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hi guys builds I'd hear from actually hardcore overclocking and today we're gonna be taking a look at the first of the XIII 90 mother newsy 390 motherboards the MSI XIII 90 godlike and the thing is as far as I'm concerned the only thing god liked about this board is the price because it is $600 last time I checked and that is quite insane considering what you're like actually getting before that this video is brought to you by the Corsair strafe RGB mark 2 mechanical gaming keyboard the strafe mark 2 uses Cherry MX switches available in MX red and MX silent and uses the elevated key cap design that has become part of course there's keyboard identity elevated key caps make the keyboard much easier to clean with a blast of compressed air and limit dirt build up the keyboard use a metal body design of have received praise from us in the past in old reviews for high build quality learn more about the Corsair strafe mark 2 at the link in the description below before we get into all the vrm stuff like let's just talk about some of the features scattered around the board and address this PCIe slot situation because I saw a lot of comments when when photos of this board first came out talking about how this is totally gonna have like a million PCIe lanes but for those of you who know how you like for those of you aware of how you actually get a million PCIe lanes out of a CPU with only 16 you can probably already tell that there is a significant lack of a very big very expensive chip on this motherboard there's no P Alex chip or no P Alex switch anywhere here so the thing is these PCIe slots is are wired as 16 CPU so that's an X 16 on the CPU that's an X force law so that's a 4 on the CPU again this is an X 8 and the last one is a X 4 and that's on the PCH and the reason for that is simple there is no PL x chip there is no so what a PL x chip is is basically it goes between the CPU and the PCIe slots and it allows you to take you know sixteen lanes or eight lanes of PCIe and kind of turn them into like 32 ish kinda the problem is you you're still you know ultimately if you want to move a lot of data to the CPU you're still gonna hit the limit of that 8 X slot but it basically does mean that as long as no other devices using the connection something can actually get a full 8 X connection or a full 16 X connection to the CPU because the plx switch I mean the plx chip acts basically as a PCIe switch so that the CPU can communicate can better sort of balance the available lanes between the devices this motherboard does not have that and in my opinion that chip would have been like a really good justification for the price tag that this comes with because the plx chips are like $50 even when you're buying them in bulk they are really really expensive and there are a couple z 390 boards that actually have that chip this one's not one of them even though it looks like it really should have it considering how many PCIe slots it has but yeah it doesn't and honestly that to me is a hugely disappointing because it's like the board's $600 like if you don't have a PL x chip what do you have well they have a postcode so that's a good thing the starters in terms of OC features also down along the bottom edge you get a switch right here which allows you to control these three PCIe slots so you can turn those on and off you do not get control over the PCH slot so basically also with the situation on this motherboard it only supports two-way SLI but you can actually run like four-way cross fire off of this because crossfire really doesn't care how what kind of bandwidth you actually have hooked up it doesn't necessarily mean like run great when you run it through a PCH but you can do it SLI won't let you even like enable SLI if the what some of the GPUs are on a 4x connection so yeah the this only supports sort of to a sli even though it looks and you know looks like it could support four-way well it doesn't next to the PCIe on/off switch for the CPU lanes you get a bio switch so the board does have dual BIOS the BIOS chips are soldered onto the board as there are no socketed chips anywhere on this motherboard to be seen so that's kind of unfortunate but hey at least they're like there's two biases and you do have a switch to control switch between them so as far as I'm concerned this is good enough if you brick one you still have the other to use and use for unbreaking the for the other one so that's nice then we get the break your CPU dial I really really recommend never ever using that thing like MSI has low like they've built motherboards with this dial that and the the dials just loaded like with completely stupid settings like settings so bad that even with liquid nitrogen they still wouldn't be viable and it's just like I have no idea who decides some of these profiles it might have gotten better recently but honestly just don't like it's better if you just do all of your tuning manually because most of these OC profile like these are all just sort of preloaded profiles and the way they make these work is by giving them way too much voltage and even and sometimes even that isn't enough to make them work so it's kind of unfortunate below that we do find two rather useful buttons you have a OCFS one here which assume that means failsafe but the manual basically calls it a force entry to bios so that is a safe boot button it'll get you into BIOS even if you have bad settings set up you have a retry button which if you have memory training issues that can be very very useful to get the system to post memory settings that you know are pretty