we're trying to really take the the GN quality brand and apply it to stuff that you can use for system building so we're making more stuff the mod mats the big thing for us right now I'd like to see those continued to sell through because it's a major investment for us we're not a manufacturing company but we're learning a lot doing better each run I'm very happy with the progress Tifa what did you say 16 or something okay build Zoid from actually hard core overclocking is helping me right now we've gotten to that point so Tifa 16 rrd s4 okay rrdl six think we're already there yeah we're already there on that one I got that one right 101 be CLK might be viable he yes maybe it will try that last TRC should be tear ass plus TRP tear ass could probably do 26 okay tear ass wait 1 2 26 ok and what was the other thing here tear ass plus TRP should be TRC yeah TRC we're on auto right now do we want to stay on auto mr. build Zoid or do i manually type something in how about the rest of this stuff anything here okay so why don't one BC okay we might try me let's let's try it let's just save this as a profile Steve easy one okay let's try 101 BC okay I might fail it does that's fine we'll bump it back down okay that might need to go up we'll see TRC 242 okay let's do that as well I guess hmm if it boots we'll see you at boots first okay that's promising so we are booting I'm gonna do one more change for filled Zoids notes I think we were at 80 something Haiti 86 something like that we're trying to be 80 92 that is within margin of error as I said I could sit there and keep running it over and over till it passes them or we do something a bit more secure and apply some better clocks and or timings in this case and make it a bit harder for everyone okay what was the suggestion here TRC 242 okay so let's do that so build Zoid if you're listening do you have any commentary you want to add that I can read for everyone on what the timings you just had me tune do like t fob we can talk about that one you mentioned t follow me before give me a run-through of that and chat or something I'll read it out okay so booting looks like it might be stable for a boot at least we'll see if its tail for a benchmark ebf ever thought of running cold to tap water from the faucet into a loop for consistent cooling i've thought about doing i mean before this we think about doing dry ice basically in a bucket with an antifreeze I think Titan V's encounter a called bug at negative 10 so we'd be okay up until that point and considered it but we got to leave something on the tank please pass thank you all right so that's running with the new timings we'll see if it's stable this is maximum that eight gigabyte 8.9 gigabytes something like that - white tends to eat a lot of memories that's the best we can do with maximum we have a light overclock on the video card it's a Titan V I think we're 100 megahertz poor 75 HBM I say light it's light compared to some of our no it's actually pretty good cuz times by enumerates the clock a bit differently than some of our other tests we've shown let's see who else catching up on the super chat stuff Adam Schnabel says lose the TT Mouse oh is it the TT one yeah I don't like that Mouse actually I'm only using it because I only have to click on like three things before I have to stop touching it here's a small donation to the G on more stable table fund yeah I mean we've talked about that this is an adjustable height table so that's where most our problems come from I did tighten the legs today though okay yeah it's still scrolling up still catching up okay go for number five yes we're doing that one point four is one point four vcore on 1800 x too much for 24/7 at four gigahertz can you bring it down a bit uh that's I think it correct me if I'm wrong where's builds I that there is correct me if I'm wrong I think one point four is okay but I haven't read up on or even looked at the 1800 extra rise in CPS for a while we're focusing on new CP is right now so it has to refresh my own memory and look at our own reviews put rip LTT in the description when you submit i can do that that's from Alexander Kiley user I really like the idea of standardized custom loop testing different cases please follow through I'm not promising it I do want to do standardized custom loop component tests I don't know if I'll do it with complete cases like we do with air coin that's a lot of work it's a lot of overhead and I'm not afraid of doing a lot of work but it's enough work where we probably lose money until our our kind of like baseline views increases so we might go that direction first what will probably happen is standardized open-loop component testing like blocks because that's easier to do and I can I can do that on my own but for the most part waffle fur ever consider using a fat alpha cool monsta or the super fat phobia extreme radiator for these someone pointed me towards some fat radiators earlier so i would say yes in the last couple hours i have what was your first computer is a pentium for hyper-threaded cpu i don't remember the name of it with whatever GPU is out of the time 512 megabyte X 800 or X 1800 or something like that whichever one came out in the early 2000s I know there's another one later do you like memes apparently we like creating them like Pia what CPU meme okay superhero there's no proper overclocking guide there trust me got the 8700 K no clue what's safe overwhelming bios options yeah you kind of have to look per board basically overclocked on that does have great guides the dan I think we're unstable on this one builds ID so those timings might not be stable or the 101 be CLK I can try boost voltage I guess maybe try voltage we've seen okay so this is gonna let's restart this and do a 1.36 voltage otherwise I'll drop B CLK down and then we should still beat them anyway but I'd like to beat them in a more significant fashion it's more fun super-close 8080 something we're trying to be 1892 I think it's very close come on unlock let's try one point three six five I don't know what kind of temperature we're probably probably pushing our limits here with with thermals in this room remind me close these windows later okay outside is significantly cooler I'm opening windows so that we drop the room temperature it'll help it definitely need to close that later okay that will help a bit damn that already drop temperature over there okay so couple more points to gain back anyone who's curious so we did some tuning of timings with builds right earlier and I asked him what do we need to know about T Fogg TF aw which is one of the time and she had us change and he just gave me an answer so that answer says Tifa equals four active window this is the time this