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I think we're live we'll find out momentarily as always chat let me know if you can't hear me or something like that tested it before but hopefully it's all still working so let me know if you can hear us we should be live right now though so and someone is in chat saying not live yet it's just around a bit of a delay or they're trolling heavily okay so man this is some launch huh can you guys can you hear me can everybody hear me okay today we are going to be overclocked in the 28 ET I found Edition ok cool everyone says they can hear it and then we're gonna move past that because I know it's not gonna get me as far as I want and we're gonna try out this I actually haven't really done anything with this yet other than I've done some photography some b-roll have started thermal testing but haven't done any real overclocking so this is the first of the partner models were gonna try overclocking I have an Asus one tomorrow we have some content on that going live on the Asus model but today we're going to start with the XC ultra because to be honest the HP's models and pieces for a teardown so so we needs this today but anyway we'll see if that gets us any further then the founders edition card did in the review what pretty far but did not do any any times by extreme demonstrations and the review and also we've got actually hardcore overclock and apparently joined the chat so welcome bill joy if you don't know who he is check him out on his own channel he did the PCB analysis of the founders Edition how most at frontier Edition the reference card recently for our own channel so alright so yeah we're gonna be doing more video cards stuff today and Ryan's linking the 20 ATT I review and chat if you missed it that went up a couple hours ago I'm gonna let a couple people file in before we really start the benchmark so we've got 620 people watching now should go out quite a bit and then we'll really start rolling for the advertiser for this stream we are running thermal grisly who make the conduct oh not liquid metal that we've used on several CPUs I wouldn't recommend it for GPUs but they do make things like hydro hydronaut and cryo not for GPUs so we've used a lot of cryo not on our GPS when we do mods typically with the hybrid model and you'll see more of that soon so that's the advertisers we have a link in the description below if you wanna pick up conductin out for your cpu D lids or hydronaut or cryo not for your GPU projects or or connection between the cold plate and the IHS on a traditional CPU some pretty high quality paste and thermal interface material from thermal grizzly alright so lots of lots of chat in here so far and people still joining one more note here so those the foil shirts the one I'm wearing now we have those up for pre-order quite a while ago and sold through all the inventory we could pretty fast in like one or two streams and we over ordered a little bit just to account for potential lost and shipping ones make sure everyone who ordered one got one in the mail didn't have any issues with it getting lost so we ordered some extras for that reason and for Quality Assurance reasons and now that all those have made it to the original customers releasing the remaining of the limited edition shirts it's not many of them they should be gone by the end of the stream and then we are we're not reordering there are no more left in stock other than what I've taken for myself so that's it I mean you can store that gamers access not know if you wanna pick them up and you will not see them available for sale again after that this is just what's left from our extras to make sure that people got all theirs but everyone got them so that's great because now we have some extras we can release for those inventory let's check those out okay so we got a thousand people in here and I have have a couple questions Steve can you see about getting on video to factory underclock that price I think everybody has gotten a lot of feedback today and I am I'm sure that they are aware of the demand for a factory under clocked price as you put it on the card so I don't know I I mean can we just can we just talk about this launch for a second does anyone have I don't know press your thoughts and chat I guess I'll try and read them as they go by but NVIDIA seems pretty disorganized on this one which we said in the review and leading up to review disorganized is on the media side disorganized on the public presentations the charts were on their marketing charts but they're not even up to Nvidia zones tentative Marketing charts and then like basically as I'm aware there's still a complete lack of r-tx supported actual games and things blender is always late to the punch this isn't an Nvidia problem on this end but blender takes a while to update so if they ever update they will but if they ever update to support RT X features RT cours things like that will visit production side of things but as of today I got southern review we can't review stuff based on promises and the promises didn't land so builds lloyd says they built compute cards and then rushed to figure out how to sell them to gamers I yeah I would kind of agree with that it does seem so it had a there are two sides to it and I will start overclocking to say I'm waiting for chat to file in a bit more two sides to it that I have in my mind right now one is the skeptic and on the skeptic side I see it as like build Zoid said I see it as how do we how do we how do we market our lack of a process shrink our lack of tangible performance gains on the current architectures how do we take that take the situation where we're waiting for a process for node shrinks and then turn it into a product we can sell and market it I think the answer was well what if we take our compute card technology and figure out how to do something with it and use our leverage in the gaming space and our market share and try and make ray-tracing happen so that we can sell this product up until a process track down whether whether that's ten or seven or whatever that's one side I see some chat you guys have to but the other side I'm thinking is you know for we're trying to give on video the benefit of the doubt you'd assume maybe they're actually trying to advance the industry it would benefit them to advance the industry it would benefit them to get away from frame rate they can already do that pretty well graphics hardware is now up to speed with graphics and games so they got to find something to do so I don't know there's the two sides I see it as I'm leaning more towards skeptic right now we've gotta be honest it seems more like a marketing thing until I can see actual games and tangible anything I gotta call it a marketing play okay so we've got 1,700 people in chat now a couple super chats then we'll get going on the overclocking so first one play Mackenzie $25 Australian I think hey Steve no one has done anything on envy link yet do you think you'll give an overview on that and task for quote marginal gains yes I'll leave that there next one pickles the greatest two dollars any chance of you doing 1080 is live versus 20 atti I wasn't planning on doing 1080i SLI I'll think about it after we look at envy link but the problem with that is there's a really kind of selective list of games that actually do well with SLI so I'd have to go look at what those are and then hopefully they also work with envy link in theory it should I think it's supposed to all be cross-compatible but I know the boards are all crossed compatible with envy link in SLI but anyway maybe I'm not playing on that one two more and we'll start Michael Morales says will you all be comparing that the EVGA versions versus Nvidia's curious about the temp comparisons yes we will be definitely this stream isn't really the purpose of that the stream is so we will be comparing the cards for overclocking I guess in this specific application but not not thermals today and core poll capital Wang says $2 patreon doesn't like my credit card so here you go thank you very much ok and then Chad's talking about what they think of the launch so yes it is uh it looks like most people agree with pretty much all the reviewers at this point ok so then let's let's let's get going on this what we have today is currently a founders edition card or a reference card as they should be known in the slot and that will be replaced to the XE ultra momentarily so this one huh it's it's a little worse for wear I did throw the cooler back on there for this but it's all good everything works properly tested it with thermocouples earlier so no need to worry it's just a little uglier a little a little scratched up and then we'll replace that battle-hardened 2080 ti founders edition with the XE ultra which is right here in front of me and that's the first partner Carter gonna be testing for overclocking Wow $100 Canadian from DG the cameras thank you very much DJ the chemist DJ the count says you're my hero that is all heart well you've you've just bought us our food for the night so you're my hero to you thank you very much DJ the chemist we appreciate that very much that's that's extremely generous of you okay so is anyone getting is anyone else getting short audio silence every few seconds is anyone getting that let me know and it doesn't count if I'm not talking at that time also we might have some background noise from the fans so you're gonna have to deal with it though okay so the no no no okay everyone's good all right cool so here's a precision Expo my god that's a lot of notes okay got it thank you uh-huh here's precision x1 this is the new software I can't make this any bigger I don't think so as far as I'm aware this is the only fully compatible or the most compatible overclocking utility that we have right now for the 2000 the twenty series can you see that okay Andrew do we need to brighten it okay that's bright in there it's bright in the monitor a bit so this is going to be what we're using for overclocking today I'll run GPZ in the background for adjust some thermal monitoring and it's not getting that much brighter but it's a bit okay is that okay you got that tall okay all right yeah we're filming the screen because the trouble yes someone says I thought those shirts wouldn't be sold after that one stream the pre-orders were ending that stream we ordered a few extras and the extras as I said a moment ago were because we wanted to make sure that none of them got lost and shipping and everyone who bought the foil shirts got one and so now we have them it's it's a couple it's really not that many so we're releasing the extras because everyone got theirs fortunately there were no no packages that went missing so we released the the leftovers of that they should be gone pretty soon I think really not many of them left and we have not reordered and will not reorder the design okay so precision x1 Lots changes here the main ones I guess this whole interface has gotten an update you've probably seen it by some reviewers but there's a frequency stepping page now so on the Left we have frequency on the bottom we have temperature scales 60 to 90 hear the throttle points about 87 these days the hard throttle and up from 83 or four and this is primarily useful because in theory you can drag these up to tell it hey don't drop the clocks until the last second typically we've seen and so on the reviews I can't click it it's gone forever that's it that's gone so from the reviews least I tracked down below the Jacob if you're watching from EVGA I dragged the point below the x-axis and it will never return yes so some bugs but anyway in the testing we did for the review showed that there is a throttle point at around 69 70 degrees there's throttle point at around 60 degrees there's one towards 83 one towards 87 of course so those are our throttle points and then we have we're not going to use this much today this page is just tuning for fan speed curbs don't care about that we're just gonna set the max let it go this is Auto overclocking we're not gonna use this but it is a volt frequency scale so you have voltage on one and frequency on the other and then the idea is that it can kind of fine-tune on points of the Volt frequency curve where the frequency in the voltage should be but that's not fun so we're gonna manually overclock it and then we have memory which this is about don't brighten the monitor turn our TX on instead being told well what there's when there's a I'm kinda a text from EVGA tell me how to fix that bug when there's a monitor that supports our TX on much like a game please let me know memory goes up pretty high so it will not actually overclock like this but the slider goes up to 3000 we did that in just kind of black screen immediately or crash or something we've seen most of these cards doing 800 to 900 but I have not tested the EVGA one yet and then we also have the clock scaling tends to be offset about a hundred to two hundred megahertz voltage does do anything it might feel like it it does I don't know I asked Tom Peterson from Nvidia on camera I said I'm gonna give you a chance to prove me wrong why is the voltage slider not a placebo and he explained it and it made sense but man it does not seem to do anything so we have stepping charts and our reviews that show why it doesn't really do anything power target EVGA has updated their card they are I think Jacob I think are watching text me if I'm wrong but I think they're both reference boards and the difference here and videos goes up to 123 percent power target evj updated their BIOS and it goes up to 130 percent and it is based off of the same baseline so it should actually be higher so yeah that I think that will help us quite a bit we're getting some extra frequency there and I'm just kind of checking out chat between ok so I think I think that's the whole overview let's default this and let it run without any changes is that fin still bugged yes we relaunch precision just in case and then we're gonna run a baseline and see how does it perform base I'll go over the system specs just so you understand what's in there and then I'm being told by EVGA that yes reference for that one 130 percent so yes this is in fact a reference PCB for the XE ultra that we're gonna be working with today the XE to old sure has gone with IEC x2 just for clarity we don't have that today and then they will have custom PCB models coming out shortly but because of Nvidia slowness in dealing with the partners that didn't really happen they didn't get enough information to build their custom PCBs leaving us with reference boards for launch and that's about it but anyway we're gonna focus on x by extreme today and the reason is I ran this really heavily for a repeal TT stream and we use the Titan V in that one so we'll run it with the CPU test I guess but then we're gonna turn it off later and just do only graphics but let's just run the full thing and I'm gonna get GPZ open just so we can kind of keep an eye on what's happening and it'll drop our score a tiny bit but it's ok and that will give us some sensor data at the end of the run just to make sure we know what's going on okay so that's gonna go I'm going to give you some more information here and then I'll start reading the the chat so on says the Elric from tackle tomorrow burned his 20 atti what do you mean by burned whatever huh it's it's not scaling properly which shouldn't affect the score I guess well well we'll restart that one just in case it does affect the score the whole monitor okay there that's kid that's good good start so the system we are running an eighty eighty six K which means I will not beat the Titan V score I posted previously for the whole system and we are running that at 5.0 gigahertz this one does 5.35 we showed that in a live stream previously but I've got it at 5.0 because the focus is GPU today and I don't want to fight the CPU our rip LTTE stream uses two 79-80 XE which has since become a Miam of what cpu is that and that score will be unbeatable with this system but I do want to see how close we can get so just for reference and let's let's let's I'll check chat momentarily and see a lot of it here but let's show our previous Hall of Fame score let me let me open this up as a standalone window okay we can show this let me try and tilt this monitor over so Angie let me know if you can get an okay shot of that so this is the x by extreme list and can you see that okay now that okay so what we did was we did a repeal TTA stream it was a response to Linus tech tips who are down here ltte benchmark number 10 and only Canadians in the top ten I'll give him that and then so they got 80 92 on Titan V so 1980 XE we came in after them originally I think we're at fourth or fifth or something like I don't remember fourth fifth something in there been bumped down to seventh Titan V still sorry 980 XE we're not gonna be here today that was 80 to 85 and the score for that oh you know I got to give it a shot shout out to Richie see 77 is one of our patreon backers went in there and did his own rip GN within the patreon discord and I think he was chillin his Titan V's are pretty cool really fun to see the community getting involved and Congrats Richie on beating our score I'll be back soon to beat yours that's the fun of it so our score the Titan V is the interesting one because it is a predecessor to Torian it was Volta of course graphics score for that it's kind of small but it's 7873 where's our graphics core we are not gonna get the CPU score today but Sony it's only three I don't think we're gonna beat this with a twenty atti I really don't I think we're I don't know I think we're to get closer to 7000 but my goal today I like to set goals for these streams my goal today is to hit seventy four hundred points on the graphics core with overclocking we're ignoring CPU and I think we're gonna need a board partner card in order to do that so the goal is 7400 for today for keeping track at home and Jacob joking via text that maybe you can beat kingpin score that's that's not a nice thing to joke about Jacob we know that's not gonna happen don't have to rub it in fly them out here though fly them out here we'll get them on camera and what we'll do is he'll set up all the benchmarking systems and I'll push go and that will allow me to claim the score so then we can say that I beat his score via proxy of kingpin himself I guess but get him out here we'll do a live liquid nitrogen OC stream or something with kingpin okay so that's a lot of talk and I guess you have to speed though let me check on chat this is still running its first full pass for a base line and see kingpin with the 2083 eye does he have a score up there already twenty eighty I didn't see actually okay did he yeah kingpin with twenty yeah so I didn't say it's not faster than Titan V I said I don't think I'm going to get it higher than our Titan V big difference our Titan B was under liquid this is under air it's a reference card this one is also under air its reference PCB and also I'm not kingpin the guy is like it's not even fair he's he's he's not he shouldn't even be putting his names on the scores at this point the score should be called Robo clocker his own robot is beating him so I the Titan V may well be slower than the twenty ATT is if you are literally or you have better understanding of what you're doing and he is in fact a professional overclockers so that is not what I said - thank you anyway okay is there still a lie a discount a live-streamed discount for the store we could do that I guess let me get some of this go and maybe I'll enable one or something okay still going here a couple super chats in quite a few actually mani v20 atti overclocked or 1080i is in sli question mark I don't not 1080i is in SLI I guess is my only answer to that would I don't know I haven't tested us-ally in a while but you're gonna be disabling a lot of the time and it won't do anything a lot of the time so I still don't really like that configuration jack fairly five dollars do you think there's a possibility that our TX will never be adopted in games or decline like SLI it sure there's a chance in Nvidia has a lot of market share they have a lot of engineers who help game developers so it's possible it gets adopted we already know it's been worked on it's just none of them made it for launch so I really don't know yeah I wish I'd better insight for you but as a consumer just wait see what happens if RT x sees wider adoption you games take years to develop so it's gonna be a while and I don't know that I want to be the first person with one of these cards especially who knows like when they shrink to 7 or 10 nanometers or something is RT acts even still gonna be ethane like if it if it flops now and they can go through a process rank and change the architecture and just pack more FP use in there instead what happens where does ray chase and go so yeah I really don't know ok and last Super chat for now that I'm gonna read hasty of my name is chance lol do you think Nvidia might be holding back on performance with drivers till they move enough Pascal overstuffed cards I don't think so that's like there are some conspiracy theories that are reasonable here I don't think that's one of them the drivers are going to be more limited then later on but that's I really don't think that's because they're holding back to sell Pascal I think Pascal saw itself well enough by nature of being a portable so now I don't think so I don't think so on that okay so baseline score for thermals we weren't getting too hot here but we have a low ambient temperature fan speed not going too crazy what was our max them all here 67 degrees not I you know it's we have controlled thermal test if you want to see the controlled numbers it goes higher than that of course but we're just doing some ad hoc OC testing today and max clock doesn't count for much but 1935 before I hit thermal limits and started dropping to sustain the temperature targets well to internal the GPU temperature targets not the one in precision the the targets we can't see it drops clocks so we have a chart on this in the review where it goes down from like 20 70 megahertz to 20 55 20 40 every couple of degrees and that's part of that baseline score we got 62 46 for graphics and remember my goal today is 7400 so we have 1200 points to gain here quite a bit big big climb we're asking for and CBO scores are relevant we're at 4200 - it's only a 5 gigahertz right now I haven't really done anything with with the memory oh then XMP and it's I guess I should go through that to use the system specs we're using an asus rog Maximus 10 hero it's our best board for Z 370 that we have and works well for overclocking it's the one that got us to five point three five gigahertz previously using 32 gigabytes for sticks of vengence lpx memory and that is 3200 megahertz and I think a CL 16 stock then we have an ax 1600 i quarter power spice we're certainly not going to run into any power limits crack in X 62 for the CPU cooler I like those for their ease and we have a little bit of airflow from the CPU going over the GPU but it's not anything meaningful it's just from one 140 fan that's blowing through a radiator for the CPU cooler so that's going that way and that's our test bench but anyway so score I'm gonna take a note of the baseline and the baseline is 62 46 for graphics baseline with a 28 et IFP so I'm just taking a note of that we're gonna try and beat that as we go and and that should should get us started so okay let's let's start overclocking this thing so first of all pop-up precision x1 first thing I'm gonna do we have a full OC test stepping table in the review I encourage you to check it out cuz I'm gonna skip a whole lot of steps right now and start going towards where I know performance optics a lot so let's do just something kind of interesting and see what happens I actually didn't do this well I I don't remember the results if I did it was a long night so we're gonna go to 123 percent power target and I'm just gonna match the fans here so I apologize if it picks up on audio and that's it I'm not changing anything else that will let us see some volt some thermal frequency response in testing and we're at 4000 RPM right now in this car this one goes a bit faster than our other one seems there's some fan speed variance plus or minus 10% times by extreme kill the cpu test don't care about that and let's get that open I'm gonna pull GPZ on top of it once it's launched and we can take a look at frequency versus thermals and see what happens and then see if our score is any different this time around that should be should be pretty interesting to look at I think so I'm gonna catch up on chat momentarily and didn't talk didn't Tom say it's a