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welcome back to harbor unboxed today we're taking a glimpse into the future to see how rise in three will perform when it's released next week now you might be thinking why not just wait a week and test it then well honestly this is probably what I would have done but I spent the last week gathering all the results I've done quite a bit of testing and it wasn't till last Friday that AMD officially announced the release date and quite a few details so I knew the Rossum 3 release wasn't that far away I just didn't realize it wasn't that far away anyway I did the same thing just before rising 5 was released and those results turned out to be 100% accurate which is pretty unsurprising because risin 5 and now rising 3 are the same physical chips as risin 7 just with a certain degree of resources disabled I explained why this is in a bit more detail on the horizon 5 simulated benchmark video so I won't go all over that stuff again but basically when an eight-core CPU fails the quality control check with one or more caused the defective cause are then shut off and the chip is bent as a lower end part AMD has likely been holding up releasing horizon 3 until they have enough defective CPUs that can't be sold as Rison 5 models basically rising 3 is very similar to rising 5 horizon 5 1400 should say with one key difference being the SMT support is now disabled for those of you that don't know SMT is basically a embiez version of Intel hyper-threading this means whereas the 1400 has four cores and eight threads all Verizon 3 CPUs will come with 4 cores but just four threads and again it's due to the lack of the SMT support life for 1400 the Rison 3 1300 X and 1200 will feature 8 mega byte level 3 cache support for dual channel ddr3 666 memory and will be given a 65 watt TDP rating the Rison 3 specs are set in concrete now the 1300 X will operate at a base frequency of 3.5 gigahertz with a bruise frequency of 3.7 gigahertz while the slightly lower end 1200 will operate at 3.1 gigahertz with a boost frequency of 3.4 gigahertz both are unlocked parts for and through this on a budget it makes a little sense to what for the more expensive 1300 X the 1300 X is suggested or rather rumored at this point to be priced at 130 dollars us while the 1200 is set to come in at just a hundred and ten dollars us saving $40 by purchasing the r3 1300 x over the r5 1400 probably won't be worth it that said though the $60 saving offered by the r3 1200 should be a lot more enticing the question is how much slower does disabling SMT make rise and three and how do they compare with similarly priced Intel CPUs actually comparing rise and three with equivalent Intel CPUs at these price points is a little tricky because the Intel CPUs here make no sense whatsoever as I've touched on numerous times in the past the Pentium G 4560 eliminates everything right up to the core i5 7400 that means everything price between $64 us and $180 us is completely pointless ruling out Intel's entire cable 8 core i3 range and again this place the rise in three CPUs in an awkward spot at 110 and 130 dollars us that said if they can take it to the locked core i5 part such as a 70 470 500 then they will event themselves a comfortable position in the market segment so without wasting any more time let's see how the rising 3c if you use look as we take the rise in 5 1400 disable SMT and adjust the boost and base clock speeds accordingly starting off I took a look at the memory balance performance just to make sure everything was in check here as expected disabling SMT support had no impact on memory balance and when paired with ddr4 29:33 memory the rise in three processors should enjoy a bandwidth of 35 gigabytes per second please note that I did not for 2933 memory here opposed to 3200 for the simple fact that some of our lower end rising 5cp us still have trouble running higher clocked memory so I'm going to assume motorized in 3 CPUs will as well for measuring single and multi traded rendering performance we have Cinebench r15 and here the rise and 3 processors stack up rather well the single thread performance of the 1300 X is just 5% down on the core i5 7500 while the multitrader performance is 9% lower that said keep in mind that both the 1200 and 1300 X will be fully unlocked so chances are with a little bit of tinkering you can put both well head of the i-5 7500 and this test before physical cause of the rise and three CPUs are able to match the two much higher clocked and hyper threading enabled core i3 70 350 K cause in the 7-zip file manager benchmark again the r3 1300 X wasn't that much slower than the more expensive i-5 7500 well both easily beat the pentium g 45 60 though that is a much cheaper cpu moving the excel workload I have to admit I was expecting the rise in three CPUs to perform much better here dropping SMT support along with lower operating frequencies and a reduction the level 3 cache capacity has more than half the performance from the 1500 X they also come in well behind the i3 73 50k and miles behind the i5 7500 the r3 1200 for example was only able to match the pentium g 45 60 in its out-of-the-box spec for general usage the Rison 3 CPU should be comparable to the pentium g 45 60 and Core i5 7500 and while we're certainly seeing this