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everyone today we're tearing down an MSI 1080p eye gaming X which I have right here so this is a new TI model it's still a twin pros are cooler but the difference here versus the 1080 gaming X the non TI this heatsink is a whole lot fatter so the aluminum fins here are a lot wider in both directions and it is a it will consume more space on the board and and the expansion slots now for comparison I have here a 390 X version of MSI is cooler from a couple generations ago in design it's a bit different on the face of things but it is similarly fat so this is not the first time MSI has gone this direction we're going to be taking the gaming X apart the 1080 I should say and a few things are gonna be done with this one how good is the cooler implementation and 2 we're going to be sending over PCB shots to build Zoid who will be doing a PCB env RM analysis for us and we'll be uploading that on our channel shortly so stay tuned for that as let's get started the gaming X I should say a 1080i gaming X because they're all gaming access times I the 1080 TI gaming act is the same setup as all the other ones screws in the back plate for it in the center for securing the heatsink these are spring tension screws and then we shouldn't really have to mess with a whole lot else before getting to the teardown this is brought to you by our patreon backers you can go to patreon.com/scishow and access if you'd like to help us out with videos like this one and build Zoids and all the others because that funding helps us produce more content so patreon.com/scishow and axis if you'd like to help out there and a side note there we have a new merch store and anyone who is a current patreon backer of the dollar amounts to find on the page I have probably reached out to you with a shirt offer if you don't already have one so keep an eye on your inboxes or message me if not let's get to it so this thing Phillips screws all over the back side we have stupid star screws in the shroud fortunately these are not relevant to what we're doing today we do not need to remove these I don't think anyway I believe removing these will basically pull out that LED plate so those aren't important not mission-critical but they are there so it's worth pointing out if you wanted to take the entire thing apart to paint it or something you would need those I also of note GeForce GTX is on all these cards now so I'm not sure that's an Nvidia agreement of some kind let's go ahead and start with the dismantling process just enough to loosen things no okay so with this card in order to sometimes you can just loosen these four and get the heatsink off and then the rest are just for attention on the backplate this one we will actually have to remove all of these as well because actually the screwed down straights it's pretty clearly that that longer screw length means we're going through the backplate which is fairly thick actually this time through the PCB and then into the base plate and the base plate is of course what actually is cooling things like the VRMs and the MOSFETs and all that stuff all the different parts of the vrm now one thing here part of this project is so we can do thermal analysis because we're going to be mounting thermocouples to the MOSFETs and the PCB backside again like we've been doing the last couple of cards now that will allow us to see not only how well does the GPU cool because that's kind of important but not as much as it used to be but how well does the vrm cool which is something we've become very interested in in the last year or so two four five seven nine eleven plus four so fifteen fifteen screws to the backside eleven of them are retention screws right does it have thermal pads on it question number one no it has bumpers on it these are rubber bumpers the offset height is actually compact anything that is the question no the answer is no there's no contact so that's questionable yet so this backplate is for looks fortunately there is a bit of dissipation area here to get rid of some of the heat on the back side and the back side does get really hot on these things for the most part so depending on how efficiently the front side is cooled which we'll soon find out we've even got some caps on the backside over here depending on how things go over on the front side this could potentially trap heat and increase temperature on the back side of the PCB but that's not always the case depends on the rest of the cooling solution so we will find that out for our full review and not speculate further just keep in mind you'll want to check back for the full review to see how the back plate works because I'll do a be testing with it on and with it off and we'll have a probe on the backside die action measure the backside temperatures because the back plate for GPU doesn't really affect the GPU core temperature that's not the point of it it would affect if anything the backside temperature so that's where it is now we have to take out the screws for the i/o the expansion mount and put those in the bottom right corner there are three of these Phillips and then two for DVID excuse me four Phillips and two for DVID these are five millimeter I miss though the top side screws that's different okay so this is a little different from what we normally see they have decided to retain the i/o cover with screws on the top side it's a little too small rather than the the back side is what we normally see - that's really interesting okay so this swings out like a door io our expansion cover there and interestingly this thing sweeps over for a support bar which just seems really like a whole lot of material to hold this thing on so that's a bit different from normally but I suppose it's because of how massive this card is they probably need the support anywhere they can get it to make sure it's not going to rip things off the board when you mount it I'm going to leave the card flat and see if we can pull this off we can and we're going to get caught by the cables which is one over here for the LED it looks like I'll know in a second and then there are two over here now that was a c5 okay so I got that off now that the PCB is exposed do a tap on the wrist strap over here so what we've got actually this kind of interesting looking I'm excited that's that's one thermally couple things here one we have two fan headers I believe we'll find out and a power header