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MSI X570 Motherboards for Ryzen 3000: Big VRM Designs for 16 Cores

2019-05-26
hey Ron right MSI's offices looking at the X 570 boards and I am joined by Linus Linus after the roast I wanted to offer this product to you it's the expanders II it's our new male enhancement pill this totally solves everything you just saved my computer and my marriage thank you oh I'm so glad to be of service before that this video is brought to you by thermaltake C 360 DD C hard tubing water cooling kit if you're ready to dip your toes into the water and build your first open-loop cooling system the Thermaltake c 360 DD c hard tubing kit comes with all the components you need the kit includes a three sixty millimeter radiator three 120 a RGB fans a copper w-4 a RGB water block for the CPU a pump and res DDC combo and all the fittings needed to build a full CPU open-loop learn more at the link in the description below so I guess that was our intro that was Linus from Linus tech tips will link him below if you want to check them out and the roast is now live on YouTube you should check that out or you can just subscribe to floatplane and get it there so the motherboards X 570 stuff leases to you as of the time this goes up has just talked about and announced the x5 somebody chipset for Andy's new lineup of CPUs we have some information on that we have some information on the chipset power consumption requirements the fans that you're gonna see on basically every motherboard with the new x5 so many chipsets and then all the V RMS and MOSFET information as we go down the line the first motherboard is MSI's X 570 got like for the most part a messiah has kept the same naming that they had for the most recent motherboard launches so God like a pro carbon and all the way down creation kind of in a different line on the end actually let's start with the fans so the chipset you'll notice all these boards have small fans on them these are 45 millimeter fans and they have three different profiles so there's balance silent and boost and then just depending on how much the noise bothers you you can change that the thing is with these because the new chipset is running at around 11 watts when it's under load it is significantly higher than the export 70 chipset which is about 5.8 watts so going up to 11 watts active cooling is not sure if we can say yet if it's a necessity but it certainly helpful the biggest concern I think anybody in the comments will have a preempted is about RMA and small fans dying so a couple years ago fans were pretty common on motherboards and the most common point of failure on them was dust clogging the fans and the Barons overheating we'll see how that goes but these are double ball-bearing they're rated for 50 40 50 thousand hours 2000 hours and they're connected by a cable not pin contact so if it were a problem you'd send it to MSI but hopefully it's just not an issue this is a resurgence of fans on chipsets though and that's one bring it up because it hasn't been really an issue for quite a while now so 11 watts versus 5.8 the difference is because of Gen 4 specifically PCI hn 4 for the lane allocation you're running 16 Gen 4 to the GPU which is standard and then for additional to an SSD the motherboards you'll want to check the manual for which slot is assigned to the CPU for m dot 2 because you you don't just plug it into any of them sometime do go to the chipset and in theory the latency will be a little bit better if it's direct CPU to 2m about two SSD communication rather than through the chipset so for the rest of it the chipset is of course running PCIe Jun 4 as well this is entirely Gen 4 there's no gen 3 on this and that is again the the reason for the boost in the TDP the the PCB on this particular board is different from the rest so the PCB is supposed to be server grade which is I guess a 150 GS material and we'll have builds I'd talked about what he thinks of that what that means as opposed to standard PCB material so check our builds would be arm analysis videos for those we will have those up shortly he's gonna have photos of these today the rest of it so this board is set up with a VR M that's running a 14 + 4 + 1 B core the SOC and B dim and then for the controller 235 201 we've seen a lot of those for the the MOSFET it's an IR 3 5 9 9 it's a 70 app MOSFET this is an eighth layer PCB creations a 6 layer PCB and then the others are other things we'll talk about as we go through them the launch date for this not sure right now if Lisa sue is going be announcing the launch date but if she does we'll post it in the comment section and pin it to the top a couple other specs of note be o'clock so we've got anonymous I in the past I be CLK and having it higher than 100 point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero and in the past spent 100 point 5 108 which does affect scores these are all going to be 100 flat which is fantastic so we're really happy to see that the memory stock frequencies should be 3204 to dim and then 2067 for for dam obviously you go through X and P or overclocking if you want to change that and then all these boards are daisy chain layout for the memory so not T topology it's daisy chains apology and that is also something that we've talked about in the past in PCB analysis videos if you're curious about those memory overclocking should have pretty good potential this time I'll talk about this more as the product of CPUs in your launch but you should be I'm not gonna give a number because I'm not sure how I heard it is but it should be better overclocking than previous generations on the memory from every frequencies there are no big BIOS changes by AMA sorry for this generation and this board we have a price haunts the godlike is supposed to be oh wait I actually can't say the prices so I guess you'll just get the prices for everybody else throughout the show and then Emma size will not be listed but if we end up being allowed to list a nice prices we'll put them in the comment section below so unfortunately can't give you those I'm sure it's a very lucky price though because that would I mean that would make sense anyway for the rest of the boards there's the mega x57 tas the spec on that one we've got vrm details as well that's 12 plus 2 plus 1 at 60 and power stage 3 5 201 once again and then the MOSFET is three five five five no OLED the other one has an OLED this is the game in Pro carbon it's a 10 to 1 v core SOC and then memory for the vrm this is a duel and MOSFET three one one one we'll talk about that in PCB analysis videos gaming edge not going to talk too much about this but eight to one on semi TBD for the power stages and then the creation down here is a six layer PCB the signifier for creation is 10g LAN and it's a fourteen to one vrm layout with 16 power stages ir three five five five as for the rest the biggest question now is power requirements and we don't have great answers on those but there's a 16 core that's well documented out there there's 12 core and there's other things below that 6 and probably 8 the 16 core we have heard it might approach something like 300 watts went over clocks with water and don't know what voltages don't know what frequencies but if that's the case then definitely more towards that end of the line is what you want for 16 core overclocking because as you get down lower end these are really not meant for the VR abs are not SPECT for pushing a 16 core CPU to 300 plus watts but again towards that half of the line they'll be better suited so we'll talk about that more in the more heart details as we get them as always check back for additional coverage at Computex you can subscribe for more or you can go to store documents access net to help us out directly I'll see you all next time
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