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Picking Parts for GN's New Production PCs - Pt. 1/X

2018-08-25
it occurred to us during the move that we are a media production company about computer hardware and we have no computers to work on in the new office we have one we have the old rendering machine it's well it's got some actually pretty severe GPU sag issues right now from that a or s10 atti it's almost literally falling apart at this point so that's kind of that's the only machine we have in here other than laptops so it's time to go shopping take out some parts we have cases already in mind spoiler alert have plenty of cases so two dark bass pro nine hundreds kind of likes them they're big and I'd rather have them under tables for work systems then on a shelf so we use two of those we have an NZXT noctus 450 from ibuypower years ago that has a special gamers Nexus nameplate on it so you got to use that and then a Silverstone PMO one just a case we've always liked for a lot of reasons so what we need to do now is take a quick trip and go shopping for other parts the hell is that 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just straight cores that has a bit of both but it has more frequency so we're gonna favor the Intel higher frequency part for Adobe from your purposes next thing we already Requested I found a flaw in our shelf design keygen okay sorry gigabyte okay well can't use that one we've requested a few parts from gigabyte I think I don't know if we got this for review or for it's for review or if we got it for the system I'm building but we can do a bit of both because we're setting out the power supply review stuff and incidentally it allows me to remove the board so this is AZ 370 or gaming board that we specifically requested from gigabyte some that are made apartment I think which is fine it still suits us so this is gonna be the main system so that's what we're looking at for the board and then we're gonna throw this in there so we've got an 80 86 K decent board for overclocking I'd really like to cut some fins in that but that's okay for now so that's at surf platform now we need power supply I don't know if I'm going to use like this one we might just keep out for review purposes because one of their first power supplies if not their first power supply so might just review that and pull like a Corsair unit that we're not using for reviews or anything I think we have some 650 s or eight fifties coming in from coarser that we can use so not sure on this right now may want to hold onto it for review instead and this is other stuff for review we're not gonna use any of it the production machines next part I know that for one of the other so we need to build five machines for ish one of them the main production machine is going to be a 286 K and some other parts next machine will either be mine or Patrick's Patrick needs pretty good core account pretty good frequency more of a balance between them then premier wants and that's for his software that he wrote that his frame rate analysis console analysis of teryan and frame rate performance in console games stuff like that so software hero we haven't super optimized it for anything so I'm thinking for him one of the two acts 99 boards and not actually I honestly it's been so long I don't even know the difference so let's look at these two boards the EVGA x99 boards are in test benches so we need to look at these separately so that's board number one what even is this board this is an X 99 a 2 that's convenient this is X 99 deluxe if I were in a store picking between these this I think this is the one that one of our patreon backers traded me when I met him met up locally we got pizza and he tried to meet the board so shout out to disturbed medic if you're if you're watching but we've got a choice between this one and the other what's the main difference here PCIe slots don't care vrm I can't tell from here what the differences are but they look very similar ok so looks like we review a lot of parts I don't actually memorize when they all come out the a2 is a more recent release it's one of the last x 99 boards that came out a 2 is a 2016 release the deluxe is I think a twenty thirteen or fourteen release and a 2's got some more USB 3.1 support then the deluxe does from what I was just reading on tech report which looks to be accurate as you can see right there there's there's your evidence of that so we may go with this just for the modern IO compatibility but still kind of a toss-up could could go with either one there so that's can go with both to depend on the CPUs we have available so speaking of let's see what CPUs we have available because if we have enough spare x99 parts I'm never going to use other than testing which we should have duplicates for that then we could go with two x99 systems so we have here's our h EDT parts i guess i'll show you the all the walkthrough here h EDT so we have a concern here in that anything that is going to get used regularly for benchmarks for overclock in live streams anything like that it cannot go in a production machine it's like we have 179 ATX e that is not going on production machines it needs to stay out for benchmarking the point of it is to make content and we can't have it tied up these are all desktop parts we have more desktop parts starting to fill up this one we've got a lot of AMD risin over here and the a series and FX series so there's an FX cpu that's currently checked out in my name for my production system off site and we've got rise and rise in more rising we have threader for somewhere i don't know if we we don't have a special trait for that so let's look at the h EDT stuff first 8086 k for the main production system we have sixty eight hundred sixty nine hundred k probably not retesting those and if we are not anytime soon 77 for TX the discontinued one that lives a very short life so we could put that on a machine kind of not a great cpu 4960 x probably not getting retested that's x79 i don't have any spare boards what is this 7800 or seventy twenty actually seventy nine hundred x with a missing capacitor we probably want to leave the 7900 out for testing and these would be x 299 anyway so that's that poses a challenge let's do this let's pull at least one of these for the x99 platform let me check the specs on there's