one-click overclocked plan hit on a short stream then yes you can certainly do that I think that takes 20 minutes we're not gonna do that today though and that is something we'll be looking into I'm sure okay so we got ten dollars trying to read that one already the real deal five dollars thank you looking forward to the MSI and ACS AIB absolutely we have both of those actually here and ready to open see JW dick Eason two dollars I hate to ask but what cpu are using it is not the 79 a taxi I don't know if that was what you're getting at there's an 80 86 K and I bring this over here okay so we're currently at 1875 1890 area I have not offset the core at all so this is stock stock behavior for the EVGA card is higher on this it's it's got I think it has a higher factory OC I don't know or just runs cooler so it goes higher but boost theoretically boost 4.0 is on here and video is really really sparse to the details on 4.0 I don't know why but it's all it should be on here behaves a little differently we have a flatter current so now we're looking at something like 15 amps flat right now on this task for about 15 amps into the PCIe cables I don't know what the PCIe slots draw might be more variable and our frequency is bouncing around high 1800s low 1900s and that's gonna further drag down as we increase in temperature but times by is such a short test and each one of these is 30 seconds no more than a minute - by short enough that we're never gonna really hit super high temperatures which will be greatly beneficial to us in our scores and then the fan speeds now at thirty seven hundred rpm so that's about where it should be I guess it was at boosting earlier and let me check on chat from on let's see someone says I you running a 4k monitor a standard 1080p it's a 4k monitor but it's at 1080p just because we're recording the screen and it's easier to read stuff that way and we can screen cap but when the card crashes that typically throws issues so that's that is a a problem that's why we're just recording the screen it's bit easier build so it says yeah the card will use PCIe slot power for some of its power it definitely will I'm not sure if it behaves any differently than Pascal that builds out if you know let me know I think PC / probably reviewed that but I did not look at that and let me double check on getting some other messages so frequency right now dipping down to high 17 hundreds in some cases 1800 as part of this is just the type of test the workload times by has two graphics tests one of them is more memory intensive and I think it's built I'd feel free to correct me I'm Ron I think is it graphics test - that's more GPU memory intensive I think one of them is more memory intensive and he can correct me in chat actually hardcore overclocking look out for him graphics test one I think is more geometry but I might have this backwards let me know bill to it okay 65 18 so what we've done is improve our score by three hundred points by doing almost literally nothing not quite literally but getting close are you sure you just want to have the power supply lying on the bottom there wheeler we learned from the verge that it can short-circuit that way wasn't wasn't really sure where that was going but I I applaud your commentary sir or madam okay so yeah we've improved by three hundred points by just increasing the power target this is not news really to any of you probably maybe maybe someone but if you just increased power target and the fan speed we get benefit from both of those and these cards are primarily power limited I encourage you to check out build Zoids PCB and vrm analysis on our channel where he talks about the power limitations and capabilities of this particular vrm if you haven't seen it yet okay let's start doing some pushes here so I'm gonna go for just a 100 offset and let's you know what let's let's step it back we gotta save some for later let's go to 80 and leave the memory low until we find a stable core let's run that and then we're gonna push it in increments of about 20-25 until it crashes and the goal here today our goal is 7400 for graphics core we are currently at 65 18 that is where we are right now and hopefully we can hit 7400 I don't know so we've sold it I think we got a couple of store orders in up I might try and read those it just depends on time and how much we have today I'll I'll try I'm not promising reading the store orders today but maybe I might give you a shout out if you buy something down time okay so we have let's see a couple of super chat donations while this is running you like pop-up gpu-z too so we can keep an eye on that so right now 1965 nineteen fifty megahertz 50c which we're at max fan speed 3700 RPM it's about 59 decibels 59 DBA of fan noise and a noise floor 26 and that's 3,700 rpm so let me read some super chats now and then we'll get back to the benching results so for super chats we have a couple new ones fluffy kitty three thousand five dollars please review more cases in the future I'm still struggling to find one I like I don't know if it's snowflake in disguise or what but yeah I think cases are there's a lot of bad ones have you looked at so a couple of thought my head I'm gonna give you a few different form factor form factors a few different sizes and types of case Silverstone red lines here six we liked it a lot for a cheaper mid tower case that's like a $70 case if you still like them but you don't want that size case you get a step-up larger size the PMO one it's getting harder to find now the PMO too is a bit of a disappointment in comparison but the PM 11 if you can find it was good the cooler master actually h 509 p that just flat h 500 is pretty good and ndx he also has an h 500 that's pretty good but it is not thermally focused it does okay cooler masters does better if I remember correctly the H 500 P matches pretty good so I don't know hopefully those help give you a starting place we have some reviews up though we are reviewing more though nori Rivera no come back hit scrolled up no Farrah $5 Wow Steve just saw the latest video did Nvidia just bribe senior and the analyst snowflake with quote tweezers bundled with their 28 he Ti I guess that's for the rest of my career I hope to see people referring to zip ties those tweezers I really I sincerely do for the next 30 years that's I hope that's all I see in chat comments to the point that eventually humanity just starts calling them tweezers then they'll have really done as a favor Israel Garcia two dollars any 20 ATT i2x enemy link review in the work I already said yes earlier but you might have missed it so yes just you know give us a bit Mustain to I'm at five dollars and I'll check that score a moment lioness has a video coming out next week where he takes a forty thousand dollar computer with 4gb 100 s and tried to beat the rip ltte score I'm not gonna read the TLDR because that ruins that spoils it but that's cool I didn't know that I guess that's on float plane or something so I guess keep an eye out for their forty thousand dollar computer for TV one hundred video I have not seen it but according to my stains by Matt here it's supposed to be I don't know if it's response to us but it's supposed to try and beat our score so I'm really looking forward to that Linus and team I think that's probably alex is doing if so we'll keep an eye out okay so scores max frequency this time see we stepped up at all twenty ten megahertz but that is brief so it's not like it was holding that it was holding much lower than that but it does boost a bit based on thermals and the load the workload sixty seven oh six our score target 7400 so sixty seven oh six we were at sixty-five eighteen with just a one twenty three percent offset and max fans and this is with plus 80 megahertz on the core it's pretty good there and I think think that's gonna set us off looks like we actually might have a chance at hitting 7400 but we shall see our Titan V was seventy eight thirty six if I remember correctly I don't think we're gonna hit that it was water-cooled it had shunt mods on it had a lot of work done to it but we'll see what we can do today let's go ahead and boost this frequency up a bit until it crashes go for 100 right now time spy extreme here we go no cpu test this time and we have also the the beer glasses finally which I presently have water in I'm sorry they are actually multifunctional though believe it or not so these are back in stock as of last night they just arrived right in time for the stream I bought a decent amount this time we've been buying a decent nob but they keep selling the first round sold out and I think 14 hours which was very unexpected second round which I ordered like two times as many sold out in I think about a week maybe two so we ordered more than that this time so they are on store dock gamers nexus net and that's uh that's let's we'll see if it lasts it should last the stream I think I think we have enough to last the stream store that gamers exit on that they're in groups of one two or four but discounts for the higher quantities and also like I said these foil shirts we had a few left over just for making sure everyone got there is none got lost in the mail none did so now we have extra inventory we're selling what's left and that's it it'll be gone the pre-order is previously almost sold through our entire stock and we had to cut them off to hold on to the rest of the foil shirts the limited edition shirts just to make sure we actually had some in case like one went to Australia and never made it or something so we're releasing that inventory now it's up on the store if you want it and let's see super chats giant dolphin $5 what does our tax mean for the I'm not gonna read the rest icon haha $2 message retracted okay thank you message retracted $5 James love no message thank you James All American freedom with a you to 999 dollars thank you very much doubt my daughter and I love our GN hats still watching have been for years I don't think we I don't know which hats you have but we haven't sold any for a little while now so we we've had some discussions about making more but I don't know how much of our audience likes it likes hats that's still running the test by the way so current score to beat if you're just tuning in we're at 67 106 points for the graphic score our target is 7400 we were running a twenty atti founders edition card with a bit of scuffs on it and then we're gonna be switching to the eg AXI ultra a bit later once we run into the limits of this car which should not take too long on the founders edition cooler and our scores set 60 706 stock score complete stock 62 46 so increased quite a bit and we're gonna keep pushing for that the coaster has stuck to the cup okay so we are still running through a second test I think in time so I wanna see if Oh get he getting EVGA updates so EVGA responding to my earlier mention in the stream where he said sudden kingpin out and he can proceed to beat his own score and then put my name on it which I we're not actually gonna do that fight so King Ben might come out here we haven't worked out the details but it sounds like it is a possibility so pretty that would be pretty cool if we got him out he's if you don't know who he is he works at EVGA their kingpin cards are branded with his name so he is an extreme overclocker and then he works with a guy 10 who does some insanely good electrical engineering work and then I'm also being told apparently apparently the hybrid will be available in October so updates for you from them ok graphics core 67 12 and all we did was push a +1 hunt or plus a 20 megahertz over the last one so we are within margin of error that is only six points ahead of the last one that was plus 100 megahertz so we're really not making any progress with that so it is time to kick it up a bit more if the card can hold it let's just go to 125 so it going 25 increments and you know what let's um let's play around with this voltage slider some more so it's kind of that's okay I'm kind of curious let's do fire strike extreme with the demo so I can freeze it freeze frame it windowed mode and let's just move this slider and see if it does anything it a frozen freeze frame demo it's hard to tell when times pie is rotating through but really doesn't look like it does anything in our OC stepping chart doesn't do anything that you can see and the voltage really didn't change in that OC step until we started overclocking the memory in addition to the core at which point the card mandated that the voltage would change so but that's not because the slider it's just it decided to change it so anyway let's let's see if it does anything just really briefly here I'll freeze frame it somewhere kind of intensive and I think I know a good frame for that we use a couple different ones the first couple are fairly intensive one of these is normally pretty bad with all the post-processing like this one's pretty this is about 15 amps right now through the card with a stock setup and I forgot what I want to say goes up the bomb I can't go off memory but I forget what it goes up to with the power target boosted but 15 amps on the stock and voltage is reading at about a thousand millivolt trips or 1 volt roughly assuming this is accurate let's boost that to offset of a hundred and apply and I don't think it's it's so it's not all I shouldn't say that it's not offset of a hundred it is a 100% slider just doesn't have a unit of measurement in there but I don't know I mean it's not really like it's it's hard to see if it's actually changing I think in theory and Tom said this in the interview in theory it's supposed to just tell the car like hey it's okay to be in the maximum voltage state all the time but it seems like it's doing that anyway and I don't know if that's because the power target or because the workload or the overclocking or what but it really doesn't seem like this does anything and I think builds ride as probably said something similar in his own content will max it out anyway though because it's not like it's going to over one volt and these cars are lower voltage than previous Pascal card so it kind of makes sense anyway times by extreme let's do another one of these with a 125 offset we'll start doing memory soon and see if we get any progress towards our goal of 7400 points for today we are at 67 12 right now okay and that's going up okay all right so we got a couple super chats here we got Dalton Pete $10 I have a cryo reg c7 see you with a Dan case a for SFX what could I do other - what what else could I do it's get more clearance from the sidewall other than getting a new fan ah and Patrick was that if he can even hear me was that Dan case a four is that the one you were looking at the other day I don't know if he can hear me anyway we were looking at some damn case cases the other day he might be listening to the stream he'll hear me in 30 seconds and the their small I don't know that specific model I really don't so I don't know I don't know what you can do for clearance it's a small case yeah yeah is it the a for SFX so that's the super small and you saw yeah someone's asking how to get more clearance from the sidewall no I guess we're looking into it I don't know so maybe like I don't know I don't know what the plan is okay here's the case so this is the rise in tech affion video they put standoffs right there Ryan's active side panels and I think the Dan case has like snaps the side panels but you could consider doing something like that okay potential a standoff I'm sure you can find it just like a piece of circular piece of plastic online somewhere try and shove that in there I I'm not familiar with the case but that's an idea to consider and okay other super chats Zachary sweets what cpu are you testing testing GPUs so I found a loophole for your meme 8086 k2 Dave you're actually curious 5 gigahertz on that so it's not heavily overclocked Paul Hawk 10 PLN do you think RTX will go the way of physics I don't know it certainly could and Vinnie's got a mixed track record here they've done some really good work with some of their technologies and making them actually adopted they've also got things like VX AOM FAA that were cool in concept but never really went anywhere if I remember correctly I think maybe Rainbow six or what was that game there was like that failure of a game hey which is not not helping I can't remember the name of it there's some like dystopian short-lived MMO and I I want to say it wasn't Tom Clancy game something with a D I don't know I can't remember it I think that had vxa oh and I can't remember any others so yeah I don't know I guess oh yeah Batman had like some stuff too I guess if you want vision division that's it I think there's the division thank you division yes chats following up with a division now yeah that one I think had one of those Nvidia attack graphics text in it and I can tremendous so will our TX go the way of physics there is a track record for yes and no and everyone I've spoken to at Nvidia and I don't mean marketing people I mean people further into the company seem to believe that our TX is getting more effort behind it than some of the previous technologies it has more development focus they are working with game developers more heavily you've got an SDK out that's been out since GDC now it's not new tag so it's possible that this could be more like game works I don't mean that as a pejorative I mean more like game works insofar as game works has pretty whether you like it or not has pretty wide implement a games so they're kind of pushing that angle with it and if they work with the same developers then it might have a wider spread just it's how long until that's a thing and the games that you care about because it's select games kind of like a Sal I yeah where's great when it works and then it really sucks when it doesn't so yeah I don't know the answer but we have to look at history and I am skeptical enough that I would be hesitant to recommend a purchase today in fact I would not recommend the purchase today but see r20 atti review four instances where there might be a good purchase for you it's just for general gaming audience not recommended so I can't recommend it based on promises and it's it's not it's not used in icing so it's a promise that's it 6809 graphic score for that run we're offset 125 megahertz on the core zero on the memory presently and that's 6809 for graphics and we have let's see we have surpassed our previous score by a bit so we were at sixty seven twelve or go up slowly but surely goal is 7400 today and I'm not sure if we'll achieve it or not let's see Oh Oh what is this can I show this I just got a text Manny Vijay really capitalizing on this stream to market their stuff but I mean hey it's okay this one's kind of cool I'm not gonna blame them for head it's it's interesting here is a world exclusive picture EVGA NV link bridge okay world exclusive apparently let me blast the brightness on my phone hopefully you can see it and let's get a zoom in there thank you very much Jakob presenting that over I got a OBS open too so I can see if you can see it so apparently this is a world exclusive which I don't know wow it's how much that really matters but hey you got to see it on to be link bridge right there so there you go that's EVGA is evey J's world exclusive that all were worth Jacob a picture of an NB link bridge it's cool it's got LEDs in its dip with them and video on I'll give you that but come on I'm asking for a little more here like I don't know what about a what about Ken bin card send me a photo the kingpin card then we'll talk okay all right so we've got so hey I like that calm we've got some comments about their thing we've got a mix so I'll read them both Jacob keep your ears open we've got a pogchamp it's not really helpful battery not really helpful but ok cylon not really helpful but i guess it looks like it looks like a Cylon I guess I can see that we've got a looks good EVGA we have ugly really emphasized we have nice we have it's a Protoss ship I would agree with that as well so it's good mix if you're going for sci-fi I guess you've got Cylon and Protoss so maybe lean into the sci-fi theme of that one alright you already have that 80s anniversary thing maybe maybe it all works out go for the Far Cry blood dragon approach was a fun game alright so 6809 was our previous score let's go ahead and boost this to 150 offset on the core so all I'm doing is boosting that core up by another 25 megahertz I agree looks ugly it is like the 1980s I mean even Jay is doing that design lately it's coherent at least cohesive I should say cohesive design aesthetic so we got I got a about an even mix of ugly and good and sci-fi okay 150 offset that's her new push not doing a through the memory until this crashes and fails okay let's run that one what's our peak clock not that it means much what with the boost 4.0 behavior 20 40 megahertz was our peak at one point never holds there but that was a peak our peak peak actual peak was 21 15 and testing for the review no 2104 this card 2120 115 for the 20 80 and did not hold of course but it was perfect the perfect app was power so that was our limitation for the review with the f e e BJ thanks for the exclusive looks good good looking for me okay well cool we've got a got a good mix Jacob yeah I don't know how you deal with it making products like that just like what he even do if it you release something everyone asks for then they all all the people who didn't ask for it say they hate it and all the people who wanted it don't say anything then the inverse next time alright so some some more housekeeping stuff here we have as a noted couple store mentions as this is running its clock testing we have the beer glasses back in stock and how's it goin G awesome beer glasses back in stock the end of the cobalt blue glasses they've been really popular sold out twice I ordered more this time I think they'll make I'm 99% positive they'll make make it through the stream but feel free to challenge me I guess gold rim on it and blue with the GM teardown logo like the one on the shirt here the foil shirt so these are I probably almost gone at this point some sizes might be gone I don't know I've been checked but like I said if you're just joining we had these up as a pre-order limited time thing all the pre-orders flew through our inventory faster than expected and I cut off the pre-orders left the remainder of the order so that we could look for any lost shirts none of those got lost in shipping so that was great and now we've released the rest of the inventory for people who don't like pre-ordering things because hey I don't blame you we certainly didn't recommend pre-order in the video cards that coming out recently so we had some leftover people who just want the straight order it and get it within a couple days anyway those are up on store dock gamers nexus net there should be a link below this time yes there's a link below stored I gave him sex done that anyway 150 offset right now and I'll get the super chats and one second here our new peak is twenty eighty five megahertz but that's up from twenty forty so we have gone up here and let's see a couple more questions hang on what are these any update on the smaller mod map the smaller mod mat is should be on the way for a sample so we have another sample coming in so no no no updates yet we're still trying to get a sample and that's actually like perfect and that's always a high goal to hit but take some time we can get there once we approve the sample start making them what CPU were testing got that one LJ with no K says to two dollars thank you very much what's the goal score for today 79 80 very good very clever I see you though not gonna get that past me no in fact the goal is 7400 and we are at 68 68 right now for the score so I'll take a note of that that is up from 6809 previously what's up I don't think we did saw a lot of the shirts I think there's still a couple there it may be in one size yeah no I don't think so let me double-check no yeah they're still there I think I don't know I think they're there anyway 68 68 and that is let's see 6809 was previous small gains got a way to go we're starting to run out of it was he headroom though so i don't know if we can hit 7400 with this card but we do have the eega card as backup sure EVGA there represe been texting me is probably waiting very eagerly for that to go in alright so that's a couple more super chats and then I see screenshots so our super chat and we'll bump it some more ie Odie's $5 thanks for the awesome coverage come on over to Mountain Creek Bike Park we can ride in that place from wireless BR cutely could work I'll pass on the VR but I'm happy to do some riding I've heard a lot about Mountain Creek bike