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anthea's on firing products from a Gatling gun the last month or so and their latest round includes the ammunition in the GPU Department the Polaris lines heated second deployment in the rx 500 GPUs including the 580 and 570 that launch today these are refinements over the initial Polaris launched by architecture remains entirely unchanged the rx 500 series ships with tire stock clocks from the 400 cards effectively serving as a pre overclock with some additional OC headroom on top of that this includes an extra 25 millivolts over voltage that board partners can opt into like a messiah has done for the rx 580 gaming X that we're reviewing today we'll post our rx 570 review tomorrow before that this coverage is brought to you by the Computex conference which runs from May 30th to June 3rd in Taipei Taiwan this year Computex is the biggest event of the year for PC hardware and technology where we preview the newest prototypes before they come to market we highly recommend attending or following this event online for industry professionals and enthusiasts learn more at the link in the description below as stated our rx 570 review goes live tomorrow we also have the XFX 580 that we'll be looking at shortly this week sometime this one's pretty cool actually for a few reasons but we'll get to that soon enough first thing to do here though is to clear up some misconceptions and confusion that we saw online pertaining to the rx 500 launch there were some photos going out or slides that showed what looked like a new reference cooler it doesn't exist that's not a thing so the slides that were going around we saw them Scott Watson came by and did some videos with us and he presented us a slideshow at that time it included the slide that you all likely saw and many people were speculating consisted of plans for a new reference cooler that was not a blower cooler in fact that was just a slide saying that this is going to be a partner launch so what does that mean that means that people like MSI XFX gigabyte the AIB partners basically dictate everything within reason on the polaris refresh more or less so these cards the 580 s our partner only models there is no reference rx 580 there will be no reference rx 570 as far as are we're currently and that means that the coolers reference coolers don't exist in the capacity that was being rumored on the internet so this is what you get you get the AIB partner coolers and that's it that means that we'll be testing these individually and doing reviews individually of the cards as they come out rather than just a blanket 580 review using the reference model with updates later the clocks will be dictated by the partners this time around so overall what we're seeing is basically a pre OC on something like an Rx for a tea the frequency out of the box for these cards versus the previous cards is higher than both the reference and most of the partner models for the MSI card that we have it's got the Twin Frozr cooler that you see pretty much on all of their cards at this point the stock clock out of box is about 1367 megahertz peak so it tends to average around 13 40 1350 somewhere in there and then if you maxed out the power slider without touching anything else to 150% of power that gets us up to 13 93 megahertz fixed just constant so we're looking at it just under 1,400 megahertz for out-of-box performance when the power target is maxed and then for overclocking things of note would be the extra 25 millivolts that we can get at least on this card AMD permits it it is up to the board partners to actually leverage that so in watt man the utility this one will go up to 1200 millivolts in reality that translates to about one point two six or one point two five six volts and stock without the power target offset at some around one point to two volts so you have some room there to play with overclocking we'll get into our OC stepping charts in a minute and the rest of the 580 series in terms of clocks is going to be more or less around the 1360 mark 213 90 mark without any over clocks by the user other than that there aren't any real differences to speak of here it still Polaris 10 it's more refined and mature as a process but the gains are entirely from increases in clock rate and idle power management granted load power is still higher than the our X 480 because the clock is higher as for prices the cheapest rx 588 gigabyte card will be two hundred and twenty dollars and that is an our X 580 gaming made by gigabyte there are 4 gigabytes as an 4gb not the brand 4 GB models nearing the $190 mark and then there are a couple of the RX 570 models around 170 to 180 for price our review today will be looking at one of the better rx 580 is the gaming X priced at $245 and then our XFX model that we're reviewing later this week is about $250 for our primary comparison we're looking at a GTX 960 SSC this is an EVGA card priced at 250 so it's a pretty head-to-head match with the gaming X 245 250 then there you have some kind of deal it's basically the same price we also in maybe two of the charts have at some data from the gaming x10 60 model that one tends to be bit more expensive clocked a bit higher its gaming actually gaming X so we left it in for those charts and that's really it so there's no big architecture discussion here like we normally have with a new video card launch if you are curious about the Polaris architecture watch our initial our X 480 review or read the article because it's the same nothing has changed no point in rehashing all that the content was already refined and good when we put it out there and there's no changes so this is a refresh there are faster clocks that means we can expect an increase in benchmark performance and let's start off with power before getting into the power stuff we do have an OCD stepping chart to clarify what the clocks were when we went into the