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we're on day 3 video 2 of our sort of extreme overclocking rig except it's not it's not using that exotic of a cooling solution we're using a giant 78 quart ice bucket and we're insulating everything differences this time I'm insulating it better well I school everything so the cpu included not just the GPUs and we have these Titan RT X's that are under 20 80 TI water blocks to this in part one these will also be sub ambient cooling so pretty excited about the the performance there and the goal is to see how high up the leaderboard we can get for overclocking referring back to the RIP J series but J went with dry ice I I really want to see if we can get close to his score without dry ice just by using a 90 90 d XE and to tighten our t axis just just like $7000 of hardware basically because he was on a 79 80 XC and 220 ATT ice which is what we used originally then he had a dry ice we're gonna see if we can get up to where he is just by using the refreshes of the hardware and slightly unlocked Titan RT X and we already did some board insulation in part one as well with the kneadable eraser and shop towel everywhere so now in part two we're gonna do two browning and finalizing some of the configuration for the hardware side of things before we start considering BIOS and software settings and most of that will likely be in the live streams before that this video is brought to you by the gigabyte z 390 ARS master motherboard which comes equipped with one of the more powerful Z 390 VRMs for heavier overclocks on the new 9th gen intel cpus the ARS master is also one of the few motherboards with a real heatsink this generation featuring a mix of high surface area fins and looks oriented cover blocks oh and it's also got updated our DV illumination learn more at the link below okay so we're just gonna cut this together really quickly where we're gonna insulate the back of these it's something you already saw in part 1 it's going to keep it short I am the point of this insulation is to block air from hitting the card and forming condensation because the front of the card the cooler will be below ambient that will form condensation on the back and we just need to be careful about that look metal so that's the the biggest concern here all right so that's gonna cut down a lot but that took like 20 minutes or something it's pretty pretty meticulous so we've got some kneadable eraser on there I left the area with the shunt resistor that's got liquid metal on it exposed so I can easily access it one problem is if you put too much liquid metal on and I did put a lot on this time I don't wanna do much less than this maybe do too much then it'll just trip and protection and you'll be like 35 megahertz so I left that exposed that way if it is too much we can remove it and if you do too little it just it doesn't change anything so hopefully this is a good middle ground where we get boosted power target by tricking the circuit into thinking we're drawing less power than we are without breaking it and it's not a permanent break you just remove it you're good so it's not a big risk I should know that liquid metal on cards isn't a great idea for long-term use period but it's fine for what we're doing which is competitive benchmarking so now we need to figure out the tube length of everything that means starting to install the actual test bench itself oh yeah we can do that actually I have to take all the fans off of this to moderately successful removal of everything we have a pile of mounting hardware in the bottom of the radiator so this is the Mora 360 rad or no it's the more a three rad and it has it had four 200 fans on the front and it can fit nine 140 s on each side so we had four 140 s on the back for 200 on the front before realizing that's enough don't need more than this this was for the previous project still connected to the fan controller and all of that's taken off now including the special bracket for the 200s and now we just need to prepare to submerge it in the in the tank and the ice tank we also have a pile of screws so if you ever need some 200 mil or some some screws for all the 200 fans we've got them this mounting rail kit also comes off there so we never showed this process when we did the build the first time but it's got these two rails that go on to provide screw points in the middle of the radiator and then that's used for like the 140s or the 120s or whatever you may use and then the 200 to use the the big one but we only had one of those for the front so because I got to get those the mounting hardware out of there and then we can start preparing to submerge it the water cool maura 3 is is fun for everyone it's fun for the whole team and now it's time to transplant it I think into a into the bucket to start planning that phase so I'm gonna move it and then get the the bench here let's start building that out run all the tubes and figure out the loop order that's gonna be the big thing to do I always have to think through that kind of before really committing to it because there's a lot of stuff going on in the in the loop so we need the bucket this has been here since the last stream that's a 540 radiator if you didn't see that one it has a bunch of ek Furious fans which are insane 2500 rpm we still have some insulation on the CPU loop and the