been a while all right eight cores 16 threads whereas a 6 cores 12 threads frequency is comparable so we're gonna go with 8 cores 16 threads probably not retest the 6900 k if someone wants comparative data between this and the modern 7000 series HTTP cpus we already have it up there we won't rerun it anytime soon if we do we'll have to pull it but more likely will rerun this one if we keep that one out so let's pull this cpu out so that covers us for two systems let me put the over on the shopping cart I think this is where that goes okay we just restocked these by the way the gamer is a Nexus Cobalts beer glass with a gold rim if you'd like one there in the store not all of them come actually none of them come with a 60 900k so we've got 69 hundred k x9 board this one probably and 8086 k gigabyte board so we're covered there for some of them so we've got two platforms we need a video card okay also from the gigabyte RMA Department Thank You gigabyte we've got a 1080 di that we can throw in so this has been tested and abused at their department we've but we've done we actually I should go back and wow new generations or whatever this is a 1080i water-cooled card we did the 1080 version of this card that a reader loaned us actually a while ago and it did okay it the block is interesting you can kind of see it through there so that copper comes down and touches the vram and I don't know if this specific yes it does so this model also has a copper heat pipe in there that contacts the vrm and kind of hard to see from here but there is actually contact so it's cold plate to copper block that goes to the vrm and vram so vrm over here via heat pipe so basically one cooling solution is shared by everything on the card which means the GPU temperature will appear higher and it is but that's because it's sharing the solution with the other components on the board and all of them are going to be cooler so that'll be our main card probably for the probably for the primary production system get that sagging gigabyte card out of there that really likes the extreme extreme card was never really one of our top choices even back when we reviewed it the one that's in there now so it'll be great to replace it with this thing and that'll take care of the main production system so that's separate these a bit that'll go on this side this can go on this side as well and things on the way where should I put it that's going over there I guess right yeah okay also I should say people are gonna be like Steve's you're disrespecting Intel by throwing the processor that they gave you I bought it and I'm not disrespecting Intel I'm commenting on the commentaries Ram is next so we've got everything else Rams on the other side of the shelf so now we're in the RAM area is it really doesn't need to be there okay it's not Ram area and we have ddr3 ddr4 to choose from just upgraded to these trays they've hit 50 except each one uses like two slots so Patrick's done all of this organization I think I would love to have one of our four to five production systems still on ddr3 we might stick with an X 79 platform for that so the one that's currently a main production machine might turn into mine or Patrick's if the 6900 K system whichever one of us that doesn't accommodate we'll probably get the Xeon machine or change it to a 49 60 X or whatever that K what if that processor was called because that's ddr3 so that would allow us to tap into some of our ddr3 memory which is becoming increasingly obsolete and not getting any use at all I mean there's there's kits in here that were made for Nehalem because they told him packs of three so you can use a triple channel on the Heylin platforms so I this is like it's still plenty good memory but for the ddr4 system so we got to pick something we have a lot of core serve engines right there two of these kits are for GPU and CPU review platforms three actually and we have one duplicate right now so I'll pull the duplicate and then we have another duplicate on the way from Corsair that will be the same kit this is it so 32 gigabytes and it is 32 hundred megahertz CL 16 which one of these kits Bend really well for us but I don't think it was this one because I marked that one so I'll pull these four sticks and that will take care of we'll use all four for the main production machine we want 32 gigabytes in there just I mean because premier uses a whole lot of memory so that takes care of that we have another kid of this coming in from Corsair so that will take care of the other production machine we're gonna have two production machines that are for video editing one that's for what I do which is bit of everything one for Patrick and then maybe one extra so the coarser stuff will take care of the to editing machines not sure what I'm gonna use yet but let me go put this down almost damaged something so we'll I'll commit right now it's using an X 79 for one of them so still have a good x79 board it's an old like a C's one that came with black flag of all things so that series at the age of it Assassin's Creed Black Flag that is not the band but we'll put this in one of the Intel or rise in desktop platforms that's dual channel that makes way more sense it's sixteen gigabytes which is plenty for some of us but not for those doing video editing so pull that should pull a video card for the other editing machine okay so keke and what CPU did I use for the first one eighty eighty six K alright cool forty nine sixty X that'll go back in the system with a Z on it because the Z on kind of sucks it's got way more cores but the speed is really bad it's like three gigahertz and I can't work with that so we'll gently place that there and then I need a GPU for the other editing machine I'm thinking a 1080 Ti we need some of these for testing so this is CPU testing this is for like other component testing that I do can't go on machines we use daily could use the ACE use card I kind of want to keep this one or this is actually colorful we actually have some parts in the other room that I would I'd rather use a hybrid for this we're still making progress in this room this is gonna be the testing room I put in the cooler test bench oh that's actually one that I made this is a reference 1080i that that might be an okay fit I kind of want to keep it free for comparison versus the whatever Nvidia