in the PC mark 10 essentials benchmark the only issue here for the rise in 3 CPS is the operating clock speed overclocked them a little and they will no doubt match the i5 7500 the productivity numbers are pretty much what we were expecting given the r5 1500 X's performance also given the core i3 7350 K can be seen beating the core i5 7500 in the spreadsheets test and almost matching it for the writing test it's clear to say this benchmark favor single thread performance horizon 3 CPUs scored very well in the photo editing test crushing the dual core Intel CPUs while roughly matching the core i5 7500 that said the rendering and visualization performance was lower than expected here the r3 1300 X roughly matched the i3 73 50k then finally for video editing the rise and three processes find themselves situated between the Pentium D 45 60 and Core i5 7500 certainly not a bad result but again this test prefers clock speed over core count I had expected the rise in three CPUs to knock off the core i3 73 50k in the corona benchmark but it wasn't to be the r3 3900 X was still 7% slower and 16% slower than the i5 7500 the pentium g 45 60 was also surprisingly slow in this test a very slow in fact given its just 17 percent lower than the 73 50k yeah it was a little over 40 percent slower this doesn't really make sense until you account for the fact that it does also have 25 percent less bandwidth at its disposal so those two shortcomings combined have led to the G 45 sixties downfall in this test the G 45 60 also gets trashed in the blender render test though this time the Rison 3 cpus look a lot more competitive as the R 3 1200 match the 73 50k while the r3 1300 X edged ahead given up the risin 5 1500 X is slightly sold me I 570 500 and a handbrake test I wasn't expecting the SMT disabled Rison 3 to do well that's that they do manage to edge out the core I 373 50k and through overclocking should come quite close to matching the 7500 for content creators on a budget the Rison 3 CPUs look to be a godsend the r3 1300 match the i5 7500 and of course it does so at a much more affordable price and again it can be overclocked for even greater performance the same is of course also true for the r3 1200 when it comes to gaming performance the Rison 3 CPUs look as though they provide decent performance for a mid-range GPU as they maintain well over 60 FPS at all times in our battlefield 1 benchmark performance was comparable to the core i3 73 50k in this title though it was a good bit slower than the core i5 7500 much the same as seen when testing with mafia 3 horizon 3 1200 and 1300 ex struggle against the core i3 73 50k though they are clearly faster than the Pentium G 45 60 again decent performance here for those wanting to use a mid-range graphics card but for anything faster than the gtx 1070 some serious overclocking will be required moving over to hitman we do see much more competitive performance from the rising three CPUs in fact here the r3 1300 X is able to match the core i5 7500 it's also not a great deal slower than the r5 1500 X so overclocking the horizon three CPUs will bring them right into play here finally we have ashes of the singularity and this time the rise in three 1300 X is only able to match the core i3 73 50k with an average of 61 fps and this makes it quite a bit slower than the core i5 7500 a bit of a disappointing result but again whereas the i5 7,500 is limited to the performance here it will be possible to squeeze more frames out of the rise in three CPUs throughout the clocking power consumption is about we'd expect it to be the rise in three 13-hundred should consume around the same amount of power as the core i5 7500 keep in mind that we are testing with a high index 370 system with a liquid cooling pump and all that other extreme gear and expect with a high-end rig so in a lower spec system you will see better numbers so again keep that in mind taking a final look at power consumption we have the figures from the Cinebench r15 multi-threaded test and here the rise and three CPUs look a little more hungry than the core i5 7500 though the numbers are hardly extreme and this is just a simulated benchmark okay so based on the simulated benchmarks Rison 3 certainly looks as though it's going to be very competitive that said though as you might expect when compared to Intel processors or the Intel competition AMD came out on top in some of the tests while the core i3 73 50k and Core i5 7500 pulled ahead and others anyway let's take a quick look at a few price versus performance scatter plots as we saw previously bang for your buck the rosen 3 CPUs really deliver when working with Premiere Pro CC they might not be the fastest CPUs after all both were slightly sold in the core i5 7500 but given their price the performance scene is commendable horizon 3 CPUs also deliver a reasonable value and handbrake the r3 1300 X for example should be slightly more affordable than the i3 73 50k while it delivers slightly better performance meanwhile the r3 1200 is a good bit cheaper and it's also again slightly faster again the Rison 3 CPUs do reasonably well in the 7-zip test edging out the core i3 73 50k that said you do get 80% greater performance with the r5 1,500 X when compared to the r3 1300 x4 just a 46% increase in price and of course when taking the