is the time window in which four activates are allowed the same rank TR Rd another one we modified specifies the length of an activate so for T fo equals TR RDS times four for max performance so that's how we came to those numbers and I'll plug them again actually hardcore overclocking if you want to check them out build Zoid does some contract work with us on PCB analysis and stuff like that alright so scored a beat again 80 92 if we want to go for five it's 81 38 we're not gonna get past that I don't think without better cooling or a better card so this this one I should have really just run the CPU tests even stable I guess but might as well let it go at this point this one will determine if we need to drop that BC okay or pump the voltage a bit spin out if we're at our limits or not and let me check chat the last bench I actually finished I restarted it it froze I don't think it did can't you just use it air conditioning yeah yeah we're using using like global air right now open the windows helping a lot actually at least with how I feel in this room I don't know how about the system superhero kife says there's no I got that one sneaky board this would be a great time to talk about how good that pixie or monitor is PS wins that fan tunnel video coming weird I missed posting I hate this monitor and I've been looking more to the fan stuff we have equations for calculating CFM now so basically where I need to be I need to establish a standardized bench for the host platform I need to figure out how far we're going with thermal testing on it because that adds a million variables I was considering building a custom thermal test rig which would take time but we have the equations sorted for CF family calculations based on LPM so we're getting there next one the army won 2-6 why don't you and could you start reviewing fan tax cases I love them and they are super good I don't know they can email me I guess we tried to meet up with them at one of the events recently but they didn't have time in their median schedule for us so they don't sample us I'm not aware of what their new products are because they don't keep me in the loop so by the time I hear about it's normally old news the last one we looked at wasn't a great case though that's not to say they don't make great cases but I wouldn't apply a blanket statement to any company if they make good stuff I would say this particular stuff is good buy them for any company not just fan thanks all right so we're just trying to see if this is stable on CPU which is about to run we'll find out in a few seconds probably and then we shall know if we need to drop down that VC okay trying to catch up on super chat okay so Zara says it go Steve destroy a lioness hashtag rip LTT well to get this table first so I think we're gonna drop that B CLK back down to a hundred and that should be sufficient within margin of error of running the test I might be able to push the GPU clock a couple more megahertz which should secure us the last couple of points we need just need to get into BIOS okay so we're gonna drop BC okay to 100 from 101 and then we're gonna drop this 1.36 for V Corps I'm gonna save that yeah builds ID says drop BC okay I think that'll be sufficient to at least get the score we want store miss says here's a small donation to the GN yeah he got that one horse table for table fund rib hashtag Clint says hashtag rip LT t succeed and I'll sign up for patreon well now we have motive didn't have any before Anthony not much but a thank you love your stuff Thank You Anthony monkey chips you got this hashtag rip LT t yeah here's to lose the TT mouse one saw that okay it's booting center- do you core temps of sixty degrees Celsius plus on a closed-loop liquid cooler automatically mean permeation will occur because the water block is just millimeters from the twos so the liquid temperature sensors are within the water block and we have some videos of tear downs so they are their innate Sutekh coolers they're basically just above the cold plate and the chamber that liquid goes through through the cold plate micro fins there above that chamber I think on the intake so that warmest water coming in and at sixty degrees Celsius you are facing permeation danger but it's not like hitting 60 C will instantly jeopardize your loop if it's 60 C for a prolonged period than yes if if you're just kind of using your system you're gaming for an hour and at the end of it you're like oh man my liquid temperatures we're 65 you're probably completely fine you might have a minor amount of permeation but we're talking more one that's a somewhat conservative number that ace that gives to you need to be running out sixty c-plus for a while to have a meaningful amount of permeation obviously you keep it lower than that sixty degrees I'm like with temperatures actually is pretty damn high so to get there to begin with indicates a problem elsewhere like the fan speed or something what would happen to a GPS CPU Ram with an OC that is stable but no voltage has been added approximately speaking with degradation be sped up how much if any would lifespan be affected no voltage has been added so so a higher higher frequency is what I think you're saying but not a higher voltage voltages are what kill parts or degrade them if you're just running the highest frequency that your stock will just can handle you're probably fine but there are motherboards that will be overzealous on how much voltage they apply we've talked about them before gigabyte had one and they fixed it thankfully it's not a deadly voltage but auto voltage sometimes will allow you to sustain higher clocks then perhaps Auto voltage should because they're aggressive on it and the voltage tables are aggressive and the LLC tables are aggressive and things like that but if you're not increasing your voltage you should be fine within reason Christopher gave 25 PHP that Philips Philippines or something thank you appreciate it Troy Leonard ltte is crying in Canada smoke him like smoke um like I my board Travis mounted block to stabilize the vrm on overclocked more think of erm is fine it's under the EVGA yeah that VR I'm definitely fine the heatpipes not even hot to the touch no that's fine it's it's under like the maxed out dark EVGA dark motherboard fans so and we've done thermal testing on that it's it's well within spec so we actually don't it yeah we don't really need it I claim the CPUs horizon 3 caddy ray heart awesome OC for a 486 what GPU GeForce 256 oh it's the it's the original IGP that's what we're doing Dan cop may stop with overclocking completely he posted something like this on his Facebook page I did not see that Bjorn sent the super chat that noted that I didn't I was not