hard to run these are both basically extreme overclocking usage only especially the retry button if you need the retry button to get your memory settings to boot they are probably not stable enough for daily usage so you know it's not exactly helpful for your daily system but it is nice for for overclocking and benchmarking basically an extreme overclocking that kind of thing so next to that we find sort of the standard button load out of reset and power and quite frankly I am not a fan of having all of the the nice OC functionalities except for the post code although bottom edge of the motherboard because well I mean the board technically doesn't support it but you could well isn't doesn't officially support it but you could totally do a crossfire setup where you know you can't get any of those functionalities but uh because I'll be covered with a GPU but considering the PCIe slot PCIe layout that's not a huge issue but I'm still not a fan of having like the postcode miles and miles away from the rest of your sort of overclocking features and functionality because it's just like if you have this on the test bench right it's like which which edge of the board do you prioritize to be near the postcode or the buttons and a lot of the time you end up where I like with a GPU obscuring one or the other and it's just kind of annoying in my opinion so they should be together but MSI decided to lay them out like this I guess I mean it's not I did they kind of have a lot of space they could have used better up here in my opinion but this is what they decided for and at least you do get all of those features so that that's nice enough to have in terms of power connectors we get to eight pins up here and honestly a single eight pin is capable of handling easily 400 watts there's no problem pushing that because this has four ground connections for 12 volt connections and even by the lowest spec of this connector you're looking at least eight and a half amps per pin if you actually have like a better high current connector which this motherboard at its price point should really have and you have a good power supply that doesn't use completely you know crap cables the eight pin on the motherboard would be plenty to actually handle the power any amount of power that a ninety nine hundred K would want to pull except maybe ln two setups where using an extra four pin could help out in terms of the the the power handling situation but honestly like having two eight pins for frizzy 390 is really rather unnecessary if it was an eight pin and a four pin I I would totally understand that because you know it would like the four pin would at least take a decent amount of load off of the apron and there are some power supplies which apparently have issues with like the power supply side modular connectors getting rather hot if you pull a lot of power an 8 pin power connector which is more like a problem with the PSU you're buying them the actual motherboard like that the PSU shouldn't have that problem as far as I'm concerned but yeah for the for the motherboard side here like that this is really really unnecessary on z3 98 pin is plenty for any ambient overclocking 8 + 4 pin would be really where I would stop for ln2 though there's definitely no harm in having the the full eight and at that point because if you're doing extreme overclocking your power supply probably has enough has enough connectors to run dual eight pins at the same time now another connector we have here is a six pin for the PCIe slots which since this doesn't really have it like between the fact that like nvidia is straight up killing more than dual GPU setups like it's not supported anymore patent with the r-tx 20 series like on the 1080 TI's you could at least run for way for like fire strike and various benchmarks with the 20 series you can't even do that so within video straight up killing you know large multi GPU set up support this connector gets really unnecessary because well it's the the main function of that power connector is to basically help out the 24 pin when you have a lot of power-hungry PCIe devices and it's not like I would recommend running a you know like somebody might want like a raid card or something which can get very high power consumption and with certain like certain high-end ones can get really high power consumption the thing is you still only have 16 PCIe lanes here like that is probably not gonna work out for you so yeah it's just this this seems rather unnecessary if they had the PL x chip I'd get it because you could like cram this full of various expansion cards but as it is like you still only have 16 CPU PCIe lanes and 4 from the chipset on this slot down here so I'm not sure what this is supposed to power I guess somebody might run for way rx4 80s on on this or something like cuz that's like the only thing I can think of that would really necessitate the 6 pin or some other you know 4-way 3-way GPU set that pulls a lot of power from the PCIe slots but for normal builds this this is pointless and also if you are actually like going to be using this like this is like the worst place to put that connector just because you're either gonna have like power cables going like that across the motherboard or over all of the GPUs which just like in a normal build is gonna be really really awkward and I wouldn't run this motherboard and I have my doubts about this motherboards ln2 overclocking capabilities because there is a serious lack of low dropout regulators in this area of them well really just around the entire area of the CPU socket there's just not there there's a for Ellen 2 on basically all of