overall platform cost into account the percentage will be even lower when it comes to gaming rise and 3 is going to be a mixed bag that said there was a mid-range graphics card at the r3 1,300 X and 1200 will deliver the same performance as the r5 1500 X and Core i5 7500 for the most part so it's a bit of a non-issue that said that with a powerful GPU such as the extremely overkill GTX 1080i we see that for hitman the rising three CPUs do trail the core i3 7350 K at this point I would just like to note that for my official horizon three benchmark video I will be including a good range graphics card in the testing anyway moving on testing with battlefield 1 shows that the Rison 3 1300 X and core i3 70-degree 50k to be on par in terms of performance however as we do expect the rise in CP to be more affordable therefore it should present better value again though the r5 1500 X does represent considerably better value when compared with a high end GPU alright so now we have a pretty good idea of how the horizon 3 CPUs are going to perform and I'm extremely confident of the accuracy of the numbers just shown overall the performance was pretty much as expected I guess depending on how you look at it and that's both a good and bad thing from these more affordable quad-core processors for now let's ignore the rest of Amy's own lineup and instead focus solely on the competing Intel chips in terms of value rise and 3 certainly looks to have the locked core i5s well and truly beaten especially if you take overclocking into account which we haven't done here yet anyway you can safely assume that will be possible to boost the performance of these rather than three CPUs by at least 10% I'd say they'd probably be more likely around 15% so the r3 1300 X and 1200 are the obvious choice over the dual core core i3 7350 K that said though that was a CPU no one should have been buying anyway at $150 u.s. and this is kind of the problem rising three phases while superior in terms of value it's pretty much beating and already begging line up even today in mid 2017 if you want to build an affordable brand new computer the pentium g 45 60 still puts forward a very strong case it enables playable performance and the latest titles using an entry level or mid-range graphics card and it's extremely efficient going beyond intel's pentium g 4560 i'd say that the horizon 5 1400 / 1500 x seemed like the obvious choice and yet if you're really serious about your pc just save up a little extra cash and get the 6 core r5 1600 and call it a day for example if you went with the cheapest possible gaming rig build with a basic be 350 board 8 gigabytes of ddr4 memory a cheap case and power supply combo say the geforce gtx ten fifty and a 500 gigabyte Seagate Fire Korea for example you'd save just 18% on the entire system build cost by opting for the r3 1200 over the r5 1600 so think about that for a moment basically you're getting half as much level three cache two less cores and ate less threads also for those of you wondering the same system would be just 10% cheaper with the r3 1200 approached the SMT enabled r5 1400 so again spending a little more does seem to get you a lot more in this case still if you're hell-bent on spending as little as possible the horizon 3 1200 it's just a hundred and ten dollars u.s. is a super chip things like overclocking particularly with the stock cooler or what I want to explore in next week's video and that will tell us if the 1200 is indeed worth buying over Intel's g45 60 I'm also assuming that the budget orientated race stealth will be included with these CPUs speaking of the G 45 60 there is a rumor going around the moment that Intel is discontinuing that CPU or at least making it difficult to buy which it has been for quite a while in the u.s. right now Australia you can buy the chip quite easily um they're very well priced very competitively priced in fact but yeah availability over in the US has been very poor that could be down to the extreme demand or it could be down to Intel playing a bit of funny buggers wrapping things up I'd say that the biggest problem for Verizon 3 is AMD's own rise and 5 line up it's just so strong in terms of value and that is going to make it difficult for Rison to really compete in my opinion still I feel like if most are three 1200 chips can overclock to a reasonable frequency using the Box cooler then that would indeed make them very enticing whatever way you look at though I think it's fair to say that Intel's mid-range lineup is already dead so at least rising 3 is won that battle of course the benchmark shown in this video are simulated and the pricing is estimated so I'll have to wait til rise and three arrives next week before we can deliver any real concrete information that said I do believe this video to be accurate my rising fire simulated video was spot-on so I think no reason why we should differ for those holding out for Aizen 3 I hope this video has been useful and perhaps you should just pull the trigger on an r5 1400 more preferably the 1600 if you can stretch the budget that far that's going to do it for this one if you liked this video please take a moment to helps out hit the like button subscribe if you haven't already and hit that little notification 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