aware of that see ya so we're just waiting for this to finish I really should have run CPU only test but we'll do that next time if it crashes have you considered testing SSDs yes we've sort of done as st tested for the longest time I was trying to build a really solid SSD test bench but it's it's really difficult to test them properly and I was never quite happy with our test suite for it even talking with manufacturers I just never was happy with it so we basically said we've got a limited amount of resources being mostly time but also money but mostly time and after investigating it heavily for on and off for two years talking to people at every trade show about SSD testing basically said you know what we don't need to do this we'll focus our efforts on GPU CPU cooling stuff that I know I'm not afraid to try and become competent in SSD testing but it's pretty complex to do it properly and I know enough to say that I don't know enough to review SSDs right now I would refer you to alan melvin tano as SSD reviews his are some of the best I've seen he writes for PC per so that's that's where I would go for it but I I have no intention of competing in that market right now we have things we do more competently than that aisa snoozy to sunny board okay where did I park my renault clio on 25 I have no idea I don't know where you parked I'm like Microsoft god dammit he's serious eighty ninety one score to be eighty ninety two okay so we're within margin of error this benchmark didn't take so long to finish it wouldn't be as bad eighty ninety one man okay yeah video scheduler all right so it doesn't like starting that test right away you did more of a need or more of a break to calm down chats blowing up - have the Canadian winter for advantage temperatures Tommy Crosby says absolutely I don't know how cool that warehouse is but if you run it out in the snow you'd have an advantage it's sort of exotic cooling 1890 we're one point away 63c rip LDT Lowell xddddd mate you got this ciub lat thank you disturbed it medic says hey Steve early celebratory gifts for beating minus one point away but thank you anyway we'll get their shots go in so many FS and cherry now ffffff can't can't can't script it better than that though oh and you just pointed out a hundred dollar donation there's a lot I'll read it in a second thank you though in advance hand me that hair dos try to gauge another 40 points yeah basically spray it into the rads at this point but turning off the monitor can prove the sport now I don't think so that was from Kwik shop previous one was from motors motor motor sport Alexi says say I want to put four of those crazy Titans in a loop with ek WB 560 rads is that a reasonable idea what are you doing I guess that's the question if you're doing some kind of computer or deep learning thing that doesn't need to bridge them with envy length and I guess the hell better be making money off of it if you're spending that kind of money that is 12 grand on Titan V's the guy who B says can we see somewhere out of the box than all this think you're seeing it right now bill on cello something in Russian moneybags hey love your content I've gotten 8700 K at five point three gigahertz one point four three volts is that voltage fine that's a great frequency coins fine don't want the voltage to degrade it too quickly you're okay if you can bring it down great but I think you're okay I don't know how that is for daily we use voltages similar to that check your LC make sure the LSE is not blowing it up or pushing it past what you think it is because that matters what do you think about Peltier tech cooling from Hayden we tried testing a phase change cooler at some point phonon ik or something I think what's the name of it it did not perform well it was like a 92 millimeter cooler and it performed like other 92 millimeter coolers so we tried it but I would need something better than that let's see hundred dollars what was your message why can't I see it okay we'll get there I guess Oh someone didn't say the last test did not crash it went three zoltes just as you hit the reset button for the previous one I guess oops Andrew crew is always prefer out of the house terminal Z that's what we're using right now that the windows open Dreier spider dreary or spider says have you considered test I got that one SSDs rave $5 you can find autosave - 3d mark results in Documents folder might want to check to see where that last round really completed ok mine yeah well if this one's better than who cares well they also measure static pressure this is relating to the phantasm we have ways to sort of show that but I'll talk about that more when it's time we're gonna be testing against various radiators and filters jonathan Brumfield what is your thoughts on the thermal take water 3.0 performer a iOS I'm not familiar with them well you have a big water I don't think we have the one you're referring to so yeah sorry I don't know Samuel Kaufman mod map backward hashtag riff ldt thank you for back ordina hey mod matt that store that gamers next has done that certainly appreciate it it helps a lot kayo says a great video hashtag rip LT TPS these are Brazilian rays don't check the exchange rate ok I got 5 of those I don't know if the exchange rate is mmm way hundred dollars no message well thank you Emily we that's that's extremely generous of you and it's absolutely appreciated hopefully hopefully this bench heard all of those super chats and we'll put on a show because if it doesn't it's going out the window gear seekers anyone else noticed Steve has a legs from the H 500 P video yeah I guess that's probably one of the fewer you see below the table okay bazinga axe can you recommend a good barber no wow how did you ask I'm busted hashtag get the water bucket okay how are we doing here a couple seconds I think it needs to be 892 or better it needs to be better than 89 it needs to be 89 you through here better there's 80 90 one last time everyone hold your breath come on what is it there we go boom okay within margin of error beaten Linus tech tips there at 80 92 right 80 99 I might try and push that a bit harder but just just to solidify it for now until they go crazy but I would like to at least solidify that so cool yeah 80 99 let's go over the numbers here seven six seven six on the graphics score 11 7 8 5 on the CPU score and anything else we need to note here well yeah 80 99 here so let's validate if it will let me I definitely need to take screenshots for Hardware BOTS there we go valid score that's what I want to see okay how quickly does this website update times by extreme one graphics card the update already know either way we're in here between them 80 99 I'm gonna take a screenshot