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logitech's chaos spectrum G 900 wireless mouse it makes great engineering efforts to dismantle this argument that wireless mice are somehow unreliable for gaming or have slower input latency ISM this argument does come from reality but it doesn't always have to be the case and that's what Logitech is trying to prove with its new G 900 that were reviewing today so we have a full in-depth review on this which will talk about the radio frequency interference impedance talk about crosstalk talk about the battery life the mechanics of the mouse and the click enos I mean I don't know if you can hear that but it's pretty clicky and we'll be talking about overall value for gamers so let's just dive into this immediately we've got to talk specs before getting to all the in-depth testing reviewing Logitech's chaos spectrum G 900 is a little bit like reviewing a supercar it's a $150 Mouse and just to sort of spoil the review is straight away it is exceptionally well engineered but it's expensive it's targeted it has specific use cases and at the cost of an entry level video card it's instantly out of budget for people shopping for maybe a $50 Mouse even in such an instance that this is out of your budget the G 900 is a peripheral worth paying attention to and that's because it's worth learning about and studying because some of the mouse's key features will invariably bleed over into new products in the future and hopefully those will be lower cost a lot of types of boasting approximately a 24-hour run to die battery life and that means constant non-stop use which is not the same as everyday use and shoots for over 30 hours with the RGB LEDs disabled a 720 milliamp hour 15 gram lithium polymer battery is used for the G 900 allowing for an ultra lightweight build and a near constant voltage depression curve throughout the batteries a charge cycle you can learn more about batteries like this in our previous battery video lipo batteries are deformable almost liquid like versions of lithium ion meaning that the G 900 internal battery can be shaped into form to fit a uniquely small compartment while still extracting long life this isn't unique to the G 900 it exists in many applications but for comparison the razor Mamba uses an 1,800 milliamp hour battery that weighs 31 grams so it's heavier and has approximately a 20-hour run to die charge cycle less endurance weighs more and more milliamp hours for other specs the Gina tracts in excess of 300 inches per second which is faster than even pro gamers can reasonably twitch and has a two hundred twelve thousand dpi high resolution sensor and that of course means a lot more than just the dots per inch because that is kind of pointless at twelve thousand it's got small incremental stepping in that sensor range the buttons are rated for twenty million clicks the tetrafluoroethylene feet are rated for two hundred and fifty kilometers of movement and acceleration is rated for upwards of forty g buttons are modular allowing for completely ambidextrous configurations with six to eleven total programmable buttons depending on how you configure the button layout and that includes logitech's hyper fast scroll wheel the buttons are programmable through LGS the new metal spring tensioning system is also present offering a resolute and consistent click force that feels analogous to the transition from a membrane keyboard to a mechanical keyboard still it's no m6 3mm mechanical ball mouse so that's all the brochure knowledge to talk about Pohl rates and frequency and interference we have to do some more in-depth testing or at least analysis of testing provided to us because some of this requires some high-end equipment that we don't have like anechoic chambers but we did do a lot of the testing and validation on our own where we were able to one of those very easy tests was bringing the G 900 to PAX East which we recently went to and PAX East if you saw our content had upwards of 15 the 20,000 concurrent visitors at any one time on Saturday that is a lot of people with a lot of phones a lot of computers in b-y-o-see more than 500 systems in the PC free play area tons of interference potential we tested this there on the floor with our editing laptop and had no issues at all with tracking it was consistent there was no teleportation of the cursor from one corner to the other and so performance was pretty good overall we also stopped by Logitech booth and looked at some of the testing that they had available and even got to click around on the mice ourselves to look more in depth at how the input and things like that respond traditional wireless mice are engineered for an 8 millisecond response time as mechanism for battery life preservation a slower clock oscillation results in reductions to input responsiveness that the user can perceive especially in gaming so for gamers milliseconds matter high-end wireless mice for gaming primarily differ shave themselves in the polling rate and logitech's G 911 report rate that makes a data transmission to the wireless receiver effectively instant mice boasting a 1,000 Hertz poll rate would also have a 1 millisecond report rate just for clarity and that's 1000 Hertz which means 1000 times per seconds that's a thousand reports per second law detects wire g-series mice like the g502 proteus core that we praised previously respond approximately 1.2 milliseconds faster than the g 900 so there is a difference and it is measurable 1.2 milliseconds in response but that's more or less imperceptible by the user actually it's effectively completely imperceptible to the user and the response times are fairly tight Elliott's variable overall and that's true for basically all mice this histogram from PACs shows a bell curve of response times from click input the G 900 exhibited an input latency range of 3.4 2 milliseconds or a 3.2 5 millisecond minimum 26.67 millisecond maximum with an average of 5.07 the razer Mouse present for testing just for example had a range of 3.1 to milliseconds that's the range of input with a nine point three one millisecond minimum to twelve point four three millisecond maximum averaged at 11.81 milliseconds that makes the G 900 objectively faster in input measurement by a few times actually and still consistently tightly timed within the range of results and then there's the whole Wireless interference argument and there's a lot that goes into this test and we have actually about a thousand words dedicated just to this in the article linked in the description below click on that if you want to learn about this stuff but we'll go through the basics and the most important elements here so we've talked about input latency but there's another aspect of performance I want to talk up first and that's impedance this is less about input latency and more about overall signal strength of the mouse which is indicative of its ability to perform in perhaps conventional or land environments a market that Logitech is targeting with this Mouse in a perfect world with no interference and flawless components one which would never exist a wireless mouse should track a perfectly circular radiation pattern when spun about its access for example on a turntable but the G 900 isn't perfect and neither is any other Mouse for that matter it does however output eight decimal milliwatts of max power with a fairly