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welcome back to harbor unbox today we're going to take a look at the risin v 3600 and thanks to our patreon community we were able to purchase this processor for a reasonably early review and we can do that rather than waiting for AMD to provide them at a later date not quite sure when AMD is providing these CPUs but rather wait we've gone out and bought one so a big thank you to everyone who supports us directly so there isin 5 3600 is a 6 chord 12 thread CPU that clocks between 3.6 Q Hertz and 4.2 gigahertz it features a 32 megabyte l3 cache and a 65 watt TDP included in the package is the Wraith stealth cooler and AMD has set the MSRP at just $200 so it's the same launch price as the r5 2600 which was $20 less than the original v 1600 the primary competition for the r5 3600 comes from the Intel Core i5 9600 the non K model which costs two hundred and thirteen dollars u.s. but since we don't have that part and it doesn't appear to be on sale the more expensive 9600 K will have to do it costs two hundred fifty-five dollars u.s. and it doesn't include a box cooler therefore in terms of pricing Intel's already on the back foot so it'll be interesting to see how they stack up when it comes to the benchmarks speaking of which the MSI x5 70 creation was used for testing I know it's an overkill motherboard it's certainly not necessary a B 450 board will work just fine but I want to use the same test setup that I did for the other rise and processors so this means the rise in fire for 3,600 was tested on the same x5 70 board and it's been configured with the same ddr4 3200 cell 14 memory and I used the included box cooler for the review of the CPU as well then the eighth and ninth gen Intel Core processors were benchmarked on the gigabyte is at 390 or ultra using the same ddr4 3200 cell 14 memory but they were cooled using the corsair hydro series h 115 i RGB platinum 200 millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler please note the intel cpus are not TDP restricted as that's not the out of the box experience so we're showing the absolute best case scenario out-of-the-box performance with the Intel processors but please note I'll also be factoring in the cost of an aftermarket cooler for the Intel CPUs in the cost analysis at the end of this video and it works out to be in AMD's favored to use the Box cooler as using an aftermarket solution really only boost gaming performance by one to two percent please note I have removed the higher and more expensive CPU such as the 3900 X 9700 k91 RK for a group of 29 20x and core i7 7900 X as they aren't really relevant we're looking at a $200 CPU but you can cross-reference the results from our earlier third gen rising review if you like finally the graphics card of choice is the MSI trio GeForce artex 2080 ti okay I think that covers everything let's get into the benchmark results as usual we'll start off with the Cinebench our twenty multi-core test and right away I'm pretty blown away by the 3600 s performance here it matched the Rison seven 1800 X with just over 3,600 points yep the 3600 scored roughly 3,600 points amazing but let's move on this made at four percent faster than the 8700 K almost twenty percent faster in the 2600 X and 28% faster than the model it's replacing the 2600 then when compared to the r5 1600 the new 3600 is 45% faster that's pretty insane in two years AMD has increased performance at the $200 price point by almost 50% the single core performance is equally impressive here the 3600 was just 4% slower than the 3700 X and that meant it was able to match the core i5 9600 K and just edged out the 8700 K moving on to WinRAR and here we see the r5 3600 looks very good falling just short of the 8700 K by a mere 4% margin that made at 45% faster than the core i7 77 or okay and rise in 720 700 X so some pretty incredible gains here for the third gen Rison part again this time when testing with 7-zip we see the 3,600 beating the 2700 X the compression performance really is nothing short of amazing and met the 3600 was 14% the 8700 K it did fall behind the older eight Corazon processes in the decompression test but even so it was still 16 percent faster than the 8700 K for budding content creators the r5 3600 will be a godsend for just $200 it completed our 4k workload four percent faster than the 8700 K and while that's far from a significant margin remember the 8700 K is a 360 US dollar processor interestingly the 3600 does come up short again against the ad700 K in the latest version of the VRA benchmark here it was 6% slower but again given the difference in price that's hardly a bad result for AMD still when compared to the r5 2600 it was 17% faster and a whopping 32% faster than the r5 1600 they're moving along once again AMD's new six core CPU trailed the 87 ROK by a small margin in the corona benchmark so given the difference in price