power testing and game testing put that on the screen now that shows the process of failure and success on different clocks for the 580 gaming X specifically if you want to see the other numbers you can go to the article and then for the rest of the testing methodology again article links in the description below will contain all of that so we've got the thermal testing there we have the outline for power testing gaming benchmarks all that stuff to find in the article power has a direct correlation with thermals and so it's important to establish a baseline power measurement in some real use cases our power testing is done at the wall which means that this is a measurement of total system power draw not individual GPU draw by the rails and that means we firstly care about the card to card Delta's for power test we're using two games configure two very high or extreme graphics settings 3dmark fire strike extreme and idle for desktop draw idle the RX 580 gaming next system consumes about 76 to watch which is a reduction of a few watts from the RS 40 stock configuration this is expected and these tuning on it's 40 nanometer process has brought down power consumption specifically when idle and when viewing things like movies or other low load GPU tasks the RX 580 system draws about 8.6 percent more power idle than the 70 watts 1060 system moving on the 3d mark fire strike we see that the synthetic benchmark post the RX 580 gaming Xbox system at 281 watch with the overclocked experience at one point two six volts now drawing 301 watts for an increase in power consumption of seven percent the RX for 80 gaming X system draws 248 watts with its overclocked counterpart at 270 watts when running eight 1375 ish megahertz on the core the RX 580 gaming ex consumes approximately 13% more power than the our X 480 gaming X when both are stock that's obviously not true for idle different story there the EVGA gtx 1060 SSC runs the same workload with a total system draw in 3d mark of 202 watts stock or 219 overclocked the RX 580 consumes approximately 39% more power than the GTX 960 SSC for honor is one of our more load intensive games at landing the 580 systems at 310 watt stock or 334 Watts overclocked for an increase in power consumption of about 12% over the RX 480 the 1060 SSE runs around 218 watt stock and 234 OC resulting in the RX 580 consuming about 42% more power when both our stock Ghost Recon in so it shows more of the same we've got that on the chart as well if you want to see how that game consumes power it's a bit different from for honor but the scaling is more or less linear we're going to get straight into game testing now if you want to see the other charts for things like frequency overtime and temperatures you can check the content below let's start off with Mass Effect Andromeda at 1080p the RX 580 gaming ex stock card run in average frame rate of about 79 FPS with 1% loaded at 62 and 0.1% loads at 57 frame tennis here are relatively consistent and in line with other results versus the stock are X 480 gaming X this is an improvement of about 5.4 percent stock to stock or about 6.8% when looking at the overclocked 580 versus the overclocked 480 and overclocked 580 is basically then overclocked overclocked 480 it's it's the same architecture the frequency is the only difference here the overclocked rx 580 outperforms the fury X in this particular test and performs about 2.4 percent behind the gtx 970 or about 7% behind the gtx 960 SSC which operates frame rates of 89 68 and 64 overclocking the 1060 SSE gets at 295 FPS average just ahead of the 1060 gaming x from msi overclock to RX 580 performs about 13% behind at the gtx 960 SSC would be stock rx 580 performing about 11% behind the stock gtx 960 SSC strictly for point of reference the RX 470 runs at around 63 FPS in this test the r9 390x at about 70 and the gtx 1070 SC at about 119 FPS will have 570 numbers for you shortly here's a look at the stock clock frame times of the rx 580 versus the gtx 960 SSC just to help give an idea of latency between frames but moving on swiftly to 1440p the RX 580 gaming x stock is now running at 51 FPS average with the same inconsistent frame times as most the other results of the stack the stock rx 580 is evenly matched with our overclocked to 480 gaming X or about 4% ahead of the stock our X 480 the RX 580 OC operates about 5.2 percent faster than the stock version now at 54 FPS average which leaves the 580 cards flanking the 970 looking to the direct competitors in the gtx 1060 class the SOC stock runs at 57 FPS average putting at about 16% ahead of the stock rx 580 with the overclocked SSE card running about 13.6% ahead of the overclocked rx 580 card just for perspective we'll quickly highlight the r9 390 the r9 fury acts and the gtx 1070 cards on the chart to give an idea of where things fall Pentagon - Ghost Recon wildlands and then we'll get to doom with Vulcan at 1080p the rx 580 gaming X lens at 58 FPS average roughly the same as the RX for 80 game NEX with just some difference in the frame times as for the gtx 960 SSC the pascal card lands at 67 FPS average stock marking it in a lead of about 15.5% overclocked in the 1060 SSE gives it some trouble in the point one percent department but we see a boost to 72 FPS average and the 580 gaming X moves to 61 FPS average moving on to 1440p the RX 580 gaming X runs around 46 FPS average with the GTX 1060 at 48 fps average and increasing the resolution has shrunk in the gap between the two devices with the tanzic the SSE primarily pulling away when overclocking moving now to doom at 4k the RX 580 gaming X lands at around 44 FPS average alongside the R X 480 gaming X just behind the 980 TI and just ahead of the gtx 960 SSC the RX 580 stock leads the EVGA 1060 SOC stock by about 8.3 percent with the overclocked SSC showing some stability issues in its frame time consistency the rx 580 overclocked gets up to 50 fps and improvement