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all the coolers on this table currently have no official m4 bracket support leaving ASIS the happiest company in the world with their crosshair six because of its a m3 and m4 support so the question is why was there no AM for support and why is there still no a m4 bracket support for these t LC s we have answers for you and we'll be digging through official commentary and statements from the suppliers and the manufacturers to reddit posts made by the official representatives and through some emails to explain what's going on and when you can expect your brackets before getting to that discovered this brought to you by EVGA 1080i FTW three video card which will have NTC thermistors on it for tracking the vrm and vram temperatures you can learn more at the link in the description below we already talked about the m4 bracket support and how limited is for liquid coolers in our initial 1800 2x review on page 2 but we now have some official information from the suppliers and manufacturers that includes ASA tech NZXT Corsair and EVGA who have just gotten into the space with thier CLC is 4 CPUs and so we can talk through that but first to answer the most immediate a question that everyone has when will am 4 brackets for these closed-loop coolers become available and which manufacturers does the shortage affect to answer the first question from what we've been told by the suppliers and the manufacturers wide mass production availability it should begin in the first half of April early April is kind of what would be - being told early April so it's probably the first week based on the other timelines I've been given in terms of immediate availability some of the manufacturers are expecting to begin shipment next week from publication of this video so that would be Corsair for some early availability of their airship brackets from ASA Tech and then end exp might begin shipping next week but in the very worst case early April's what we're being told for them and for EVGA and that is official from the manufacturers being the largest of the manufacturers we're talking about today for liquid coolers Corsair is the most impacted by this they have thousands of brackets on request and so that means it might take them a few days to start getting those shipments actually out to the consumers but they are working on it's just it's a lot of requests to go through so the next thing then now that we've gotten kind of the when answered is why why was this a thing to begin with why we're coolers available immediately or very shortly after launch it's getting on to be about a month now so taking a bit of time and just browsing through forums and read it in Twitter you can see that some of manufacturers that be coarser NZXT and EVGA are starting to take heat from consumers who are getting it rightfully impatient so let's walk through it am for mounting holes to have a different spacing and pressure requirement from and three and manufacturers who use a custom backplate have had to retool to produce am four back please manufacturers like Noctua did well with am four and were officially sent out with reviewer kits as a result the Knox WA air cooler is an air cooler and so noctua had access to a spec from Andy that specified the mounting pressure for air coolers cooling manufacturers like motherboard manufacturers had to scramble for the launch of Rison lead time provided by Andy to its vendors numbered in the weeks with final microcode submissions arriving some other board vendors on February 14th or 15th there's more to it than just limited lead time though as you have your brackets in hand by now if that were the only issue supplier ASA tech informed gamers Nexus in an official communication that quote I can confirm that Andy has provided no hardware to support development of a retention mechanism for the m4 Eisen launch like other partners in the ecosystem retail product was not made available to cooling manufacturers sufficiently before launch to repair a product in time and further we have learned from the cooling manufacturers that the mounting pressure defined in AMD's of spec is allegedly only for the pressure required to mount a larger air cooler and does not specify the pressure required for a smaller pump to this end a pump would be loose on the IHS if mounted using the four screws method which ASA tech does whereas coolers that use crossbar retention mechanism would be able to make up for the lack of pressure from standoffs and cap screws by just having that crossbar mounting this explains why cool it made the corsair products have been available from the start they use that cross are for attention so pressure wasn't much of an issue in a post made by NV XP to its subreddit the company stated thankfully our friends at Tom's Hardware brought to the public's attention and issue with third-party a.m. for cooling solution as a specification supplied by Andy did not include the height of the backplate screw holders this has created a discrepancy in back plates that does not allow for coolers to have adequate pressure on the CPU this validates what we heard from other manufacturers and suppliers and the NZXT continues to reiterate the same saying to further compound this problem we were unable to receive an Andy certified motherboard in order to test our Kraken Am for solution we then reached out to an SI who asked to remain unidentified and were able to receive the following letter from ASA tech that was sent to the SI and of imports the letter states quote due to unforeseen inconsistencies between motherboard and manufacturers at backplate dimensions and Andy's thermal specification we are forced to make significant changes to our AMD standoffs to ensure we will not encounter problems with out of spec back plates the letter later goes on to state to that quote after receiving our CPS and boards late last week we confirmed that the and three standoffs do not provide adequate clamp force and a bit later they say we are currently rapid prototyping at the new standoff and will have a mass production timeline by the beginning of next week we are still targeting to supply customers with quantities of retention kits ordered by end of month via air shipment please keep in mind that no AC tech customer has been provided a retention solution yet given all this information we now have a better idea as to why the four screw and ring based mounting mechanism has been delayed four coolers that use it that would mostly include things like this though there are others on the market that are not from ASA tech coolers that use the retention bar or cross bars or other types of clamps like the ones natively supported by am 4 and it installed mounting kit that is on the motherboards that would include things like the thermal tape contact 12 those are fine air coolers already had a spec with a mounting pressure defined and also some of them just don't need the extra custom back place and so they bypassed this issue all together for liquid coolers that do require the custom mounting mechanisms either because the supplier has decided to design it that way or because the retention demands it for pressure and forced reasons on the IHS they're not too far away at this point it's about a week out maybe two depending on which manufacturer you are waiting for and it sounds like it was a matter of late arrival for product to test the retention kits on late notice and potentially missing information from a spec but that should all be resolved at this point and we're really just waiting on the things to get delivered via air or boat so mass production wide availability first half of April for sure the only place you might still have delays is if perhaps you're a Corsair customer and at that point you're just waiting a couple days hopefully so that they can go through their backlog of orders so I think that addresses this issue as much as it can be addressed as always that link in the description 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