cooler is covered in debris from the ceiling tile from when we were doing some electrical work so it's time for this to come out I guess it's still still got water in it I need your assistance can you hold this for a second ok thanks yeah let's elevate it just to get this high enough that I can empty it into the bucket later oh that's pretty stable I guess I should take the feet off of this too let's see how this fits oh yeah this so this thing I just remembered as I was I almost came into contact with the fins these fins are absurdly sharp like I sliced my fingers open I was working on this the first time and it it was not pretty so really sharp if you do happen to buy one just be aware of that I think I need to put it in like this so the tubes are up and I'm trying to keep my fingers clear of the fins that's pretty good we'll have 60% coverage and then I can just like suction cup pumped a pond pump to the wall behind it and then that'll circulate water through it so one of the big things here is keeping water moving to get the warm water away from it and we'll do that by sticking a pond pump in there still on loan from Ritchie and our patreon tide need to send that back to him I don't know if I can get this more submerged than that really I mean like maybe I guess I can do this that would get us a little more submerged Oh a couple things I should update everyone on this so after the whole ripped Jay everything was done last time after Jays last response we have that review cycle for a whole bunch of products and part of that review cycle involved me removing the lid again from the 79 80 XE for testing against the 9090 DXE which was not publicly out yet or announced and in the process of doing that this is after Jai's response I removed the lid and reapplied it and then the the temperatures for testing dropped significantly so what had happened was in doing the extreme testing versus Jai somewhere along the line moving the CPU around the lid got got kind of pushed the jar enough now this was never in any of our official testing or reviews or anything like that it was just in the rip J competition but I got pushed around enough that the the thermals were significantly higher than what they should have been so for the GPUs in the ice bucket they did great the CPU was way higher like I mean it was some of the cores weren't really contacting the IHS properly which resulted in in the IHS well I mean it resulted in basically lower clocks than we could have gotten so realizing that we had a bit more room left in the CPU I think I did not know that we were so thermally constrained because I didn't think to really check so okay well this is good for that it's only one radiator it is quite large but it's the only one radiator so I don't I don't know I'm thinking loop order is GPUs they're the most thermally dependent and then the CPU my concern is that the GPUs are going to be limited by the v bios and i don't know what to do about that yet that's gonna have biggest limitation right now so it'll be reservoir water it goes down it goes into the inlet on the dual DDC pump there's an EK dual pump comes out and the dual pump is kind of necessary for how much how far we're going to be pushing this liquid comes out goes into the radiator so it is now the coldest that can possibly be so at this point it should go directly to a component and that's gonna be with this into a GPU and then that GPU will go into the second GPU in the middle of the board so this tube will go to a GPU here that GPU will go to this GPU and I don't think I have a terminal to connect them I think we'll just run a loop and then that'll go into the CPU and then the CPU will exit and go into the bottom of the reservoir with this hanging thing so I don't need I don't need much to connect those and then then it will loop so that's going to be our loop I think the bench probably positioned about here give us the most space for a monitor during a live stream something like that yes I probably want access no give it back I upon access to the button so I'll keep this probably oriented like that all right so then this will connect back into the radiator and I don't think I even need to retube anything for that or into the reservoir I may not read either so those would hook up there I don't I haven't really checked the performance on they used to see what your overclocks better I did it overclocked them but I didn't test them versus each other and I need more extreme scenarios so that will go there and have to disable that fan down there I think I can do that in BIOS though that PCH fan that's gonna create airflow that I really don't want anywhere close to video cards but I'm pretty confident I can disable that in in BIOS the cool thing of this radiator is that it runs cold enough without any fans that without even ice I can boot it get into BIOS and change whatever I want and it's not going to overheat for a while so okay just in case I accidentally do turn this fan on at some point I'm gonna block its its exhaust so this fan there's another piece that goes here typically it's a plastic piece we currently have it removed and the fan will push the air down that funnel and down this this chamber down here and it exhausts back here somewhere it's meant to go out this way out of the i/o so I'm just gonna obstruct it just in case I mean my plan is to disable