park I think that's in New Jersey used to be called was it a Diablo Diablo and then they changed the name because that scared people so yeah I'll probably some point I typically go to like snowshoe or Bryce for downhill biking and yeah maybe Mountain Creek once I get up further north at some point when there's not a launch every month of the year that would be great and one more Kris cuz law Kozlowski $20 so I note that the 2080 is nearly 300 millimeters squared larger than the 1080 core according to TR up to six of these 72 multiprocessors are disabled i-20 atti has 68 out of 72 SMS enabled I'm sorry missing 256 of the possible FP use 64 times when I say it's 68 out of 72 right yes 68 out of 72 so 64 times for 256 so you have 256 possible more FP use that you could turn on which I don't know if that's gonna be a Titan or just for yield purposes they give a buffer to d6 FP it or CUDA cores that you prefer it's not really enough for a Titan I don't think but they can do it and they enabling the extra SMS would give them another memory controller which would give them the capability of adding another memory module so they could I have 12 memory controllers instead of 11 I check our architecture content for that if you curious to learn more and then 12 was up thunder 12 it would potentially open up some machine learning deep learning applications but I don't know if they're gonna do titan but your question was not that your question was do you think high prices are due to low yield I don't know if they are due to that specifically but the prices are certainly higher because of the yield as a die as Annie silicon gets larger you you will become limited on your your ability to drop the price it's really expensive to make a big dye yields are bad so yeah that's that's part of the problem certainly for the price the rest is probably because there's no competition and video is competing with themselves okay we need to run this again so let's see if it'll survive 175 this is where we get into territory I'm not sure how it will do because for a short test it's possible that this will survive whereas for the the longer like actual game benchmarks this this these clocks do not really make it they kind of die and also the offset here so offset that is not like you can't just say 175 mega Hertz offset and apply it to all games as if it's it's plus 175 mega Hertz because it is offset from the frequency that the game is pushing the card to run at so that some games you might get a lower frequency naturally than others that's something we've seen certainly in the past and and that can be a limiter of performance as well you twist the for the blinds thank you alright so this is running and our peak is still 20 85 we haven't gone up on that that is again peak is not really great metric of anything it's just showing us is what we're doing working and then you're hitting power and thermal limits after that okay so what can we learn here current perf cap reason 20 and gpu-z is power no surprise and I was surprised limited by power so the EVGA card will give us an extra 7% power should help the boards can handle it the PCBs can handle it if your hands can handle it so we can switch that once we're out of room here goal today seventy four hundred points four times by extreme current score to beat 68 68 previously we had a score of 62 46 was our baseline so 62 46 was what we got with full stock setup with just the we're talking just graphics score here so full stock out of the box card performance with the out of the box thermals of course and 65 18 was the next bump so that was drive that three hundred point difference was derived from a power target offset to 123 percent from one hundred and maxing the fan speed which gives us more thermal overhead as well for boosting because boost behavior is contingent upon the temperature of the GPU diode or what reads the GPIO dinery and then the next score is 67 over six that was plus 80 megahertz then we hit a we stagnated with plus 100 megahertz at 67 twelve within margin of error definitely 6809 now that was that plus I think was that 125 then we hit 68 68 with plus 150 and now we're at plus 175 and eventually we gonna hit a wall and have to figure out what to do to hit our 7400 goal because we're running out of room fast okay Chris carrier five-dollar Steve any ideas when the EVGA 20 atti hybrid will be released and currently I'm using an EVGA 1080i hybrid and want to upgrade when it comes out so I guess that's why hey come sent me that message she wasn't just shamelessly marketing this product she was answering your question but I got them out of order so his answer was the guy from EVGA the hybrid available in October and says it's gonna be an ace tech Gen 6 pump with an asynchronous radiator and card fans that's actually really good news so Gen 6 pump doesn't matter if honest Gen 6 is like some slight improvements to the Wow they have an improvement to the Impaler the Impaler is way better we have a teardown of course there's H 150 I Pro or whatever it's called and if you look up our coarser H 150 I tear down you can see the differences of Gen 6 and Gen 5 and the Gen 6 a Sutekh gen 6 pump is primarily an impeller change and changes to the permeation permeability of the tubes of the the way the loop is constructed so there's some changes within the block of how the water is routed but other than that it's not like there's a performance improvement so that's kind of a downside but endurance maybe is better it's hard to know without testing for you know without years of sample data anyway the rest of it sounds like a pretty big upgrade and then asynchronous radiator fans would be good because otherwise they're way too loud and the EVGA has done that for a while so it sounds like they're fixing that that's good the score 6874 man we're stagnating hard on this can I have to change cards pretty soon I think 6874 that was plus 175 is not a great not a great improvement we need to start pushing the frequence the memory at some point but I do want it to crash first so that we know that core limitations within this particular benchmark do 200 offset no other changes here so fans are 100% that has them at 3700 rpm they are in fact asynchronous with we get a zoomed in shot on this software I guess but asynchronous for this this founders edition card which is interesting to me because he BGA kind of started that with icx and I thought they had patents on some of this stuff I don't know how any of that works but I don't know what the deal is there anyway and video decided to chew into that market and do the same thing they are not using them however and as far as I'm aware the fans seem to lockstep with one another so your GPU and your power fan spin have the same speeds all the time and the power fan will be the one on the right GP is the one on the left so I don't know that they're really leveraging this it looks like it's more of a user thing 200 offset let's do that run custom okay all right so I am going to you I'm gonna read some non super chat for a minute let's make sure we can uh let's see I need to catch up on a couple other messages to all right so non super chat I need to catch up on let me ask you all something this is this is just for everyone in chat not you don't have to pay to answer this question I want to know I should pick a specific question I guess so for people who have watched not just ours but other r-tx reviews what's the what's the general consensus on it let me know because you here's here's my timeline I was up until about two and a half hours before launch so full day working on it set it to publish went to sleep woke up at 9:00 checked it made sure published went to sleep woke up bit later made like 12:00 12:30 and then got back to work so I have not really I checked Linus's review which actually I really liked the things they had to say on there it's great to see a heavyweight like large-size channel like that has someone on Twitter earlier I said it's great to see a heavyweight channel saying whatever they said sometimes whatever are you calling - fat no no I'm not it was good to see them like come out and actually call out the issues I really it whenever you have a lot of media pushing the same point I think it gets the message to the manufacturer in a way that is more impacting than if it's just like a couple outliers because then it just looks like people who are too demanding and for an enthusiast crowd we might be too much demanding the lioness represents a really large audience and to see him be critical of RT X I thought was good so I saw his I saw Jays I haven't really watched the other so let me know that in the normal comments just what's the general consensus I see a lot of them right now so let's see I'm seeing too expensive I'm seeing no by 2080 Ti is a Titan too expensive it's good but not really practical for consumer needs I yeah I like the Linus's review with the 48 ports which with the boxes in the pack has good to 70 percent increase in price for 30 percent performance gains nope you keep it that's that's sort of what we said not worth it at all don't buy okay so I don't know how much of this is your consensus what is the okay yeah yeah okay so it looks like people generally agree on the I'm not seeing many counter points to this I suppose the counter point would be maybe if you're a game developer getting it early is beneficial to you if this takes off because then I mean you have it early you can start building games sooner so yeah a developer's card a couple people are saying I would agree with that as well very interesting okay well thanks for keeping me up to date on what happened in the world today don't bow it too expensive I think a lot of reviewers didn't trash it someone's saying okay cool alright so 69 47 SR score that was with a 200 offs that were gaining in a bit I monitor on the stream machine decided to go to sleep give me a second there 69 47 so we are finally getting closer to 74 hundred six nine four seven that was plus 200 okay so score is an order where I'm just gonna blast room we started 62 46 65 eighteen sixty seven oh six sixty seven twelve that was bad one 6809 68 68 68 74 69 47 goal at 7400 our Titan V previously hit something around 78 36 I don't think we're gonna beat that but you know we might as well go ahead and see it's not gonna be my goal today though do you need to do memory overclock I don't know when this thing's gonna crash like what's the deal I might see a performance increase stop or decay or diminishing returns before we see a crash but that shouldn't be the case so our max clock on this now is twenty-one thirty megahertz which is higher but again that is a peak that's like that could be a millisecond and I think this logs on the second so a second of time it doesn't it's not sustained 21 30 more realistically we are like 100 megahertz below that I think we're probably at 2060 2070 I'll keep an eye on it this run just to get an idea for sustained average frequency okay died well clock for this run 300 megahertz okay it did jump to 20 205 which is the highest I've seen so it did hit 2.2 gigahertz for about a second and then instantly died does not count that does not count as a successful robotics Javadoc back down to 200 we need more power Headroom we hit the perf cab I think oh we hit V rail also okay couple things going on so let's go back down to 200 offset that was stable last time hopefully remain say well I'm going to jump this memory to just plus 800 and see what happens this has a big push let's see if it survives this one okay bill on chalo good to see you around again 20 bucks no message thank you bill on cello bend quickly two dollars would you ever consider selling a long sleeve tops or shirts we we have hoodies but I haven't done just like a straight long-sleeve shirt so I could consider it I don't know how much the man there is certainly would always consider that stuff but we do have just normal hoodies anyway Jason Christoph $15 I'm curious if I'd never tweeted at you The Verge video if this whole calamity would have ever happened so Jason Christophe having an existential crisis right now wondering if I never tweeted that video at gamers Nexus would the verge have undergone five days of crushing horror from internet commenters I know what it's like it sucks but I don't know also they took stabs at all the youtubers before so I guess what comes around goes around but yeah if it was you who tweeted at me and that's when i retweeted it and was like oof then yeah that's I think Kyle saw that tweet bit with Kyle and then it just all went downhill from so don't blame yourself too much they were the ones that called zip ties tweezers after all you can only take so much credit andrea tames 499 2080 or 1080 t is Li I already have a 1080i we've gotten that question a few times I guess I should have considered doing that in the review or something I am still not recommending a 1080 T is li configuration I haven't tested it in like a year okay so if there's more recent data that says ex allies great now it works in most games it's never a problem no micro stutter everything works perfectly then by all means you'll read their stuff and buy based on their so I haven't tested in a year but I tested it basically like every month for a year previously checking scallion it was never good so there are games that do really well with SLI they definitely exist there are games that do 2x scaling their games that do have scaling and the negatives games with your micro starter the games don't know what it is so I can't recommend SLI I don't know if envy link might be different I don't know finn's finess k3 $10 thank you very much pretty disappointed with RT X I have four water-cooled 1080p eyes and haven't seen anything yet on SLI 420 series I guess 10 series will still own the Hall of Fame yeah I mean I think most people are pretty pretty disappointed with r-tx I would say that is a fair statement for sure alright we're still running over here with now a memory offset and the core offset and we do still I think have some of these shirts left it looks like so does it seriously say sold out on there Add to Cart okay that's correct okay cool it looks like it's all fixed all right cool the button was wrong the shirts are in there so we have a couple of them left I think like the button action I said sold out from when when I had it as locked the pre-orders because people bought them all and we were gonna run out of our extra inventory for like QA Quality Assurance stuff like that so they're still there they don't store it at Gabe's next on out the few that were listed earlier I think someone went and fix that button thank you very much okay so 7103 there we go goal is 7400 getting there we started out the the lowly score of 62 46 and we're now at 70 103 that's with plus 200 and finally a memory offset of plus 800 which puts us at what is that 7800 and then you multiply by 2 so that's that's a good start let's see if we can do 900 let's see what it can do I think it was dying around this point in most of our games so we had the step down the OC from what its maximally capable of run that okay oh yeah our distributor messaged me and said you got a text override on the foil shirt button I changed it for you because people didn't know they could buy all right thank you very much sir okay so that's all fixed yeah they're the couple we we had leftover in there and then we're we're done with hump laughter no more on order they're just leftover from the first batch and then we're moving on to other strip designs so if you want one or if you want of our blue beer glasses they just came in last night store that cameras next to Staton that for those okay so nine hundred offset on the memory its GDR six mind you this behaves a bit differently from G five acts and we are approaching sixteen gigabits per second that's pretty cool stock is like 14 I think clock we're at plus 200 we're crashing at 225 I can maybe try 210 later something like that of a really desperate so we're averaging around 20 44 20 55 for parts of these scenes but then it drops down we're at 2000 hours it all depends on the scene and the temperature the temperature here we're at 54 degrees so we have measured starting to see clock drops this is under boost 4.0 it's similar to 3.0 we started seeing clock drops in the 50s previously that would be this over here is our temperature it looks like we crashed too and then we see them again in the 60s we see them again in the 70s so drops at least once if not twice every group of 10 degrees okay so that did not succeed so 900 no good let's see if it does 850 start narrowing down our range of supported clock frequency if you want to follow along at home you don't need RT X to do this of course you can do this on older cards some of the AMD cards are the most fun to overclock and videos lock those down for quite a while now it's actually rather sad especially on the voltage side they claim it so that people don't kill their cards I could potentially agree with that or understand that I should say not agree with it I can understand why they would say that but I I do not agree with the decision and would like to see how mocks voltage and I'm like to power targets because the board can handle it anyway if you want to play along at home you can grab 3dmark they have a free version it's just this is really good benchmark in software they were free version that you can use just to see how yours and compare your score to other scores on their Hall of Fame's you look up the three more Hall of Fame or Hardware bots they both have score tables it's a lot of fun if you haven't done it before no real risk with these cards until you start opening them up and stuff like that doing shunt mods whatever up until that point no real risk so it may be worth your time to grab afterburner precision or some other OC software and have some fun with it if you want to play along for the weekend with our OC testing and I mean as you can see the streams this is really what I'm doing here is not difficult this is a a consumer-friendly approach builds or does more extreme stuff though and we'll get into some liquid cooling stuff not liquid nitrogen but liquid cooling maybe dry ice one day to beat Richie C's score on the Hall of Fame 850 s holding and we'll see if it survives the same spot that died and last time I questioned whether it will okay super chats so last one was from Jason who had an existential crisis about whether or not is alerting me of the verge video had changed the course of history and the next C which had mr. I'm Andrew alright got that one fin squee got you is that Kenny if I'm missing any of these I'm sorry I'm I think I'm getting them all I'm keeping it like scrolled to the same spot is that Kenny $5 when will the Mod mats be back in stock just ordered mine the large one that's like the one that's on the table right here this mod mat I guess the only one it's all right now is already on the way I think it's on a plane in the US at this point so it should be what's today Wednesday I think should be arriving to us towards the weekend most likely maybe Friday and then they'll immediately start shipping out to anyone who's bought one so he bought a mod mat on the store they will begin shipping and these these get back ordered all the time because it's really expensive to make them we're not like a huge manufacturing company so I have to make them in runs and obviously you know you need to take the money image from previous run to fund the next one so they go on backorder but we have not sold through them for this round so if it's still on the store listed backorder item or add the card item then you can get it for this round coming in this weekend okay thank you for the question man lots of questions here today and I'm trying to catch up but also trying to do overclocking I don't have a crash or not okay where where was that question okay here it is All American freedom well make them regarding the hats I think I bought two of the blue and white ones black with a shiny blue is what my daughter wanted me to ask you for we can look into it we look it's a hat certainly we've been talking about it sleepytime 10 bucks thank you much no message and all American freedom again 20 bucks well thank you very much and another one to my nine-year-old understanding everything you are saying that's a I mean I I want to say that's impressive without sounding like I think what I'm saying means a lot because it really doesn't but if you're nine and you're like following along taking notes like okay okay plus 850 megahertz plus plus 200 on the core that that nine-year-old is gonna kick ass kingpin better watch out that's pretty cool okay so 22 or 505 was there still max o'clock we're not hitting that anymore that was just before it crashed 8:50 was stable so this is about where we're gonna get stuck so we're gonna it's talked about at 71 20 we need to switch to the EVGA card now I think we've done we've given the founders edition enough attention at this point it really doesn't deserve this much let's move on to EVGA s let me just save this as scores for a live stream just so I can keep track of what we're doing so I'm gonna shut this down 71 20 we're like we only care about graphics core let's let's shut that down and switch the EVGA card I'll do a quick driver wipe that won't take too long just to make sure we have clean drivers for this and this is the benefit of having actual space in our new office because I guess because Andrew can roll the tripod partly too but I this this would have really sucked to do previously so okay we're just going to switch the car this is the beat-up founders dish in but it has been thermally restored the Shroud however will remain I think it's even on upside-down er is that upside down maybe I don't know I think the Shroud might be on or the nameplate might be upside down but also the name plates stupid so let's get that EVGA card in there is extra thick still a meme so that's still a thing people say cuz this one 2.7 slots or 2.75 something like that definitely a phat card it's got a bigger cooler on it that will give us more temperature overhead or a Headroom I should say so temperature as I've been saying is a huge impact of clocks with this architecture and Pascal especially we're on boost 4.0 of these days and we need to eight pins so I've got that all hooked up just need to clear drivers with ddu and if you don't know what DTU is it's always kind of hard to tell what the general like level of understanding is for our audience I think it's pretty high so most you probably know what DTU is but if you don't know what it is it's a free software that just blasts drivers it's really good at making sure you don't have any driver crowd left over that screws up your future installations and then we're gonna install the new ones okay so ebj tells me 2.75 inches thick th icc so i guess it is in fact still a meme anyway that's the card I've got a current clamp here I don't know I don't think we'll use it maybe we'll use it towards the end but that will just let us clamp the 12-volt cables if we want to see what kind of currents going through those maybe towards the end if there's interest so current score 70 120 yes what the founders edition card and we need to just d2u this now so didi you safemode okay all right so while this is wiping drivers and we install some new ones I'm going to read a few more these comments let me go back to normal just straight chat there's no super chat for a minute hello chat how's it going I like thick GPUs okay well chat hasn't changed see there's one constant in life it's not not gravity not the speed of light it is that chat will devolve into memes and yep there's a lot of extra thick comments okay well it was worth checking all right how how come everyone has the EVGA cards I don't know they shipped a lot of them I guess we have we got Emma sighs like today I think we got gigabyte we got a ACS we have we've torn that down already and we just need to put some thermocouples on it start doing thermal tests maybe tonight so that teardown will go up very soon tomorrow so I checked the teardown frase uses card tomorrow but yeah all right so what else what else is check out for me while we're cleaning the dryers and installing new ones someone's saying it should be 73 hundred plus for the score with EVGA overclocks I hope you're right I'm going for 7400 I don't know if we'll hit it but I think it's just they've barely outside a reach so I'll see what we can do mighty liquid cooling to really do it that RGB implementation on the EVGA GPU is quite a joke ouch no skin off my back but EVGA has gotten a lot of really gotten a lot of flack for that design when they showed it at Gamescom it's like people did not like that acrylic people also