over here which is probably for the LEDs and actually how this would not be hard to verify where is this going this cable is up is it going to the LED this cable goes to the LED okay so easily verified so this cable here right there that four pin despite being a four pin is going to the LEDs right here the MSI nameplate and then this cable definitely goes to the fans that connects over here this is another power cable only black and red so where does that go might be another LED or something not too important right now it's over the cooling design clearly we have a massive aluminum heatsink there's your cold plate I would guess with 99% confidence this is nickel plated copper and interestingly that's screwed in to what looks like a retention bracket for the rest of the heatsink we'll see let's see what that actually does if this is held on by screws I'm not going to be impressed but I don't think it is okay so it's more than screws too high like this for it is soldered to the heat pipes so that's good and it looks like it's soldered which is why I'm confused it looks like it's soldered to the aluminum fins as well wants to point that yeah I'm not sure the point of that is but okay we've got our thermal pads which are actually clearly making contact here so a few things here this is your set of inductive or your chokes as a really fat they're all bad on it it looks like it maybe a two-millimeter one of the biggest ones I've seen on a video card looks like two millimeters I think that is a two millimeter they're all pad it looks like two two millimeters for jokes and inductors we're in the same thing capacitor banks right here that is not a believe that is not receiving direct contact instead they have a channel here milled out of the heatsink fin so you can see this this part right here is actually taller than this part nothing special defends they're not l-shaped or anything like that just spins so these are cooled by air exclusively does that contact is actually we can just look at it and see yes is it yeah that makes contact so there's a slight indent so those make contact to this that would be kind of dumb if they didn't but it would also not be the first time we've seen that in the past year these pads contact the MOSFETs which there are a million of them they'll do it again we'll analyze for us and then these two over here are contacting the components on this side with anything else nothing else special going on so I throw these two screws back in and then we'll pull off the rest of the base plate okay so the base plate is pretty interesting on this we have this piece which is contacting the vram and it's actually will go like orient like that then do it I wanted as you can see pads pads pads pads but the one messing vram module for a Titan XP did they put a pad in that slot come on look at this MSI what are you doing I don't know if they do they make a Titan XP card with this design if they do then what they've done is pull the design without replacing a piece that's possible actually do they let's look it up no I don't think they make one I don't think they make one of these for a Titan X card so what that means is they've stuck an extra thermal pad on there which is not detrimental to your performance but is pointless so it just seems kind of silly well anyway extra thermal pad notwithstanding what we have is a set of DDR or gddr5 X as you would expect we'll clean that off but it is the same GPU as all the other 1080p is and some blank board space up here is a larger board most of that size is not for components as much as it is for the massive fans which I think are 90 millimeter fans actually we can find that out really quickly to 100 millimeter fans so they're using a hundred millimeter fans which does require extra height that's really the main reason for it well uncover these components for builds or shortly and other than that is what you would expect for a 1080i PCB so the interesting points here this is interesting they have decided to make a thick what looks like aluminum back or base plate that is separated physically from the vrm now this I would suspect would isolate to some extent the temperature generated by this half of the board and this half of the board this have been much much higher potential to generate a whole hell of a lot of heat because that's what MOSFETs do and they can also tolerate a lot more heat so that's interesting this side then is taken care of by this part of the base plate which is nickel-plated in this part of the base plate contacts we have thermal pads to the most part and then is soldered it looks like to the aluminum fins on the heatsink at which pick point you know how the cooling works so that's for the final piece here just clean this off and then we'll be able to close up shop move liquidy thermal paste shake is enough there's your GPU clean it up more later maybe same GP 102 350 part as on the founders Edition card that should not surprise anyone at this point but it's worth showing it so alright that's the msi card now at this point what's left is basically just doing the testing so you got to do all the FPS testing and stuff like that but of import here we've got some thermal testing to do without the stock setup so that would be with our thermocouples installed we have a standardized set of everything we do for that one addition here I'm probably going to try mounting a thermocouple to one of these vram modules not sure if I'm going to do that yet but that's something I want to do because this is really interesting to me how they've isolated it of course we need comparative metrics I wanted to do this anyway so we'll probably start running these retro actively on a couple of cards or maybe just work on it with the EVGA and the ACS cards come in and going forward either way I'm hoping to have some vram measurements this time in addition to set temperature measurements for the MOSFETs and the vrm and back side PCB measurements which are really just to validate that the back plate is not complete garbage so we'll have all that setting this photos of this off the builds I'd he'll do the vrm and power analysis so we should have pretty full coverage of this card for you if you're interested in that subscribe for more as always you can go to patreon.com/crashcourse and access to helps out directly or gamers Nexus not net for the site and full coverage as always thank you for watching I'll see you all next time you you