for Hardware bot as well and that's gonna require opening a bunch of stuff and then then we'll go for the next score chat let's see a chat saying hashtag rip LTT going crazy everyone tweet at Linus tech I think it is and and - geez Sebastian tweet up those accounts hashtag rip LTT something else on our rekt or something okay see tell him to respond tell him come at me I'd love to see them respond in the way only Linus and team could and then we'll return fire and keep the friendly media battle going give me a second to open all this stuff and I I'm gonna go for five well push for a little longer go for five we're not too far and see how that goes otherwise we'd always come back and do another stream and push for five need mainboard speed memory CPU mainboard this is all the stuff for her turbot she Jersey okay this thing down here somewhere this year all right I think that's everything all right cool okay so I'm gonna push that GPU clock I we haven't had a crash yet right no we had a crash launch from GPU let's push it a little higher and see what it does especially now that room temperature is a bit lower so let's go I don't know what the increments are on this thing what was it 75 it's only like 25 megahertz increments but let's see if light 115 does it for us how about this what's the minimum increment on this I think that's 25 also but we'll see no that worked okay so 85 115 let's see if that crash is instantly or not and disconnect this sighs now believe it connected okay Ron okay let's see we get five have you done the Shaun mod yet yes it is on there presently as already on there okay so we're going for five now I thought it just crashed hunt for five I don't know if we'll get it I'm happy with six be happier with five okay Zynga and I got that one get the water bucket got that one Philip see 1600 X at 3.8 gigahertz one point two six three volts a be 350 an h-60 a IO hitting 70 to C and pub G thoughts on those temps is that TDI or is that T control Verizon there's two temperature numbers there's T dying there's T control C control has a temperature offset it will artificially increase the number that's reported to you TDI is the one that you want that's more or less the real temperature and see my phone's getting blown up that's that's the temperature you want to look for Evie J's YouTube channel apparently popped into the chat earlier Patrick says was moderating team EVGA posted in chat hashtag lnto if you're still there jacob king pin 10 any of you i invite you to visit us BYO ln2 and we'll do it nah not really sure the parameters are for getting that through TSA but I'll bail you out seriously they'll bring it with you do something or or I'll get some in and you guys come out we'll do it alright other messages they launched our congrats GN team had fun watching the stream thank you very much took us a while but we got there waffle Ferg did LT t got that score when he took a wall ACN and shoved it in a cooler it helped lots of congratulations messages Lord dryer ed Novak 20 bucks thank you very much Adam says should someone do a claymation someone should do a claymation Celebrity Deathmatch a la MTV with Steve and - congrats on the win MXC a 909 we're still stable over here cool said great work Thank You Troy Leonard winner winner chicken dinner great job Steve have a nice cold beer hashtag rip LTTE okay so if we're trying to go over five and I think we're gonna stop there 80 138 is a score to beat let me check what their CPU scores are on things like that that is by deserve he's submitted from the US there see twerp we're way past their cpu score there are ten seven four six so we're good there their GPA score is 7800 quite a bit higher we'll see how this does maybe Daniel Napolitano says did you take the sticker off the CP no it's had a reference to the one didn't did - leave the sticker on the cold plate I think he did someone did knew it wasn't him oh is junior right let's J we did take the sticker off rip LT t here's some south of Vitoria tacos okay so so uh from the donations tonight after this coffee tacos fried chicken x - there's something else - beer okay thank you thank you for for dinner I guess we'll Linus drop the gauntlet like he does hardware oho how does it good one well served I hope so probably okay kind of holding my breath on this and we'll see how close we get to number five that's the number we're going for now Christopher Donald 10 bucks thank you very much for the super chat donation Christopher can you please talk about thermal results Fuji poly pads on the vrm alone who's been asking you yeah we're working on it I actually bought a ton of thermal pads we'll get there Dane that was a big jump I wasn't even trying to sandbag what is that 81 38 what we were trying to beat we just did 82 15 by accident okay cool so we're number five now why are they saying 3dmark crashed now I've made it I think I made it though 3dmark sites down is it really I think it is down hopefully we can still validate how that happened okay well anyway we're certainly not driving well maybe we are I don't know I I wouldn't think we're driving enough traffic to do that but maybe we are okay so anyway let's show that let's show the screen because those sites down sorry so hopefully you guys can see this okay I think their sites down is still spinning for me so this is not updated we were eleventh when we started today at 76 88 and then we placed a score of 80 91 which put us here - was 80 92 with the help of build Zoid and also margin of error we ended up at 80 99 which would put us in here not updated yet serve is number five 81 38 we beat serves CBO score but at the time not the GPU score and now I think we're very close to the GB score I don't think we're ahead of it we're at 7800 GPU 11 769 CPU so we passed this we're at 82 15 which it's pretty close to 4 let's see what forest results are that was the site back up I just realized I guess the site's back up ok cool so ok scores I don't even know what I'm doing anymore 77 91 12 5 8 9 so they've it was this even this person has a lot on us and CP score gunslinger but what was the GPU score 77 91 maybe we can make it up in GPU we haven't found the limit yet so 8215 let's try and validate this online come on in a validate yes okay we validated excuse me for a moment while I open up a thousand cpu-z tabs for hardware bots and then we're gonna try and begun Slater who is number four and presently has 82 63 we're at 82 15 I don't know how much Headroom we have left okay I'm just opening a ton of these for for Hardware bot where we'll submit our scores and then we're also validated on 3d marks website where Linus validated what I'd love to see is is some more media getting into this because a lot of fun