didn't let her polycarbonate I think I guess maybe see anything but people also didn't like their their FCW 3 designs either that one kind of grew on me Steve is disappointed in us are any of the cards of the custom PCB I don't know I the yes yes there are the Aces one the Strix one that I have that's a custom PCB I think pills working PCV analysis of that one for our channel so we'll have discussion on it and teardown and testing and all that stuff so yeah that's that is I don't know if the Emmis I when I got is or not okay just inside the drivers now so boring stuff but it'll be done soon we get back to overclocking so we if you've just joined you just came back we've switched cards from a very abused scuffed-up 28 ET I found his Edition the famous one problems video where I had to blast a heat gun at it and pry it the plate is that oh no it's it's become glued again so that one has just gone through testing here with overclocking and it's about 70 171 20 points so we're going for Saudi 400 points there we go okay you ready Andrew you have your safety goggles on so there's the plate that was glued on if you missed the video that's what you missed man what a pain this was to take apart I think the count official count was over 70 screws so the going theory from comments seems to be and I I kind of agree with it at this point the going theory seems to be that Nvidia went for one screw per r-tx op so I think that is how they decided I wouldn't put it past them it seems like the kind of small attention to detail they do just see if anyone noticed I so that's the glue that's left over PCB it's gonna LED controller on it cabling for the fans RGB LED for the top that is actually just green and I don't know if it has anything else on it but like I don't know if as I'm see use or anything like that so that's the card we just used other way is this right side up or upside down this is upside down okay relieve NIT that way just to annoy everybody alright so they read a couple more of the normal chats unexpected delivery delay email from Nvidia on my twenty atti someone says it's that just because of like weather or is that because they I know they sold out of them okay I just got here do you think some of the larger 20 series cards aces will be able to physically fit SLI on an average x4 sounding board I yeah I guess so 2.7 slots it's not impossibly large it's pretty damn big so we have a 2.7 slot card here let's get a shot of this Andrew so we have a 2.7 slot card over here and this one if you kind of just imagine having another one it would work I mean there's you gotta put it there so how are you gonna put it that you can put it here if your PCIe slot lines up oh no I'm touching the components of the computer while it's on and the verge said that these have several hundred Watts running through them so this is you could put it there I guess there's enough space for it to kind of breathe but you're really handing down the case and make sure you don't have a power supply shroud I guess that'd be my only advice to you and make sure your PC I use the slots are very widely spaced okay so the drivers are done installing we can restart now and start overclocking the EVGA card just to the founders edition all right limited edition upside down founders Edition 20 80 T oh that's what we've created apparently okay let me go back to super check this is rebooting right now it's finalizing the driver install quick update for everyone going through all these over and over again but original score 62 46 target score 7400 and times by extreme so we started very far away from the target over a thousand points away and currently we're at 70 120 with this thing and that was with a plus 200 core offset and plus 850 memory offset and now it is time to see if EVGA is additional seven percent power can get us more points and times by extreme so that's this thing right here the power target slider goes up to 130 I'm gonna run the test default first though get us a baseline see where it performs natively but you can see here 130 offset so it does go up a bit higher that should help time spy extreme let's do a let's do a full run just do a full around and see what the score is so that'll give us our new baseline for an after or an adding board partner card all right super chats rollerblader 1 499 is our T accent attempts to make a GPU line akin to LGA 2066 CPUs we use separate systems for ray tracing in my field and I can see them selling to prosumers at that premium yeah I don't know if that's the intention is to create like an h EDT equivalent it's doing that scaling thing again but certainly for prosumers like developers I think there's potentially more I guess value is the right word it's potentially more motive to buy it than a consumer right now because if you're developing and you are making a bet you are taking a risk and assuming that RT X will become a thing that can either sell your games better or an industry-wide thing you'll look bad if you don't have it then buying today as a game developer probably makes sense and is pennies at the end of the day if you make it you make it what did what a fortnight been in for epic like a billion dollars or something stupid yeah I don't I don't know what fortnight's making that but you're making that kind of money it's pennies especially but it enables better graphics but also that's epics goal but yeah I don't know I would agree prosumer focus makes more sense it's just I don't think they're trying to do it they're trying to do gamer focus so it's kind of mismatched Matt miracle $5 just joined in how many birkhoff's are we up to now yes there's actually a joke in the video that I cut out for time purposes about having GN ops instead of our TX ops our new measurement so you might know our TX ops of course is drive-by in 32 plus FP 32 times 0.8 times something plus something else times point two for the DNN plus tensor times point four four than Alice so that's our tax ops we think a new metric is in order GN ops and that is you you take the frequency of the card and you divide it by X where X is defined by the marketing department and they define that based on where they want the card to fall in the stack so that is that is how many GN ops we're running bill one Chavo five dollars it was a division thank you I'm parenting quite far behind on super chance haha dat ik you five dollars are TX on hunting for a cheap 1080i to upgrade my ten seventy glad I waited well for the reviews PS more snowflake we're working on it she'll be in more shots for sure v po hey five dollars a good work like always thank you very much Paul Hawk this is running a test by the way that's why I'm doing super chaps right now 25 PLN I'm waiting on 21st gen can't help but feel like 20 oh I see 21 series can't help but feel like the 20 series is sort of like a beta for the 21 series and yeah I well it's it's new it's a new technology it's probably it's probably testing the waters a bit soo pries cough Aggie or something I don't know sorry I butchered your last name $5 so we'll the reference 20 atti power limits lock the card down underwater more so than the AI V launch cards probably because we are not hitting throw limits thermals are a concern so the GPU temperature is high enough that we don't have like a flat frequency line you kind of want like that boost 2.0 style flat frequency line which would help us sustain higher scores and things like times by be a bit worse for power consumption but who cares I guess the problem is after you solve that and you flatten the frequency by fixing the cooling to stay stable like with water which can tank more thermal change now you're facing power limits so our limit is our perf cap is power so yes absolutely our limit is going to be power and I don't know how much that's going to matter when we put water on these things David now find out though keep an eye on the channel subscribe all that we'll find out $5 Thank You Raj when does Nvidia qualify as a monopoly that's clearly part of the problem with these prices I don't know you're asking the wrong person to ask an economist or something you have no idea how any of that really works or a legal expert perhaps shark comes and friends $5 hey Steve thanks for being awesome does that EVGA card glow completely when plugged in it appears to be glowing at the top of the card right now I think I think that's it this scaling is weird but it's not gonna affect the score it's fine yes it appears to only be glowing at the top the fans aren't spinning though so it is not really having a problem with this test it's sinking a lot of heat yeah no it's it's doing quite fine I guess the fans off but the test isn't lon oh it's on CPU right now too isn't it yeah it's on the CPU test that's why the fans aren't spinning it's not doing anything sorry it's a UH sink to the heat sunk the heat sink the heat and now it is just chilling until the CPU test is done so I ran a full test for this one to get a baseline then we're gonna cut the CPU test next okay so score we care about graphics 64 36 but total is 59 63 our CPU is only at 5 gigahertz not the highest but it's really just for GPU testing so so let's compare baselines here the previous baseline for the efi card was 62 46 this is not hard test data we'll look into this for the full review of the EVGA card please don't take it as hard to test data but we can get some ad hoc test data so 64 36 puts us as the stock versus 62 46 for the FPS let's just do a quick - 62 46 that is not the correct number 62 46 okay / - 46 it's an improvement of about 3% so it's about 3% better in this configuration with the EVGA card and that's that's primarily gonna be the factory overclock I'm guessing it's about three percent better out of the box but that is not good enough to hit our 7400 point target for today because we're a thousand points away presently so let's blast the power to 130 percent and let's blast the fans hopefully they're not too loud to 100% and let's run another baseline and see what does that do compared to the FE card under the same conditions without any offset supplied how do things change let's turn off the CPU tasks run it in windowed mode go ahead and get gpu-z open I guess because why not okay gpu-z excellent utility for this tech power up makes this one okay so that's gonna give us our baseline for a power off set with a fan or a fan max speed 100% speed with power at 130 percent and this is a reference PCB so because it's a reference PCB it is a linear increase so it's 123 percent versus the same baseline on the reference card versus 130 percent versus the same baseline on this card so you have seven percent more power overhead to play around with and frequency is pretty high right now sustained 1935 to 1965 is what I'm seeing just as an ad-hoc site just spotting it no logging or anything right now 53 degrees which doesn't mean anything this is a short test this is not a controlled thermal test but it does mean that we are within the higher range of what boost 4.0 permits and yeah we'll let that run CEO disaster score previous equivalent test on the FE card was sixty five eighteen here so we'll see what that see how we do here earlier I missed it earlier someone said that you should be counting the number of screws in this card and Jigga screws or Giga screws depending on which language you're using or which meme you're using yeah 10 Giga Ray's I don't know how I feel about all that I guess that was part of the formula what - isn't it that's part of the RT X ops formula how many Giga rays does do someone says just tuning in saw a review of the 28 ETA ZOTAC amp extreme or amp showed overclock potential about 15% over what worth the upgrade from to 1080i in SLI I don't know like it's in games whereas law is not supported it's definitely better but so first of all ZOTAC they're 1080i cards the VRM did not make contact to the cooler so that was poor design we talked about that then though I don't know if they fixed that their 980 you had similar problems on ATI but not speaking our partner cards yeah is it worth upgrading it's really more of a question of do you have like 1200 bucks where you're just like I don't want this money anymore it's I have OCD and having this $1200 just throwing off having a perfectly round number in my bank account and I need to get rid of it that's kind of the question and you know if you have like a legitimately use if you're like I don't care what steve says i know what i need to use this card for and i can't get it from anything else that's awesome go buy it because if there are places you can use those cards but generally no i don't think so and envy link is is going to be a bit different we'll test that soon okay 65 80 i got to get some super chats into so for this equivalent test on the efi card we were at 65 18 now we're at 65 80 here so we haven't really gained much from just having the addition power but we have an overclocked Yeti it and also all silicon is different the GB is created different so we can't do a straight comparison 65 80 plus 1 30% and I expands team notes okay so we need to start overclocking this thing properly and okay let's do let's just do a simple same thing let's do 80 we did 80 last time we'll just do the same steps I'm just gonna set the voltage plus 100 so we can be placebo it into thinking it does something and let's run that now to Nvidia's credit Tom says I asked them you know I said prove me tell me that I'm wrong is it a placebo slider and he said it is not and he explained why he disagrees with my belief on that in our interview with him with Tom Peterson if you wanna track the interview it's got an explanation of what the voltage sliders supposed to do as a user as an enthusiast it doesn't really feel like it does anything so I don't know it's they tell me it's not a placebo but I certainly feel like it does nothing all right Jason Christophe 499 GM pocket knife with actual PC building tools yes you need to have pocket knife to build a computer and hopefully it has a screwdriver hamburger buns $5 how did you all get affected by Florence football as well we got a lot of rain we're fine thank you though appreciate it I put one of the plants outside so I could get some rain water so that should tell you how severe that's okay more than five dollars how can rate racing succeed with it having such a low user base due to price that's a great question it's going to require it's a top-down movement so if Nvidia can play their cards right I guess you're hoping developers get the cards you're hoping that next generation like the 2060 equivalents will get rate racing features tensor cores whatever whatever they do at that point but yeah it's the same problem AMD has if you have and it will be this these cards are TX cards today are going to have lower market share of course then all of a em these cards AMD has trouble getting developers to optimize for their hardware they have to do a lot of the work for the developers so what's gonna happen here it's even less market share how do you convince a developer to build for it well probably some kind of MDF maybe an agreement where you provide Hardware maybe provide some engineers to help develop the games and NVIDIA has the manpower to do that they've done it they have software developers who can go out to the game companies and help build the games you see it with other technologies Nvidia's pushed in the past so it will be a top-down effort in order to get any kind of architects adoption I'm not saying it's good or bad I'm saying that from a video standpoint that's what they're gonna have to do is get engineers at development houses get agreements in place and start building games with it and fast because the technology is out for consumers now and there's no games with it so yeah it'll be tough that's running a benchmark with the XC Ultra EVGA card we already did the EFI card talk about that more in a moment Gianni 641 two dollars thank you very much when is the EVGA ex one out force plebs is it not out yet I don't know Jacob if your watch and text me and tell me if there's a planned launch or if it's already out for precision x1 for the the I guess everyday the the non media users is what I'm looking for the normals that's that's what it is alright okay so I'll keep an eye out for that if you updates me ninjetta Steve $15 I'm bald can I have some of your hair that's a rather shape for they just couldn't like lose some like patches on a couple places I think you could probably get like you know like like some kind of wig or something that doesn't involve my hair $10 from Matthews manifestation live no count with that one Thank You Matthew for the 10 bucks 67 13s are scored times by extreme graphic score 67 13 score target 7400 scored to beat 71 27 1-3 that's with a 130 off percent power target max fans and what else did we there 80 megahertz 80 megahertz on the core plus 80 megahertz okay so we have quite a ways to go to get back to the queue grab me some water please my voice is going thank you so we were ways to go to get back to the 7120 that we had on the F E card and right now we're at 67 13 times by extreme let's go ahead just bump that to plus 100 and Andrew behind the camera we'll be back in a moment hey these needed water can't speak anymore benchmarks times pi extreme all I've done is plus another 20 megahertz didn't do anything with Fe I'm just curious to see will it do something with this because it didn't really do much previously so if we get to like 67 15 then that'll answer the question thank you okay what's chats an new sponsor Fiji water I mean hey if you work for them I'd take a water sponsor I guess over like a hardware sponsor just because it's completely unrelated well no that's not true we'll be shills for water cooling forever Fiji forever the course of Fiji's company history will change by sponsoring us which they're not presently it just to be really clear by sponsoring us will will slowly convince them to get into liquid cooling and they'll become the new worldwide supplier all the all the water use in your open loops for the fusion will come from literal mountains because it's more pure hey what size shirts out the quickest I think a large and Excel for us all right what are the other cons official water cameras Nexus okay so super chance Michael Romero any plans $5 thank you watch any plans for a darker colored mousepad I love my triblend shirt and its color scheme goes great with my PC so that is that's awesome thank you for supporting and grabbing one tribe lines are actually I think our most popular material so we have other ideas for mousepads we don't have an immediate plan for produce for manufacturing them but we have ideas and they do involve darker mouse pads yes not sure on the sizes yet though Alex $10 so Steve 528 ETI or wait 430 atti I hear the new gen actually has tiny people inside of it for hyperrealism okay I thought this was a real question for a second and then then you reminded me that we were on the internet and getting comments from the internet if it were a real question let's just say it is first of all will be the 30 series or only will be 2100 series that is what I want to know chat using your clairvoyance that you often have when commenting on our videos what will the future Nvidia video cards be called let's take bets now will reave all take an ad hoc tally of what's the most popular and then in a year or two when they come out I can I can declare who was right so I've got the first vote 2100 and I have some answer from EVGA on other questions to you someone says 69s he's next three thousand twenty one hundred it'll be 30 atti LTX 420 okay that's not that's not gonna be a thin 1180 that'd be a good one go back to GTX 11 series 21:xx 3000 sears again I'm getting half and half right now come on chat don't let me down I need a firm decision here 21 atti and x-series you heard it here first folks Steve said to wait for the r-tx GT 38 ETA it'll leave 4000 series to convey the confusion for everybody so alright we're seeing more 3,000 right now than 2,000 okay I'm gonna call it there so in a year or two when the new cards come out I want everyone to remember that you all as a group decided it would be called the 3000 series so when all the rumor mill articles start going up that says 30 atti rumors and it's not called that when it launches I want you to remember who was responsible for the for catalyzing that name 6775 for the score was that actually an improvement I don't know it was but very little so 67 75 our previous score 67 13 score to beat 7120 target score 7 400 so that was plus 130 percent max fans and plus 100 megahertz so we did go up more than our previous 100 megahertz offset on the founders edition card but we need to get along more than that because the founders edition cards stopped at 70 120 let's let's quit playing around here let's just go for 150 offset and then 200 and see what happens then we'll start doing the memory 150 for the offset now are just jumping by 50 megahertz see if it holds see if I want a GNX 2080s will we'll get into manufacturing video cards posthaste so a high priority of mine speaking of manufacturing things taking lessons from Linus on those integrations the GaN cobalt blue beer glasses with the gold rim are back in stock finally and hopefully they stay there for at least a little while I guess but those are on store I Kara's exit on that if you want to grab one we have them in groups of one two or four discounted as you increase quantity why do gamer focus target products look so tacky well you know just say that but I've spoken to some companies about this so it's not true anymore but for a period if you don't want to argue it was like the only thing anyone spoke about at CES and we actually stopped covering some booths because all they had was RGB and it was enough if you remember that during that period I had companies telling me that they would see Plus like 40% one side plus 60% engagement on Twitter which is of course all the only metric that ever matters when they had something with RGB versus not so when will they stop literal gamer product stop looking tacky and I guess this this I would not say this looks tacky it's like Nvidia is trying to do an Apple thing I guess I would say it looks good it's certainly not very functional but it's fine but I know what you mean by tacky and I think the answer is as long as people buy them in greater quantities than other sleek designs there I'll keep looking that way fractal is pushed pretty hard on the sort of businesslike look and they seem to do okay but there's still a smaller case company by all measures so tells you the audience size because there's this big fancy cases I have a lot of plastic they're super popular for a while all right Alex $10 got that one petrol head two two two six one dollar thank you very much silk monkey two dollars best GPU ever and why is it the Buddha three PCI it is the beauty three PCI because you gave me two dollars and it seems like you really want me to say that it is so so that's what it is next one super villain three two one two dollars I hear you might be might need a table for your next build yes typically I just have Andrew or Patrick or someone just hold the components like the case and then we build the system while someone's holding it actually we put it on someone's back and build the computer there but ever since that Verge video came out man has changed everything I didn't know that didn't know you could have a table but has a weird comment that they made I don't know why they did that tools you need for that like okay it's enough it's enough with like the bashing The Verge video but also tools you need for the job oxygen in order to stay alive a table you should probably have have functional arms and hands like where do we stop with the needs why is it the table five dollars mod 989 do you believe the power limit may be specific to the kuda part or the FP use of the GPU so when RT x or tensor is active they increase the overall power limit that's an interesting question I wish I had a good way to look into that right now do I think that the power limits specific to the kuda side of the GPU no I think the power limit is specific to the GPU like the whole thing and how much power is drawing they have hardware monitor sensors on it now they have like what I figure they call it I something for current they have current monitoring now that's a bit more advanced in the previous generator always had it but more advanced than previously I think it's just for whatever the GP is drawing but I don't know I look into it 68 68 that's a familiar score wouldn't we hit that we hit that exact score previously with the exact offset that's not a good sign with the fe card or the 150 offset 123 power not 130 we hit the exact same score now there are some variants