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hey guys welcome back to harbor unbox I hope you're doing well wherever you are and you're ready for another benchmark video because today I have a good one for you with all the recent gaming benchmarks comparing the 8th gen core series from Intel to aim DS rise and CPUs many of you been asking me to compare some older CPUs in particular there's been a huge amount of requests for a 4th gen core i7 versus 8th gen core i7 test so I thought hey that's a pretty good idea like to do that so today we're comparing the core i7 4770k to the new core i7 8700 KD in a range of games but before we get to the results here are a few notes there are two unlocked fourth gen Core i7 processors the 4770k and the 4790k they are essentially the same CPU and both are based on these same Haswell architecture the 4770k was released in mid 2013 but with nothing new ready a year later and virtually no competition from AMD Intel just simply refreshed as well by essentially overclocking it and releasing a new range of chipsets the result for the flagship line was the updated 4790k sporting a 500 megahertz overclock taking it for a base frequency of 3.5 units to full Gertz since I am testing both stock and overclocked performance I decided to go with the 4770k as it really is a worst case scenario if you happen to own either the 4770k other 4790k this video should give you a good idea of the games you'd expect when upgrading to the newly released core i7 8700 K actually the benchmark results should also be quite useful for Haswell core i5 owners who are considering buying a secondhand core i7 or just biting the bullet and getting a new 8th gen processor which of course also means upgrading their motherboard and memory apart from the small IPC gains Intel's made over the past four years along with the additional 50% cores and threads the other big advantage the 87 Rika enjoys is that support for faster higher clocked ddr4 memory speaking of which the 4770k will be tested with ddr3 2400 memory and then afforded a memory bandwidth of around 29 gigabytes per second the 87 can the other hand will be using ddr4 3200 memory and this allows for a bandwidth of about 42 gigabytes per second providing with roughly 45% more bandwidth anyway there are loads of benchmark results to look at and discuss but before we do today's benchmark video has been sponsored by story blocks story blocks is an easy practical way to get quality images for your website social media videos and so on get all the stock images you can imagine from story blocks including high quality photos vectors icons and more download any of the 400,000 images in their member library and save 60% on marketplace content all content is royalty-free so it's yours to keep and use forever whether it be for personal or commercial use for example do you need a photo of an IT guy that looks like he's in over his head not a problem what about nineteen guy that's one with his surroundings also not a problem and what about an 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performance and even at 4.6 gigahertz the 4770k was 25% slower than the 8700 k so unsurprisingly in a game that can utilize the 87 our case extra course it does enjoy a decent performance advantage ashes of the singularity is one of the few games out right now that takes advantage of process with more than eight threads on offer so I don't expect to see this kind of margin in many or if any of the other games that I've tested with moving on we have the battlefield 1 results and we that we have another CPU demanding title as you can see the 7600 K gets hit really hard for the 1% low result dropping down to just 79 FPS and while that's still a high frame rate the 4770k add its stock 3.5 gigahertz operating frequency was much faster at 96 frames per second once overclocked the 4770k managed a minimum of a hundred and thirteen FPS which placed it on par with the 7700 k however the faster ddr4 memory allowed the 77 okay at times to push the 1080i to higher frame rates and therefore it achieved a higher average frame rate the 87 okay wasn't much faster compared to the overclocked 4770k it was just 12% faster for the minimum frame rate that was 18% faster for the average I should also note the frame rate cap in the game was removed for this test so we are seeing the limits of the tennety TI here next up we have the dawn of all three results and here these stock 4770k looks particularly weak though again I should note that it did only dip down to 59 fps and was able to deliver very smooth player performance perfectly smooth playable performance in fact overclocked though it did look much more respectable and it now is at least on par with the core i5 8400 when compared to the overclocked 4770k the 87 era K was 17 percent faster for the minimum results and 11% for the average 17% certainly sounds like a decent margin but again go from a hundred and sixteen FPS to 129 fps isn't a noticeable gain in this title even the difference between dipping to 71 fps opposed to 83 fps isn't noticeable or at least it wasn't in my opinion recently I tested many of these CPUs in dawn of War 3 using Vegas 64 liquid-cooled so I thought as a bonus I'd add the 4770k to those results as well I'm yet to test all the rise in CPUs with the GT X 1080 Ti so for those wanting to know how the 4770k stacks up to say the 1600 X this will give you a pretty good idea here we can see with a slower graphics card the overclocked 4770k is able to match the 7700 K and isn't a great deal slower than the 8700 K it has to be said Vega actually does quite poorly in this title for example