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hey everybody we're still here in the hotel room at PAX East 2016 quite obviously but I wanted to post an updated video addressing the question of should I wait to buy my GPU or build my rig for polaris or Pascal will do another one of these on broad well II and some of the new Intel CPUs as well and DCP is but for now we're just talking about Pascal and Polaris and before we getting to that this PAX East coverage is brought to you by CyberPower who make the fame book that conveniently we recently overclocked past twelve hundred megahertz I think of the GPU but let's talk about Pascal and Polaris so the question here previously should I wait or should I buy now in the video a few months ago I said just buy whatever you need for your rig just buy it several months out we have no confirmed dates there's no real rumors when these things are going to ship definitively so my advice was it unless you really just don't need to build a machine at that point the advice was to buy things have changed because these devices have gotten a lot closer we can reasonably expect at least an announcement from both vendors sometime around computex that tends to be their history and computex this year is May 31st to June something fourth or fifth something like that so there should be an announcement around that time frame it would be earlier in the show and if not then we can expect one definitely in the summer sometime so that known that puts us anywhere from about a month max maybe two months before at least some kind of announcement from one of the vendors if not both and the vendors being AMD and NVIDIA one to two months isn't that long to wait if you don't need a machine today this instant but there's a few things to look at here so there's gaming users who are just either doing mainstream gaming don't care about super high graphics there's enthusiast gamers and then of course there's the production audience and we address all those on the site because that's what we do we do production we do gaming with the production side of things the thing to look at of course is if you wait are you hindering your timeline to produce whatever the content is that you're making if waiting is putting you behind on rendering or if you need a machine to make money and obviously my advice would be by the thing you need it or at least a step between because you've got to make money and if you need a GPU to do it for CUDA acceleration or opencl acceleration from either vendor then you should just buy now don't wait because you sacrifice your income if you're a gamer or if you're maybe a hobbyist producer like for YouTube and you don't necessarily live off of it then these vice changes a bit so I would say generally similar to the previous advice if you don't need a machine this instant today if you can still get your gaming done if you're not going to be hit with work or vacation or whatever in the summer that will make it impossible for you to game and you want to do it now it might be worth buying a card but do note that within the next few months there will be announcements from the vendors officially finally posting some kind of Polaris or Pascal information for both and the Pascal test the p100 was announced at gtc not DC so it's obviously all underway Pascal has officially entered production polaris they've done several demos at the show is now we've seen the TDP demos and we know that it exists and is functional and that is probably being made on mass now if not very shortly so here's one thing you could do if you are ok with ignoring the question of waiting for Intel or Andy Zen is so far away I wouldn't wait for it we'll talk about that more later Rodwell e a different story and then the things after sky like I probably wouldn't wait for those either so that said one option would be to build your rig sort of for the most part today maybe get a lower on GPU use one of your old ones cannibalize it from an existing system and then just run like that for a month or two or maybe three until things are good to go one thing to note here is that a lot of people seem to expect prices will immediately drop on these new architecture ship historically that's not really been the case in fact as GPUs exit production prices tend to go up so you might see a little dip as the new skus for the same architecture come out like when the 980 TI came out the 980 dropped or when the fury x came out the other cards 3 90 x dropped a bit but that's different from a new architecture coming out entirely generally we see prices go up for existing cards and I think that's probably because they're trying to clear stock of course but the users of existing cards who wanted to sli or crossfire are now freaking out trying to buy their cards and some of them may not understand that you can just buy a new one and be better off with a new single GPU on a new architecture so I think that's why that happens but that's all topics so I would not expect price drops on GPUs and you can generally expect the new architectures we price about the same structure as the current generation it's been true for the past several generations high-end ends be 600 700 dollars somewhere in there and then the the low n tends to be 150 ish for the first card launched like the 750 Ti the r9 270x and somewhat previous gen cards there's another reason though that you should be a bit in between on waiting or at least aware of what happens so just because the new architectures launched doesn't mean you get your card that day or that week and that's two reasons one is stock they run out and two is that not all excuse are announced at once it could be the low end comes out first could be the high and that comes out first and there's definitely it's almost never the mid-range actually I cannot remember a time when a mid-range card came out first it's either cheap or expensive if you're going to be in one of those categories I guess it's worth waiting if you for sure are in the mid-range you might be waiting a bit longer could be several months and I would just consider building the rig put something in there that you're okay with for now and could maybe repurpose or rip it out of an old machine and use it and then buy the new ones if you really feel it's necessary when those come out or if you're doing anything specifically that you know of with the new AP is or VR it's worth waiting to see how those new cards react to that technology because that's been in development with these new cards so they will be built from the ground up well maybe not the ground up but from the mid up at the least to support the new tech so adjust some very quick and informal thoughts this is not supposed to be super technical video i'm in boston in a hotel room and I just thought I'd address it because we've been asked on the show floor a couple times my fans who approach whatever comments on the videos so I want to throw that out there but thank you for watching if you have thoughts on this topic just person below and get some discussion going my very briefly recap thoughts are if you're in production you need it for money it being the GPU and buy your thing and make your money if you're gaming and you do this for fun and you don't need a machine today because you have one today that kind of works pretty well then just wait and if you're a gamer who doesn't yet have their machine if you're trying to build it soon but you don't have something that you're playing right now then it becomes a question of how patient are you what's your time look like in the summer in that case you have to decide what you're doing there but that's kind of the brief thoughts thank you for watching comment below all that stuff patreon petrol video I'll see you all next time