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Render Rig Rebuild & Premiere Multi-GPU Disappointment

2017-07-22
one hour and 13 minutes is what premiere or the Adobe Media encoder says it will take to render our video that just went live the cpu stream video so this is just another render pass of it to see how long it took we're sitting here looking at a one hour 13 minute mark and that's not really improving so this has been a problem for us upgrading the cameras did a lot of things for us one the cameras got way better ergonomics we can make better use of it get a better b-roll shots to it is technically better in the technological sense it is superior in every way more mobile better than low-light all those things unfortunately rendering the footage takes a lot longer because it's 4k and it's a higher bitrate we're doing 50 53 megabits per second or something like that now which is 2x from what we were before the camera capture is that whatever it is 150 or nearly 200 and Japan was studying to use so it's an improvement in everything except render times at an hour to complete the render we're looking at days where sometimes if we push back recording too late because this is a daily operation we don't in fact have weeks of content in the pipe pushing back too late in the day means we're waiting an hour to render and then we're waiting probably an hour to upload and then we're probably waiting an hour for you to the process it then we're probably waiting 30 minutes for anything other than 360p to become available so it's a problem so we can speed that up by upgrading this machine a bit and increasing the rendering speed by going to a different video card setup because we do use CUDA so that's what we're going to do today we're going to upgrade it we have some benchmarks on rendering these videos just from log files and we'll be able to see what the improvement is there we're also going to retest some blender animation rendering on this specific machine not the production machine we built the other day so we're going through all that today while I'm in there I'm going to replace some fans that are making awful noises so should be a fun build blog before that this coverage is brought to you by the core g21 enclosure from thermal take a $70 case with 2 4 millimeters thick tempered glass side panels mesh ventilation in the front for breathability a rarity in cases these days and a power supply shroud with top mounted SSD sled learn more at the link in the description below ok we got to carry it in the other room we should wash that out so we think we updated this in maybe December we did a video on it last time - it hasn't been maintained so the dust is from December oh yeah I do remember this these stupid screws hold that thing in pan oh this is that be quiet power supply so if they're not already plugged in I have them somewhere else doesn't look like I anticipated adding a another video card yeah there's not this is the only one in there ok TUC TUC tall the way in the back corner of a closet back in the this stuff goes away soon pile where's the box for the cable so you want one of these I could undo everything and do it the right way and take the power supply out of there or I can fight with it until it does what I want which I guess is what I'm gonna do okay this needs to be yes okay cool it's good all right sweet not as bad as I thought okay so I kept us another cable doesn't Oh correction other two Gables okay 120 oh wait this is going to suck yeah place the front line oh yeah in the middle the middle ones disconnected because it was causing the same problem of the front ones closet now so the 360 is only had two fans operating which is fine it was still plenty cool but it could be better these are those enter max anti dust fans they spin backwards when you turn them on they're supposed to expel dust from the system which is a cool idea unfortunately two out of three fans have not caused problems the same on for each one and that is they make this grinding noise that's really annoying just kind of throughout operation the middle one I disconnected because it's making the same problem the front one I was like I'm not going to just connect two out of three fans we're just going to stop it and start it a choice goes away but a better solution get rid of it well we're in here anyway there's not only can he dusted it or anything how's the radiator work readers doing pretty well all these dust filters are doing their job so that's what you want you want to see no dust in the radiators which really not much in that one either so good job Silverstone this is a Silverstone case it has a dust filter in the bottom has a giant dust filter in the front where all the intake is not that it's relevant there's dust filter on the top as well so good job on the case is a PMO watt if anyone cares I'm certainly happy to recommend it see no dust after seven months of use all the dust is exterior and we've cleaned the outside a couple times but haven't done anything serious so great news there okay don't also look pretty good I mean the fans look fine there's really not much doubt that they can you see that like I mean the dust is really not not there how much of that is well there's and say how much of that is attributable to the fan I think that's probably minimal I think what we're seeing is the effect of the Silverstone case but I don't relat ate it anyway okay so we need new fans can we get that one out I think we're gonna leave that want to leave that one in there as a reminder of the mistake to use these fan you can so these are 120 s what do I have for 120 and they exceed do we have other NTSC pens oh I do have n DXE pants hang on I forgot about these this sent these with all their toxic I'm not going to use the RGB you on the RGB LEDs will never be seen did you only send RGB fans okay now he's in ours there's one for T's I think there's a 122 pack Oh a 2-pack 120 ok we're in business hopefully I don't need to actually test phantom time soon I say as we're ordering knock to offend us the funds we want this how do we install the fan ok alright so step 1 this is remove the trim then how many instructions on how to install a fan ok well thanks everyone for watching that's it for this time not sure what to do next so testing fans is difficult for a lot of reasons pressure testing all that stuff all requires anemometers or wind tunnels or all kinds of special equipment to really do it properly and do it justice so hence we don't really do a lot of stuff with fans but this content with whatever they're called Noctua should be pretty interesting I think we do have knocked with stuff coming in for sure the magnetic oh that is magnetic okay excellent not much point in managing these cables but whatever let me grab this just get the rest of the dust just a lot of dust to get off okay but seriously on dat that from the bottom of my heart thank you for the dust rag and thank you for the patience on the fans they are now being put to use okay what does even