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AMD Ryzen 3 1300X & 1200 Review, Core i3 Range Put On Notice!

2017-07-27
welcome back to how our own box for our official risin 3 coverage at this point you probably know just about everything there is to know about the rise and three 1300 x and 1200 with that little exception of exactly how they perform and of course the price that being the case I'm going to jump right into the benchmarks of this one I'm also going to be looking at overclocking performance throughout the benchmarks and then towards the end of video I'll show you just how well these rise in three CPUs overclock using the race stealth box cooler when we look at things such as temperatures speaking of overclocking the risin 312 hundred hits 3.9 gigahertz using the Box cooler while the 1300 X did slightly better hitting 4 gigahertz so without any further ado let's get to it first up memory performance and here are a few quick notes before we get into it when I put together my rising through simulated video I use ddr4 29:33 memory with SMT disabled on the Rison v 1400 and i noted that it was unlikely that the Rison 3 cpus would be able to run with higher frequency memory so far this has indeed been the case as neither the 1300 X nor the 1200 would post using ddr4 3200 via the XMP setting so I was forced to run ddr4 29:33 and this was also the case with my horizon 5 1500 X and 1400 CPU s nonetheless performance was decent and we saw over 34 gigabytes per second of memory bandwidth and that figure was boosted to around 35 and a half gigabytes per second once the CPU is were overclocked moving on we have the first CPU related benchmark and here the risin 312 hundred shows fairly weak single thread performance cover with reasonably decent multi-threaded performance the higher clocked 1300 X made out a bit better matching the single thread performance of the core i5 7500 with slightly weaker multi-threaded performance overclocked both wise and three CPUs achieved similar scores as they are both now running at similar frequencies both are faster than the core i5 7500 for both the single and multi-threaded tests for those interested in compression and decompression work we have 7-zip and here the 1200 was a good custom the pentium g 4560 but slower than the core i3 7350 k the 1300 x was much more impressive as a beat 270 true 50k and edged out the i5 7500 that said though once overclocked both rise and three cpus set comfortably ahead of the core i5 7500 moving on from compression work we have spreadsheet performance with Microsoft Excel 2016 here the 1300 X did very well matching the lower clocked 1400 meanwhile the 1200 did trail the i3 7500 K but it was much faster than the G 4560 overclocked we squeezed a little more out of the rise in three CPUs but even so the 1,300 X still trailed the i5 7500 by a small margin moving on we have the first of four PC mark 10 test Suites that we're going to look at the data here is arranged by the video conferencing results and here the rise and three CPUs slide in between the Pentium D 45 60 and Core i3 73 50k meanwhile once overclocked they moved ahead of the core i5 7500 the productivity test has been arranged by the spreadsheet results and here the Rison three CPU set at the bottom of our graph behind the G 45 60 overclocked though they did make up some considerable ground in this test and then they're able to match the horizon 5 1600 X and Core i5 7500 so quite an extreme recovery there this graph has been arranged by the photo editing result and here the rise in 3 CPUs do very well the 1300 X was almost able to match the core i5 7500 and once overclocked both the 1200 and 1300 X pulled ahead and now are delivering 1500 X like performance finally we have the video editing test and here the Rison 3 1200 was slightly faster than the G 45 60 while the 1300 X sat between the i5 7500 and I 373 50 K the higher clocked core i3 CPU was the faster of the two overclocking boosted performance significantly and we are now seeing core i7 7700 K light performance in this test so very impressive stuff there moving on from PC mark can we have the corona benchmark and here the horizon 3 1200 wasn't much faster than the G 45 60 thankfully though the 3100 X was a good bit faster and even managed to beat the i3 7350 M in fact it wasn't much slower than the quad core i5 7500 overclocking unfortunately didn't help improve the 1300 score by and noteworthy margin that was now fast in the i5 7500 as was the 1200 so good result for the budget rise and three CPUs nonetheless the horizon 3 1200 isn't much slower than the AI 373 50k in bilenda meanwhile the 1300 X was faster than the core i3 73 50k but it was also much slower than the i5 7500 unfortunately overclocked the 1300 X was only able to match the i5 7500 I had expected given the stock performance that would pull ahead of here but as I said unfortunately that wasn't the case moving on to handbrake the Rison 3 CPUs beat Intel's Pentium and core i3 range but even overclocked didn't have enough in the tank to match the Core i5 series for content creators on a budget the horizon series looks to be a godsend especially once overclocked stock / 1200 roughly matched the i3 73 50k while the 1300 X at between the 1750 K&I v 7500 overclocked though the 1300 xB to the i5 7500 and isn't that much slow in the risin 5 1400 so a great result in Premiere Pro CC moving on it's now time for some games please note that I have dropped mafia 3 the games been hugely inconsistent over the past few months and another new recent patch has again changed things for Rison I'm now seeing much better performance from Verizon similar what I was seeing many months ago and raisin was first released but the game has some other performance glitches that were quite annoying during testing so rather than waste any more time with this title I'm dumping it for good so here we have battlefield 1 and some very interesting results indeed please note I am using a high end GPU at 1080p but plan to