the fan but just in case I'm in a live stream and I some reason said all the fans to max will be covered sockets itself that coppers so so heavy this is an interest in water block I'm really curious to see how it performs okay so we'll use these slots for clearance make sure I have a bridge that'll reach that gap yes okay cool help it got me I can't leave now I don't know if these would be significantly improved with the real envy link bridge like the actual super expensive one with full bandwidth and resource sharing and all that stuff I don't know that that really matters for this kind of test where that's even supported in time spy okay so Wow so water comes out here go into one of these all right I need to see what parts we have I don't know what liquid cooling parts we have so check if I know we have a lot of fittings and stuff like that I just need to check if we have terminals we have been of miscellaneous alpha cool stuff we have liquid cooling fittings plenty of those from all brands Xbox 360 cooler no thanks none of these are gonna be good bridge GPU clean parts GPX upgrade kit wow that's that's sunblock hmm okay now okay nothing here so I gotta check a different shelf GPU dual link that's interest that's that's promising let's see if this will fit yes if it doesn't I will probably regret not using two ek blocks instead this is from water cool okay I got it mixed up I brought out a threader if it thing you're not gonna use so there's our water cool bridge that would also need to be completely wrapped in paper towels but then that would make my life a lot easier yeah if it fit and it's not going to do that I'm being told by Ritchie c77 we just had part one of this live and he he helped me with this with some of the parts sourcing for water cooling parts when we did our first round of this cuz Jays got a massive inventory of it and I didn't and he just messaged me after seeing our first part of the video shout out to Ritchie c77 he's on the leaderboard - he says dice for Jay dry ice for Jay was more based on an experience so he's he's more or less saying that it's worth trying just be careful with it the first time trying it out and that chilled water and full coverage can be tricky to deal with for condensation that will build on the backside of the block which I am aware of but also not positive how to solve sort of just blocking every possible entrance for air so I probably need to go over this these some more with with paper towel but will will go ahead and finish the loop planning before I do that but this thing that I stopped to look up in the first place let's see the necessary stereo plug is not included GPX to link covers okay so covers all common configurations of two or three video cards okay one cover bridge to close the unused slots I see okay so we're not gonna be able do anything with that which means I'm just gonna run tubes for all of this so asking Ricci see for his thoughts on how I can best use a full-coverage blocks like this because previously previously I just used the supremacy block and that was pretty easy because I it's one block and I just kind of covered everything around the block with paper towel but now we have this whole full coverage block and there's contact obviously everywhere on the card some stuffs not flush contacting so condensation could form there so it might be easier to go with the supremacy blocks but we'll see I would really prefer not to these fittings have been extremely useful what are these even called I don't know ek hfb fittings I've just I've liked working with these they are easy to install and remove and it's pretty cool actually this one doesn't fit but you just stick an allen key in there I don't know if it's I guess a 10 millimeter allen key and then you can tighten it like that so these have been great to work with I think I probably want a right-angle one on one side of the card though so he's got a good point here Ritchie says that blocking off everything blocking off everything to the card like all possible entrances for air should stop a condensation whatever air is left inside of it will condense so that's a point of concern but he does say it's a minor amount and then he says he ran the titan v with a full block and all of the exposed areas had condensation on them so maybe let's I don't know if he did I think the chilled water I think you did what we're doing so we just need to be careful with making sure nothing's really exposed alright cool so I'm getting a bit more confidence as I talk with Ritchie our our patreon backer who happens to have some some top 10 extreme OC experience recently getting more confidence that this is is not going to be terrible as long as I just block everything with a shop towel and we I'm just going to finish installing the fittings and stuff and then we'll go ahead and do that so this we're gonna have water in and then out here in that should be a rotated one as well that's good and then loop alright sweet that's gonna be pretty nice so I don't want to use this one that one's got a problem so it's gonna be tube straight into here both sides so basically the loops gonna come over from over there out of the big radiator quick disconnect just to make things easier it it impedes flow a bit but we should be fine so QDC and then tube with QDC straight into there so this will be the first card first device