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everyone I'm joined again by Scott Watson this is our third and probably final video that were shooting during his visit Scott brought this along with them when he flew out here so Scott what is this this is a sapphire Nitro+ Oryx 588 gig video card so it's kind of that one of the faster five 80s that you'll find out that in the wild yeah and it's it's also brand new as you may have noticed 500 series yes yes before that this coverage is brought to you by the Computex conference which runs from May 30th to June 3rd in Taipei Taiwan this year Computex is the biggest event of the year for PC hardware and technology where we preview the newest prototypes before they come to market we highly recommend attending or following this event online for industry professionals and enthusiasts learn more at the link in the description below so the plan here is I retain this down we're going to look at just from here I can see some really interesting features of the cooling solution so we're going to look at that and I'll talk with Scott to go through the basics of the card maybe some other stuff grabs ready on chill or something like that so I'll get started on this Scott what are the basics on the rx 580 versus something like the 480 can you get everyone up to speed on that sure the 500 series is what we're calling it as Polaris evolved so you're familiar with the 400 series in our Polaris GPUs the 500 series offers an expanded range of products actually have new silicon going down into well below 99 dollars so we're updating that low in segments where you know a lot of times you'd see older GPUs in the past with a new chip that has all of the Polaris display bought blocks right a TV CD code and HDR support and all of that and then every price point along the way we're offering more value than we have in the past and then at the high end with the the 580 we have a higher performance obviously and then we also have allowed our partners including sapphire with nitro plus to really push on performance beyond where they were able to do in them so that is that a focus more on the board partners this time it sounds like yes okay so the what you'll see is instead of you know goodbye and deborde's you'll see a lot of partner boards you'll see more variety in the designs and this is a really nice example of what those guys have been able to do right so basics here for people who have been watching this so far interestingly all of these screws for the back plate thus far one they're pretty big screws but two they're also the spring retained screws which we normally only see for the cold blade in the cooler itself so that's different things are a bit loose now so we can start kind of pulling it apart I'm going to remove this i/o panel or plate and then it looks like from there it'll be a matter of disconnecting the cables and then our PCB and cooler should be free from the shroud so in terms of clocks it sounds like you're saying the 500 series is going to be at a boosted clock to the 400 series right yes and whether 1340 is that the new yeah 1341 and 1340 now I'm forgetting but one of the two course is 1266 for the 480 and then on this particular product I believe the boosts clock is 14 11 right and that from memory 13:40 is right around where we were hitting with our original our X 480 overclock which I would assume given equal drivers and things like that 13:40 on our X 480 and 13 for down and our X 580 should be about the same performance yeah that's the new starting point right that's what they're something to think about yeah so now you've got more headroom to actually go up beyond that another thing we're doing with the 500 series is we've tuned for idle and video playback and multi monitor scenarios okay you'll see lower power use in those cases compared to the 400 series caches so what about so on the power use side we were talking about Radeon chill earlier that impact power use as well right yes so what are let's go over some of the basics on that just because I know Radeon chill was a big part of your slides for this launch yeah so radiant chill is a new software feature that we introduced actually late last year but it really I think hasn't gotten the attention it deserves it's a really interesting sure option for gamers you know power consumption in noise and heat production is a big part of correct you know dealing with the PC and Radeon chill is a software method of actually just being providing a similar experience right but be doing it much more efficiently gray and to the way that shield is that is it looks at for certain types of games that use a lot of specific types of inputs like first person shooters third person games we know that if you hit WASD or lose Mouse there's no movement on the screen right right and so what chill does is it will limit your frame rate when there's not as much movement on the screen and then instantly raise it back up when there is more move that's right and in both cases make sure that you don't go into those 300 frames per second sort of head cases where you're using a lot of power and you're running well ahead of like even the monitors display kay there there's no real point in doing that have primary talking on effector experience and so chill has the ability I know people don't like to think about limiting their performance but it actually gives you the ability on per game basis to going into the thresholds that you choose right so that that the idea is that at the end of the day you shouldn't perceive a difference between chill and not chill operation but you should see the card hopefully running quieter running cooler and less power consumption all right until something I want to benchmark now and now that we've kind of gone over some of the basics particularly on the input latency stuff which we have your marketing slides but we'll look into testing in the future for that for what we've got so far so I've taken them tend out pulling that down excusing most of the card the backplate can still come off I got a couple things to do there but before taking the rest of it apart what we're seeing here is one of the biggest aluminium heat sinks I've ever seen on a video card it is a full-coverage sever going all the way across here with some really interesting depth profiles on the fins and part of that is to accommodate just the cooler which I don't have the calipers or thing but that looks to be about 90 to 100 millimeter fam sighs so do dole blowers or a dual axial fans blowing down on the card the vrm as usual is here we'll look at that moment GPS over here now the interesting part that prompted this is if you look at this giant plate at the bottom here this from what we're seen so far is actually contacting the vram in addition to the GPU so that means that manufacturers are finally starting to really get the hint there that they can do a lot more with their coolers we saw this with the hydros or with the water-cooled the gigabyte 1080 cards so they're contacting the vram and as I was talking to Scott about this earlier this means that you might have a higher GPU temperature if you're just measuring in GPU Z or something but that's not necessarily a bad thing because now we're