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welcome back to harbor unboxed today we have some big news to discuss Intel and AMD a teaming up yep you heard that right this isn't a joke now we used to pretty fiery head-to-head battles between AMD and Intel and this year in particular they've been plenty of those however it was just announced by Intel that future core series processors will have a Radeon graphics inside this partnership between AMD Intel has been rumored for quite some time now certainly well over a year and while some we're convinced it was on it just seemed a little too crazy to be true but despite the odds it's very true as unlikely as it seemed that Intel would work directly with AMD the idea really made sense Intel's integrated graphics are terrible if I'm honest and after countless years of development they've really made very little headway although severely lacking in the CPU Department AMD zone ap use have provided significantly better graphics performance when compared to anything Intel's been able to produce and this has been particularly problematic for Intel's mobile products therefore Intel's bit the bullet and has decided to employ AMD Radeon graphics for their eighth generation h-series core chips in the hope of bringing top-tier gaming to thin and white notebook PCs a key bit of technology to making this possible as Intel's embedded multi die interconnect bridge or emmab for sure I'm sure AMD probably have an internal code name for it perhaps it's superglue generally CPUs are made using a single continuous slab of silicon which includes everything from the processing course to the integrated graphics emmab now makes it possible to connect multiple dies for example you could connect a 10 nanometer die with a 40 nanometer diamond a 22 nanometer die essentially this technology allows for a more modular design a bit like AMD's infinity glue I'm I mean fabric granted multi chip packages aren't anything new but emid makes it possible at a much higher bandwidth and again this is much like what we've seen through AMD Zone infinity fabric as far as we can tell at this point email is only being used to connect to the radio and GPU to the HBM to memory stack more on HBM in a moment how the GPU connects to the CPU cores hasn't yet been revealed by AMD but if they're illustration proves to be accurate then it seems that the distance between the CPU and the GPU is simply too great for a member to be implemented you'd have to assume that the PCI bus is being used here and this is a proven method that provides plenty of bandwidth and well this is how discrete GPUs in your normal computer connect to your CPU and I'd say the reason why the distance on the package is so great between the CPU and the GPU is to help manage the thermal output the fact that these upcoming mobile core processors from Intel will leverage the power of families of radio and technology is a big deal but doing so well using HBM to memory is a seriously big deal AMD's own upcoming Rison based a views won't even take advantage of HP m2 memory rather they'll make use of ddr4 system memory so this means Amy's own graphics will likely perform better in Intel CPUs thanks to the increased memory bandwidth of course all this is yet to be seen but in any case it will likely end up being a win-win situation for AMD although Nvidia currently owns the largest chunk of the discrete GPU market the biggest player in the GPU market is actually Intel thanks to their embedded or integrated GPUs Intel owns the vast majority of the market around 70% in fact and this is due to the fact that although mainstream desktop and mobile CPUs ship with Intel HD graphics inside while gamers might not use it it's still there anyway with Intel now shifting to AMD graphics for their mobile parts this will drastically increase Amy's market share and will likely boost its mind share as well the likely result of this will be that more game developers will probably start to prioritize Radeon graphics part of the agreement between Intel and AMD is that Intel buys the chips from AMD and AMD provides full driver support just as they do with their console customers as you no doubt aware display drivers play a crucial role at the most basic then shot the operating system can communicate with the graphics card and vice versa but they've become increasingly complex over the years and now they require constant updates like monthly updates to support new games and technology intel's own graphics technology hasn't just been lacking on the hardware front but also on the software side of things it's just less of an issue given that you can't really play modern games on intel HD graphics due to our lack of rendering power it's not yet clear if Intel's going to completely drop their own integrated graphics from the chips that have the Radeon graphics or if they'll just keep it around as a low powered option that can be switched to we're not handling intense 3d tasks it seems a likely that Intel won't ditch their own graphics technology and instead just keep it around to handle things like accelerated video playback for example saving as much power as possible in a mobile device is obviously a priority and powering up a much more complex GPU along with the HBM to memory just four basic tasks probably wouldn't make that much sense there's still a lot of things that we don't yet know about these upcoming mobile processors but we do know they're on the way and we do know they should arrive in the first quarter of 2018 if this new partnership is successful than it will certainly put Nvidia in a very precarious position things continue to get more and more interesting in the CPU and GPU space and I can't wait to see what 2018 brings anyway that's going to do it for this one I'm your host Steve see you again soon guys