release a more in-depth gaming focus video soon using a range of GPUs so hang tight for that one anyway as I said these results as they stand are very interesting out of the box the horizon 3 CPUs do do very well here particularly when looking at the minimum frame rate which is considerably better than that of intel's dual-core hyper threading enabled g 45 60 and 70 350k overclocked the Rison 3c you's are able to match the core i5 7500 which is an exceptional result moving on the Hitman we do again see very strong gaming performance Verizon three here both the 1200 and 1300 easily beat the G 4560 while they are roughly on par with the i5 or 7500 once overclocked they're able to overtake the 7500 and deliver a similar experience to the SMT enabled quad core 1400 and 1500 X CPUs finishing up the gaming benchmarks we have ashes of the singularity and here we have some slightly disappointing results it would seem the lack of SMT support here really hurts horizon 3 in this title even overclocked the rising three CPUs were quite a bit slow in the core i5 7500 and their SMT enabled quad core parts now onto power consumption the Rison 3 1200 thanks was relatively low clock speeds was very light on the go juice pushing total system consumption adjust 87 watts in our excel test the 1300 X was quite a bit hungrier considerably more than you would expect based on the results seen by the 1200 although the 1200 is clock eight to ten percent lower total system consumption was more like 26% lower the reason for this being that Maya's rock board was running the r3 1200 at a much lower voltage than the 1300 X and this really helps reduce consumption overclock though they were much similar but again I was able to hit 3.9 gigahertz using much less voltage than it took to push the 1300 X 2 4 gigahertz this intervention r15 power consumption result more what I was expecting to see that said the 1200 is still consuming around 17% less power when comparing total system figures which placed the 1200 on par with the i3 783 50k and i5 7500 once overclocked though I have to say consumption was still very tame and a 1300 X for example only pushed total system consumption to 120 watts ok so that concludes the power consumption testing moving on to the temperatures now for this testing I use the Wraith stealth box color exclusively as I feel this option makes the most sense for these budget coolers that said though there are $20 options which will enable lower temperatures so be sure to keep that in mind anyway out of the box the 1300 x peaked at 62 degrees when stressing the CPU FPU and cache the 1200 hit fifty-five degrees that was a very impressive result indeed that said if we stressed just the CPU which I feel is probably a more realistic stress test the 1,300 x max data just 49 degrees and the 1,200 hit just 42 degrees for a box cooler into heavier load they are simply amazing results moving to the overclocking results let's look at the 1200 first again idle temperatures were in the low 30s stressing the CPU saw temps max out at just 62 degrees while stressing the FPU and cache saw temps touch on 72 degrees going for the most part they did sit around 67 degrees I was also still using the default fan curve here and I would describe the race stealth as a very quiet cooler which is probably the most shocking part now the slightly higher clocked 1300 X of 4 gigahertz with that additional voltage required the fan speed to be maxed out that said even at full speed spinning at 2,600 rpm the race stealth isn't hideously loud stressing just the CPUs or temperatures hit 63 degrees which is very manageable that said stressing both the FPU and cash saw peaks of around 92 degrees though keep in mind for the most part the system didn't sit at around 83 degrees which is much more acceptable so all in all some incredibly good results from the race stealth box cooler when overclocking these rise on three CPUs before wrapping things up let's take a quick look at a few price versus performance scatter plots now please note we are just comparing CPU prices here this doesn't take an oil count additional costs like the need for a cooler for Intel's K Series for example well this graph is quite telling isn't it for those of you wondering what you're looking at the further to the right the plots the better the performance and the lower the plots the better the price so basically you want to be situated as far right as possible and as low as possible doing just that is the overclocked r3 1200 the 1200 wasn't much slower than the core i5 7500 while costing almost half as much meanwhile it's still cheaper than the i3 73 50k but much faster when comparing the minimum frame rate the overclocked 1300 X was slightly faster but also more expensive there isn't much in it but the 1200 is still the better value choice here moving on to handbrake we see scatterplot is again dominated by red dots in all the right spots sorry about that anyway Angele does put up more of a fight this time but for quite a bit less than the core i3 7350 k the risin three 1200 delivers a smidgen more performance overclock the 1200 pull the head of the i3 semi 350 K of course you can overclock the Intel chip but once you factor in the price of a motherboard with an overclocking enabled chipset and a cooler the price versus performance ratio turns to the stuff Intel users as a Tim lastly we have Premiere Pro CC and here the red team comes out in force it's all Verizon here stop the r3 1200 is a particularly impressive but once you overclock things change rapidly for example the render times overclocked it's not much slower than the core i5 7500 and of course at almost half the price that's a very solid result looking at this scatterplot it's pretty clear for content creators Rison it's a bit of a good thing okay time to wrap things up so last week we checked out simulated rising three performances in the r5 1400 with SMT disabled and a few minor adjustments to the operating clock speeds at the time we were working on the assumption