Vega 64 liquid core isn't much faster than Vega 56 and therefore both are very similar to the gtx 1070 for this test that's kind of a good thing though is it shows that for those using something like Vega 50 - gtx 1070 there really isn't much to be had by upgrading to the 87 okay from the 4770k especially if you happy overclocking and i'll talk more about this a bit later on moving on we have the Deus Ex mankind divider results using the DirectX 12 API and again the stock 4770k looks a little slow in fact even once overclocked it's only just able to edge out the core i5 72 Turner okay and this meant that the 77 or okay was 25% faster when comparing the minimum frame rate that said the 77 okay along with the 87 okay hit a GPU bottleneck and therefore those gaming at 1440p with the GTX 1082 I will likely see no difference between the 4770k and the 8700 K for example so keep that in mind with dirt 4 we see fairly consistent 1% lower results with the GTX 280 across all CPUs tested so although the 87 ok allowed for an average of 196 FPS this meant that it was still just 8% faster when compared to the overclocked 4770k for the average framerate just 6% faster for the minimum since even the stock 4770k maintained over 100 FPS at all times it's fair to say even for high refresh rate gamers the 87 offers a little to nothing over the 4th gen core i7 at least in this title 2017 s most optimized and consumer friendly title Assassin's Creed origins has been included in the list of games tested with more security than the US president this game eats up threads and yet despite that the 4770k isn't much faster than the higher clocked 7600 k overclocking the 4770k only boosts a performance by 10% I suspect once again we're probably memory limited still when looking at the minimum result the 87 ok was just 8% faster the overclocked 4770k so it's hardly going to be a noticeable margin moving on we have project cows - and this is a fairly CPU demanding racing simulator stock the 4770k looks quite slow it has to be said though overclocked it is able to match the core i5 8400 as performance is boosted by around 17% as a result the edgiest americaís was just 8 percent faster for the minimum frame rate in what was a very mild gain next up we have a Rainbow six siege and while this is a CPU intensive game a quad core with eight threads is more than enough as demonstrated by the core i7 4770k out-of-the-box that was comparable to the 7600 okay while an edged ahead once overclocked the 8700 K did offer 17% more performance when comparing the minimum frame rate but with all CPUs pushing the GTX 1080i to over 140 FPS at all times I'm not sure how meaningful that increase is now for the last two games I've tested with being total war Warhammer - and Call of Duty World War 2 we're going to look at the performance across three presets being medium high and ultra with the gtx 1080i just for something different starting with the medium results we see something quite interesting although the average framerate is very similar across the CPUs tested the 1% low result does vary quite a bit even once overclock the 4770k trails the 7600 K and is 22% slower than the 8700 K that said though I have to point out once again that framerate did remain well over 100 FPS at all times increasing the GPU load with the higher quality preset the overclocked 4770k minimum result is just 14% lower than that of the 8700 k this margin would of course be reduced further at high resolution such as 1440p speaking of which let's simulate that you know why I suppose by using the ultra quality preset well there you go playing with a gtx 1080i at 1080p this game is heavily GPU bound with the ultra quality settings remember most games we've looked at so far were tested with the second highest quality preset and able to try and reduce the GPU bottleneck though I'm aware doing so comes with mixed blessings anyway here we see virtually no difference in performance between any of the CPUs tested whereas previously the overclocked 4770k was as much as 22 percent slower than the 87 okay before moving on I thought I'd give you a look at the Vegas 64 liquid core results for Warhammer 2 for those of you wondering this GPU sits between the GTX 1080 and 1080i in this title using the higher quality preset at 1080p this has allowed the overclocked 77 okay to close in on the 87 okay the previous high quality tests with the GTX 1080p I saw the Haswell CPU trail by a 14% margin now with Vegas 64 it's just 10% slower now the last game I'll be testing with is Call of Duty World War 2 and again let's check three quality levels normal high and X try starting with normal we find that even when overclocked the 4770k derails the 7600 in fact overclocked the older core i7 processors average frame rate was boosted by just 10% as a result this meant it was a little over 20% slower than the 87 okay but again with well over 100 FPS at all times the margin probably doesn't mean that much increasing the quality preset to high doesn't change the margins much and here the 4770k still allowed for well over 100 FPS at all times at least once overclocked even with the extra quality settings enabled and those are the ultra or maximum type quality settings the overclocked 4770k was still 24% slower than the 8700 k when comparing the average frame rate the 4770k again looks to be bandwidth limited as the 4.6 year overclocked did little to improve performance okay so we've now looked at a heap of results what's the verdict okay let's try and cover this from a few different angles first angle of attack head-on a simple no it's not worth the upgrade from a fourth gen a core i7 