and I think media presence in the OC space would do a lot of good for the overclocking scene and it's good for viewers so I'd love to see more of that but okay let's get our screen shot okay it says invalid sport it not work compare results online why does it say invalid score sport is not bad Oh results is already present okay can't upload it twice so it is about it just says we can't upload it twice so we're good there okay let's see if we have anything left in this GPU before it starts crashing driver crashing and blue screen 125 I don't know if 90 will even apply or if that's too small of an increment 931 did not apply let's just leave it there and see what that does well you know what now it's let's save everyone some time let's try a hundred I think we're gonna crash we'll try a hundred there I'm pretty sure we'll crash here and 125 on the core okay see if it crashes instantly or not I mean chat back up so we're going for number five at this or no number four we took five took five I don't think the site's updated yet but we should have five okay wobble wobble yes sorry all right mr. Giggs have you used a fractal node 804 case thoughts I have not I have not used it we are doing some mini ITX stuff though I think most of it just came in hasn't crashed yet we'll see graphics - isn't only where it fails for me which is gonna be the next one hashtag Steve 2020 yeah $2 thank you David Wooten $2 much appreciated I have a lot to catch up on here thank you for the super chats everyone lured dryer at hardware unboxed nice to see you in here welcome hardware unbox Steve Gargoyle names a Lexington my mom likes your hair appreciate it Philip see two British pounds 72 degrees Celsius and a vrm hit 76 due to the mini RB 0 1 e if you're in if this is related to the question how thermals earlier rvz 0 1 e is that that's the small case if you're at 72 and 76 I'd be pretty happy with that assuming assuming your questions when I was talking about earlier that was asking about over thermals for an overclock because that's a tiny case if I remember correctly two dollars Mohamed probably the only viewer from Algeria a hashtag Gianna multinational you might be and we appreciate your presence it looks like this will not pass so we can bring down HBM and see if the Corps will hold I'm not positive which one caused the crash but I do want to go for four while we're so close we're stable at 80 just put that at 80 leave the core at 125 see if that works okay it's still cooling down the coolant is getting warm now so we'll see we'll see how it does every couple degrees if you're not familiar with alte every couple degrees matters it's like five degree increments you've gained or these clocks towards the bottom end of the scale you're talking like 12 megahertz at a time but 84 degrees is a big thermal hit that drops your clocks heavily 60 degrees is a big barrier that also impacts your clocks heavily if you get down to like 59 and below your boosted over if you're at 60 and above it's how boost 3.0 works and it keeps going down pretty far I think it might be as low as 13 12 or 13 degrees something like that Brent Lewis well done $20 thank you Brent's appreciate it Peter Eyre can you show the autographed Gian Matt might pick one up we can get a photo of one I I need them to come in the new round to come in we did some last time I need the next round to come in to sign them though but we have a to a photo okay so too much too much for it so 1:15 we were stable I don't know we might let's let's go back to 1:15 and let's go up to a hundred and see if that's stable maybe it's the clot the core that's tripping us and if not we can try some stuff with the CPU and then we'll call it quits if that doesn't work I'm still plenty happy with slot number five for now you put liquid in the fridge and pour it in we could have condensation issues not only a king Bennett flew out for Jays video would be awesome for Ilya to do the same for you Ilya I believe they're referring to 10 as he's known he is uh he's one of the engineers at EVGA he works in I think the same lab as kingpin we've been in that lab it's really cool fun trivia or fun fact I guess the lab kingpin works out of it has so it's got the huge L&T tanks as you'd expect has also got kind of a loop hooked up so basically the if I remember correctly the L&T comes straight out of the tank goes to the component and it's not really like an open loop or a closed loop cooler it looks like one though so it visually it looks like closed loop liquid nitrogen cooler it's really damn cool they have a they have a good test setup as you'd expect but I will be out there again when we're in Taiwan for Computex later this year mmm end of May June I think first week of June we'll be there probably visit EVGA okay Justin Parrish phase-change refrigeration and ln2 from Linus you he'll see that be what I'd expect from Bill and Chavo do you read any books I've read Stephen Kane not in a long time most recently basically GPU architecture book Gonzo's twin here's $10 here's some batter and blood for the celebratory breakfast tomorrow have some pancakes and the blood of your enemies aka maple syrup on me thank you this is maple syrup a euphemism for Linus here because he's Canadian their total wind up $2 thoughts on NVIDIA GTX GTX what at RT x GD x what is DG o DG X maybe DG x the research thing I don't have many thoughts on its way out of my coverage spectrum I'm not really qualified to talk about it if I remember correctly it's just a big like cloud computing box of some kind no thoughts at all on that sorry build Zoids messaging me gunslinger okay guns then just score Oh hardware bar there you go okay it's thoughts on that changes asking builds oh he ran on Ellen - apparently so that's part of why he's destroying our score in the CPU Department looks like it's passing hbm's higher this time hopefully that actually matters with this benchmark I don't remember anymore mattered with fire strike char comes and Friends five dollars well done sir Steve thank you char guns think char comes has a stream coming up on like the 24th there's something we've retweeted a few times I gave him a couple of like GN basically shirts swag stuff to give away on a stream I think that's on the 24th search for shark comes on Twitter if you want to win one of the G on things I gave them Brandon have you seen the ghost s one modular MITx case I have not let's lift it up ghost s one modular MITx case sepia is running so we made it past the hard part ghost s one that looks very compact that's crazy we I don't know I can try and get in touch with them it's like barely taller than a red ball can apparently based on their photos Justin Murphy spray it with coolers and duster turned upside