that the leaked pricing info was correct which would see the r3 1200 price is 110 dollars us with the r3 1300 X coming in at $130 us and as it turns out those figures were indeed correct based on previous findings I know that Rison 3 looked as though it was going to be a decent proposition but wasn't overly excited by what I saw yes in terms of value it beats out the lock core i5s and for that matter the entire core i3 range but when compared to the SMT enabled Rison 5 quad core such as the 1400 and 1500 X I felt like spending a little more to receive all eight threads was probably going to be the smarter move for most however we've now got all the facts at hand previously I wasn't sure on things such as the cooler that would be included in the package and what kind of overclocking Hedren we could expect to see from these budget processors as it turns out we get the nice little race stealth and as we saw that does a commendable job and it allowed us it 3.9 gigahertz on my 1200 and 4 gigahertz almost there 900 X the fact that these overclocks were achieved using nothing more than the humble box cooler is nothing short of amazing and it certainly adds a lot of value to these chips especially when you consider the core i3 70 350 K doesn't come with a cooler at all and it currently retails for one hundred and fifty dollars u.s. so the Rison 3 1300 X and 1200 are the obvious choice over the dual core Core i3 70 350 K a CPU no one should have been buying anyway especially at $150 u.s. asking price and this in my opinion is kind of the problem rising three phases while superior in terms of value it's beating and already beaten line up from this point forward I'll largely be regurgitating the conclusion from my rise and three simulator video a few notes here and there but overall the same message so here we go even today in mid 2017 if I wanted to build an affordable brand-new computer the pentium g 45 60 still puts forward a strong case that is assuming you can get one for the MSRP of $64 u.s. it enables playable performance in the latest titles using an entry level or mid-range graphics card and on top of that it's super efficient however having said that locally here in australia it's currently out of stock everywhere i checked and in the u.s. major retailers such as amazon new egg and superb is for example are all showing no stock at the time of putting this video together PNH photo had stock but we're asking $80 u.s. and that's a 25% markup over the MSRP so I feel like the intel pentium g 4600 is the new budget choice from intel and that's currently selling for a way way less attractive $87 eos at that price for me it's no doubt going to be Rison 3 1200 all day ignoring Intel lineup which to be honest you really safely can do it these price points the Rison v 1400 / 1500 x seem like the obvious choice and yet if you were really serious about your PC I would recommend save a little extra cash and get the 6 core r5 1600 and call it a day my reason for saying this is because if you went for the cheapest possible gaming rebuild with a basic be 350 board 8 gigabytes of ddr4 memory chip Kayson power supply combo the geforce gtx 1050 and something like a 500 gigabyte Seagate fire tutor sshd you'd save just 18% on the entire build when opting for the r3 1200 over the r5 1600 you'd be getting half as much level 3 cache to less cores and ate less threads for those wondering the same system would be just 10% cheaper with the r3 1200 opposed to the SMT enabled r5 1400 so again spending a little more does seem to get you a lot more in this case still if you're hell-bent on spending as little as possible the Verizon 3 1200 just 110 dollars u.s. is a super chip given that a 1300 X did only produce an additional 100 megahertz overclock over the 1200 and I feel like that's probably a best-case scenario I don't feel like spending an additional $20 is worth it just get the base model 1200 would be my advice overclocked to 1200 is a Ripper often delivering 1500 X like performance in games of course you can overclock the 1500 X for even more performance but that's beside the point well kind of almost half the price of the core i5 7500 the overclocked r3 1200 obviously represents in the same value and gamers can look forward to a similar level of performance anyway wrapping things up I'd again conclude by saying that there'll be a real issue for the horizon 3 lineup is aimed a zone rather than 5 line up the riving fires just so strong in terms of value that said though I am keen to do further testing as I always am I think one cool test would be to take the r3 1200 clock at at 3 point 9 units as we did in this very video and compare it to the r5 1400 at the same 3.9 gigahertz and then compare them in a huge range of games using a mid-range graphics card to see just how much difference there really is of course as I just said there is much more testing be done I have a few more ideas I would like to do I don't know for some of you this day one review would have left a bit to be desired and would have liked to see a few more testing some mid-range GPUs and the mix and stuff like that but they're just really honestly isn't time to get that much testing done for these day 1 reviews they're pretty much rushed as it is I want to touch on things like thermals power consumption overclocking and all that kind of important stuff and then follow up later with more in-depth benchmarking videos which is what I plan to do I would like to a video where I compare quite a few relevant CPUs with a range of GPUs at a few resolutions in a he per game so that in itself is going to take a lot of time but possibly something I'm even more keen to do is an upgrade as guide where I'll include something like the Sandy Bridge I 520 500k and the FX 8350 for example I think that would be a really cool video but anyway I'm going to end this one here if you liked the video you know what to do hit the like button for us really helps us out 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