sinking the vram as well thinking all these different components with the GPU means your temperature is going to look higher but your cooling other stuff as well so an extra 3 C on the GPU in favor of cooling vram directly for once is not actually a bad loss so we can pull apart the rest of this now and then Scott in terms of other 500 series stuff that's interesting what do we have for like the the 570 cards what's the one of the specs there so the 570 is 32 compute units on a Polaris 20 tip so rather than were disabled compared to the 580 sure but it still has a nice high clock and I think you'll see performance that is very nice actually maybe not even dissimilar from to the original 480 48 cards okay but you guys can't test that yourself right so your lineup at least for today 5 80s 5 70s just just to get I know the answer to this but just to ask it so that people don't kill me in the comments do we have a price yet so I suppose when this goes live we might have a private gift say but yeah I'm just goes like it'll have a price to all of this stuff but as we film we probably aren't supposed to disclose that yet it's the consensus of competitive information right so we can revisit this or you guys could put it in dollars yeah we like the description or something yeah so here's a here's what we've got here first of all this came off easier than I thought this is we've got some breathing room for the GPU in the back this is a job well done by sapphire some of the companies don't do this they'll cover it up and then they don't put any direct contact which we've previously looked at between the backplate and the PCB when they don't do this what happens is you end up with a effectively a hot box from the backplate strapping all the heat so that fire is allowing some breathing room here we'll test how effective this is if we get a sapphire model I've got some a issues and Gigabyte ones though and then here we have a thermal pad contacting this protrusion and the to the plate and we are working on some kind of metal here and that is actually screwed in which we can see here I'm not gonna bother on doing this so that's interesting am i quite sure why they've done it that way but maybe this is cheaper from the die casting process so that's what we have there I've just taken out the four screws which are spring retained as well for the GP that's what those look like and that will release the massive bloom heatsink in theory from the PCB I'm just make sure we didn't miss a screw somewhere it looks like we got all so let's see how this goes there's a toggle up here too so they've got a dip switch at the top which looks like I suppose you don't know the specific on this card looks like a scientist emotive BIOS toggle right and I'd have it as a backup in case you fly your BIOS or in some cases it's an overclock mode you can flip that to go into a default higher clock mode right I'm not sure what sapphire is done with the toggle yeah it looks like potentially a bias switch so you cut I think it's just held on by basically gloom at this point yeah don't pads and thermal paste alright here it goes scare you didn't come off I thought it you know maybe you would never know yeah alright so pretty cool stuff it will have to have builds would analyze the vrm of this but what we're looking at here is we've got the memory so you know two four six eight eight gigabytes so eight gigabit packages or one gigabyte packages TP is in the center and a thermal pad contact from the vram to the giant sink and so what we've got here is actually a bit different than what I thought it is an isolated copper cold plate and then it looks like maybe just an aluminum which is fine honestly for the rest of this the the curious thing is those isolating that's helped in a significant way and isolating the GP from some of the heat on the vram and my guess would be yes because there's a couple layers of difference there so that's the collective cold plate for the vram and the GPU really interesting thin design I will have to talk to sapphire about to see why they did it this way they've got all the channels in here so you can see there are thermal pads contacting the FETs and I'm not seeing doublers or anything like that but I am seeing two sets of three fats will talk to build Zoid to analyze the phase design and then a channel here for the capacitor bank and for the inductors which we've got same amount of inductors there so it looks like a couple good couple phases for the core vrm terms of the FET models working 1/2 G I'll pass the number still on to build side again because he's got all these on his in his head so yeah that's the board let's looks like that okay if we might as well clean out the GPO this point because how do we to need to do have three apply thermal paste anyway do you know is the GPU identify or different on views like the name on the name on well let's take a look I guess we'll find out started here it's a blank it's blank which might just be a if it's a pre-production model it might just be blank because of that but yeah this is a really card that I'm bored I just brought along to write great I didn't know was going to get this kind of treatment happy to do it but we're taking taken good care of it yes or no name on the on this particular GPU but once we look at the review units that might change a business it being an early sample memory all that stuff memory power design phase layout we'll have in a separate video with build Zoids professional overclocked and analysis he can also talk about power mods shunt mods hard mods to get more power out of the card and I think that's pretty much what we have to look at right now for the Sapphire with a nitro plus if nitro plus rx 580 and other than this I guess Scot any anything you want to throw in here in terms of the Radeon 500 series or I know everyone's guys got Vega in the comments yes there is information on Vega out there we've talked about in the past architecture at CES yes so that stuff hasn't changed right and just to clarify there's nothing new oh not right now I thought did you guys see our GDC capsaicin info we actually showed some nice demos there of Vega working with the rapid pac-man ability that's a nice thing so there's some there's some new information since the es right but you know we're setting the table with the 500 series for the regular release we said it's coming but it's not yet time right and what about for the 500 series what are the the GPU so we had Polaris 10 and 11 previously what are the new ones called so 20 and 21 plus there's at the low end rx 550 is a new GPU that will whose name will remain shrouded in mystery today right but but is actually another Polaris chip that's even smaller okay and the color is 21 and and Polaris 20 is going to be the one on the five ATS I guess yes okay and then 21 is on the the 464 560 yeah cool well there you have it so there's the PCB check back for builds analysis will have full reviews if they're not online today with embargo lifts this is obviously recorded at a launch but they're not online today they'll be online shortly and Scott thank you for allowing me to take a part of the card definitely no problem in I'll get it back together and we'll see you all next time you