over the stock 580 of about eleven point seven percent let's move on to a more realistic resolution of 1440 P the rx 580 game next card runs around 91 FPS average again posting an uninteresting 1.5% climb from the Rx for a DS position the 580 stock outperforms of the 1060 SSC by about 12% with the 1060 SSE running at 81 FPS average and with similar frame times and lows to the 580 game next overclocking the SSC gets it to 87 FPS average while the overclocked rx 580 gaming X it's about 100 FPS average at 1440p the 580 OC leads the 1060 OC by about 15% here I'm looking now at 1080p the RX 580 gaming X runs at 140 FPS average with 1% low at 106 and 0.1% at 104 the 1060 SSE stock runs on 23 average with lows at 92 and 90's the RX 580 stock and a lead of about fourteen point three percent with the overclocked 580 leading the overclock as a C by about fourteen point four percent playing for honor at 1080p with extreme settings the RX 580 game in Ex places around 93 FPS average with frame times tightly timed the GTX 960 SSC performed similarly running an average FPS of 94 with lows at 83 and 77 to the 580 77 and 73 overclocked into this game always it goes over poorly unless we really minimize the OSI to get anything stable or resembling stable on the gtx 980ti or as card for example we have to set the offset to just 20 megahertz not that impressive ignore the overclocked numbers here as the game is unplayable and abnormally sensitive to overclock we're only putting them here in this first chart so that it's understood so that you can see both the 1050 and 580 are basically unplayable with their respective overseas i'm leslie really really drop them down to near stock back to the focus of the chart the 580 gaming acts without performed by the 1060 SSE by about 1.7 percent with the 580 game index running about 8 percent faster than the 480 Gaming Act at 1440p the RX 580 gaming ex runs a frame rate of about 60 FPS average making it 4.7 percent faster than the RX for use 57 FPS average the GTX 1060 SOC operates at 61 FPS average leading the 580 by about 2.1 percent nothing significant or exciting between either device they are both good performers when operating at stock frequencies and for honor and they are imperceptibly different Sniper Elite is our final game for the video version of this review we only currently have 40 numbers for this one but it does give a good look at an intensive dx12 scenario the RX 580 gaming X runs at 40 FPS average here with the overclocked experience at 44 average that puts the 580 GX about 13 to 14 percent ahead of the 1060 SFC but with our overclocked and stock for that number 13 to 14 percent applies in each case we're trading blows between titles it appears and the synthetics in the form of 3d mark ashes to some extent and other tests can be found linked in the article below this isn't really a deep review because it's not a new architecture so it's a bit weird this is a mid cycle refresh between now and Vega and aims to pull the 400 series off the shelves and replace it with 500 series cards that are roughly the same price or slightly less in some cases so that's a good thing overall it's just the launch from what we've seen thus far is kind of met there's something really special about it but it's not bad either if you just bought an Rx for 80 for example and you're feeling a bit salty take solace in the fact that overall we're looking at percent gains of about 5% if you kind of average all the titles together sometimes it's a little more but overclocking the 480 basically gets you to a stock 580 in at least some of the games we've tested though you can see it in the synthetics as well in the article so overall it's a couple percent gain over the 480 not bad it's just it's not Vega and of course people have been waiting for that for a long time so it's not going to nothing will excite people in the GPU department until vehicle launches I think it's fair to say for the most part so this is not targeted at people who already have systems built and who don't need something unless it's a major launch this is not an upgrade it is a new GPU purchase if you haven't built a system for a while and you're looking for something that would be a 480 but now those are basically going to be killed and replaces the 5 Hades that's what we're looking at in terms of the 1060 versus the 580 debate the best thing I can say is look at the numbers and figure out what matches for the games that you play because they do trade in a couple of titles the x11 titles the 1060 tends to be a bit ahead that's really not news for NVIDIA the Vulcan title doom being the seminal example allows the 580 to lead the 1060 by a good bit and then in some of the extra 12 titles we see trading so images of the singularity they're roughly the same in Sniper Elite and D tends to lead by a bit at least over the 1060 SOC from EVGA so that's what looking at power is another big thing to look at if that's something you care about the 1060 is quite a bit more power efficient if you don't care at all about it then whatever I guess the testing was for nothing but if you care about power which you should because it correlates directly with other thing like Heath check the numbers see if they match with your build budget and things like that and your needs in terms of ambient heat output and all that stuff so this is a scenario with 1062 580 past the trophy back and forth there's nothing exciting here to say for that I apologize I suppose but it's not a bad launch it's just not exciting you can learn more at the link in the description below for the article which has some additional testing and other than that thank you for watching you can subscribe for more as always check us out in other videos coming out this week including the review of this card which is a 570 this one I'm a bit more interested in from a market stack standpoint thank you for watching I'll see you all next time you