comes out with immediately for gaming so I might just pull here's the thing I think this card this EVGA 1080 TI I suspect is not rebuilt properly or is broken so what we'll do is we'll pull that one and use that well I'll pull it and pull it apart and see if I can get it functional if I can and that'll be our card for the second production machine because ii like video editing machine because it's not getting used anyway because it's been like broken for a while now so pull it apart see if i can fix it so that's that's video card number two so now i need to pick a card for either my system or Patricks depending on who ends up using the one with the 6900 k we saw earlier I'm thinking I want CUDA we use CUDA acceleration for a lot of stuff so we're gonna stick with a CUDA accelerating card and I'm thinking 1070 TI I have a couple 1070 TI's the one that we least need for review and benchmarking purposes is going to be the colorful 1070 TI it was fine wasn't particularly exciting but fine so we'll pull that that'll take care of my Carter Patrick's again whoever uses this system the 2.5 inch drives we reserved for the test benches typically our stuff is not I Oh bound so these almost never are a factor as long as it's fast enough to old games in the OS and then we have a bunch of em without two drives we rarely use these sometimes I get used for test benches like threader per h EDT systems these i think they're not particularly good but they're kingston drives 120 gigabytes of storage Bizon controllers I'd have to look at benchmarks and I probably will but I'm gonna tentatively pulleys for now will either use them and raid on one system or just standalone because the thing is all of our actual storage is remote as in not in the system being built so for things like media production for video files all that it's not stored locally don't need a lot of local storage don't need fast local storage we just need good enough we have a Samsung drive here we go so I pull this aside that's a maybe so that's a maybe for that system I'll look up the benchmarks later and figure out if it stays or goes and then we can buy another one if we have to and then this is an 850 I'm gonna leave the 960 pro alone for benchmarks so this is a samsung SSD 850 Evo it's MDOT - I think I bought this one and if not then one of the CPU vendors sent it to us so next we need cooler we have a good amount of coolers I can't pull an air cooler because I'm just starting some air cooler benchmarks liquid coolers we do have duplicates of some stuff but the thing is there's a whole crate of a Sutekh coolers of which I have many duplicates and that we haven't brought it over yet so I'll bring over the creative ace tech coolers there unbranded we're never gonna review them we've tested some but won't need many like duplicates of them so we'll pull that over and use that for all the systems it's a boring solution I'm sorry but the thing is we don't like despite having a lot of hardware we don't actually get to just use whatever we Keegan's helping my point here thank you very much we don't get to use whatever we want for whatever system we want so to make a point my system at home has an FX 83-70 that's under volted and under clocks cuz the motherboards garbage clearly i have my pick of processors but the thing is this business runs on making cool content benchmarking components and it's I mean it's what I want to do with the components and also it's what generates the money to keep the business going so we leave the good stuff out for testing and do not engage it in a system because once it goes in the system to pull it out requires downtime and that starts really adding up in terms of things that we don't want to do like take a production system offline pull the parts and test it for days so we just leave it out of the systems so we don't get to pull whatever we want which means that it is easier for me to just do the boring solution I'm pulling a bunch of unbranded Azek coolers for cooling for power supplies same thing we're gonna be testing some of these power supplies pretty soon with our power supply testing setup so I can't just pull whatever off the shelf because once it's in the system I don't know if we've invalidated that power supply by abusing it it may not be representative anymore I don't know if we have to pull it out of a system that shuts us down for a while so power supplies I'm gonna weigh down a little bit see what we test what gets through testing first we can pull it and use it otherwise I think Corsair might be sending some stuff out so well wait on the power supplies cooler is gonna be the ACE tech coolers we have a storage solution we have video cards and then we need to build a couple more production machines still but that'll pull those parts later so at this point all you need to know is that we're gonna be doing a livestream building of stuff I'm me working with Patrick who does the case testing these days we'll build systems during the livestream both of us working on them simultaneously we're hoping to do multicam hoping to do multi people on the stream so it should be a lot of fun should be pretty different and a lot of fun I think just for everyone to watch and for us to do don't have a date on it yet but check Twitter comm slash gamers Nexus for updates and hardware news and ask Ian episodes we'll probably update there once we're ready with a date on the live stream this video is more or less a note for the fact that we will be doing a live stream so yeah it's a little bit later on content than some of our other stuff but we're still setting up the office this is a big part of setting up the office and we wanted to let you all know that we're getting pretty close now to having something functional we just you know a couple more so everything's doing a live stream that should cover it so stored on cameras XS dotnet to pick up one of the bureau glasses that was shown this video we just restocked a lot of them I know they sold out within 16 or so hours last time so have you missed it their back story on cameras axis dotnet it's got the gold rim on it and then a cobalt blue glass with our tear down logo printed on it looks awesome you go to patreon.com/scishow gamers exit i was out directly subscribe for more I'll see you all next time
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