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3rd Gen Ryzen support on B350 & X370 boards, MSI’s X570 Lineup & More

2019-05-28
firstly a big THANK YOU to msi for making it possible for timur myself to attend Computex 2019 please check out their latest AMD x5 70 motherboards made for gamers and creators by the link in the video description also thank you to Corsair for their support please check all their exciting products out via the link in the video description welcome back to harbor unbox today we're at the msi booth or at least the plan was to film on location at the msi booth like we did last year but just look at this mess it seems words got out that there's a lot of exciting new products on display this year at the msi booth like many we were keen to check out MSI's new x5 70 range of motherboards msi hit it out of the park with their b4 50 range so we were hoping that would continue with the x5 70 boards and so far things do look very promising but before we dive into the new boards I did quickly quiz the msi product manager on the status of their existing be 350 and X 370 motherboards and they will be getting BIOS updates to supporters in two processors this is a question that many of you have been asking us over the past few weeks leading up to Computex so I'm glad we could get an official response on day one msi also wanted to say their current b4 15 X 470 product lines will receive a max branding to the end of the product name to signify support falls into processes out of the box so the updated version of the msi be 450 tomahawk for example that will now be labeled as the msi be 450 tomahawk max and this does make it a lot easier for retailers and customers to know if they're selling slash buying a board that will work with us into processor out of the box that's it all of MSI's be 450 boards do support BIOS flashback which means you can update the board's BIOS without the need for a CPU that's supported by the currently installed BIOS as for the older be 350 and X 370 motherboards I'll talk more about CPU support towards the end of the video but for now let's check out MSI as new x5 70 motherboards I'll start with what's going to be unquestionably one of the most expensive high and X 570 motherboards you're going to find following in the footsteps of the mega X 399 creation we have the prestige so they've dropped to the Meg acronym which is kinda nice cuz I didn't really like the whole Meg thing prestige sounds a bit more prestige and I just sounds better so it doesn't really matter anyway because we will be referring to this one 99% of the time as the x5 70 creation and well that's just a much simpler name and I think a lot of you guys prefer that they just use creation on board you get an IR digital vrm using 70 amp power stages it's a 12 plus 4 plus 1 configuration so that's an overkill 12 phase vrm with an 840 amp capacity under optimal conditions equally impressive is the massive cooling you'll find on this board there's no plastic IO covers this time around which I personally much prefer rather the primary aluminium heat sink covers the backside of the i/o ports giving the board a clean look while also being highly functional the list of features for all of these boards really is almost too long to cover but the highlights include things such as a dedicated PCIe expander card supporting an additional 2 nvme SSDs there's also 10 Gigabit LAN along with Wi-Fi six boatloads of USB ports and I'm not even joking about that one I think this one has the most connectivity of any x5 70 motherboard out there in total there's 11 USB 3.1 gen2 type-c ports a single USB 3.1 gen2 type-c port and then there's two USB ports which I guess you can use with your peripherals you'll notice this board also features active cooling over the x5 70 chipset basically it'll only become active during heavy and VMI's storage access though we will have to verify this weather or in testing when we get the board in a month or so msi didn't show us that the fans are virtually silent and they are of the highest quality they noted that while their competitors are using sleeved fans they're using ball bearing fans rated for at least 2000 hours of operation but because they are using the same zero froze a technology that you'll get with their latest graphics cards the fans won't be active until the chipset reaches a certain temperature MSI also informed us that all the x5 70 motherboards will use international rectifier or IR vrm components and even the most basic boards such as the MP GX 570 gaming plus will still pack a six phase V core verum with large heat sinks they also claimed that all X 570 boards will feature server grade PCBs with the entry-level options such as the gaming plus built in a four lair PCB while the higher-end models will get six and even eight layer PCBs all that we found six new MSI x5 70 motherboards on display and this included the prestige x5 70 Croatian that we've already looked at there was also the x5 70 God like pretty insane overkill bought that one there's the x5 70 ace the x5 70 gaming Pro carbon that one has too many words in it what do I allow is it 2 2 2 2 words so they violated that with the gaming pro cabin but whatever x5 70 gaming edge that one's that one's ok it snuck in and the x5 70 game Plus that one's also ok the x5 70 godlike is another extreme overkill motherboard that will only be available in limited numbers so if you want to get what will certainly be one of the maddest x5 70 motherboards on the market you'll need to act fast the real flagship motherboard at least what I consider to be their real flagship motherboard will be the ACE and this isn't a limited run deal again we don't know the pricing yet but I