this is still a very good result for the 3600 it did manage to pull ahead for the blender test here it was just a single percent faster than the 87 ok so basically the same result but that is still clearly a very good result for AMD's new $200 desktop processor but perhaps more impressive are the total system power consumption figures we recorded when running the blender benchmark as you can see the r5 3600 consume the same amount of power as the quad core Core i7 77 okay and only slightly more than the 9600 K now you might think consuming slightly more power the 9600 K isn't that impressive but remember the 3600 was almost 40% faster than the Core i5 processor in this test so in terms of power efficiency it's extremely impressive okay time for gaming and first up we have Assassin's Creed Odyssey and here the 3600 slightly edged out the 8700 K is one percent low result despite being a few frames slower on average still you can very much cool what we're seeing here 8700 K light performance for the new horizon 5 3600 so again that is a big win for AMD as far as I'm concerned like what we saw with the 3900 X and 3700 X review the third gen rise and processors do slip a little in this title at 1440p and this is also true for the r5 3600 here at 6% smile nearly 700 K not a massive margin but normally you'd expect things to close up at 1440p the battlefield 5 results are again a little disappointing though I have to remind myself the 3600 isn't competing with the 8700 K its target is the 9600 K and here it improves 1% low performance by 23% so an easy win for the new risin 5 processor even at 1440p despite the 9600 K appearing quicker when looking at the average framerate the 1% low performance of the 3600 was actually 18% higher and this allowed it to deliver a smoother and more consistent gaming experience next up we have shut off the Tomb Raider and here's a 3600 matched the 9600 K which is a very solid result given the 9600 K costs more and requires you to purchase a cooler separately the 1440p results were much the same the 9600 K did creep ahead by a few frames but overall performance was competitive and the 1% low performance of the 3600 was a good bit faster than any of these 2nd gen rising parts moving on to the division 2 and here at 1080p the 3600 edged out the 9600 K and made a significant step forward from not just the 2600 X but also the 2700 X interestingly though this time at 1440p the 3600 was able to pull further ahead of the 9600 K namely when looking at the 1% low performance in fact the 3600 matched the 3700 X and that man it was a good bit faster in the 2,700 X and 8700 K as we've come to expect from horizon the performance in Far Cry new dawn was a bit disappointing at least relative to the competing Intel processors and overall performance was still very good and the game plate was incredibly smooth even at 1440p the 3600 is still well down on the 9600 okay particularly when looking at the 1% low results performance in World War Z was also low relative to the Intel CPUs but of course with well over 100 FPS at all times it probably doesn't matter too much in this instance interestingly the rice and CPUs create some kind of performance bottleneck in this title and we see what looks to be a 135 FPS Kappa 1440p it's very odd that considering the Intel CPUs pushed up to and 50 FPS Verizon 5 3,600 was solid enrage to averaging 100 60 FPS and this meant it wasn't a great deal slower than the 9600 K moreover the 3600 was fast enough to find the limits of the r-tx 2082 at 1440p though this was true of almost all the CPUs tested this time when testing with hitman 2 we see the 3600 was 7% slower than 92,000 ok when looking at the average framerate not a massive difference but again this isn't a great title for the rise in CPUs we find similar results at 1440p though here the 3600 basically matched the 1% low performance of the 96 and ok I don't over all the gaming experience was indistinguishable between these 2 CPUs finishing up the gaming benchmarks we have Total War three kingdoms and he the 3600 offered stronger 1% low performance than the 96 on our K but it did also provide slightly lower average frame rates but once again the jump to 1440p with the RT x 20 80 TI we see the performance margins are neutralized and here the 9600 K and 3600 enabled the same level of performance as was the case with the 3700 X and 3900 X there's very little overclocking Headroom to speak of with the 3600 the best I could do with an all-in-one liquid cooler was a 4.2 gigahertz or Core overclock so again you're best off enabling PBO plus the order OC feature in the rise and master software this boosted the Cinebench r20 multi-core score by a mere 4% here we say that the PBA plus order OC overclock improved the single core score by just one and a half percent so I suspect most won't bother with overclocking as it's not really worth the added heat speaking of which let's