processor to the latest and greatest six core 8th gen core i7s we're not seeing scenarios where a hyper threading enabled quad core can't deliver playable performance in fact we're not even seeing scenarios where it's even on the edge for the most part testing was conducted with the geforce gtx 980ti which has currently the world's fastest gaming GPU testing also took place at turnin opinion for the most part we weren't maxing out the visual quality settings on my opinion these results really show a I suppose realistic worst-case if you will worst case would be a lower resolution with lower quality settings so let's talk more realistic settings with the GTX 1080i for these ashes of the singularity is a good example because it fully utilizes a six core 12 thread processor and therefore the 87 or okay was quite a bit faster than even the 4770k even with the odd fourth gen chorus of an overclocked the average frame rate was almost 33% greater that's an incredible difference and honestly more than I was expecting to see using the same GPU but now at the extreme quality preset reduces the 33% margin seen previously to just 17 as we're now more limited by the GTX 10 atti but that's not even the highest visual quality preset let's see how things look with the crazy preset thanks to the game's ability to really take full advantage of higher-end CPUs the 87 our case still comes out on top here but it is now just 9% faster this really is a best-case result 437 okay as most titles would see no difference in performance when using maximum quality settings take total war Warhammer - for example using the ultra quality preset completely neutralize the playing field so while it's easy to get caught up in the CPU limited benchmarks because they do look the most impressive you do to the largest margins there for the most part the reality for gamers will be far more GPU limited remember we are still using a GTX 280 Ti so even if you're the kind of game where that will turn the quality settings down a little bit to boost GPU performance doing so with something like a gtx 1070 will still result in a GPU limited scenario that is assure me that you don't go excessively low on the quality settings for example I went back and tested battlefield one using the gtx 1070 and compared the results to the gtx 1080i using both the medium and ultra quality presets at the top of the graph you can see both cpus compared with the gtx 1080i using the medium quality settings and here the 87 okay is 23% faster on average and 19% faster for the 1% below result swapping to the gtx 1070 and now the 87 RK is just 1% faster on average and 10% faster for the 1% low but again we are only using the medium quality settings increasing visual quality with the ultra preset and therefore GPU load the 87 or okay is now just 16% faster on average with the 1080 TI and 19% faster for the 1% low now the really telling result can be seen when using the ultra quality preset with the gtx 1070 now there is no distinguishing between the 87 okay and the 4770k in fact you'd likely get the same results without even overclocking the 4th gen core i7 processor as a side note to all of this you can of course overclock the 87 are ok for even greater performance when not GPU bound the ones I've noticed gamers are almost always GPU bound with higher-end core i7 CPUs so I hope that addresses why I haven't complicated things by also over clocking the 8700 K so to reiterate I don't think the upgrade from either the 4770k or the 4790k to the 8700 K it's a lot of Kay's is going to be worth that for the most part gamers won't even notice the difference although decent gains were at time seeing with the GTX 10 atti you do have to be playing at 1080p and you can't be upscaling or making heavy use of anti-aliasing for example meanwhile if you're spending $700 us on a graphics card buying a new CPU motherboard and memory combo isn't something you only think twice about anyway I suspect most gamers will be using something more like a gtx 1070 as we just saw the circumstances where the 87 or okay Willa for any kind of gain is rare now just lastly what about those with a core i5 46 70 K or 4690k what should they do buy a secondhand core i7 or upgraded the entire platform and go with a coffee like CPU assuming you could buy one at or near the MSRP personally I'd look for a secondhand core i7 processor they're currently selling for between 150 and 200 dollars u.s. on eBay with Buy Now options price between 220 and 250 dollars u.s. give it the 87 or K features an MSRP of 360 dollars u.s. it's certainly a much more costly endeavor you could even buy one for that price and then of course you do have to also buy as at 370 motherboard and ddr4 memory which is also not very cheaper right now the upgrade to the Rison v 1600 is certainly much more cost-effective but even so you're not really gaining anything when coming especially from a fourth gen core i7 at least not right now anyway it will be likely a few years before the true value of these six cord 12 thread CPUs will be realized at least for gaming on that note if you do anything else with your PC other than gaming as in productivity type work maybe video encoding for example then the rise in v 1600 would very much be a worthwhile upgrade or perhaps even the rise in seven 1700 anyway that's not really what this video is about the focus was on gaming and I think we covered everything so with that I'm gonna go on and get out of here on a final note they were big thank you to story blocks for supporting our work please check them out in the link in the video description below I'm here Steve say again next time guys