here 3dmark times pi are not perfect they have a lot of error we ran it again we get a slightly different score but let's keep going see if we can get it to crash let's try just 200 okay yes I need to start the benchmark all right so we're going for 74 hundred points and our own score to beat is 71 20 we're at 68 68 currently on the EVGA card we capped at 71 20 on the fe card from nvidia dustin f $10 thank you much 100 Hertz plus 1440p ultra wide monitors are the arguments for the 28 ET i going from 70 FPS to 100 FPS is a nice improvement better usage case than pushing for 60 FPS 4k in my opinion yeah they're they're marketing in general is kind of weird that chart the 4k 60 chart where they're just like it's like 20 80 TI 2080 1080 TI 1080 and there's a line that says 4k 60 so and and we know that the 2018 the 1080 are the same we know that 20 80 TI is like between fifteen and thirty two percent better than at 1080i depending on the game so what is the scale on that chart it's gotta be like thirty to seventy or something that's crashing that's not good so yeah I would agree there for K 60 push was an odd one especially because 1080i really did that the ultra wide use case is an interesting thing I have not benchmarked ultra wide in a while now we can look into that again chase 499 why'd I include the 28 why not include the tight Titan B and the benchmark seems like an interesting comparison it is we're doing a separate video on it and I didn't include it because Nvidia got us the cars and the drivers on Friday and I had a lot of work to do just on those devices not including rebuilding the Titan B with the air cooler because it's under water right now and then re running all those tests so it'll be a separate piece I've had it in mind but it's got to wait a little bit so we crashed here this we just stepped down the core offset the keep in mind the core is boosting a bit higher than the FE card so we've got that going for us the offset means more it's pushing it higher than the FE card offset was if it's boosting higher in general especially because the thermal advantage so we need to start pushing memory and hopefully this over clocks like crazy on the memory because that's what we're gonna need in order to actually get some progress towards our score all right hmm $2.00 tom's hardware just called 2088 TI the titan v killer yes that is that's what everyone cared about everyone wanted a killer of a $3,000 card targeted for compute users its youtube visitor $10 well the RT acts 20 ATT i also make a good hair cooler maybe a hair dryer think it it's a little on the warmer side wishbone five dollars you know Andy Navi is gonna be a bit more powerful than the 2084 way less the price I have a feeling a huge undercut jab to the face of Nvidia's I don't know that I don't think anyone knows that so yeah I'd be careful with like the careful with the the promises on Andy like don't put any more pressure on them they have enough let them do their thing don't don't decide their performance before it's actually even like a card alright let's launch this again hopefully this thing over clocks a lot for the memory oh and I had an answer from EVGA earlier on something - I see what that was someone had a question or I had a question so they said oh we have precision someone asked us women's precision x1 gonna be available tomorrow is the answer for the beta for the public and someone says someone apparently someone in chat so they had a pre-order issue I don't know if I haven't gotten to that question yet but my EVGA contacts I guess all your questions had for Adam with the pre-order issue say he can contact me and I will help him out if he is still interested jacob f as spelled as it sounds jacob f @ eb g a comm he's on Twitter - Jacob Freeman I guess he'll help you out I didn't see your issue but I'm glad he did ok customer service I guess fans Mac those smacks those out again Power Max I don't know man o'clock I guess let's it crashed at 200 let's do 175 see if that crashes and then start pushing memory and will engage the placebo slider benchmarks times by extreme disable CPU around windowed click outside click back ok what's chat saying spam is email no don't do that it's trying to help out the guy isn't literally EVGA it's just trying to help out ok so what are your thoughts on pairing 28 ETI with the 7500 k it depends on what you're doing I guess if you're gaming then trolly a bit overkill on the GPU side you're gonna well I mean not for 4k it really came in at 4k I guess that's fine Steve how long or oh man lots of questions in normal chat now consensus overall seems to be that most triple-a titles will run a pretty solid 60 FPS so no these running 4k settings max this is true I guess yeah I mean look at our benchmarks but also a 1080i you can do that too like it's yeah it's better but do you need an anti-aliasing like blasted do you need post-processing all the way up do you need grass effects all the way up like how much of these effects do you even notice when you're playing the game if you start tuning some of them down I would wager you won't even notice a lot of the differences some of them are way more heavy hitting than others like texture quality but and mesh quality LOD scale and stuff like that that matters but even a low descaling though now stuff gets farther away really don't need to see it that badly in high detail so I would yes the 20 atti objectively is superior to all the other cards on our chart other maybe I haven't retest them some of them on the Titan B but apparently it's better than that too so yeah I guess I guess it's better at 4k 60 but you can achieve that with existing hardware I don't know if the price weren't 70% higher I would have a way easier time saying that it's worth picking up today like if it were eight hundred bucks maybe even nine hundred even though that's still price creep maybe nine hundred but a thousand to twelve hundred it's it's too much it's there's half of half of the cards aim isn't even usable right now RTX does nothing they're a press tech demos but we set all that in review okay any questions and there's stuff in super chat - I'm gonna try and catch up I have to scroll up a bit there's so much I think I'm like an hour behind on super chats but there's a lot of them I appreciate it thank you very much just give me some time okay we got the video three question and got the ultra-wide got the Tom's Hardware thin hair coolers they hand alright where is the most recent question I'm being told apparently Andy announced Navi for 2018 or something I guess that's cool I yeah I've been buried and office moving and testing so I didn't see it I know they were planning now be in 2018 like years ago I just wasn't I'm not sure the current like what's supposed to come out for Navi first okay $5 Gandalf says seems the consensus for RTX gaming has been reached any plans to test rendering suites that use ray Tracey and like Maya v-ray IRA etc I figured with a name like and off you'd make you shall not pass count regarding the price but I guess this works too yeah we do out we we have loose plans but we're not testing that stuff yet cuz like blender needs to be updated still to support it that's on Blender side 69-62 is the score that's a plus 175 so we're stable we're stable at plus 175 and no memory offset yet plus 175 is stable 6960 we need to get back up to at least 70 120 to be where we were on the efi card let's just push this to 800 and see if that's stable I might need just more cooling for this I don't know might be a PCB with more with a higher power limit to near that ACS card once I reassemble it okay so that's gonna run we're gonna see what we can do goal is 7400 points score to beat is our own because I'm only looking at our own 7120 I'm sure someone's got a kingpin kenan has a higher score so he won 20 on this thing that was plus 200 plus 850 offset the offsets are not necessarily linearly comparable because that card it has a higher baseline clock so keep that in mind but yeah certainly 120 is what we need to be at think it back to where we were 279 from rock your socks off 420 when will you be able to test enemy link soon the mage 500 yen is that when will you be making a bigger mod patch what that's Excel to the Android crowd and XS to you iPhone folks okay now I get it did they really call it a bigger phone XS seriously why that's so stupid I don't pay his engine Apple sorry I missed it Sean O'Shay $5 just take the raglan hoodie design and make it into a long sleeve we can do that I guess smarter mm OH $2 RTX SLI have you tried it even for fun soon Paul Lewis 20 bucks no comment thank you very much Paul bill on chavo $5 damn that card is thick exclamation question mark one exclamation exclamation it's pretty phat 2.75 slot maruko-chan $5 well the 2080 TI is useful for me as deep learning programmer there we go there we go we got some real use cases will it be useful for me as a dl programmer will I have to get a Titan V what's different in the thick shake art think EVGA card is phat earthy really cooll Ian's better it's the reference PCB though the vrm is the same if you watch our vrm analysis of this one then you know the vrm on that one that's pretty good but the cooler is different we need to test to see how much different it is what's the advantage so we don't know yet how much better it is thermally but we shall see how it does not work like I guess it has a plus 7% higher power target but you kind of run into questions of who has the better like where you buy 10 cards they're gonna have a different frequency well frequency behavior so there's some silicon lottery there too I play alright so this is running plus 175 and an 800 memory offset and if you missed it the GN beer glasses are back in stock which I'm just gonna mention every time I pick it up because my voice is dead 59 degrees presently which is good so in our testing if you missed the review we found I think there was a point at 62 or 63 degrees where we had some clock drops we're at 59 here so the clock is going to boost a bit higher than if it were at 63 where boost 4.0 kicks in and starts dragging the clock down with with the temperature in it it seems very aggressive - do you really need to drag it down that much before like getting closer to your max I don't know 7116 so we're almost there 70 120 is what we want to get to it to get to beat our previous card 7 116 now it's plus 125 plus 800 getting suspicious of if we're gonna do 7400 today but let's let's go ahead and boost this memory I'm gonna try 900 see if a 900 offset on the memory survives times bypass okay so previously we got we have a lot more people in chat now than previously so the beginning of the street I was talking about the shirt you probably heard about it before the the limited edition foil shirt we when we did the last big stream at the the house before moving this was up for pre-order because we wanted to see how many we'd go through to figure out like how much extra do we need to reserve for things like potential loss during shipping for example we've had some stuff just through USPS where we get lost on the way to Australia when people buy stuff and we always replace up stuff so if you had that problem let us know we'll replace it for sure but fortunately we didn't have any of those problems I don't think maybe one we didn't really have any of those problems so we have some extra inventory now we're releasing it because everyone got their shirts at this point or if you didn't and it was lost email us immediately so we can replace it for you but we have tracking on all of that so you should be able to see if it was delivered and we can check for you if you're not sure anyway we released the rest of the inventory there's not much of it after this after it sells through that's it we're not doing another production run so this is just the leftovers at this point that we had for quality assurance and for shipping overhead but that's on store documents access not now if you wanna grab it just just pointed that out for the newcomers the stream so this is chugging along it hasn't crashed 900 offset in the memory so we're at 7,900 megahertz x - roughly for our comeback clock is at 175 offset let's keep an eye on this this time and see like kind of what it there you go 420 that chats gonna love that why is the computer feeding into chats demands uh-huh 2025 1935 so it's gonna fluctuate a bit I think we're gonna say crash 200 I think we're gonna try and push like 180 185 it's not like that and see what we can do later and if I stop screwing around with that our scores will be a bit higher too but it's not that important okay check in all of the chats what is what is the chat saying what do you got for me chat has NVIDIA beat AMD in terms of raw or compute now they actually have decent async I haven't done just like it's like compute workloads it done gaming workloads so I don't have a direct answer for you I haven't done you know I compute work like Dustin what is this a thousand stone from from oh in DIA here in India due to 30% import tariffs and profit margins the ten ATT I still costs over a $1000 USD this may be a very rare case where the new 20 atti is actually a decent value because for some reason and Vidya isn't charging me the import tariff yeah I don't know how the tariffs work there but the I guess the point that stands is if you have 20 eighties in your country and 1080i is in your country and the 1080i is more expensive than just the 28 is the same in terms of performance I'll probably get a bit better with drivers don't bet on two more don't bet the house on it but get a bit better and its newer so it'll have longer support going forward so yeah if the 2080 new is cheaper than the 1080i new in your country I guess just by the 2080 instead between those two cards specifically the 2080 is cheaper than a 1080i than men I don't know that like I don't know that that kinda seems like an easy choice to me if you have that money to spend and you were definitely going to buy a 1080i then yeah 2080 I for the same price is a crazy good deal if that's the case in your country I don't keep tabs on pricing it globally but you know all of my comments I got to keep in mind that I'm working off the u.s. prices but if it's the same price for cheaper is that's uh I guess go for that I don't know if it's a good thing or not if it's more expensive on average and probably not but okay so 70 135 we've beaten our score probably uh from the Effie cards that's good we're getting somewhere so EJ's actually ultra has officially overcome the founders edition and that was at plus 175 and plus 900 I don't know how much higher this memory can go before it starts freaking out and crashing or throwing artifacts let's do 950 I'm getting kind of hesitant towards there then we'll try and push the core of hit more so we've beaten our Fe score that's good that's that's half the goal today I'd like to see seventy three hundred I said 7400 target but I'd really like to see 73 board is a lit someone says bleh oh yes right because we were at four 20 megahertz during the loading screen earlier board is lit blaze it 420 blaze in okay a I confirmed GTX 420 smoke tracing all right very good Chad thank you never let me down never never fail me don't change except for well sometimes sometimes maybe it's worth it okay Hudson ye $5 is there a way to benchmark tensor cores it's a bigger reason for me to buy it and it's a bargain for deep learning absolutely I'm not qualified to do it but yes maybe an intense or if they don't they probably will do them at some point they're definitely deep learning benchmarks like I've seen the software and videos done demonstrations using it it's just we don't cover that stuff so I'm not gonna pretend I even know I have no idea like I know that the software exists I just don't know anything about it so I'm sorry but it exists so I hope that's not for you to go look for benchmarks because it is out there I've seen it used and in tech like marketing demonstrations max Cowgill $5 Steve can you get David Cantor on to do a deep dive on Torian yes actually we are planning to try and get him out to the office at some point and we have some content ideas one of them would be like walking through the block diagram for Torian for example and explaining how do you read this what is it what are these things mean why are there even G pcs why are there T pcs and we talked about that in our architecture deep dive but David Kant is a definitely an expert in the space and give you really good answers on that so we are planning for something like that $5 message retracted thank you very much anyway the court meant $5 to use HDMI or DisplayPort which would you recommend I use whichever cable is closest to me I think DisplayPort is is typically what I work with but it depends on your monitor like if if there's actually a point where you're hitting throughput limitations then check the specs on the cables make sure you have something that fits I don't keep up to date on those though Marco Mascaro $5 I don't mind the EVGA design what I'm wondering is are twenty two pins actually necessary on the asus strix 20 atti 22 pins what is that in reference to oh the fan is that the reference to the fan I think they told me why that's there we might have it in the teardown video if we don't then I can get it for the review but one thing I did like about it and this isn't public yet but when we open the card for the ACS one it opens like a book so it just goes like that and the cable can stay completely connected because they use the sufficiently long one that's on the end of the board so I really like that it's a really small feature I don't know if that's what you're referring to specifically that's what jumps out to me 71-65 it survived all right we've got a chance got a chance of at least seeing 7300 today we're past the founders edition card so that's about to start we might do it not I don't think we're gonna do 7405 we might 273 say 165 those that plus 135 plus 950 how much more does the memory have in the tank we're at a 950 offset on this thing let's not push it too much to 975 it's at 130 power target so EVGA 'he's got enough some advantage there but we might need a like one of their FTW 3s or some other full cost and board to get some more power into it or mods don't let me down EVGA I need more points it's the only thing that matters on the internet who has more of them let's see EVGA he's a I had Jacob says here comes the world records score nope but thanks for trying to flatter me I'm not gonna fall for your tricks Dennis $5 any chance you'll do a deep dive on DL SS when it becomes relevant yes absolutely I'm really interested in DL SS and what's the Odin called MLA a thank you DL SS MLA a very interested in those I think it's actually it's one of the smartest overall ideas and video had for this launch liked the idea of using deep learning to figure out how it's super sample and and how to do better anti-aliasing so you're synthesizing pixels you like sampling the screen and you don't need every single pixel there you just kind of get most of them and then synthesize the ones in between based on the pixels around it that makes a lot of sense to me and based on the frames previous and after so it's temporal so I think the technology is very interesting and we'll definitely look at it I hope it gets some adoption on a wider scale because it is probably one of the more interesting things on videos doing this launch and it's just it's getting overshadowed because there's nothing really with it yet but absolutely very interested in it $2 jennifer roger one of our patreon backers $2 hi Andrew don't we don't yet have any don't yet have any of the Andrew memes from last time the what was it andrew is the best 3d 3d artist and camera man of all time or whatever that was a good one Anthony labcoat $20 love your channel wondering if you could do a comparison between SLI scaling using envy link versus conventional HP bridges I'm still waiting for my pair of 2080 T eyes in the mail want to know how well to work yes sort of we can't put come back screen died I don't come back we can't put a celebrity's on Envy link obviously but I am doing ad me link testing I guess I'll do some SLI testing too while I'm at it but I don't have the same cards you have you're talking about 220 ATT eyes Fe cards and I'm gonna be mixing and matching cards so I don't know if that'll even work we'll find out soon it may be tonight or tomorrow horizon Walker $5.00 thank you very much no message coup de coeur $5 what are your thoughts on pairing 28 et eyes of the 7700 K think I got that one I don't know if if it was like later but if if you're running out like really high resolutions and it's not a cpu-bound game I guess that's okay I you're gonna run into bottlenecks at like at low resolutions that I CV bottlenecks 7156 is that lower that is lowered we're at 70 165 before so that frequency didn't help us we're starting to get into diminishing returns and margin of test variants do 185 on the course you know that does it's gonna crash at 200 so any more cooling on this I think you'll hook up a fan blast it blasted in the face and I see I can grab a fan anyone ii think we have what can I use for this I guess Noctua why not look better we have like higher rpm fans but this one won't blow out the audio too much just too big for those holes and get one in there okay so we're gonna we're gonna add a fan of this just in case you could do a soon on fan or a maglev fan need a screw power supplies crews okay we're just adding a fans of the test bench right now if you're wondering where I went a screw so I might want to put a faster fan on there but this should be okay want to go in there's a fan header down here where's my fan Hatter and that's kind of far away Jenny an extension cable - all right Syrena had a fan just to crank try and get some extra cooling on this thing I think it needs it at this point that's not the right screw for that you get an extension cable on the correct screw and then we will see if adding a fan can help us out at all with this so many chrome axe cables let me just just like what am I supposed to do with this this is what Noctua sent us once at which we very much appreciate but man this is a lot of a lot of fan extensions okay so need a screw and then we can install that fancy that helps out our score looks like the test is surviving by the way I think I put it up to 185 offset so I'll actually got a bit more score hopefully and now the Fen this is the advantage of the new offices it's much easier to do things like changing Hardware on the fly during a stream okay remember to always wear an anti-static bracelet when you're doing this this is doesn't need to connect to ground it just uses Chi energy a fan cable I don't know what speed these headers are at right now hopefully it's 100 though okay a little bit of extra air not much but it's something any any any degree will help right now 71 83 so that was stable we're getting there I want 7300 I want to modify my u-haul to be more realistic to modify it from 70 70 470 370 183 that's at plus 185 Plus 950 added a fan take a note of that I need to get through more Super chats in a moment he's not fighting static he's fighting cancer yes sir ever until the LIVESTRONG bracelet RTX bracelet oh there are a there are a lot of The Verge comments right now okay 71 83 let's see if I don't know let's try let's try 190 I guess we're gonna crash sin might as well try 195 when it crashes there I want everyone to send an F and chat for respect because it will 195 offset 935 on the marryin not 959 75 is that even G a cooler being very loud I'm not in a position to objectively measure it right now I yeah I need some I'll measure it for the review I'm not gonna spit a number out there cuz I actually don't know yet you're not supposed to push it off before it dies stress to wait got to wait for it to die for it to pay respects to it jumping the gun now okay apparently f is for The Verge I miss I didn't know that chat started this there's more apps now all right okay it's running for now super Jets mm-hmm Chris Smith $5 cancel my 2080 pre-order glad I did have a beer on me Steve thank you very much hey I mean if if if we save you some money then that's good I like if you already had hardware you're happy with of course we also want to show when people should upgrade if it would help them but it's not always the case so I'm glad it helped you Alex Garcia $4.99 expected VR games for 2080 I've been told by the Internet's that it is significant and we do have the capability to do objective VR testing it's done it in the past most recently with the 1700 r7 versus 7700 k-man it's it's a pain to test though like setup that software is non-trivial but if there's interest I can look into it