in the loop and then exit and then go straight into there and then exit and I'll disconnect this one and just strap it straight there and I should probably do a cutie see there as well otherwise not gonna be able disguise clip so probably do a small really is really small loop right or cutie see right there that goes into the CPU CPU connects to the reservoir the reservoir exits and goes into the dual DDC and then the dual DDC goes into the radiator on the other side and we'll have a pond pump for the rest think that covers the the idea here the concept so now I just need to to tape the rest of these up and make sure I'm covered on the condensation front so that's that'll take a little while but will will burn through that pretty quickly in the editing at least okay so we're leaving for CES tomorrow or today depending when the video goes live and we don't have a ton of time here but we have enough time do one quick test with the RIP J system ji I understand he responded I don't know I don't watch his videos but I think he responded and I think he did a single GPU test so he J you're pulling a Linus it's what you're doing right now you're you're winning the wrong benchmark you're in the race too no one else is in so we've got two GPUs set up which is still what we're doing and bucket of ice salt in it and my goal is again to beat J's dry ice score from previously his Allen T score doesn't apply because he didn't do it with two cards so we were still competing against a dry ice score without dry ice and if we can beat that that'll be the cool part we've upped it to tighten our t axis though and this took long enough that we got our new the old mugs in in the time we were working on everything but we'll have that on the store on store that game is X its Donna if you do want to check those out separately so a test bench really quickly cuz I want to be done so we can fly more a three radiator in the ice bucket ice salt on the ice to lower the freezing point to about negative eight degrees Celsius we have closed it a little bit but we have a pond pump in there close it when we can to keep some of the cool air down Dooley to see smallish reservoir dual Titan our T axis everything is insulated like crazy and then we had briefly two power supplies hooked up I've cut it back to just one and that originally was so that we could run them on two separate circuits so that we could ensure there was no V droop in the line okay so there's a we're running off one power supply now which has been sufficient having an issue where I'm getting a shutdown at 1.5 volts and it seems like OCP but I've tried two different power supplies and it still does it so not sure what that is but we can still beat the score without 1.5 volts even though it would be nice to have that so we get five point three gigahertz all core we're still at 5.1 5.2 so let's run a couple benchmarks and then get on a plane so I can go see J in person okay so we just booted it up and it currently has similar settings I've just pushed it to 51 all core but it has the same settings as our previous 99 80 XE livestream and we're at 33 mesh 51 all core 1.95 just put it to one point for two bolts for V core so this is basically the not currently trying profile it's the let's make sure it's stable profile we're at 3800 megahertz so all we're doing is just seeing if this thing actually will run presently because well it's freshly assembled so that's the first test okay so I haven't really stability tested these to see where like I know where one of them performs based on the review but we're just going to conscience some numbers that are probably stable and see where that gets us and then 11 20 memory 170 offset core max power not gonna do any hotkeys or any of that this time stone don't really feel like it right now we've cut travel immediately so let's see what our baseline is with these settings might as well close gpu-z I'll check the temperature okay GP is kind of hot 10 degrees right now our target it's normally about 8 and CPU is at 19 so okay well first test pass is done J's 2 cents fifteen thousand four hundred fifteen thousand four hundred fifty five dual GPU and we just did 15,000 826 without trying before getting on a plane dare Bowers at 16,000 248 and I'm sure he hasn't tried in several months but with more time we can potentially catch up to dare Bower but I'll take that 170 megahertz offset core 1120 memory your move Jay I guess it's kind of a lot of work to do one test so if you could like do something that'd be good so Jays Jays moved on to ellentube for single GPU because his to tighten RT axes are tied up in a pretty build he's making so I don't know hopefully Jay breaks out the Titan RT access to do do some real work see some benchmarking and and comes back after CES but for now in the very least we've knocked them down the dual GPU charts will probably do some live streams after CES at some point within maybe two weeks of coming back from CES so keep an eye out for that but for now you got to see a pretty cool overclocking setup that was used once and we're gonna go get on a plane thank you for watching subscribe for more you can go to store like Aaron's access net to pick up something like the new copper meal mug which is hopefully up there by the time this video goes up and otherwise you'll see me on the show floor so I'll see you all next time