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hey everyone this is Steve from gamers access tonight and today we're reviewing this this is a home theater PC that is capable of playing basically every game out on max settings and ultra settings at 1080p resolutions in my benchmark in which you will see later in this video first note that this is part of a full review a very detailed written review links in the description below and this is basically a the first in a wave of home theater pcs that are meant to replace consoles this is sort of in line with the Alienware alpha ZOTAC CN 760 and gigabytes Brix Pro all these things that were at one point billed as steam machines but have sort of slowly become mini pcs or home consoles as they're called in this instance this is a much higher end version of the models I just listed this is called a cyber vapor extreme and it is equipped with a gtx 980 and that is the highest performing video card i've ever been charged for a single GPU at 1080p gaming solutions it's also got a 4790k in there pretty powerful cpu definitely not even for most games but in the very least it pairs well with the GTX 980 which is not always something you see in pre-built pcs so cyber is a brand of cyber power which is a system integrator or an SI and they build computers they're sort of like high power or digital storm or Origen all those guys and this cyber vapor extreme is one of three different models of the cyber PC which is a PC console they call it and the first one this one uses the 980 the 4790k it's got 2 by 4 gigabytes of RAM so 8 gig of ram using a data value memory in this instance 1600 megahertz and it's got no SSD a one terabyte 7200 rpm hard drive and a small form-factor 450 watt which is plenty for this 80 plus gold Silverstone SFX power supply so that's actually a very good power supply it's really to be honest the part that I'm most excited about being in the system because the rest you kind of expect as for the motherboard it's using a z97 I am ITX board that's equipped with AC wireless and Bluetooth 4.0 so this is a board that's available on the market as are all these other parts you could build this system yourself and if you're curious what that would cost I priced it out it would cost about $100 less to DIY versus this and yes it's $100 less but being honest with ourselves $100 is not a lot of money to have someone build a computer for you and then you get the peace of mind that if something goes wrong you can theoretically call warranty department and get a replacement theoretically that said people turn for everyone our channel is dedicated and advocates regularly the idea of building your own system it's it's pretty fun you learn a lot and you get all the upgrade ability and things like that sometimes pre-built are nice especially in the instance where you're gifting them to people or just don't really have the time to build it yourself which is definitely a thing believe me so it's got its market and if that market isn't you that's okay but in terms of performance we benchmark this it does very well in most games it plays pretty much everything at Ultra or max settings and for something that cost fifteen hundred dollars it's about what you'd expect the GTX 980 performs as it always performs whether it's not it's in one of these and the 4790k ensures that there's basically no bottleneck on the GPU when you're playing these more modern games that are multi-threaded and will take advantage of hyper threading which is not a lot of them but battlefield 4 is among the few that will other than the internal specs this system ships with a logitech f7 10 wireless controller which is actually a pretty high-end controller it's it's very satisfying to use it's similar to the Xbox 360 wireless controller definitely the best PC controller I've ever used but this is a very close competitor and it ships with the Box another peripheral you get is this cyber branded little remote control and this is something you can buy separately on Newegg but I wouldn't recommend it it's sort of it's a nice gesture that they have included it but to be honest it's totally unusable because the buttons are just way too small and it's sort of infuriating to use I would recommend buying something like a Logitech k400 or they're better keyboard instead which it's an extra $20 but it's a full-sized keyboard so you can actually type on it with like home row and stuff unlike this where you're stuck using fingers alternatively you could use a mobile application plug into the Bluetooth on the motherboard and use your phone as a controller and that's something that I really think is potentially an oversight by cyber they should have included some kind of instructions on how to do something like that or linked or plugged into an existing application to use a phone as a controller because this is ultimately meant to replace things like DVRs and consoles and in those instances you want to make things as easy for the user as possible to replace those items the build quality internally it's built very well this is a small form-factor case so it's about 14 by 14 by 4 give or take half an inch and that means there's very limited space to manage the cables but it's a modular PSU so there are no unnecessary cables they don't ship the extra cables with this box so if you wanted to upgrade in the future and you needed more power cables for pje you'd have to buy this separately but that's not a lot of money and not a big deal I do wish that CyberPower built this with an aftermarket cooler even if it drove cost up an extra $30 because the stock cooler in here for Intel's 4790k is just not enough it's not cutting it it's fine if you're just gaming and you're not beating the CPU up to to directly with applications that are more CPU intensive and games like Photoshop encoding and things like that and this machine is fully capable of doing everything most users would want in an application like Photoshop or Premiere which is why it's a shame to see it struggle from thermals when it's really being stressed that can be resolved with investing about 30 bucks on your own and an aftermarket cooler and really at that point you'd be buying it if you built it yourself anyway so it's not making a price difference on either end of the the PC building versus these system integrated options in prime95 l fft benchmarking the 4790k was hitting a hundred Celsius that's t.j.maxx within 40 seconds of starting the bench so it's really not adequately cooled fine for gaming still you're hitting 40 to 60 Celsius after subtracting ambient and gaming applications so it's definitely warm but it's not killing it like like it would be in a more CPU intensive task the GPA was running about 