the modern for a mainstream 40 nanometer CPUs from Intel there's a bunch of minor rails on those CPUs that you need voltage control over otherwise they called bog at minus 120 degrees and you really can't do anything about it if you don't have those voltage controls and normally the the way those are implemented is with a bunch of low dropout regulators sitting somewhere around the CPU socket except there are any of them on this motherboard at least not that I can see in the picture that I've been in the pictures that I've been provided so yeah this like so you know like for an extreme bang overclocking board this couldn't make some sense because they're there you might actually have a use for four-way crossfire four-way SLI but it's just like well SLI still wouldn't work because there's no plx chip but it's just like you don't even have the necessary it doesn't look like you have the necessary voltage regulators to go below minus 120 degrees Celsius so that again is just like for a motherboard that's called godlike and cost $600 not having a couple you know three like what even three dollars one dollar they're like three amp LDOS they don't cost anything like one dollar apiece and they don't seem to be here so that is just like right off the like that basically in my eyes disqualifies this motherboard from like extreme overclocking usage because it's nice that you know we have this really solid vrm up here which we're gonna get to very soon but there's no like the board's gonna shut down at minus 120 and that's that and you're never gonna get to use that vrm have lower temperatures and that's where it would that's where you max out the CPU you know you need to go cold first before you can crank up the voltage it doesn't do anything for you if you shove one point nine volts into a CPU at minus 120 it's just not gonna do anything so yeah the the lack of the sort of LDLs in this area is kind of concerning another overclocking feature that MSI has included is a clock gen right here from integrated devices technologies so yeah it has a clock gen which is pretty standard for all of the Z like going from z170 forward that's pretty standard on behind motherboards to have a clock gen because Intel split the BC LK regions for the PCI eSATA and I think PCH from the memory and CPU BC LK region so you can actually clock the VCO a b c lk all in like sky like kb like coffee like coffee like refresh really really high and so you need a clock gen for that since they that's the only way to go beyond the frequencies that the intel cpus can normally like normally be set to because your bc okay normally tops out at like 1:30 or something just in terms of what the cpu is capable of doing by on its own and then with a clock gen you can go up to like 400 megahertz or something note that it's actually practical to do that it's just a possibility anyway that pretty much covers the sort of the the random fluffy overclocking features that this motherboard has it's like I'm not really impressed mostly because of the lack of a P Alex chip and the lack of the L and what seems to be a complete lack of the extreme overclocking voltage controls so anyway let's move on to the VR M because at least there's something nice about this motherboard so this motherboard does not support the I GPU whatsoever there's no i GPU outputs on the rear over the motherboard and so this vrm right here is all v core and it has a lot of phases so you have one two three four four five six seven eight nine 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 phases and these are pretty much real as the motherboard has international rectifier ir35 99s on the back of the board but there are IR 3599 doublers on the rear and these are what I would consider a dumb doubler because the key feature of an IR 3599 is that it can do a quad quadrupling like that's the primary purpose of those is that you can build like in theory if you wanted to with with the voltage controller we have here which that's an IR 3 5 2 0 1 with a 3 5 2 0 1 and as many 3599 s as this motherboard is running you could in theory build a 32 phase there's a couple gigabyte boards that have done that in like the past on platforms where it makes zero sense to do that but gigabyte at the time out of thing four phases so they had to have more of them than everybody else so they built a 32 phase with with the with the 3599 and a different voltage controller but with the three five two zero one and 35 99s you could also do a 32 phase because of that the 3599 doesn't really have any advanced like current balancing features so basically it just takes the PWM signal coming from the IR 35 from the 35 to 0 1 the signal goes into the 3599 and then the 3599 just spits splits it in between a between two phases and it doesn't really worry about if one phase is pushing more current than the other which leads to slightly less than ideal efficiency for a doubling scheme if you have proper current balance you can get even higher levels of efficiency marginally so than if you don't have any current balancing whatsoever but considering the power stages that MSI is using here the current balance really doesn't matter like there's way too many phases and the phases are too good so the actual power stage is used here RT da wait what the hell is that that's a 4 not an a these are 2 TD a 2 and or is it 2 1 4 6 2 news from Infineon slash international rectifier because Infineon ball international rectifier so these actually have the International rectifier logo on them but it's you know it's all infini on at this point and this is the smaller sibling of the TDA two one four six two one four