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today we're taking apart the NVIDIA Titan r-tx which we bought for $2,500 so it's a bit cheaper than the Titan V we bought last year but it's still pretty up there the good news is it's still got that champagne gold color that goes so well with Jensen CEO Edition Titan VIII as previously and also our GN beer glass if you want to mix and match there but this we need to tomorrow the finish unfortunately do a little damage to it take it apart see what it looks like underneath and what we need to look at first is the PCB to see if it's the same as the 28th ETI founders edition or if n video went with something custom for this hire probably a higher power consumption version of the taurine high end GPU so today we're doing a teardown of this card before that this video is brought to you by us and the gamers access store you can go to store documents access dotnet to pick up one of our ceramic mugs critically acclaimed mod mats or educational video card tear down and PCB Anatomy posters that teach the names and placements of all the key PCB components learn more at stored at gamers XS net or click the link below if you're wondering what's new with this other than the champagne gold finish like the Titan V and the GN beer glass it is well that's really it we need to take it apart to see what else is different because this cooler it's the same as the founders Edition cooler that you saw on the twenty-eighth eti 2080 to 2070 same thing so nothing different there they've got the same slot size the same fin stack and presumably vapor chamber under that so not a whole lot is different externally it really is just the color internally of course there's a bigger well it's it's the 20 atti die at least the size of it it's just that there are more SMS enabled so that's really the the change there because the die itself should in theory be about the same size it's just that they've got a couple of SMS that are disabled on the 28 ETI and this is the full tu 102 GPU which be the biggest one we presently know of as being purchasable for or actually even just possible for the current Aryan architecture okay so this begins our journey of taking out a million screws fortunately we're not going to take out every single screw this time because there are over 70 in these cards we're just going to take out enough to get the thing apart and take a look and then if you are planning to do this kind of disassembly yourself we would advise avoiding taking apart the cooler that's the part that really sucks but you don't have to take the cooler apart in order to get to the PCB you just have to take all these screws out of the back and then the screws out of the i/o and then you expose the PCB at that point and if you go to store decking or insects net you can pick up a mod mat like the one I'm working on and more easily track your screw locations but we're just going to take apart take all these screws out and then we'll jump ahead a little bit so that's all the small screws for the back plate those just secure the back plate these secure the back plate to the IO slot to the PCB so those come out next and the gold isn't chipping so that's nice but whatever not that important that was the envy link cover probably seen those in the past they miss a screw no okay pretty similar so far I feel ripped off the why isn't it gold it's not cold like all the others so that's it's disappointing now we have to take out all these these I think these are 4 millimeter hex is the size of these ones and it's the exact same assembly as the previous founders edition card so you're not learning anything new here if you saw those we need to get through the rest of this in order to learn something for point out so these are 4.0 hex in case you need to know that which you will if you're doing a liquid cooling mod so there's one of these for each of those really tiny screws this is something I haven't said in a while but you say for every one of these types of teardown the tiny screws that go into these are extremely fragile so if you need to reinstall them after disassembly for some reason then do not turn past the point at which it it starts first showing resistance because the the head will snap from the screw shaft and then you'll be sad because it'll be stuck in the the hex screw underneath because they just screw into these and it really easy to break those screws but it's the same ones they've been using since definitely 10 series can't remember thing is I'm a 9 series there are so many screws we never did figure out why there's so many screws in Nvidia's design although people internally have since made fun of it since we made the video showing how many screws there were there were we had two parts the original disassembly video and that's because we couldn't figure out how to disassemble this thing the cooler during the teardown which was very disappointing for everyone in the second part which came out maybe a day or two later we did figure out how to do it and the trick was if he missed it we took a heat gun to this plate because there's actually a ton of glue holding this thing to the rest of the cooler and then started I think we stuck a screwdriver in up under there and popped it off once the glue was was weakened by the heat gun so lots of screws still a lot of screws it's totally unnecessary although to end video is credit with a with a vapor chamber design they're using it does mean that everything is going to be pretty airtight and sealed in contact so that is an upside these screws on the IO I've since learned since our first tear downs we did about we did it over 1020 atti tear downs when you all sent them in on loan to look at the broken ones and in that process I learned that this the tiniest screws here are really at risk of stripping like doesn't matter if you use the right size screwdriver they're just there they're in pretty tight and you just have to apply a lot of force to break the lock tight I don't know if there's a lot yeah there's lock sights break the lock tight because these will strip easily so be aware of that as well hope this is making people nervous just a little nervous that's that's what I'm hoping it does to them Steve pretty sure that's about what the counts are gonna say right now okay there's removal of the IO plate whatever you want to call it and now it should disconnect yes okay cool make sure I didn't bend any pins that we're good okay cool so part of the point