down no I'm not gonna do that thermals are not limiting us right now skills limiting us and so is the GPU skills limiting us on the CPU and the memory but I've got builds way to helping a bit at this point okay what is it I don't have the server to the left dan80 222 all that for like eight points seven points 82 twenty-two is pretty good so gunslingers got us beat right now builds orde says I think he's doing some calculations in order to beat gunslinger and take forth we would need a 7850 GPU score where 50 points away from that and an eleven thousand eight hundred cpu score that's what we would need so we're 44 points away on the GPU and we're 26 points away on the CPU or not nothing not even 16 16 points away on the CPU so I don't know we'd try and push 49 let's do that I guess before we give up let's push 249 on the on two cores see what that does for us and then we can try a little bit more on the GPU my restart button has broken thank you windows as a used command prompt to shutdown all right I think we're plugging in a battery on the camera too not too much longer on this guy's but I do want to see if we can get to that that last slot the could oxygen to OC Zack B thank you for the $2 Oh Tom Bowens 94 did I miss it no okay how does the mat handle snags like cat claws she hasn't so flake hasn't tried to scratch it up surprisingly cats destroyed friggin everything they touched though so I'm not gonna guarantee my mat against it against cats it's a losing battle it holds up very well to screwdrivers that's part of what we invested our newer development efforts on was making sure you can hold the scratches durability is much better than on our original sample which is the one that I have but not the one that shipping so original sample was very vibrant but not very durable we've improved the durability a lot and for this next run we're working on improving the vibrance as well which we've done some tricks like changing the background to black which increased brings out the contrast a bit following feedback from some of the early adopters thank you to those of you who provided that and yeah so it holds up very well now and the actually always for retail samples and the contrast should be better for the next round which is great we're pretty happy with it already but working on improving it as we go because this is our first real product ok 3d mark and if you're curious about it I'll state against where that game is Nexus dotnet the mod mat is what I was just talking about okay so I pushed 449 on to of course we're just gonna run the CPU test and see if it crashes and we're at 100 here we're at 115 here we might be able do 125 on the HBM see if it crashes and see if it overheats just CPU so we're going for numbers for we already passed - if you're just getting here or have you forgotten and he was at 80 92 we passed that we're at like 80 82 1580 222 something like that and now we're going for 82/63 which is gunslingers score so that is a that's the score to be 82/63 according to build Lloyd's calculations from actually hardcore overclocking we need a 7850 GPS score in 11800 cpu score and he's reminding me that GPA score is way way more important than CPU four times by extreme so that's where we really need to make up ground if we're gonna actually get there without chilling it or something I don't know we're kind of the max but let's just see if we can pull something out of the CPU for for that 7800 that we need we're at 49 on to around 4 of the cores I think four yeah something like that okay chat what's chats and Bill and Charla two dollars we're building something great yes we are times by scores Trey Coleman the msi a B unlock a voltage slider to gain access to higher clock speed bins you can utilize it due to the card being shunt modded I mean I'll try it the in my experience the voltage slider doesn't actually do anything but I'll certainly give it a shot so that wasn't stable let's fix that first I'll give you your suggestion a shot but the voltage slider itself is really just like a placebo but maybe I think you're talking about different bins those that might be different so we need to drop those clocks back down a bit okay let's go 48 48 leave those alone so it was semi stable wishbone $2 a c.strick sandy free sink two monitors out yet I actually don't know I haven't heard of free sink to very much since CES 2017 I think gage Lindell says get number four and I'll PI Ahmad Matt that's right swing life away rise against reference says will multi diet GPUs comes a pro soon professional or a consumer first I don't know Navi is doing it soon so I have I'm not sure genuinely I would assume professional use but I would think some kind of like now the V 100 example if you die yeah I don't know my money would be on Navi being one of the first to market but we'll see what NVIDIA has up and sleep okay so first let's do a validation of if if the previous if the new settings are stable for 49 for the first two cores and then I'm gonna save this profile this time okay you know we're gonna do the I will do that next we'll do that voltage unlock the next see if that bin is actually gonna help her if it's it matters at all I think we're pretty close to our limits here though 82/63 guns later a real Eric Locker in this class unlike Linus and myself so we're up against heavy weights now I think he was Alan to you on a sunday 980 oxy and had it over five gigahertz all right so we have Bob this area $1 thank you Bob okay bill on cello $2 just join the stream what cpu are you running you know bill when you use the same username to post that question about five times we catch on was it not stable thank 79 it's a 79 80 XE I actually haven't managed to change it via quantum teleportation trying to drop that back down push GPU up a bit see hey Moll Patel he novotel 20 bucks hey Steve you emailed me when I drunk bought 2 mod mats by accident use this money to buy some ice and chill those rads you got this thank you yeah I saw the second order come in shortly after the first order and we ended up changing it to just one Matt because apparently drunk purchased the second one I caught it and was like that's a different behavior but we do appreciate the $20 okay alright I think we're getting towards the last try here just gonna push that GPU see what it does Schuyler Wallis $5 speaking of rise against what music do you listen to you rise against Bad Religion Parkway Drive Trivium what else what other what other metal stuff there's so much made an occasionally protest the hero is really good it's a couple of BT Bam's pretty good o paths good would be most of it I guess rise against as well some rap depending on how hard I'm trying to destroy Linus's score in 3d mark