seven two which MSI has used on some other motherboards this thing is only good for 60 amps output instead of 70 but it does come in the larger packaging so these are rectangular power stages not square ones so these should be really easy to recognize for anybody who watches a lot of like a lot of my videos and there are some benefits to the larger package basically they have better thermal dissipation as a result of the the larger packaging since they have more surface area so that's nice but these are just 60 amp parts not 70 like the 2 1 4 7 2 s would be and unfortunately the entirety dat one 4 series of components just no data sheets they're completely just covered in NDA's so I can't get my hands on them and if I did have my hands on them then I still couldn't talk about it because they're nd aid so instead I will use the data sheet for an IR 3575 to get like a rough idea of what you would be looking at with some other top-end 60 amp power stage from international rectifier also because the IR 3575 datasheet is one of the few 60 amp hour stages that IR has put out like a full datasheet for so you do have a like really really powerful like 16 phase of erm here and the end result is that for a variety of settings at 500 kilohertz switching frequency and 5 volts gate drive now the problem is I do believe that the TDA 2 1 4 6 2 s will be slightly more efficient for any given switching frequency compared to the ir35 35 75 and also slightly more efficient across the voltage range that you're gonna be running into them like because they are the the TDA 2 1 4 series of parts or spectat 1.8 volts along with basically all of the other new large power stages which are actually smart power stages so they integrate car very accurate current monitoring and temperature monitoring directly into them as well as over current protection and over temperature protection so these are you know they're very very clever the thing is the ir35 2:01 basically sees them in groups of two so it doesn't actually see them as individual phases which is why the 3599 is like a dumb doubler because normally what hat there are ways to basically have voltage controllers and doublers that will then the doubler will still tell the voltage controller that there's one phase because the voltage controller literally can't control more than you know whatever phases it's pecked out for but the doubler then can actually current balance the phases itself if if it's uh if it has the logic to do that there are some doublers out there that do that they're just really really expensive in general so and you'll see them used on like top-of-the-line X 299 motherboards a lot and recently gigabyte has just crammed them into sort of their mid-range lighten up because they're using an ISL voltage controller and they wanted and doubler and I guess the six six one seven was just kind of what what they already had because gigabyte was using that part 4x 299 motherboards as well but anyway back to this mod 500 kilohertz 5 volts gate well just drive voltage which is the voltage that the power stages use to switch the MOSFETs on and off as well as all of their to run all of their internal logic so at these settings for the sort of various currents that you would run on LGA 1151 and I've actually kind of ok let's see so air cooling well let's just say ambient that'll make it simpler so ambient and you're gonna have a current range depending on what CPU you're you're on of about 150 amps I'm not gonna include the 9600 K just because that's an i-5 and I don't know why on earth you would stick that into a $600 motherboard quite frankly I don't know why you'd put a 9900 K on this motherboard either because again there's no P Alex chips there's no L like I still don't get what the appeal with this motherboard is supposed to be because it just looks like a lot of like I know with all of the armor on it it looks really fancy but under the armor I don't see anything that fancy so I don't see the like yes it has a really nice 16 phase you don't need that like you really really don't need that you just need a good like a good 12 phase or a good 10 phase he'll even in power like a strong 8 phase would be perfectly good for XIII 99 anyway so 150 a to about 200 a so 150 a would be sort of 8700 K territory and work and this range we're talking up to one point four volts mind you this is really hard to cool as I recently found out when I started overclocking my 8086 K if you're gonna run a V X which is where you're gonna hit these kinds of currents it is very hot like really freaking off the this kind of voltage that these kinds of currents but anyway so 88 the 8700 K as well as surprisingly enough well not surprisingly if you actually like follow CP like if you do a lot of power testing it's kind of obvious that this would happen the 9700 K actually sort of 9700 K 8700 K both sort of match each other on the vcore current poll because this has hyper-threading which literally just makes each core do more work and therefore use more power and the 9700 K has more cores but no hyper threading so each core does less work which actually makes like the 9700 k in my opinion is gonna be a really nice cpu to overclock because you're gonna have much lower thermal density compared to an 8700 k I got a 8700 K is just really really thermally dense because you're doing roughly like each core if you're actually fully using the hyper threading capabilities you're looking at about 30% more work done on each core which translates to about 30% more power consumption and about 30% more heat being produced by each of the cores which makes the 8700 K really really halt