circular radiation pattern it's consistent in its tracking and the next closest competitor is SteelSeries with their sensei wireless mouse tracking at negative one decibel milliwatts and outputting a fairly reliable pattern comparable to the G 900 razors Ouroboros tracked at negative 12 decibel milliwatts and was a bit more erratic in its behavior as shown most heavily in this anechoic chamber testing data that we obtained through Logitech in these tests the mouse was placed 50 inches from the receiver and tracked with frequencies in Bluetooth class to a c LD m5 mode 802 dot 11 G and Wireless channels 1 through 13 and Gaussian frequency shift keying modulation sweeping between two point four zero zero gigahertz and two point four eight three gigahertz executed in one megahertz increments that is a lot of frequency Mumbai earning this mouse at once and all the other tested mice and the mouse was even jogged in a fixed pattern throughout the tests to show a circular drift pattern on the far left which is your what you're looking at now this is the wired mouse on the far left it has a wire followed by a similar pattern in the centre but for the G 900 wireless mouse this is without the wire connected and no frequency interference or perturbation going on finally the far right image is the G 900 with an onslaught of noise and impedance and the pattern is slightly disturbed but effectively identical even in its worst case scenario the mouse never jumps or skips and it's tracking and this is something we have independently validated and even tested in real-world intense environments like the middle of PAX East that's the big thing to look for if the cursor tracking suddenly teleports across the screen which I'm sure many of you have seen in your game and experience that's a major issue that means you can't trust that thing for gaming and we have not seen that issue with this mouse that did however happen with some of the competing products like SteelSeries sensei wireless mouse that exhibits loops rather than circles result of RF interference and you can see a couple of the other ones here as well but enough of that aspect for now the rest is in the article let's talk about the clicky nests and mechanics of this mouse of course a very important aspect to any Gaming Mouse the colliculus is resolute and definitive it is very satisfying actually in an odd way kind of like mechanical keyboards when you move from membranes mechanical and it's got a very consistent off the line actuation for us as well so from our mouse to one that some other reviewer may have the force should be pretty consistent it's got about a 10 gram force range between the off-the-line products and the actuation force required to do one of these is 55 to 65 grand force so you can check some of the other measurements online to compare that to your mouse so you can kind of understand where it compares against what you're using today logitech uses a spring to preload the switch under the key plate which rocks on the fulcrum toward the center of the mouse this is indicated by the yellow circle in this image and the switch is mounted at an angle consistent with the depression of the key plates eliminating shear force and making for the consistency and durability experience with the G 900 overall I'm very happy with the click enos and mechanics of the mouse it feels perfect to use quite frankly for gaming I like the G 303 a lot previously if you're familiar with that one or the G 502 but this has a bit of a different feel to it and some of that is of course use bias one other item to note here of course is that there is a very tiny bit of latency in one aspect of this mouse and it's not that important and that is when it wakes up so when you turn this thing on you'll see I've got the LEDs perhaps you can see that and if I leave it here sitting don't use it for 10 minutes it will go to sleep now of course when you move it it takes it out on I'll on maybe half a second or less to wake back up so there should be an expectation of a very slight delay there but that's never going to happen in gaming because there's never a time when you're just going to leave that there hands off for 10 minutes while you're playing Counter Strike unless you're insanely good so that is not really a concern but it is something I wanted to note of course just for realistic expectations of the mouse and it does have I'm not exactly sure how this works to be honest but it does have some sort of micro sleep in it as well so if you are if you move to the side and just type for a bit and then come back to the mouse it there's no latency or anything that hasn't officially gone to sleep but it is preserving power just by nature of not using the controller it's got a 32-bit arm CPU in here it's not going to be hammering the sensor or doing any tracking or things like that when it's sitting still so of course that does preserve power which means this 24 hour run to die life that we talked about earlier is basically if you were to sit down and play games for 24 hours from now non-stop that's how long it would last in real-world use and my personal use for office and gaming environments I've gotten about four to maybe five days out of it and that's just kind of leaving it on turn it off when I walk away things like that one additional note here the mouse is phenomenally light to the point that everyone who picked it up commented on it and weighs about 100 grams that's less than many wired mice even and is important for this because a battery is normally heavy its mechanics feel satisfying and well engineered Logitech SCAF spectrum G 900 for these reasons and the other is defined here in gets our editors a choice and build quality Awards or here your execution of design and engineering and this has now D throned previous Logitech mice as the quote best mouse I've ever used and that proves I think in my book that Wireless mice can actually be better than wired mice for gaming and Logitech in this regard has definitively proven its point that it's set out to make with the G 900 so this is a $150 Mouse just to set a few other options out there if it's too much for $75 you can get the g502 proteus core which we did like pretty well but it's wired you can also and should look at the brand new Corsair M 65 wired mouse that's about $60 it's an M 65 pro that's the name of an M 65 pro we're working on reviewing that one the logitech g502 proteus core would be the sort of direct option against that Mouse 75 or $60 and then finally if you want a wireless mouse I would suggest looking at the SteelSeries sensei Wireless which is 133 issue dollars so it's a bit cheaper than this but it's got some differences of course and its overall layout and you need to take those into account if you want a smaller Mouse though it's worth looking at certainly so those are the main options I would point you toward we've also used the Razer Ouroboros and I am not personally a big fan of that Mouse it's well we'll talk about that in the future but the ones I just laid out are the ones I would look at most immediately so as always thank you for watching this in depth review content if you like the way we review these products and go into detail please hit the patreon link compress your video help us out directly linked in the description below for the polar review article thank you for watching I'll see you all next time