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everyone we're at PAX West 2017 looking at a new mouse and keyboard from Logitech both of which are wireless this is the G 603 I also have the G 613 keyboard next to me but we're starting with the mouse because it's got a few changes from what we've seen previously primarily in the form of the sensor which is the new hero sensor before getting to that this coverage is brought to you by the EVGA 1080 TI sc2 and NVIDIA Destiny to bundle running up through September 4th the 1080i sc2 comes with a synchronous fan control for its dual fans and nine thermal sensors and again includes destiny to learn more at the link in the description below so for the mouse the G 603 I want to address a rumour first off when this was announced there's a rumor going around that if you remove the battery because you can actually do that and still use it it would have lower performance the thinnest these batteries run in parallel they're not serial so because they run in parallel you've got an interesting solution to wait if you think it's too heavy you take a battery out and you lose however much that way is 15 grams something like that now a tactically offsets the center of balance a little bit or center of mass but in terms of performance the sensitivity is going to be the same the report rates going to be the same everything will behave the same on the performance side you just lose half your capacity so if you don't want to have the capacity but you're good on the weight side then there's your solution but that's just to address the rumor so in terms of accessing it though it's a magnetic setup you just pull the body off and comes off just like that the spring retention or spring tensioning systems on the underside we have b-roll of it if you want to see it and we've talked about it before in more detail with the some of the powerplay coverage the G 900 coverage things like that the mouse interestingly it's got two switches on the bottom one's a wireless and one's a bluetooth and the other ones a high and a low speed for the wireless and Bluetooth the sensor this may interest people who have seen our recent synergy ads as a an alternative to that you can switch to wireless if you want to use it on your performance gaming PC for example behaves the same as the lights speed sensor in the G 900 so fast or faster or as fast as a wired device in terms of input latency in response or you switch to Bluetooth mode and it can connect to another system so you're still running the different host OS is the mouse isn't moving between systems there's no cross file transfer things like that but you can run one keyboard mouse out of KPM without and over the network software solution and just switch between Bluetooth and wireless so I thought that was an interesting use case for our audience in our own use we can use it between the random machine and the compression machine in game are you she'd use it between gaming and streaming boxes and that would probably be be the main use case just switch between them for the hero sensor the big number they're giving us here is 17,000 fps so that's I to give some perspective the 3366 I'm pretty sure is a 12 K FPS sensor but the bigger difference is that the form of tracking for the hero sensor is continuous so it should adjust on the fly now it's not going to adjust to the level of single FPS numbers it's still steps but it should adjust on the fly continuously for the framerate which that number changes based on how fast you're moving so if you're like counter-strike player doing flick to the wrist movements you'll be closer or at that 17:17 k max number versus office is much lower the 3366 is a 12 k FPS sensor and it adjusts in steps or increments so rather than the continuous adjustment it might be X out X thousand Y thousand mm we don't know the exact numbers but that's the main difference from what we've been told there's no appreciable noticeable difference between the sensors in terms of performance you can probably find them if you set it up to a machine but you're not going to be able to appreciate them in general as a user the high and low speed switch so low speed changes the response from 8 milliseconds or from one millisecond to 8 milliseconds so we go into the low-speed 8 milliseconds uses a lot less power but I mean that's the advantage is suppose to be about three times more battery life from what they tell us and if you go into high speed it's one millisecond performance as normally expected 500 hours of use continuous non-stop put it on a dolly over a service and that's what you get and that should be four to six months in terms of actual user use cases the keyboard is next so the MAOIs is 70 the keyboards 150 neither of these use the new power play module that we show with our power play and g9 or three review coming up after the show but they're both wireless keyboard runs on double aces wild mouse runs on double a's and they accept either alkaline lithium ion all the normal stuff the keyboard also has the Bluetooth and wireless switching that the mouse has they do run on different receivers so you plug the receiver in just like this and you'd run one for each device if you wanted that setup switches it's got romaji switches so there logitech version of mechanical switches we've covered them the bath in the past they feel similar to the brown switches with a rubber o-ring on them and you're wondering what they feel like the keyboard itself normal set of keys not tkl it's got media buttons it has a game mode switch and it's got the wireless and Bluetooth switches the double-a batteries are expected to last something like 18 months I asked that's not a continuous use that's gaming and office use everyday we don't know how many hours or anything like that but basically it's a simulated use case 18 months is what they're projecting the mouse as I said 500 hours continuous four to six months otherwise with high speed and then three times that with low speed I think that pretty much covers it so that's that's what we know right now for the G 613 and G 603 we'll have additional coverage throughout the show be sure to subscribe for that check the website for more gamers access dotnet and if you'd like to help us out directly as always patreon.com/scishow cameras in excess or just subscribe and i'll see you all next time you