alright afterburner Hilltop Hoods are good let's not so good POC okay so what was that setting we were looking for I'm dragging this over here so I can see it it's the unlock voltage doesn't do anything what will do it anyway I mean it might it might do been stuff but the actual slider is basically placebo okay let's just try 125 here one more time I don't think we're gonna get this one but I'll do separately after the stream if I submit a bunch of scores for fire strike and stuff to you on the stale settings we have Alexander Stiles $5 you should check out the deer hunters act 4 and Coheed zakat Apollo vol 1 if you have and I actually haven't heard them already I will do that someone else just told me to check out tooth grinder earlier CJ Hansen hashtag give it all and yes that is a reference yes that is great reverence that's the first rise against song I heard lure dryer I'm glad you don't play metal on here not my music Chandra ok thank you for the 50 Norwegian planet vampire calm why does Steve it use Pantheon and when he already has such finesse that the puns the puns is it going to be stable I think crash on graphics to last time food after this yes we can go to the only place that's open how about industrial kfdm skinny puppy front line assembly actually don't not because I don't like it just cuz I don't really venture over there hey if I used to listen to like every day I still like a if I have seen them live a lot and rise against I've seen live a lot Linkin Park I saw I have a couple times if I there what the hell is their album and shoot I forget what it is they kind of want industrial on one of their reason not they're not the blood album but the one before that burials yeah they kind of want industrial a little bit but no not really to answer your question okay did crash I think it crashed same spot alright I think that's probably all we're gonna push it for now so well do next is you know while we're I guess this won't take long we'll just run the stable settings we have hopefully still stable I don't know hopefully it stable I guess it's a bit different with fire strike isn't it but let's just do a time spy run submit that non-extreme and we'll do fire strikes with that fire strike extreme and maybe I'll tune them off-camera later but I think that'll get us some scores on database for now go on cello $2 buy some McDonald's with this huge donation thank you well so now this is this recap let's recap the stream donations which we very much appreciate how long we've been streaming do you know three hours or something it's 1006 now two and a half hours either way something like two and a half hours over that period we've gotten donations for fried chicken for coffee for beer for McDonald's hahahaha Hey tacos thank you that I really appreciate it lower dryer I think this will be my last one think you can look think you can try to look up how much you've made in total on the stream before ending PSP the work that I don't know that I get to see that until the stream ends yeah I'm not sure I don't see anything on here it's it's I mean it's decent amount like it definitely here's the thing streaming's big toss up because if if you don't get the views and the either indirect revenue which would be things like merge sales or direct revenue which would be things like super chat what you're doing they don't tend this one notwithstanding don't tend to get as many views as the normal videos so ad revenue is gonna be lower placed ads will be will serve fewer views so to really make it work we need to get something out of the stream from a brand perspective so like establishing that hey that you can come here and see a different kind of stream do some overclock and stuff like that and also bring in hopefully some additional revenue through things like patreon store super chat I don't know what we've gotten but it's it looks like it's it's made up for the fact that streaming is expensive in terms of what we could do instead not expensive in terms of equipment because it's mostly the same equipment the setup expense is a couple hours not too bad well this one took a bit more but the the fact that over the course of a stream plus setup we could film one or two other videos that's where you factor in the the business side of things so yeah it helps appreciate it absolutely appreciate you especially lower drier the whole time looks like it's going through so that's time spy not extreme I don't know we might be able push GPU higher but I'm not gonna bother at this point we're just gonna submit the score as it is time spy will behave differently than extreme I don't even remember if we're at 4.9 on two cores anymore I've kind of lost track okay answer that and stay fashionable good reference that's from supervillain next what Mustaine's by matt $2 mousetrap for the wooden bow strat so the Parks and Rec right Parks and Rec reference hammer slap $5 I see 19 thumbs down isn't that exactly how many employees Linus has pretty damn close think you're onto something let's get some heavy music fans in the chat Harley Clarke thank you Zann Cruz I like turtles it's one of my favorite bands actually abuse nab use it $5.00 Jesus to get some salad to stay healthy okay so they don't say and healthy is I don't think after you how do you pull all the things you've all told us to eat tonight you put a salad on top of it I don't think that's how staying healthy works but I will certainly try it so we're trying to get everyone anyone who's trickled in or out we're at 82 22 four times five extremely we passed - a long time ago we passed serve I think I'm not familiar with serve they may well pass us I don't know if our score is updated yet 82 22 I think is what it was and we tried to pass gunslinger briefly can't quite do it we'll need more tuning or different parts so we'll leave it there for time spike stream there's a times by normal non extreme just to place a score with it and we'll do fire strike and then close it out techsoup jiggle the handle turn it up to 11 thank you for the $2 yoni benny oni buy a song with this you hear all that remains I have heard all that remains what did I hear by them I don't know what I listened to by them oh they just cycled through in my youtube like recommended thing once I think that's where I saw all that remains I haven't really listened to them to be honest Dominic Pham last hurrah yeah basically CJ Hansen for nine give it all as my fave all-time favorite I keep it all as great John guy $20 smashed the hat mucho love we ready we already smashed Linus I think he'll you'll get back to us though throw some island to island or something Zzyzx wolf make LTT cry like an anime fan on prom night ouch two dollars cracks dill mill used 1093 voltage