the problem is I don't have the newest to VR headsets we have the original vibe and whatever the Bach ulis rift was the came with the touch controllers so is that stuff even relevant anymore like that I know there's a new vibe if I have to buy that I'm gonna lose money on the content so I don't know horizon Walker $5 has the software supportive Envy link been added I don't know I have heard from another reviewer that they're having a lot of trouble with envy link but I haven't validated it myself yet still alive you all prematurely pushed F just like I told you Jai axle gaming $5 purchase GN beer glass and core temps have significantly improved thanks Steve I also copied your frame the wafer idea nice so oh yeah and lighting it up that'd be kind of cool too so frame the wafer idea if you missed it this was on our just kind of a test livestream test dream please ignore for our fan mail segment and we actually bought this one but so Patrick cut this out framed a fortunately arrived like cracked and shattered they're getting good reflections on that this is a this actually has r-tx on right now so yeah it arrived like this the only thing with r-tx on and it still looks fine they're like this one's good these are cut out so you can buy these on eBay for like 20 or 25 dollars or something the wafers and just buy like a shadow box we're gonna put on the wall at some point but this just back here for now but it is a cool piece of I guess tech art ish for what we do okay 72 33 men we're climbing fast now I really thought it was over 72 that's uh it's there's a chance thought it was all over so our new goal I changed it to seventy three hundred our original go is sunny four hundred our Titan V score of 78 hundred seventy eight thirty six they're not hitting that but that was heavily modified and also Titan B so it did a lot of work for me so let's see if we can let's see if we can get past this I don't want to see any EPS out of you until it actually crashes this time by the way it's uh it's from that so it's just two hundred I only did five megahertz because previously added two hundred offs that had crashed so I want to see that happens again or if that was a fluke then maybe adding the the fan might have helped there a lot of Epson chat right now I I specified for there not to be EPS and chat how many hours have you put into testing in the past week PS I was the guy who asked about gtp at the epoxies panel oh cool yeah that was actually one of the best questions at that panel probably the best question of the panel so that is from Cory $5 thank you very much how many hours in testing I think I kept track up until yesterday so how many days was that Thursday let me go through it having an office that means that I'm keeping track of the hours which is probably bad Thursday that was Furstenberg embargo was the 14th so Thursday 22 hours Friday 14 hours Saturday 14 hours Sunday 14 hours actually kind of late Monday I think that was 16 and then Tuesday was when did I start on Tuesday remember I don't apply 18 hours or something on Tuesday maybe 20 so whatever that is but all the other hours were sleep says okay don't worry okay so this is running it's not crashed damn it okay good didn't crash you're all you're all pushing for that F F is making it pass okay wow you must sleep in the office I have done that Steve Reder wall art plan can I send you some s GI stuff that'd be cool what kind of yeah I mean s GI is is an interesting company for sure they spawned Jensen and NVIDIA so if you have SGI stuff that you don't want you have no sentimental attachment to you are welcome to send it along the P o box is open it will remain open for at least one year and of course I don't plan to close it so you're welcome to we are probably going to do like another fan mail thin stream at some point because we have enough boxes to open and we sell all the CDs out happens on the art yet I'm gonna go through like the next group of stuff that came in I know there's some core memory that's really cool and we appreciate all that thank very much but the planet I think someone had an idea of doing a pixel art Jeon logo out of CPUs which is actually collide yes so we might do that I don't know maybe just like over there behind like the frame shirts or something not really sure like maybe up there I don't know let me know what you think chat feel like a pixel art cpu GM logo or like maybe put it off over here we had a had our poster videocard poster here but it was reflecting all the light so let me know what you think it was kind of the going plan though did it die it might have might have made it I love fan mail videos yeah I think I'm thinking like monthly just as a live stream okay just came in how is it going okay so let me give you the recap I lost your name sorry it's called up too fast so for the person you said just came in how's it going my original goal today was 74 hundred points and we started with the founders edition card we ran a baseline test I have all the notes here I'll run you through it quickly baseline test on this meaning no overclocking at all we're ignoring the CPU just graphics score was 62 46 points I wanted to hit 7400 so we had 1200 to go ish 1150 and then I offset the power 122 percent with max fans that put this thing to 65 18-game 300 points just from that time of spy extreme then we offset the core 80 megahertz 6700 points offset 100 baggers 67 12 points not a gain really offset at 125 got to 6809 skip a few steps here eventually started doing core memory overclocking got it 270 120 points on the founders Edition now with EVGA s card which is the XE ultra it's a reference PCB it's the same as the other but it goes up to 130 percent power inside 123 and it's got better cooling and I added a knock to a fan in front of just a blast air in there which seems to be helping actually and now we are at 72 21 which is actually downgrade from the previous score of 72 33 so we're kind of within error now this point is that 200 megahertz or what is that that's the 200 Hertz offset previously we crashed that offset with a 925 memory so we're trying to hit 70 300 I've modified my goal I'd still like to see 74 but I don't think it's gonna happen so we were going for 73 today and we're at like 7 2 2 2 or something like that let's just see if it will crash that's what I'm going for now so let's do 210 and see also if the score stops decaying that would be nice this will kind of confirm what's going on there so that's a 10 megahertz offset additionally everyone is doing the EPS again when does the stream end it ends when I hit 70 300 damn points and times quite extreme ha ha all right what's the max frequency achieve so far that's kind of a trick question because the max frequency is not necessarily the well it is not the sustained frequency so the max frequency was 22:05 megahertz which is very high but it immediately crashed after that doesn't count we had like 2130 2115 stuff like that not sustained that is crashing not sustained sustained is closer like 2070 in best cases 2080 yeah so that did not survive with a 210 mega Hertz offset so your theory about F saving it Ron it's just gonna reboot I think I can push the memory some more though okay let me check all of my other all my other notes okay has the got that question already got that question it burns when I pee great five dollars from them I pee of course being as an Internet Protocol very clever there how long do you give it until someone changes the bios much in the same way as Vega 56 or 60 forward to get a higher power element that's hard to do with Nvidia in that they don't allow it so you're better off with hard mods with that with Nvidia stuff unfortunately we might try like a shunt mod I don't know I don't know if it works anywhere though builds orders kind of questioning that I think I don't might be still in chat but he seems kind of skeptical of whether those would still work all right so that did not go over well just go down to 200 see if that's even stable still you know I'm gonna do 195 and I'm gonna try and push the core the memory excuse me to 1000 and just see if we instantly lock and crash and the fans spin up again that's good okay times by extreme nope nope when hits her do graphics only every time spy extreme okay times by extreme graphics only and they will windowed actually to full screen graphics only please okay see how that does Jesse foster $5.00 Steve can you turn the h 500 P into a litter box with an art heap Cooper what what's that mean I think the answer is no Brendan $5 just got a foil shirt awesome Thank You Brandon like I said we we just put whatever we have left over from the it's a couple things so we ordered extra wow they're almost all gone actually yeah they're gonna be gone the stream so we are we had the orders up I don't know month or two ago two months ago locked them to make sure we have enough left over for QA for like people who wanted to exchange sizes if they bought the wrong size it didn't have too many of those and then also in this don't know if it's interesting or not but we've learned that when ordering shirts if they are custom sewn like these are custom stitched to our own spec it's not just like a guild in shirt or something so on a custom stone that means that you're buying a certain amount of fabric and you can either buy over or under so we knew how many shirts we wanted but then there's some variance you might might be 10% variance if they say they have a 10% chance of like screwing some up and they throw those out so we order over that way we for sure have enough to account for like lost mail for size exchanges because it's a percent based system so if we're like trying to buy a certain amount of larges and we know like okay we want this many larges because typically people buy a lot of large a lot of X a lot of 2x but not the other sizes we have to order over so it's partly partly that but primarily we we had extras for size exchanges and not many people had those sorry those will be gone soon enemy link bridge big enough for SLI with multi slot cards and that was from a fan to for DRR there's an enemy link bridge big enough for sli with multi slot cards yes you can buy different sized unrevealing fridges you can buy two slot three slot and I think maybe a four slot something like that it's just like Castle high bridges I on seven seven nine nine $10 and he brought Steve you saved me from a poor purchase thanks for upholding integrity versus pleasing a company for industry favors and perks like a lot of reviewers out there I mean I get are you saying that said a lot of reviews are pretty critical of this product so that was good to see most of the reviews actually we're pretty critical this time so Linus J and I don't know what what the other said but Linus and J I watched check Paul's Twitter doesn't Paul s hardware except on Twitter he's just Paul Hardware cuz Paul Paul's Hardware on Twitter is a literal hardware store Paul what's he saying I can't see it 73 63 what card is he using what Oh seventy-four twelve take that Paul hashtag rip Paul apparently Paul tweeted at us I hope he's watching right now Paul are you watching tweet at me or something hang on guys I need to take him can so what can everyone just are you zoomed in on this enough everyone do me a favor take a screenshot of your screen right now and take a screenshot of that tweet it at Paul Hardware not Paul's hardware that's a hardware store Paul Hardware and do hash tag rip Paul our IP Paul if one of the moderators in chat can help me out hashtag rip Paul and you can send an Athlon with that too Paul tweeted at us and said f hashtag ripped GN at gamers Nexus and he apparently is overclocking at the same time which is very fun thank you Paul for doing that 78363 you should get on stream man 73 63 points he got well there you go Paul 74 12 so rip Paul let's let's keep this battle going that's awesome man Paul if you're watching thank you for joining in I haven't checked chat that was a busy telling everyone to spam you so I don't know if he posted a hidden path in chat now don't post rip Paul and chat you can tweet at them how am I supposed to spam the guy if you if I'm doing it all alone rip Paul no F given nice no no the hardware store it needs to know all right so we we hit our original plan of 7400 what did I have to do what happened what's even a thousand megahertz apparently on the memory 195 on the the core I should probably take a screenshot of this before we do the next test and crash at all so they just take a note so we hit our original goal and passed it 34 12 that was with plus 195 plus 1000 130 percent power okay what did Paul do on his I don't know if he sent it Paul is plus 925 and plus 178 and I oh he's on the ACS card that's a custom board so that is certainly something we need to look into as well switching to think it's a custom board I don't have pcs in the custom one does that run - oh man yep there we go the Twitter bridge okay well I need to screenshot this before it's gone forever and then we're gonna try and keep going Paul if you're watching yeah he is watching he says this isn't over it's just starting everybody Paul are you streaming feel free to share your link Paul apparently says this isn't over it's become a battle now where is this is this how you have beefs Paul is this a beef I don't know how to beef haha all right so let's I forget exactly what screenshots Hardware bought requires well let's just get a bunch of stuff not that this is impressive or anything but a graphics card we don't need sensors need a graphics card we need CPU Z a bunch of of CPU Z's so we're at 70 for 12 so the original goal has been acheived it was 7400 throw down a district yes he says I'm I'm only just learning to be myself Paul has in Chad thank you Paul for joining the original the original goal was achieved and this would be nearing the end of the stream under those guidelines however we must now defend our honor against Paul Paul are you using a custom PCB is that a C's card custom piece of years that reverence I don't know we gotta like organize this next time and get multiple media battling or something alright this is this is pretty cool okay so screenshot needs to be done we need CPU tab open I mean memory and I think we need mainboard I'm pretty sure that's all they want and we need the score but I don't have a full score though just grab it's actually I can't even submit the score whatever that's fine I'll screenshot it for myself memory K mainboard okay this will help keep track of our own settings for the future I guess let's get this kind of in there okay cool that did not do what I want it to do let's get this over I don't have any space left on the screen for the streaming good enough so 70 for 12 and for the record graphics 147 5/7 FPS graphics 240 308 and and then we need some more o'seas on here to here there we go fit everything finally paint save rip Paul number one because of course there shall be multiple okay all right let's get all this stuff out of here and then let's let's go further so I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say we got our original goal the goals have been expanded has Paul said anything else honey I don't think he has I need to check I was looking away okay all right and I have a lot of super chats three two I'm sorry okay so has he Paul keep keep me a keep me on the loop on your progress I think we're beefing so I think I think this is how you do it it's normally very friendly as far as I'm aware benchmarks so 70 for 12 Paul was just Paul score to beat was where is it you've all spammed it off my Twitter feed it was like 373 something he was at 73 something it's gone it's gone forever 73 something so we passed that but I need to need to make sure I can sustain a lead here so we are using the EVGA XE ultra which is a reference board with a better cooler and Paul is using an asus card so this has now become we're dragging HDS and EVGA into our beef our turf war of east side versus west side and I'm going to push this up its profit crash immediately to 10 20 megahertz on the memory will see memory seems to be impacting this more than anything which is not surprising there's times by after all so let's give that a go see how that works this time beer glasses by the way store not gamers max has done at the restocked I've been wanting them for a few weeks they are back now in quantities of one two or four with discounts for higher quantities and all right so we're battling with Paul is he he's not streaming is he Paul's hardware is that your YouTube URL yes I don't think he's streaming right now we'll have to Paul will have to arrange something in the future and see if we can do like a dual stream or something like that alright I'm glad someone responded to my rip challenge to Linus or so evidently a different youtuber altogether okay so five dollars Gabriel how do you theorize envy link will work for these r-tx man there are a lot of question about envy link I need to test it I don't know it's got way more bandwidth that's all I know right now AEK adsr five dollars I need to know now I know I need to get out of this 980 90 I though maybe that's in response when I was saying if you know you need an upgrade or something take some software solutions ten dollars the more you buy blank blank blank blank it's mad libs the more you buy the more your the more you cry five dollars Bobby patter fun crypto pricing game Nvidia all the data they needed on what the market will tolerate on card pricing yep attack it $2.00 message retracted thank you anyway Adam Meyers 20 dollars I'm if that EVGA oh your question was answered so you said you were miffed at EVGA you pre-ordered a minute one and then after your credit card info and checkout you clicked by and it crashed so you about a cease and you never owned any card other than EVGA so yeah he answered I don't you probably saw it this is a why it looks like an hour ago now but email Jacob f @e BG a Comi he'll help you out storm is even two dollars are using a 79 TX eat no he's in a DAT 6k that's only have five gigahertz previous livestream for overclocking here at like five point three five or something two dollars most into I'm at which Power Ranger were you growing up I don't know the trick question feel like I'm gonna get in trouble no matter how I answer that Matthew account $10 do you think this release could be planned step two new cards and eight months as an a refresh on 10 nanometre fab kind of like what they did with max while the Pascal yes I think it could certainly be a snap in like a year to a better card did it crash yes crashed into so it crashed into but it crashed gracefully which means that it is a memory crash because that is a memory intensive benchmark and it did crash gracefully so that's good let's get on ten ten megahertz on the memory so if you're just joining or if you've been here a while our original goal with 7400 I didn't think it happened I dropped it seventy three hundred modified the goal and then immediately after that we got 74 12 which was good timing because that's right when Paul tweeted at me rip TNF with a 73 something score and now Paul I think is responding and said this isn't over so I need to keep an eye on his Twitter as well check in check in chat the more you buy the more of your life can be ray traced yes that is certainly one interpretation Paul said my ambient is 82 Fahrenheit man 28 degrees Celsius that could be an issue e yes that could be an issue and now that you have exposed your weakness to me I shall retaliate by lowering the temperature one degree Fahrenheit game over Paul give up while you still have dignity I think our ambient Slyke 71 by the way so yes that's a bit unfair I guess time to put a test bench in a vacuum chamber 60 FM coming yeah that'd be good just spend $500 on air conditioning and just just to beat Paul Oh Paul the gloves are off people are saying the more you cool this cooler you get get excellent quality comments all right so that's not holding we might be kind of stuck on this card I don't know I don't it's really not much more I can do here no not 500 ever thought I'd be very bad I can't do a lot more with this this card if Paul responds with something that outpaces this score though I will already built that Asus board we have on stream and let's throw it in there it's Paul live I don't think he is but he was in chat and if you guys don't know who Paul is I'm sure all he do definitely go to his channel and subscribe he's a pretty straight shooter on reviews and we like that like that very much from the YouTube community doesn't look like he's live see yes thank you so one tweeted at me Paul's comment in chat that actually helps a lot because it gets buried go team Paul man get that out of here go team Paul I think this is in coming studio upgrade for Paul so he can turn the temp down to beat your score is there general access to precision ax 1 yet I have a pre-release version but x1 comes out tomorrow and beta for the public as far as I've been told as of today so you'll get it soon what does that say about I missed it whatever okay so benchmark outside at night in the desert yes well he doesn't live in LA he's got a better option at that than we do looks like we crashed I think we think we're done on the on the offsets here that was that was a cork core crash did not like that completely frozen so it is stuck at 195 okay all right so let me get through some some chats and stuff like that while I think about if we want to do something if we have other options for overclocking this mm-hmm other than turning the AC down to 60 degrees what results are you getting with the auto overclock I don't know we're gonna test that at some point but I guess we could do that here it's not gonna be as good as manual but I guess as long as it's close enough that's fine for most people freezer ice cube chunk mod I don't shunt mods work anymore okay so all right so anyway getting back to some housekeeping stuff while this figures out what it's doing with its life screen is higher res than the bench yeah so this is that's not offsetting that results or anything that's a valid test it's just scalar issue shunt mods should still work people are saying okay we could do that kiss opponents that anyway yeah we have let me check the stock we had a couple oil shirts in there of all different sizes I think was excess - extra small - 4x there's probably mostly gone now let's see we still have 4x shirts we have like a couple left we still have 2x couple of them we still have XL larges are gone medium is almost gone and we solve all the extra small so he ordered extra small just because it was I don't know figured we'd cover all bases and I think we've sold like one so those will be there forever haha but anyway not many laughs pretty much it's all gone at this point - X we have the most of those are on stored our cameras X has done that for the last these foil shirts release the leftovers of of our overstock that we held for shipping purposes so Paul's score I found it it was 73 63 and then we hit 74 12 so he's actually not that far off Paul could kapal could come back he's got a chance hich he drops that dis track he might get it I I think we're pretty stuck here I'm going to do a little bit more playing around with this but I don't think we're gonna get anywhere beyond where we already were so let's just let's just see what happens here I don't know we could I have plans for this card anyway so those will help us increase the score but I would very much like to do it more on the stream although we did we fish give our goal she's getting greedy now because I want to make Paul turn his air conditioning down by one degree every time I do it okay that's no CPU test run custom do we have any background tasks no run Kosta let's just see if it survives so anything I can do on the cooling side of things probably maybe a little bit like get another fan I'm gonna get get another fan maybe just set it up as an exhaust above it or something maybe like a 140 before setting up like the 3000 rpm soon on fans I say those for special occasions is this gonna clip yes that will definitely not be good for so let's get out the secret weapon clamp and then set up an exhaust back here if I can that's the wrong direction exhaust that shouldn't clip a little precarious considering that's leaning on a power cable it's not really a rigid body okay please don't please don't grind the fan blades knocked wire cables sir short this is why we have so many extensions see super chats I see him I got to get to them I see him there and you're probably picking up fan noise in the mic right now sorry just plugging in an exhaust fan that crash andrew is that up still it's up still I'm being told all right that's not that's not great oh there you go it's it's spending itself