the 9700 K therefore could end up clocking higher just because it's easier to cool due to the lower thermal density due to the lack of hyper-threading well 8700 k 9700 k that are going to be looking at about 150 amps of current poll point this motherboard should be producing about 17 watts of heat which is great like it should have no problem dissipating that as long as all of the plastic armor on top of the heat sinks you know doesn't insulate the heat sinks too much from being able to draw dump their heat because ultimately you can build the best vrm ever and if you you know put it under a pillow it's still gonna overheat it just cuz that's what you know thermal insulation does anyway 200 amps which is where the 99 hundred K should land if you can actually run it at one point four volts which that'll be interesting to see cuz that should be really like that should just be hotter than the 8700 K in that point you'd be looking at about 20 watts of heat output for the 200 amp current figure so you know great efficiency for the VR I'm right there like what we're taught like this is basically comparable with a lot of like high end GPU VRMs and GPUs generally get much much better VRMs than motherboards because GPU cores pull way more current than the CPUs but now that Intel just keeps cranking up the core counts and you know we're still on 40 nanometer the power consumption on the the Intel CPUs keeps creeping upwards so the motherboards are starting to resemble starting to approach sort of GPU vrm specs and the end result is that this this light gets really really nice efficiency so the vrm is definitely nice and if it could run on ln2 then for extreme overclocking organiz you know sub-zero settings so dry ice and liquid nitrogen be sort of looking at the following current draws in this range so you'd be looking at about 250 amps which i would expect on about dry ice with like a 9900 k the 9700 K would really move to like that 200 amp figure or the 8700 K would move to that 200 and think you're just you know there it's not gonna like these aren't gonna suddenly jump like these aren't suddenly gonna jump in front of the 99 hundred K but so 250 amps for some dry ice overclocking you'd be looking at about 24 watts of heat for the for the vrm so again just absolutely no problem dealing with that and then going up from that - 300 amps output which that would be like Ellen - with a cold bug should hit around that 300 amp figure because you should be able to run up to around 1.6 51.7 volts ish you'd be looking probably around 30 watts of heat output for the V R M which again just should be no problem to handle in fact you normally you run lnto without any heat sinks because on LGA 1151 with how cold you can get these CPUs what tends to happen is that the heat sinks just turn into a massive condensation magnet and you just end up with an absolute lake in the vrm area which is fine if you have really good insulation but if your insulation isn't on point then you can very easily end up just like killing a motherboard because all of all of this freezes over while you're idling that just will freeze over and then you go under load and it'll defrost by melting all of that into water and then it'll freeze over again build up more condensation and then defrost again and it'll just get wetter and wetter and wetter the longer you run so yeah having an overkill vrm that doesn't even need any cooling actually tends to be very very helpful if you don't like going overboard on the insulation then unto assuming like if this motherboard I'm again I don't have pictures of the back so I'm not sure if the LD O's are just hidden on the other side but I don't know MSI has kind of stepped out of the extreme like Alan to extreme overclocking seen recently so I wouldn't be surprised if those LDLs really just aren't on this motherboard so it might not even be able to go cold enough that you could run enough voltage to hit the 350 amp area which the 9900 K should be able to do in terms of current consumption under full multi-core benchmarks there you'd still be looking at only about only about 37 watts of heat output on the vrm which again like should be no problem for the vrm to handle and then just for the purpose of you know seeing how how it would scale up past that 400 amps which I don't think is actually achievable on any of the CPUs that'll fit into the socket you might be looking at about 44 watts of heat output for the vrm so yeah you have a really really solid V curve erm and that's really really nice it's just that the rest of this motherboard is just kind of like I'm not sure what else like that you can get a good enough vrm for ambient overclocking on cheaper boards like much much much cheaper boards this thing's insanely expensive and this vrm doesn't really make much of a difference to the fact that this is insanely expensive you know at this price point even with this vrm hell if they cut back on the vrm and gave you some actual features like a P Alex chip or let's say the well the L do they should charge extra for temp quite frankly they shouldn't make a difference to the price but a PL x chip would be really really welcome in my opinion on a motherboard of this this price point like not having a Felix chip is just really weird as far as I'm concerned anyway minor V RMS are actually also really really solid so down here we have the VCC sa and vc cio these are both minor rails so I'm not gonna bother going over the actual heat outputs they're fine the like there's never been a board where these would actually be a concern even on like the super low end these just don't pull that much current