of this today is so that we can put thermocouples on the components and see how hot they get I've kind of already done that but this will allow us to do it more and we'll talk about about this more in the next video on the review and the follow up videos but what let's look at the memory choice this looks like Samsung yes Samsung and there was some misinformation previously by mostly internet commenters which was wrong and suggested that micron versus Samsung impacts or was a change made because of the artifacting that's not true it's just because Nvidia brought on multiple suppliers and they'll bring on SK Hynix probably at some point to what is it builds I'd tell me what's the MOSFET I forget sorry 170 okay it's still 31 70s so this that's what I was I was trying to confirm these MOSFETs are 31 70s just like they were on the 20 atti and we've still got three phase split off for the memory up here which is really easily identifiable primarily because the branded on the chokes does change but also because I know that's what it is and then we have another one down there yep still 45 nine two four nine nine one this one's been through a lot don't judge is it identical I'm thinking yes aha there's a very important difference that I've just discovered you're heating it here on gamers Nexus for the first time you'll notice that the text is upside down on the Titan r-tx I didn't pay $2,500 to have upside-down text on a minor minor inductor on my board thank you very much you can see they did it again here guilty of two counts of being rotated that's that's pretty much it it's pretty much the only difference so yeah these are these are basically the same these are the same it's the same PCB this is in fact same on the back as well so there you have it it's a it's 2080 TI is what it is at least well the PCB is the GPUs clearly different we should wash that off and take a look at it now if you're wondering about some of this stuff down here you see that kind of black silicon looking stuff we talked to some people and it sounds like it's just well it depends on who you ask but one of our contacts and man you and maybe you might know more about this if you do let us know but that black film surrounding this V Ram is either to do with putting some extra reinforcement where it's the most thermally sensitive it's at the bottom of the slot it's not really getting in cooling that's what one of our contacts suggested now it could be like a thermal pad grease but that's not what this is because it's I mean it's not it's not grease I can feel it so nothing to be concerned about is really the main takeaway here we're not 100% sure why they do it versus not but our understanding is that they do this in hotter areas that don't have as much air flow or access to cooling let's clean off the GPU small note if you're ever cleaning around a GP like this don't obsess over getting the paste out around the GPU it's not gonna hurt anything and if you try to remove it by sticking like your fingernail in there with a paper towel chances are you're gonna snag a small capacitor or service mount device and rip it off and cause damage so generally we we would advise just just clean the the GPU itself or at least the diffusion barrier which is what it is at the top here so it is a tu 102 - 400 - a 1 and the 20 atti if you've forgotten is a tu 102 - 300 a 4 that's basically can a higher bin SKU - K 1 - a 1 the last a 1 there just means a revision it is not significant the K 1 we're not a hundred percent sure we had some contact suggest that it might mean which memory module is missing and you'll notice that there's just a wad of paper towel here there's no memory module here it's because 11 gigabytes this does have an extra module it's not 12 though it's 24 and then other than that the only difference is is the secondary part of the SKU 300 a 400 and that's just it's the same GPU it's tu 102 it's the same size GPU it's the same everything it's just there's a bit more activated more SM so you get more cores and that could come down to fusing things off artificially for product segmentation sometimes it does or it could be because in making these well realistically in making these they had enough of these fail with just a couple SM is not working or something like we're just one SM whatever not working and then they end up down bending it to one of these because why throw it away if you can recover it as a lower end product so there's your really obvious walkthrough on that most you probably know that already so that's it though that's the the Titan RT X I think there's nothing really significantly different so wait a minute this one is made in Korea and this one is made in Taiwan I think we're onto something here I don't know maybe they make them in different places for example so that's that's it that's all there is to it it's gold and it's a 20 atti in every regard except for the part that matters which is the GPU and the memory around it but all the rest of it is is pretty familiar to us so so that's what you get when you buy one of these really expensive Titan r-tx cards that's the whole thing so if you knew the Titan sorry the 2080 ti then probably not that exciting but we still need to look at performance in a video we've done about well most of testing so far and and we have a surprise for you as well coming up after the initial review so make sure you check back for the review now as for the rest of this the cooler I didn't really mention that's because the same thing as the 20 series coolers so you've got the sort of Fuji poly style pads here and for the inductors for the vram for the inductors over here you have the blue goo pads over there and there's just throne pads as well they're a little squishy but throne pads there it's all pretty standard stuff we did see alternating throne pad choice on some 23 scarred 'z so not sure if they'll do that with this but it's kind of irrelevant it's just a different pad supplier doesn't mean anything so that's it for this one subscribe so you can catch the review of this car that's the part that will actually matter apparently there wasn't anything really special under this 2500 dollar card although I am curious how much of the money went towards the golden mean of the design and you go to store documents access net to pick up a mod mat like the one I used in this video for teardown and tracking your screw placement or patreon.com slash gamers Nexus thank you for watching I'll see you all next time