frequency points Oh see I get what you're saying I I think we're probably a bit past that point in terms of in terms of like tiredness and things like that I don't even know how this score compares at this point but let's take a look now we're not connected to the Internet that would help so I don't know where we're gonna place on this one c'mon tell im okay let me just pull it up on the other machine so we're looking at times by not extreme for one GPU oh there it goes okay one GPU a times by normal the site is going so slow three marks crazy slow right now still loading guys I don't know how we actually compare right now result is hit and I'm guessing because their website seems to be down that's annoying okay times pi LTTE all right save that one invalid score probably cuz I couldn't submit now already exists okay so it's already up apparently three mark websites still not responding stop breaking 3d mark okay so 15 494 if anyone can get the 3d market result that wait that's gonna cause a problem any of you get the 3d mark results page to load for the Hall of Fame page sorry click on times by not extreme and then click on 1x and then tell me where 15 4 9 4 lands on that chart because I can't get their site to load any more and I don't think what I just said will help it anyway we got that one I saved it for now not like we can't do it again later let's just run a fire strike extreme and then I'll stop there if we want to do others will do them off camera Sally last one if I even get it little load let me know all right super chats Joseph Kahn if you had to guess will the 1180 or whatever they call it be as fast as a Titan V I maybe hmm I don't know maybe a TI I don't think so fourth that doesn't sound right fourth spot multiple people's no one person said fourth is that really true be nice if I could load their website is the mod Mac compatible as mouse pad so on the store page for the mod mat technically it says not intended for use as a mouse pad it's meant as a service for modding components anti-static costs more as a result than a mouse pad would the material has sort of a rougher texture to it it's I would put it between a smooth Mouse surface and like the rough aluminum side of a Razer matte aluminum at so it's in between those in terms of roughness I've been using it as a mousepad this whole time it's not intended to be use that way if you are highly sensitive and really wants to move the services then no buy a mousepad if you're okay with a bit of texture then it seems to work fine for these I'm not a competitive eSports player though so I can't speak to the high-end but anyway 1180 I don't think it'll I don't know what I can tell you my guess for the next gaming generation is and I guess I mean I'm I'm almost 100% positive Nvidia I'm fairly confident is shifting some of its focus to to DirectX 12 and Vulcan we've been streaming for a while I'm kind of losing words at this point what am I looking for here shoot been streaming away too long anyway DirectX 12 and Vulcan o out of order processing so they're going that direction or more asynchronous compute that's what I was looking for asynchronous compute DirectX 12 Vulcan will be part of the more focused feature set of the next generation as I understand it today the Titan V made large strides specifically in games like Sniper Elite 4 with asynchronous compute and with DirectX 12 it didn't make us big games and DirectX games in DirectX 11 there's less to gain and videos already optimized there dx11 drivers a lot and their focus appears to be going more towards the asynchronous compute stuff so I can't answer your question where the 1180 will fall but in terms of predicting the focus of performance I think you'll see less of an uptrend on dx11 and more of an uptrend in dx12 and Vulcan specifically with asynchronous are out of order processing that's what I think is gonna happen next and I am fairly confident in a lot of those things I just said sways $5 Pepto Bismol after all of the food we're gonna have to eat because of this dream validated because your internet-connected okay so their site still down fire strike extreme 1864 for I don't know where that falls I don't know if it'll even let us validate it 1864 for though the score gråvik's 1887 eight physics 36,000 combined ten to thirty 10230 so that's where we are for that Hayden protests the heroes the yes they are really good more proggy but really good okay yeah so we're gonna save this one too I don't know what's up mmm-hmm LT TFS extreme okay so I think that'll close out the benchmarks basically I'll let this run while I I close out the stream here but we really cup more of these as Alex revisited my OC on 68 50k at four point four at one point four one can't seem to get the voltage any lower suggestions for four point four and you can't get the voltage lower check your LLC settings it's possible that you're putting in a number like one point four one but if your LLC is not holding it actually at what you're tying it to hold it at and it's lower you might have some more Headroom there if you increase your LLC do it responsibly check the voltage as you increase LLC because it's possible that it'll it'll like blast the voltage too high but just do a quick check and and see what that gets you that would be my starting point is LLC Lord Dreyer nor the Norwegian kroner is down today so my 350 NOK is only about 45 dollars today blame the recent politicians sorry to hear bill on cello what is that eggplant emoji Seminole chief rip LTT hashtag slush falling from the sky and Winston yes family rip LTT we'll see what they respond with wishbone two bucks thank you your thoughts on Atari VCS and take apart Byun take apart we might I saw the news announcement on it I don't know much about it I need to ask Patrick I know he had some thoughts on it he was doing some work earlier for us sways $10 buy some shims for that table I don't know what to do at the table Tyler whit 850 loved the vids keep them up thank you what's that thing in the background with your logo this this is a side panel I have a power revolt too it was one of our first ads we ever ran I think during CES of like I don't know maybe 2016 I want to say the I buy power or evil to the small form-factor gaming pc i still remember it because that was like the first ad read i had to memorize to say all show but they I actually I liked the case it had a couple problems but it was it was pretty good overall because they did the only liquid coin so thermals weren't as big of a concern this brute force solution but they just put like a vinyl wrap on the side panel the guy the PM basically did that by hand so we liked how it looked a lot wanted 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