there from the other fans is making this one spin it's not plugged in cool that's gonna one of those blades is gonna get destroyed by the end of the night when it like eats that metal clamp stay don't all right think we're good don't touch the table if it works it ain't stupid now I I think it's stupid it's still stupid but what CPU is at eighty eighty six k WC currency dollars thank you much I don't know if Paul has said anything I was busy plugging a fan in alright so if you missed it Paul joined in and started a blood feud we achieved our goal 7400 points but now we must fend off Paul who is trying to take the crown and roost putting on safety goggles in case that fan blade II it's a metal metal shell all right I just want to see how this does if anything tragedy strikes when a rogue knock to a fan explodes do you thought that question sergeant Zeta 888 got my revolt ex dual system powers by a head of launched by accident should I leaked info sites yes contact video cards and WCC F Tech and ask them how much they'll pay you for the information because I'm very curious very curious how how low does the scumball leakage go von Neumann machine $2.00 if you had to buy today 1080i or 2080 prices in the US 1080i cuz I can get a better a good partner model 1080i so 1080i is my choice $150 cheaper 100 maybe kind of catching up on these super chats sort of Marciano Manhunter 99 thank you very much can you help me a trade zero to Samsung m2 drives on my asus rog rampage six extreme having problems need help what kind of problems tweet at a wendell from level one text he's good at that stuff and pretty responsive on twitter definitely give him a tweet i don't know what problems you're having Steve be that's not it's not me five dollars do you think drivers will help with twenty eighty performance and will graphics or video programs use your r-tx technology drivers will always help it's brand new card it's not gonna like it's not gonna make it 30% better in all games it might make it 30% better in like one game if there's one where it's dismal but oh a nice 7432 climbing we're climbing it's going back up that one degree drop in AC and the fan on top was ROC here I don't even know 1,000 fighters getting like really nitpicky now 1005 megahertz on the memory and 195 on the core so really we're just doing this with temperature decreases at this point not even the offsets anymore that might be a might be about all we can do I kind of narrowed it down as much as I could so score standing is 74 32 I'm just gonna screenshot these two windows there's only two that oh that's got a CPU score too they run a full test oops screenshot these two windows okay paint please okay so this is just gonna be my I'm just stacking em over Paul now just in case he responds sorry 432 I'll just see if it'll crashed even with that with the temperature lower maybe it won't 200 it's probably done I think that's it to quote King pen professional overclocker when his Robo clocker was having trouble surviving at the end of the day at Computex kingpin would get it going kind of working and something would freeze up or hard walk or something you know she's done ski Steve she's done ski and then proceeded to run around to the other side of the booth play around with like the internals of Robo clock or his automatic overclocking ellentube machine and that'd work again guys a guy is an expert he's a lot of fun to do overclocking with by which I mean watch Brad Craig ten dollars just got power back after a week in Wilmington happy to watch without charging off my UPS thanks for comprehensive content helped when the lights were out and the water was rising I really appreciate that I am concerned if you're like sitting in your living room and the water is like up to your knees and you're like I have 15 minutes left of this do you have video I isn't so long but thank you though bazinga axe five dollars how many power supplies have you shorted out how do I guess we've plugged put most of them into systems without rubber bumper so I guess that's all of them Thomas Brown Smith's and okay $50 what cheap you are using when you suggest 20 atti or 980 I for casual 1440p no 1080 in there huh I'm doing full system upgrade and I can wait to get all the monies if you can wait to get that much money I guess a 20 atti is objectively better but for 1440p and you said casual 1440p totally unnecessary you'd be fine with like a 10 series or a 980 I'll do it to Fiji water is for water cooling Steve $2 Denis hybrid it shows how far back we are in Super chats and hey someone says Jen vids are worth it with regard to sitting in floodwater watching a review vibe I accept no accountability for any personal harm that comes from that get your cameraman to blow on the video card I don't I don't think that's gonna do it at this point I am curious to see if we can get anything else out of this though it is kind of cold in here now so that's probably helping a bit prices here are nuts the 1080i in 2080 are both at the same price 900 euros yeah it is a bit high is this rappels ET tube went out no we're gonna have to do something better for that but it will come alright so it's still going if you missed it earlier like I've been saying we've got the mod mats they arrived I think Friday ish maybe Monday they write to us on that day so that's the the modding service I have on the table here it's an anti-static modelling service it's got like power pinout stuff like that it's a product we made are very proud of it and we believe it to be very high quality that arrives the next shipment of them because we have to do them in batches arrives close to this weekend and if you order if you have ordered they are still available so they'll be shipping out as soon as they come in to us which is the next few days and we'll carry stock up until obviously they run out we'll order some more hopefully a bit before then so those are there the beer glasses were restocked and the last of the foil shirts I think they're pretty much gone like the limited edition the largest are gone they'll never be restocked that's it for those there gone the mediums have two left's xl's have a few left two exes have a few actually two exes have the most left right now for exes there's still three three exes three extra smalls so so I'm apparently bought two of em thank you no one bought extra small we had that we ordered them just in case and no one wanted them anyway that's what I got for you for the the store 74 35 what was our previous score and is at one point higher seventy previous score 7432 so we're three points higher that's what we're fighting for right now we fought for five megahertz by dropping the ambient temperature it became a game of literally lowering the thermostat to increase this overclock and also putting more fans on it so let me just walk you through the setup I suppose the setup as it stands now and we have to be careful because you touch the table too hard this fan will eat that metal clamp and die and I should be wearing safety goggles so I I love these test benches specifically because the metal ones are really cool the open bench tables but I love these because they are it's just like I don't know what kind of plastic it is but it's a plastically a nylon or something and you can you modify it really easy so I screwed in these clamps on it previously for the Titan V and left them there and then we can mount fans in it that just blast this the GPU so that's providing air straight into the card which helped significantly I'll check our thermals on the next run just so we know the temperature range added a fan up here for exhaust off the back plate which is helping keep the backplate cool it's a metal backplate so it is sinking heat so that's helpful and for the rest we have an ax 1600 ie power supply underneath we have an ACS Maximus ROG board the Maximus 10 hero 8086 K CPU at five gigahertz which is a lazy overclock that one can do 5.35 and then a 32 gigabytes of vengeance Alpha X memory at 32 hundred megahertz with the kraken X 62 cooler so that's our set up for today and our score is 74 35 I'm going to do one more thing I think we can call the score here unless Paul responds and and beats me but I think we can kind of start calling the score I do want to run this and see how our do our temperatures compared to previously with those changes that were made midstream that's what I want to know now so I'm just going to monitor the therole performance time spy okay and we'll zoom in on gpu-z I shouldn't launch that in a windowed mode gpu-z and read the GBO temperature as it's running benchmarks okay no CPU tests windowed mode no CPU test run so let's see what it does for temperature as this runs because the question is how much did that help those changes and it's probably what got us to this this final score of 74 35 and okay so we got got some super chats still to go through I don't know how many there are here all right Jason $9.99 with you mentioning and asked Jian roughly late winter of this year what the that the new architecture was gonna be touring how long have you actually know and that terrain was going to be the architecture yes so we knew that a little bit ahead of the public I think since about November of last year I knew that would be the name and maybe October it might be October so about a year because the the rumor previously was was ampere I think was the rumor 51 degrees right now now mind you this is a really short test it is not a thermal benchmark you should not expect this performance because it's it's short it's targeted but we're at 52 so it is actually a good bit lower we're like we were about sixty previously without any of the AC support or the drop and the added fans things like that so 54 53 let's see what it climbs to frequency is directly impacted by temperature on boost 4.0 so every couple degrees we see scaling at like rough maybe 710 degree I wouldn't mapped it yet but 62 degrees we see a drop 62 63 C drop in the 50s we see a drop at like 71 or so 79 84 and then 87 let me see hard drops so that's kind of the frequency scaling and for thermals and having that extra cooling power is what got our score the bit higher we needed it plus I went fullscreen and stop doing windowed and that helped as well that actually got us a significant amount of points you're probably gonna see this score will drop I bet so my constantly tabbing between them its windowed so I score is 74 35 we're going to call that the final score I think this is probably going to be lower that's what I'm what I'm curious about so 74 35 probably the final score Paul if you're listening I'd love you to keep keep up the fight with your clocks if you missed it Paul tweeted at us Patrick came out told me check Twitter Paul tweeted at us it's ripped gnf and seventy-three something points and immediately our score finished and you pointed it out to me as I was looking at Paul's Twitter page and it was sunny four hundred so we've got a beef go ahead now yeah hopefully Paul responds as he he continues working on a his testing I mean told Paul hit a wall which yes we are also against the wall at this point I will keep plugging away after dinner damn it Paul why are you not closer to bring some over yeah so score drop check that out I think the and this is not news anyone who does overclocking but or 3dmark 7200 versus the Saudi for what was it Sony 74 35 so a lot of this is because I'm like tabbing the tween stuff and its windowed and so that ate a lot of our score early on I think which is a something I should keep an eye on in the future okay so a big shout out to Paul Thank You Paul that was fun for joining you can check his channel out he's Paul's Hardware on YouTube and he has Paul Hardware on Twitter because his name was taken by a literal hardware company and no they don't need to know about our overclocking score they really don't so let me walk you through everything today I'll try and do some of the Super chats and I don't know how many there are right now I'm afraid to scroll down because I'll lose word my places let me walk you through the stepping today so we started with this on a recap it for everyone really quickly start with a founders edition RT X xx atti this one right here from Nvidia this one took some abuse from us when we open it up previously but it's fine thermally so we restored it before rebuilding it just looks worse for where that car started at 62 46 points so our graphics baseline 0 changes applied 0 overclocked in 62 46 out of the box and then we increase the power target 1 22 percent to 1 23% excuse me with maximum fan speeds that got us 300 more point 65 18 so a bit of a game there and gives you an idea of what just changing the the fan profile or primarily the power target will get for you don't even have to overclocked next 80 megahertz offsets sixty seven oh six points our goal at this point was still seventy four hundred points which we achieved by the way sixty seven twelve points was next there was a plus one hundred offset pretty disappointing at that point I was getting worried that we would be stuck 6809 with the plus 125 so hope is restored and then 68 68 on plus 150 which we later saw on the EVGA XD ultra that's in the bench right now we got 68 74 with a plus 175 offset 69 47 with plus 270 103 with a plus 200 plus 800 on this so that is when we started getting we got a rough 200 point gain just by overclock in the memory plus 800 megahertz so that is with time Speights this has been known for a while now times wise very memory sensitive and I believe its second test but it's one of the two so that got us 200 points 70 120 was the score to beat on the founders edition we could not get further than that without like maybe adding water would help but that's where we were stuck that was plus 200 plus 850 then we plugged in the EVGA XE ultra and that one was 64 36 and Jacob if you're still watching Jacob from EVGA we've done you proud we got the card past the patterns edition at the end there and I should run this again with a full-screen pass as well so 64 36 stock that was a bit ahead of the founders edition stock and then eventually we got up to plus 200 on the core plus 1005 on the memory with a 130 percent offset and I was 70 for 35 points which also was aided by dropping the temperature one degree just to show Paul that I have the power to do so because we're not in California so thank you thank you for watching all that stuff let me let me read through some of the super chats as we wind down here but we are doing a lot more tests we're gonna be doing it live stream soon so if you're watching now take a note we're you doing a live stream soon of I have a couple in mind but primary one is building pcs or production pcs for the office and I'm hoping to do a multicam export to use.you so we'll have like multiple cameras streaming to the same stream at the same time through a cool feature I haven't seen it use much before Achievement Hunter uses it and the way it works is well have multiple cameras set up for different like different angles or one on me one on Patrick building systems and absolutely multiple people on on the screen at a time - and you have the power to switch between the cameras as the viewer but keep the same audio feed on the same channels it's really cool we just learned about it recently I don't have a date for that yet I'm targeting hopefully first half of next week because we really need those production systems but we'll see maybe like maybe Wednesday again it will do something like that so keep an eye out for that twitter.com slash gamers next is to make sure you you get a reference to or check the top comment I always post a pin to top comment on all the videos and if there's a stream I know a day in advance coming up I'll post it in that comment so check those for the next couple days or so I'm gonna read a couple super chats but first thank you all very much for watching that you were the super chat think your picking stuff up on the store we greatly appreciate it it has substantially helped offset the moving costs because they were significant so this stream in the last one you all have helped us greatly and in synching some of those moving costs and now as you've seen the last few days it's been non-stop content production for technical content so we're back in the swing of things more efficient than ever thanks to the office space producing a lot of cool stuff super chats so we had bazinga 10 bucks treats for a snowflake thank you very much she would have taken the money anyway she does oversee of course all the financials we got it scrolled it's gold it's all gone I try and scroll up I'm working on it so I see a lot of verge references in here that seems to be the thing right now ok so I got that 888 message already here we go so I'm roughly where we were I'm gonna miss some of them no okay got it Aaron Benson ten dollars so is this the bottom line here I should keep my liquid cooled Titan V / a22 Ti what about 220 ATT IDs in the bridge don't know I'm testing that soon so yeah if you he says I came in true 4k with a 120 Hertz monitor will test it soon Titan V is still like one of the best cards you can own so do you really need to make that change and we'll look in the end viewing testing mr. Friday $5.00 I'm looking for a white 1080 TI would you recommend the gigabyte 1080i gaming OC knowing that a RS cards are the premium from gigabyte a horses like their entire brand now but I haven't tested that specific card I can't explicitly recommend it Nathan Kota $5 the shirt that I ordered during the last livestream arrived today any speculation on a for when and the e responds with rate racing tech of their own well first of all thank you for getting the shirt I don't know what am these plans are they've done like rate racing as a marketing thing in the past so I'm curious to see if that gets a revival now now that there's this this push from Nvidia but I don't know what the response is gonna be I do hope they have it response though because this 20 launch has been such a mess that Andy has a serious opening to make a push and we'd like to see more competition by which I mean we'd like to see AMD gets get closer to equivalents with NVIDIA and market share to keep the market a bit fair Gustavo $20 hey Steve how does the r-tx behave with video encoding same hardware as previous gens were improvements there was an improvement actually NB encoder - talked about this actually we didn't cover it at all in his review they talked about it briefly enemy encoder got upgrades and it is now supposed to be better overall video quality than previous generations so if you've been using software encoding with CPUs and being code is supposed to be at this point closer to equivalence with those especially rate like h.264 fast or something like that so I haven't tested it but it is supposed to have an improvement yes Romeo 5 well ante analyst snowflake join the stream just right there man next to the fire extinguisher is it hidden behind the monitor that's the closest we got snowflakes never been allowed to join the streams the test bench is open she caused problems to jump on it she'll see that it's not an AMD product and try and sabotage it so we can't have her here for the for the live streams five dollars out of Meijer do you think it's possible with the driver for tensor cores and DLS s to be used exclusively for rasterization just for games that do not use it for tensor Cordiale SS to be used for rasterization d LS s is super sampling I don't know no I'm gonna go with no but tensor cores are not really meant to do that and I don't I mean if they could be used for rasterization I think we'd see it already being used that way because it give a it's a large part of the die size so to give a performance off lift that they need hard core Jason $2 what lowest possible price can we expect 10 80s probably like 500 bucks maybe 4 but I think 5 is probably bout the lowest I don't know you have to look Brian Giovanni $5 a times pi it says custom what changes did you make to the default extreme so I can compare the only change I made if you want to compare to what I was doing here and Irish scored the comparative would be 74 35 the only change I made originally was running it with the CPU tests off and the purpose for that is because I knew we were only doing graphics testing so all you do is you go on to costume you disable CPU test and you can just run the graphics test way faster saves a lot of time petrol head do you know when you're planning on testing on vlink yes very soon very soon hardcore Jason plans for a Halloween stream no immediate plans for one of those David Allen $2 why no I am the test bench with new series cards we used the fastest CPU so that there's no bottleneck Gandalf $5 you shall not pass Mary Tech miss Steve I guess I guess it's technical had to Iris gamers access hair wigs for our Bald's companions please on the store no immediate plans on theirs get a bit weird Caillou cats you ninja $5 turn the voltage plus zero percent it may help for sale voltages let's give to that $5 mr. Ebert we're getting through the super chats really fast now getting close to the end I think are you going to look for at SLI at all I heard our Teac supports and relink yes we will revisit man there's a lot of interest in this we'll get on that tonight IB Mike thoughts on 1080 t is live verse 28 yeah I've answered this question check back really soon now that I see the absurd level of interest here I'll start on it immediately but I do know that some media we're having troubles Mario $5.00 Linus is pissed about the way Nvidia did this release do you agree what's your opinion on the new Asus Ryu and ryujin coolers I think those coolers are largely gimmicks but I would agree with Moe I don't think there were any points I explicitly disagreed with Linus on I thought his video was very good and he just got a tweet or a text from Keegan who works on the camera sometimes that just said nerd with the screenshot of me standing here so he can hahahaha I don't want to tell you oh oh yeah I would use our customary greeting of dual middle finger fingers but I think it is inappropriate for the stream so well I'm just pissed about the way and videos of the release do you agree yeah because and video was extremely disorganized for this launch it's like crazy because they don't have a media pressure from AMD's the pressure is just from my customers they know holiday season's coming up it's all self-imposed pressure for the most part there are external factors but NVIDIA is deciding to crumble to those factors and push a product that wasn't ready which is exactly what Linus said and I completely agree with him on that statement I thought their video was very well done for this launch if you haven't watched it and you're like Linus gross I would encourage you to watch that one because he has good points he talked about some stuff that we didn't and you have to remember Linus is like he he is very good with the business aspect of this stuff he's got a bit of a different perspective and that skill set of his is is leverage very well in the content piece talking either in videos positioning in the market Andrew cruise $5 Wendell at level one tax we putting out a deep learning bench that's cool so there you go there's an answer to that question from earlier Sandman 24 blue $5 notice that the fins are blocked between the fans and from the back yes so on these founders cards I think I talked about in the teardown but they are in fact yes very typically the way the way air works is air is coming in the fans as you normally do and it's got to go somewhere and so the only place to go is up and out and down a bit but up and out is obstructed by this embellishment on here and all the other embellishments on the card so yes and Jay talked about that too there are ways that this design can be improved and video for whatever reason goes really heavy on the looks I don't know why I don't know if it's like they want to be like Apple or what I mean it's got 70 something screws in it too so yeah yes there is a blockage kind of in the fins and anyone who by the way is tuning in towards the end here we did achieve our goal of 70 400 points we hit 70 435 on times by extreme with an EVGA XC ultra 20 atti card Paul jumped in for a bit he beat us we beat him and we're waiting for him to respond so that was kind of the end of the overclocking portion here I'm just going through the rest of the Super chats Martha gets $5 a major Australian parts retailer has the 2084 1500 AUD where's 1080i at 1200 so I guess the 1080i would be worth it down here yes if you're spending that kind of money anyway and it's one of those two cards it looks like you according to you save 300 bucks Australian that's that's how it's good to me the 1080i is a 20-18 so far as