expect to pay around $300 design-wise it is very similar to the godlike and the feature set is still extremely impressive for example you do get a 12 phase V core vr m 3 m dot 2 ports with cooling 2.5 Gigabit LAN y56 and then all the standard stuff that we've already talked about for me though I feel like the x5 70 gaming edge Wi-Fi is the real standout this is meant to be a more affordable motherboard and yet the designer and feature set was really quite incredible so I'm very keen to see what this board goes on sale for the Zed 390 edge for example that's $190 motherboard but if the x5 70 edges anywhere near $200 going to be a seriously good buy so be sure to keep an eye on this one something else that caught my eye at the MSI booth was this thing not the x5 70 got like a motherboard well that's also very cool but I mean this case the Meg alchemy 700 X this thing looked absolutely awesome but unfortunately it's just a prototype and it sounds like MSI has no intention of putting it into mass production they claim it's the world's first curved gaming case which I don't really challenge apart from the fact that they are actually gonna sell them anyway from behind it looks like some kind of strange really big monitor it's actually pretty sleek looking though and it wasn't until I saw the motherboards IO with all the cables hanging out of it that I realized that it was actually some kind of PC case around the front this is how it looked with the x5 70 got like installed pretty awesome case and I have to say though it did remind me very much of the Thermaltake Korpi series this in my opinion looked much cleaner though this is coming from a big core Petrie fan anyway maybe spam hashtag build the alchemy in the comment section below and then I'll continue to pressure msi into making this case a reality as for graphics cards were obviously still a bit off from getting navi but i did hear that there will most likely be some custom-designed navi graphics cards from AI B's which I suppose didn't really surprise me because we have that for the rx 585 70 and so on but still it is good to hear that it won't be like what happened with Vega and Radeon 7 and then in the absence of any new GPUs EMS I did have a 10-year anniversary edition of their lightening series obviously based on the new RT X 2082 I this is a neutral themed graphics card and you will be able to buy this soon and apparently it makes use of super high quality superb in silicon so it should guarantee super strong overclocks anyway that's what MSI told me it's a nice looking car but I'm not sure we'll get the chance to check that on the channel oh and something else that's kind of unrelated to this video but we heard this information elsewhere is that it sounds like and we heard this from a few different sources that the x5 70 motherboards or rather the Zen drew processors will work quite happily up to ddr4 4000 or at least people were suggesting that that memory speed is very easy to achieve with the Zen 2 processor so again this is just people talking on the showroom floor we don't we weren't shown any evidence and of course we haven't been able to test them for ourselves so take this with a grain of salt but it sounds like from what we're hearing Zen to will work at ddr4 4,000 very comfortably and depending on the quality of the motherboard higher speeds like up to 4600 around there I don't know take that with a grain of salt it seems pretty incredible based on what we've seen from first and second generalizing but it certainly sounds like third-gen risin will see a massive improvement in memory support and then the frequencies that it can run at still we will be getting into all those X 570 boards in due time so that's gonna be a whole lot of fun I'm also kinda dig out my B 350 and X 370 boards to see how they go with the new Verizon 3000 series processors and I said earlier all the MSI 300 series boards will be receiving a BIOS update to support those n 2 processors so yeah that's great news for those of you who picked up a be 350 motherboard a few years ago and yeah this is exactly the news I was expecting here I was aim B promised that the am 4 boards would be compatible at least till 2020 so yeah no huge surprises there but it's good to get an official response anyway quite a few of you have also asked me if your base model be 350 motherboard will be able to handle as into processor even if it gets BIOS support which we've just confirmed that it will be getting and in short the answer is yes horizon 930 900 X that's only a 105 watt TDP part so yeah any boards that support the horizon 720 700 X will be able to support the 3900 X without an issue I feel like Tim is doing his absolute best throwing me off my game here it's not working Tim anyway what was I talking about yes so CPU support I suspect to those of you with an older entry level be 350 board you're probably not looking at buying a $500 u.s. CPU anyway because those boards weren't particularly expensive I think they were around $100 even a couple of years ago so something like the rise in 5 3600 or perhaps even the rise in 730 700 X they'll be more likely what you're looking at and both of those are 65 watt parts so you really have nothing to worry about there anyway that is going to do it for this video hope you guys enjoyed our look at MSI's upcoming x5 70 motherboards I hope you enjoyed Tim being a goofball and the background there can't wait out of this video and see what he was up to but he was making plenty of noise hey I make sure you stay tuned for more complex coverage from Tim and myself and always thank you for watching I'm your host Steve I'll see you again next time
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