both of these are controlled by this chip right here and that is a chip from Rome semiconductor so ro HM semiconductor and that is a PV where is in my notes three two zero five and for the MOSFETs MSI is using their favourites the well recent favorites the 4c 0 24 n from on semiconductor and I just realized that I don't have enough space in this area and a for C 0 29 n and these are actually like MOSFETs that they use for like their main phases on a lot of the cheaper motherboards and these are good MOSFETs like I like these these are actually really overkill for the purposes of VCCS a nvcc i/o as these are normally used for like straight V core power on a lot of other motherboards now msi makes and the for c 0 24 n is 2.8 million RDS on MOSFETs which is like 4 as far as cheap motherboard low side MOSFETs go this is probably the best low side MOSFET on on cheaper boards out there like MSI currently holds the crown for that yeah and here they're just using it for vc c SI + vc c io because they have a ton of these because they use them on a bunch of other boards and in stores like well they're overkill for this but I mean next to this vrm this quite frankly isn't that overkill like these could have had two phases or something and it would have still been like our next two because of that 16 phase that still looks kind of like a reasonable motherboard design decision right there so that's your VCC sa and vc cio moving on to the very last of the V RMS we have V deem which is a two-phase and unfortunately I don't actually have the datasheet for this chip because that is a monolithic power system so MPs MP 29 40 voltage controller 40 a and this thing's really annoying like it comes up on their search function on their website but there's no actual and like there's no dedicated like data sheets or like anything about the actual chip itself it's really weird it's like they wanted to list it and then somebody just decided now we're not going to put it on our own site so that's kind of weird but it does seem to like it is capable of dry like it should be capable of running a proper two-phase so this is and it would make sense that on a motherboard of this price point you'd have a real two-phase memory vrm so that's your VD right there and or VDD are depending on what you want to call it or VDD Q if you want to use the J deck term and the most fits on there are still you know for c0 24 ends for the low side so massive overkill and a for c0 29 for the high side again from on semiconductor so that's a really really solid memory of erm right there and that covers it in terms of basically everything on this motherboard you know very very expensive and I mean you do get a set of really solid VR ends but I don't see like I'm not seeing $600 worth of yarns like just know it's but that's just not here and even if there was $600 worth of erm you don't need $600 for ninety nine hundred K not like you you like it just doesn't make sense I know the ninety-nine hundred K is expensive but the this is just kind of silly the the price tag on this motherboard is just insane and the equipment that it comes with doesn't really reflect that you know it's just it's a high-end board definitely but like I didn't know who likes overspending on a vrm I mean it doesn't even have an ID like it doesn't even support the AI GPU itself like nobody's gonna use it for extreme overclocking just on the basis that it's a Ford in motherboard and that's ignoring the fact that it doesn't seem to have all of the necessary LD O's for extreme overclocking and then it's just like so what where is the six hunt like where is like the key feature of this motherboard as far as I'm concerned because it's like you don't have a million PCIe lines because there's no PL x chip there's you have a solid vrm but you can get Solid V arms for a hell of a lot cheaper than this so yeah I I don't get what MSI was trying to achieve with this right here you know it is impressive but it's just too damn expensive oh and on the last no MSI has finally like said that basically all of the capacitors scattered around this motherboard so like these guys I assume these guys as well are all made by Nippon chemi-con so they call them NCC capacitors for short but they are an important chemical and not say Japanese cap manufacturer they're really like well regarded as far as like their capacitor reliability goes and their capacitor specs as well so this is basically like equivalent to you're like well say gigabyte and asrock and Asus will use on their higher-end motherboards is like Nietzsche koneff P series capacitors that's basically equivalent here with with the MSI mode but yeah it's just like and even then it's like these makup asset errs could have been made out of solid gold and diamonds and I'd still tell you like it's just not worth it so impressive but overpriced is ultimately what I think about this PCB right here it's just like I don't I don't see it where where where where is the like I may be like I'm not actually sure how much the TDA 200 4 6 2 s are like cost and they're probably pretty expensive but there's better like that still doesn't justify the price point as far as I'm concerned like it doesn't like it still is like you don't need them so why so not that's it you know that's the Z 390 godlike from MSI it's it's a prep like it has a really impressive 16 phase B curve erm it also just doesn't make any sense in terms of everything else on the motherboard because it's just like there's a whole lot of erm attached to not a lot of motherboard as far as I'm concerned and then it has a $600 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