performance today that might change as they push drivers things like that it could change but it's not going to change that much so yeah I would say the 300 bucks mr. Friday second try looking for a white 1080i do you recommend the white gigabyte gaming OC yeah so I answered that one earlier and I know that Galax have some white cards as well you could paint one yourself I haven't used that specific gigabyte card most of their cards of that class I know which one you're talking about they're normally fine I don't know how the vrm contact is or how the V arm quality so you're just looking for like a white 1080i honestly it's not gonna matter that much like we're not doing anything crazy with an overclock you're not putting it in a hot box case it's probably okay five dollars a ek a GSR is there is this a thermal difference for the advantage or something else when overclocking this thermal difference is a big part of why we got the square we did the windowed mode was a big big part of why the score increased so much there was like a hundred plus points so that was a big deal as well chip quality between Paul and my chip that that would also impact our results but I don't know whose is better right now we didn't really look into it wen Hsiu and five guys do it live hashtag that is what we were doing i'll stream commands i roll it good to see you again commands our commands are loaned us the Titan X originally years ago which was awesome he he we had no access to the card he shipped it to hotel we were staying at in London cuz he lives in England shipped it to that hotel and we had like a two-day window to grab it so had all awayand I got it we were there for an event took it home mailed it back and did all of our tight necks testing on that so commander thank you for that I will not forget that $2 though and asked are you able to do a shunt mod on the 28th yeah I've been told by chat that you are I have not tried it yet Samsonite's dove 50 DKK if you're not having luck OC and try using irrational numbers considering the cost it would be fitting well played that was a good one well played Oh Shack Shukla 400 I don't know that currency symbol what value if any is there if a basic non r-tx non f e 28 ET i cost approximately $1,500 here i've always purchased the best consumer jeep year since antiquity but this time even i am forced to think is it too much that's that's interesting that's interesting to me because that shows that nvidia is potentially pushing away they're getting into a territory where even their highest end buyers like I don't know man that's a bit high is it too much yeah it is too much it's too much it cost too much their price is way too high on it so I yeah I agree with your thinking that's exactly the thing you should have and hopefully and video will figure it out and drop it silver $5 so where do you think the 2070 will land above 1080 no idea I can't remember this back to the 2070 it's been 20 80s and TI's all week but I would assume closed yeah I don't think it's gonna be that impressive bill want Chavo $5.00 tell Andrew he has a good cameraman and 3d modeller there's the meme that I was trying to remember earlier the one that started the two streams ago $5.00 David tally anyway how many more of these are there I gotta like highlight this one any idea if extra GD DRH p.m. we can be used as additional RAM love the content great work extra GTD R and H p.m. as like system Ram no I guess there's like oh we go there's a lot of there's like heterogeneous memory stuff that a and he was doing with AP use and and cpus and gpus a while ago I don't really know the answers not really Jeff housing or $20 this channel is great keep it up I thought the GDR six had error-correcting pushing too far amaze a great performance is that right I have to check on the air correct thing but pushing too far does degrade performance on most of these devices because like at some point you do actually it might look like you have a thousand records offset but can be like spewing memory errors and you'll eventually hit a crash so yeah pushing like if it's stable and it's not crashing that doesn't mean it's actually producing good data and can drag the scores down if you do an actual work with it not benchmarking it can cause problems there 2 shens o 85 $5 do you think ray chasin will make a bigger difference to immersion in VR than it will to gaming on a monitor I'm gonna go with yes on this hypothetical but it's a hypothetical because VR is already so difficult to push adding like ray tracing to it I don't know I mean I guess is if it's all done off core or off out of the FP use and it's just on I'm like RT core isn't answer then I guess it's doable but yeah I would think so I've been told also that the twenty series is better with VR than ten series I haven't tested it I don't know if I have like I don't know if there's enough interest where it too large from boom the viewer The Verge guy called PCM are a group of angry nerds I mean he's right like that is kind of what reddit is comprised of yeah seems accurate Marco Mascaro asus strix 2080 TI has 22 pin oh I got that one already oh you mean 22 pins like for power is that what the question was earlier that's not right is it to eight pins in one six pin I have to look at the card I don't know one second let me look I'll show you the Asus Strix PCB while we're on stream still here I need this card does it no it doesn't have 22 pins it's got to whatever help bring it out there anyway so it's to eight pins maybe it's a different board that you're talking about I don't know all the boards yet this is the one that I have though if you want to see it is it really how many people are in here right now one second I got to put this down so we have a teardown coming up on this card tomorrow but you got a preview I guess if you if you hunt out and chat this lawn you get some cream some extra information and it's gonna be the POW 3,000 people still here that's cool thank you so here's your preview for sticking around we very much appreciate it but that's the PCB and already did the teardown that's coming up tomorrow I guess I'll delete this yeah that's coming up tomorrow so it is a why this is the one flies been like God in the office has been living here for two days now so this has a custom PCB unlike some of the others we've looked at it is it's got a split piece or vrm just like with the reference design that we saw but they've rotated these two which I talked about this in the video tomorrow on more depth but it's for a future design and I can't can't say more than that right now the it's missing the same memory module is the others if you keeping track or you're curious like K is that a k1 it's k1 skew on the die and it also has two eight pins it's got that big that is not twenty-two pin so yeah you guys Wentz been talking about something else when you're asked about twenty-two pin earlier sorry I missed that it's got these fan connectors over here it opens up really nicely like a book so they stay connected you just pop them out it's these are like the safest I've disconnected recently a lot of the fan headers kind of stuck on these things that are easy to break and I think that covers most of it we build joys working on a PCB analysis whereas it's got some caps on the backside there's a couple of small ICSI some of these stuff like that it's got a button for stealth mode they call which just goes into a it just turns out he's off that's all it does and then it has a switch I think yes it has a switch at the top up here for performance mode and quiet mode which it is currently in performance mode towards the back is performance mode and towards the Front's quiet so that's dual BIOS switch then an LED on the back and I think that's pretty much everything on the card that I'll talk about right now cooler is interesting to talk about that in the video tomorrow but that's the HDS board so if you stuck around thanks for sticking around there's here's what you get for doing so Griselda Vaughn Jolie 50 SEK I have a double 1080i in the unique build there's a short clip on my channel do you do 1080i so I keep up better than 20 atti single it's gonna I'm turning the air back up because we don't need to show off the paul anymore it's freezing the 1080i to only be better in SLI and James would support it and I don't know if that's even true have to test it got the how many hours you put into testing question already it was a lot for this for the 20 series cards it was like in the first four days of testing it was 64 hours it's just 67% of all hours wanted to testing that kept track and then I forget I went through dollar earlier it was a lot okay I have to call it at some point but I'll keep reading some of these Tom five Tom entertainment RTX on two hours Thank You Raj bill one child two dollars will you still take more CBS for you wall art I don't know we we have more boxes I need to open so unless they're really unique maybe hold them for now and then when we do the next like fan mail open anything I'll see how many we have and see if we have enough to make that that pixel art logo and let everyone know if we need more of your garbage to build that with dr. Knapp $5 the best I run out of my 1080i FCW three hybrid tonight is 4868 2080 TI is expensive but damn 7200 plus I'm keeping my 20 80 TI FTW three pre-order there you get I mean yeah if that performance score is important to you I guess it does what the 1080 I can't it is expensive though empyrion DKK 20 is both of the XC are both AXI cards able to hit 130 percent yes they are you need a BIOS well you won't need a BIOS update I needed BIOS a day because their prerelease but yes Abhishek said what value if any is there on a non answer that I answered that one earlier trans waters $5 greetings from Charleston South Carolina hello I am looking to liquid cool eventually be a custom loop would you go reference card like aces dual or custom like Strix if there's a water block that's a reasonable price for Strix then even that like I guess you're looking at a higher power target and that's kind of the advantage because the reference boards have kind of a little power target I don't know what this thing has yet I'll check and find out build towards got a fucking fly PCB analysis coming up soon within the next few days not tomorrow or the next few days he'll have one check that it's Jango $2 tech Jesus please a blessed by his soul blessed be thy hardware as center- $4.99 if the specific parts of the GPU pipeline used for ray tracing aren't yet available if it gets here you are they effectively disabled or still drawing power in cycle okay gotcha if they so it's like anything else the SMS for example SMS on just like the GPU core they contain the F fuse ie the CUDA cores they contain cache they contain TM use they contain Rob's they contain memory controllers all that stuff's and SMS and GPUs and stuff like that so it's the same idea there where if the unit's not being used it is not drawing power or at least not a meaningful amount so the SMS well this is why they're grouped into G pcs TBC's I think it's MTV TBC's SM so forth because if you have like one TBC with 2's in it for example then one of those items might be active working on something you got a command and operation down the pipe it kind of looks at all the different units that has available is what workers are available and we'll target one in a fashion that is beneficial to power consumption so if you can keep like a couple items asleep they'll stay asleep it'll push off the load to something that's maybe already spin spun up and so the idea is just like with tents recorders RT cords if it's not being used then the command processes are at the very top that sends all the commands down the pipe through GP CT PCs and so forth should issue that they stay asleep and until it's woken up for a specific command it will stay asleep so they shouldn't be drawing any power just like when you're if you're like if I'm running this at 50% load in a game then it's not gonna be drawing 107 power it'll be drawing less maybe not proportionate proportional but it will be drawing less bill on child 100 bucks Congrats on the score Steve keep up the good work thank you Bill that's a lot of money thank you very much and then he followed up two dollars ripped Paul there he go it was worth it with him hearten C 1 2 3 $5 rip Paul know after givin all right did I don't think Paul Paul spry still eating dinner right did they did he respond anyone see if Paul worked out in the setting where is he he's still taking a break he took a break this is a probably the best I can do for now I didn't beat Steve but I broke 7,400 nice nicely done Paul what did he get paul got sony 401 damn 34 points away got to be careful but the best wash out Paul 70 401 everyone saying okay well we'll keep this going I'm sure he'll he'll beat it he's only 34 points away he can beat it eventually okay getting close to the end of the super chat unless he keeps sending them but I'm gonna have to cut it off at some points and be aware of that AEK a GSR $2.00 was the difference between cars and thermals partly yes I think I answered that Brock says fire laws enjoy some Cheerwine since I can't here in Oklahoma I'm so sorry for your loss we will definitely do that but PI put $1.99 cut your hair for me no thanks mechanical flaw $5 any news from ekw be thinking their pricing is high to get rid of the Pascal cards first I don't know anything about the pricing I know that oh who is it water cool water cool is working on some blocks alpha cool is working on blocks I don't know what he Kate's doing I think they have some Richard Hardman $2 well the 1080 blocks at the 2018 Oh boom $2 are you sure you're not using a 1792 XE yep pretty sure Tennessee on $5 thank you for streaming with r-tx on I can't go back hashtag just buy hit the verge and Tom's and like a two-week period created all of the references for the future Dustin I have $5 please crank your CPU overclock see how it effects did you be scored now it wasn't worth it unbeaten r-tx smackdown featuring Robo clock or Tech Jesus Paul s and NVIDIA Tom cage match it'd be pretty fun I'd like to I don't know Paul you're welcome to come out here if you want I you out we'll do an OC battle or something we do some other content there but that would be fun we are trying to get kingpin out here the creator of Robo clocker but I don't think Robo clocker will be coming with him oil shirt just bought it thank you very much you got one of the the last few I think they're pretty much gone what's even left those I think that's it I think that's it for the limited edition much left there's two extra smalls left we start with five of those because no one bought them we bought them thinking that someone might want them fortunately people tell people bottom two of those left you have a couple xl's still have the most 2x guess we've ever bought those a bit and then we have three four X's so that's it and small medium large and 3x are all gone XS is almost gone and XL is almost gone but thank you for buying one okay isn't the stuff on the stock PCB already overkill what can be better than the on the XE - PCB well the EXCI old try having there nothing cuz it is a reference PCB the xe2 is an IC X card so it's got thermistors on it if you like it the NTC thermistors for IC x it's kind of cool we'll have to look at the rest I don't know that's kind of what buildings point was and the PCB analysis we posted was it's it's really hard for partners to beat like this it's just the prm's good and video is doing a good job with their vrm and it's a little weird because it's something we want to see that's good for water cooling and stuff but also with the dual axial change - you start the question why are they suddenly working so hard on making a good reference model and and how are they pushing out board partners for the same types of cards and also just for the record she EVGA is representative messaged me and said Congrats wait till you get the kingpin card so maybe it'll happen all right I'm gonna cap this in like eight minutes that's what we're gonna do I would read as many as I can in eight minutes if I don't get to you I'm so sorry but there are a lot of them I hope you can understand it's just not possible to do like everything it will call it ten I might be able to do everything haha okay so let's where is it okay I'm gonna try and do as many if not all these like Han don't send any more stupid chats I'm not gonna get to it I mean if you want to you that's cool thank you but a mark probably I can get to the question or the comment so we got Tyler $5.00 I've got a Titan X Pascal I live to push the limits on my rig it can or should I haz Cheezburger what is that at 128 ET I guess if you can afford it if you can afford cheeseburger sure Hector Garcia $5 keep up the good work would be worth to switch from an msi 1080 TI fe to an EVGA 1080i FTW 3 or some TI water-cooled no unless you can like Salyer unless you can sell to a point where you're you're like what your is a magnitude of 50 or $100 and not 700-plus then that would be worth it I guess well on shoe Johnson - sneaky keyboard or sneaky board excuse me for one Janet there you go Paul's followers have infiltrated chat the Martin see one two three $5 my 1080i is struggling with Shadow the Tomb Raider 4k Ultra FPS 32 50s Willie test terrain SLI efficiency in the near future yes also voting for after stream ice cream I agree with you my throat's Dynes that sounds good WC current $2.00 but what cpu is it it's an ad 86 K Mario Soto $10 go borrow J's two cents AC set up for cooling is it good did he like pointed out a computer or something which Brown $5 Beetle Bug Adventure Racing wouldn't be able to run 4k 60fps on 20 atti and I've them at $5 Steve have you tested and be like a tall man this is popular any different than normal SLI does it make one logical GP like GV 100 I don't think so but I'm not sure I think that's like that's what makes it cool on GV 100 I would assume you I don't know that's probably information that's already out there maybe someone in chat can answer that I think it's out there but yeah well we'll see very soon I'll just look myself teeth is all $5 what kind of table are you using for this build according to the verge it's a big deal you said huh yes we only want the best tables for our PC builds because it's the most it's the first part they listed that you need this is actually a Uline table that was used so bad and Jarrett times are you getting the RG strict version two benchmarks - yes I showed it to you earlier so hopefully that can help you decide any choices Brecon Scott five dollars I bet my yogurts later can get more FPS at 1080p I don't don't know what that means Midori is $10 you and build Zoid first linus and j and head-to-head live OC but done kitchen show style were you running grab parts of the build leave the cool intact to each team then live or live I don't know our live stream yeah it'll be fun that's a good luck getting like builds Lloyd - Jay than me all in the same room I guess tourer maximum is $5 it met you at LTX had the EVGA mousepad with everyone's autographs I remember that that was pretty cool started watching you ever since in love your content thank you very much that is awesome to hear we liked LTX and we'll probably try to be back next year I think some software solutions here's the $5 to cover three drops of liquid metal for the shunt mod thanks fortunately have some production out right here so we get on that and then we got a Midori is courtesy of Galvin called the competition PC master-race white bear five dollars you should take that back take back that dig you made out the verge yesterday you were a professional I mean look man the verge that video was deserving of some jokes it wasn't a personal attack of the guy in the video the verge is a professional publication I'll remind you with far greater reach than we could ever dream to have and as a professional publication they also have a responsibility to their viewers and users which is to you know like make sure that you know something as basic as zip ties are not tweezers I mean come on come on I can understand not knowing anything on overclocking I can understand like hey this is my first time building PC I haven't done it before let's learn together I get that that's cool it's really awesome they want to grow the community if they do that but dude zip ties are tweezers and use an allen key to build your PC like give me hip break pray also the verge did one of their video directors didn't tweet a few digs at youtubers in August so I don't want to tell you but they they did not make friends in the community wolf eats two to five four or five dollars what do you think about graphics card rental services I think it's really interesting I've never used one though but interesting nonetheless exotic simplicity two dollars no message Thank You Loic billing dirt five dollars do you think Artie can be supported by a secondary PhysX card man we're getting close to the end here thank you for slowing those down for me I think we're gonna make it we'll make through all of them no I don't think it can be mad arias could they be holding performance back till extra 1080 eyes Sal also snagged the shirt thank you for grabbing a shirt store tie Karen's axis thought that if you want to grab any of this stuff there like the beer glasses that we use talk could they be holding forth back I don't subscribe to that particular conspiracy theory I don't think so I like think of and sabotage their launch to a point where the lioness and Jay and consumer-facing media are criticizing the product I don't think so that seems crazy Pedro Palazzo I crazy for them to do mine's not a crazy conspiracy theory because they're been things crazier than that Vega frontier for blender about 550 you Steve Wow 16 gigabytes of HBO makes it seem good if you're doing stuff that uses that much memory and your biggest bottleneck is memory then that sounds good to me but only then Norman when will you test enemy link on the 8086 or will test some 980 86 unless it is a CPU bottleneck we'll find out fast pedra answer your question shark with manners $24 hi Steve just woke up it's 335 the morning here in the UK and also bought a foil shirt cobalt glasses and another blue Heather t-shirt Wow thank you very much all I did was get up for a cigarette but totally worth it well thank you for the support shark with manners you certainly do have some manners I can't verify the shark part though and then only a couple more awesome Douglas M 499 working hard right now so I cannot watch the stream live but I wanted to pop in and say hi hi Douglas thank you for the five bucks and hope your work is going well we've $10 10 DS for daddy that's weird but I I'll eat the chicken tenders anyway bill one trial a $2.00 spamming super chats right now and I'm a peace and love peace and love no more super chats please okay we've got to the end okay it's all just spam now I don't read the last real question and then no more Treyarch PvP hey Steve I'm debating the next graphics card to purchase I a 970 FTW at the moment but don't know whether to go with a 2080 or a 1080 TI if the price in your region favor is the 1080i being cheaper by $100 or greater than the 1080i is a good way to save money look at your financial situation but that's where I would go if they're the same price the 2080 but otherwise 1080i if it's cheaper like it is here yeah I get that one so okay that's it we made it through all them there's still 2800 of you here some reason but thank you for watching the live stream was a lot of fun the card hit 74 35 points we got plus 200 plus 1000 five offset four core and memory respectively hundred 30% power offset for power target for the EVGA actually ultra with this card it's any 120 buddies rerun it with the the test not in windowed mode apparently and yeah so great scores overall modified it a bit with some Noctua fans just kind of precariously sitting on there that's it for this one though yeah subscribe for more we have another stream coming up sometime next week building pcs for the production room should be a lot of fun really enjoyed the chat interaction and the super chats and thank you for the storage is all that stuff Paul I'm looking forward to continuing our beef I hope you get another 34 points on your score so that I can have a reason to respond I just want I just want a friend Paul Linus didn't want to be my friend he never responded to my repel TT challenge so I left here with your attempt at overclocking and I hope you can be there so we can come back at it thanks for watching everyone subscribe for more go to stores I gave his exes on net scrap stuff they're patriotic on slash gamers next stop site directly and I will see you all next time you