collegeplus say what they call air f 120s that's what we're using their airflow fans in case you were confused and thought that they were the type of fan that doesn't cause airflow there's no sleep really quiet and I hope I hope NZXT I hope and I am fairly positive that we won't have another one of these we're just starts making all kinds of weird grinding noises and causes me to reach up there and just hold the fan until it slowly goes to sleep and stops making noises okay are we actually going to do videocard need a video card from the video card shelf okay these were hidden in the background of one of our videos recently no one cared um we're going back to 1080i shelf and I'm going to grab this time the gigabyte 1080 TI which is my least favorite of the ones that we've reviewed and we're not going to work with it again because it's my least favorite just I'll explain in the other room so this card this is going that was least impressive to me it's the biggest we have 1080i is that a representative of 1080 T is for future game benchmarks we have enough to do SLI testing if we want to not for project so I have one to spare for a build especially one that's going to be used at work every day for rendering videos and it's still a 1080 TI so it'll still render videos just fine but I just don't find it particularly exciting to revisit I don't think we'll ever revisit it I think we're far more likely to revisit something like the Asus card which was really impressive for the noise and cooling performance or maybe hybrid cards or maybe the gaming x4 being a dual fan cooler that competes with the three fan cooler those there are lots of reasons to revisit and bar benchmark again and again and run game tests going forward into the future as new games come out but we don't need all of them to do that some of them can be used for rendering tasks and production machines like this one and this one is just really not I mean to me it just looking at all the other ones we've now reviewed since this came out this is really not an exciting card to me so I like to use these types of devices our least favorite ones for our work machines because they are the least important for the actual work that is produced on a daily basis but they can still produce work that if you follow me there this is awful look at this thing talk about sag cheese oh by the way this has 980ti for those of you who missed it this is actually a Titan X Maxwell I forgot Titan X Maxwell I put that hybrid cooler on it because it's better okay alright Titan x times got a new buddy Steve reviewers calling the Titan X card from 2015 are doing a disservice by calling it Titan XM you're adding confusion because when I talk about Titan X I'm not talking out the Titan X I'm talking about the Titan X so that's AG maybe we should start doing psych testing holy crap I mean the good news is that'll make it to that the Maxwell card can breeze which would be around 10 there it is that's where it really is so we should be that there whatever please go up here you might be saying to yourself see why bother with the cables at this point you didn't hide the fan cables and to that I would say you have a good point do any nestled I've read to be on a nice lie bridge for premiere right I don't think so doesn't care about us a lie okay might as well put these in otherwise I'll lose huh hey hi they plug everything in yes this front glass filter we really should just clean this is what a company that's paranoid of you taking up the case by your front panel and dropping it does I put screws in the front panel because they think their users are going to hurt themselves or their components which is probably true 80% of the time see what I say by true eighty percent of the time and thanks to being liquid cold everything is still breathing okay by breathing I mean it's coin okay it's plan out breathing okay but it is coin and none of this got sucked into the radiators which I'm very happy about rage for the cleaning radiators really sucks snowflakes Nippon okay that's not helping with my dust problem there are cut hairs on my hands now you're going to get back into the case okay side panels they better turn back on so I thought okay so long story short after doing our livestream in the middle of working on this video if you missed it by the way we worked on this EK water setup but anyway we got a system set up and going I ended up swapping the 1080i into the top slot to get some extra performance out of Premiere and our blender render times have improved by nearly 2 X so our test render was 1 frame from the new intro animation just at a lower resolution 40% to 4k and that rendered at about 12 to 13 minutes with the Titan XM single card previously and with a 1080i and the Titan XM in there it's rendering at about 6 so that's huge that is a massive upgrade for our ability to render things locally on that machine a not have to build a special machine for it and also to rapidly prototype animations and renders and stuff like that so good news there the less-fortunate news is that premiere as we found out in research and found some great articles on Puget systems premier doesn't really seem to care about multi-gpu at all like zero does not care and I knew that was the case years ago but I was hoping that by now they would have fixed it and it's not I mean it's just basically we get a couple percent fit 1 to 2% faster with a 1080i over-tighten X M big deal and the second card is just not really utilized at all they are accelerators they're not the renderers and that means that ultimately your bottleneck is the cpu so what do we do well to fix it we could do something like keep the x79 set up keep the windows installed and swap it to a Xeon processor from the same era for 200 bucks off of ebay and it would have four more threads at a two point eight gigahertz speed rather than four point four gigahertz before fewer threads whether that's worth it I'm not sure I might try it just because it'd be kind of fun and there's no real harm in trying it but that would be the next step short of building a completely new system which I just don't feel like doing right now but yeah so premier is hitting a bottleneck on the CPU with CUDA rendering that certainly speeds things up a hell of a lot but not in a way that takes advantage of multi-gpu unfortunately and ultimately premier is pretty poorly optimized as software anyway as we've come to learn particularly if you look into solutions like network rendering which just isn't going to happen unless you buy a third party rendering tool apparently so we'll look into that as well as an option just if we could export stuff to another system that'd be great but for now blender two times faster that's pretty good fans that don't make a lot of noise the system is pretty cool overall and everything's going cleaned up so that's it for this one as always thanks for watching you can subscribe for more gamers actual spot net for the articles as 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