60 Celsius after subtracting ambient and that's more reasonable that's that's survival for the GTX 980 but still a bit warm and the reason it's warm is because this case does not have any case fans in it it's just got this vent right here this is exposing the CPU fan on one side and on the on the opposite side it's actually exposing the GPU fan so they've used coming out of the PCIe slot on the Mini ITX motherboard they've used a an extension and mounted the video card separately in the case which one allows this small form-factor and two it allows them to face the fan at different direction so that they can use intake from both sides of the box and cool the GPU from one side the CPU from outside and then the power supply sucks air in from its fan as well so there's only three fans in the system and they're not case fans that means that the system is fairly hungry for cool air and you should upgrade the app from the CPU cooler to be an aftermarket cooler instead of this crappy Intel box cooler that's in here but that's more I'm really Intel than anyone although of course case fans would help tremendously but they just won't fit in this box system integrators get sort of a bad rap in the PC building sector because they are regularly at odds with what PC builders individually would select for components in the instance of the extreme version of the cyber box I agree with pretty much all of the component selection other than what I just listed I do wish that the RAM had actual heat sinks on it instead of value memory and the only reason I say that is because it's so hot anyway that the RAM would actually benefit from heat sinks assuming it had a way to wick the the heat away from the sinks but this it does make sense the components in here it's $1,500 if you build it yourself I was running about $1400 including the operating system and the controller because this includes both of those I did not include this keypad thing I don't know what cost but you shouldn't buy it and it's not a bad price I don't feel the same way about cybers other option the cyber vapor eye and the cyber vapor a and those basically the cyber vapor I use an i3 CPU I'm not sure which one but it's an i3 and it uses a gtx 750ti and it costs $700 at $700 the DIY approach you can easily get an i-5 or even honestly an 860 K might make more sense for multi-threaded applications at this point and you'd probably want to get a different GPU that 760 is kind of on sale sometimes but in r9 270 if you're not afraid of AMD which it's okay if you are that would be available as well at a reasonable price so you can build a better system at 700 or even 600 than the one that cyber is offering I really don't agree with their CPU and the GPU combination the cyber vapor a the IMA our intel and AMD and my understanding that a ships within x4 8 40 and the Athlon cpu and it's using an a 78 chipset so it's a bit limited on overclocking things like that and it's got an r9 270 video card and that one costs $100 less it's $600 I don't think those two systems are as great value as this one this is pretty damn good value and it's hard to beat that in terms of performance this runs as you can see in the bench it runs over 100 FPS and some games like grid it runs basically in line with what we expect from a GTX 980 you know surprise there and it's it's easily pushing 50 FPS even in Assassin's Creed unity and Far Cry 4 which are two of the most intensive titles I've tested lately because they are poorly optimized and the fact that it runs those well means that it will run pretty much everything pretty well at 1080p at 1440p you'll still be ok you will not be gaming at 4k on this machine for most modern games some games smaller indie titles or less intensive or very well optimized titles you push for K or DSR but most people are on 1080 anyway and 1440 so in those instances this is capable plane everything I've tested that maximum or near maximum settings depending on your AAA and AF settings so it's very high performing cost $1500 it's 100 dollars more than if you built it yourself really not bad value if we're honest with ourselves it's in a small form-factor case a pretty tiny case and you could build something similar to this with like an as a Z mini z case but this is this is a fairly custom one it's about the size of an Xbox it's 14 by 14 by 4 so pretty small and being that it is a proper PC it's fully upgradable as one would expect from a full PC as opposed to a console as for whether you should buy this machine it really depends on if you want a home theater console in your living room because that's what this is built to do if you're buying something for an office or another room then you really could probably build a bigger system as I'm physically larger and it'll run a bit cheaper because that's just how many ITX works and definitely run cooler in the very least if not cheaper if you want something you can hide away in a corner or under a TV behind a TV this is something that should be on your short list you should look at other items like the en 760 from ZOTAC the Alienware alpha the gigabyte bricks and things along those lines because those are going to be the closest low-end competitors to the vapor a and I and and then of course there are some competitors in the higher end as well which is what this would be all in all it performs very well this the build quality is good I wish they chose a better CPU cooler that is quieter and cools better the RAM should probably have heat sinks it's sorely lacking an SSD which i think is strange because SSD is severely impact boot up time and that is a big deal in a home theater environment where you want to boot quickly so you can watch or play games on demand and it's it's just one less reason for you to walk away and go to your main desktop as someone who uses a home theater PC so those are weird things you can upgrade all three of those items at that point you need to sort of look at the prices in question what's worth it the performance is pretty amazing it's built well the components make sense the price is good value so all those things considered this is something I could get behind but not necessarily something I would buy for myself that makes sense if you are into buying a pre-built machine and don't want to build it yourself and you have a $1,500 budget I would send you this way because it is the best value small form-factor pre-built machine I have found on the market if you know of other ones please link them below if you want to build it yourself we have guides for that and you're always welcome to come to our forums for support so please check the links in the description below subscribe as always it helps a lot and I will see you all next time peace you