check out the thermal performance of the included Wraith stealth box cooler with the race stealth install the 3600 maintained a 4 gigahertz clock speed out of the box during a one-hour long blender stress test this is an extreme stress test so the fact that it peaked at just 80 degrees is actually pretty good especially given it was virtually silent you can enable PBO with the Box cooler but it won't do much as you're already near the thermal limit so basically we gain just 25 megahertz for a 4 degree increase in temperature that big in the case I don't recommend using PBO with the Box cooler with a decent cooler installed temperatures were dropped quite significantly you really don't need something as Extreme as the Corsair hydro Series edge 115 i 280 millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler but I did use that for the 3,700 X and I wanted to make these results comparable for future content anyway with the a i/o installed these stock temps drop to just 62 degrees and now by default the 3600 ran at 4,000 125 megahertz so a 3% order overclock then with PBO enabled we got another 85 megahertz and this increased the load temp to 68 degrees which is obviously still very cool okay so now that we've seen how the new risin 530 600 performs in a range of applications and games it's time to work out just how good it is in terms of value so let's go do that right now for the cost per frame data we're adding the cost of the cooler to the Intel systems I believe a $45 budget for the cooler master hyper 212 Black Edition is very reasonable with those adjustments made the core i5 9600 K comes in at a total cost of $295 us and that means the cost per frame figure is two dollars and 18 cents which places it on par with the horizon 720 700 X the horizon 530 600 comes out significantly more affordable at just $1 53 per frame as it delivers a similar level of performance but costs almost $100 less this makes the 3600 better values in the 2600 X at its current $195 asking price though it is 18 percent more costly than the vanilla 2600 even so given the improvements in efficiency and the absolutely a monstrous performance uplift in productivity workloads I feel it's going to be easy for consumers to justify that small price premium well there you have it as predicted the horizon 530 600 offers a tremendous amount of value and because it just sips power it'll work on even the most basic be 350 motherboard providing it receives the necessary BIOS update alternatively for new builders you can grab my favorite be 450 board the MSI be 450 tomahawk and you'll have a killer combo for a smidgen over $300 u.s. and that's that's basically what you'll pay for a 9600 K with a mid-range cooler then in the few your options are aplenty the horizon 730 700x the horizon 930 900 X or maybe even the 16-core 39 50 X who knows what secondhand deals will be available in these parts in a few years time this is why I've been such a big proponent of AMD's a m4 platform those who bought in two years ago with an affordable be 350 motherboard and say the Rison v 1600 for example you now have the option of slotting in the r5 3600 for up to a 35 percent performance boost in games and at least a 45 percent boost in applications though as we saw in WinRAR it can be over a 100 percent boost but as I alluded to a moment ago even for those building a new PC from the ground up the r5 3600 looks to be the best option it absolutely smoked the core i5 9600 K and every single application benchmark where you ran and worst case it matches its single core performance you get 12 threads opposed to two six so it's no doubt going to age better but this time you don't have to roll a dice on rise ins longevity as it's faster today and sure the 9600 K was a little faster and a few of the games tested but the 3600 was miles faster where you'll absolutely notice it so this one's pretty cut and dry for me at least Intel cuts pricing quite heavily I really can't see a reason to consider their processors particularly the mid-range offerings such as the 9600 K and that's going to do it for this one up next I'll have some be 350 motherboard testing to see just how well these third gen rise and processes work on entry-level boards I'll be throwing probably this one definitely the 3700 X and 39 of X at those boards obviously if they work this little guy will as well baby way keep an eye out for that should be pretty good and of course if you enjoyed this video feel free to the like button for us and you can subscribe for more content and if you appreciate the work we do or her are boxed and you want to make sure we can test things like this by buying them then you can jump over to our patreon page and get access to all the good stuff we do over there like exclusive discord server that's really cool we have a monthly live stream with Tim and myself that's also a lot of fun we'll be doing that probably the next week or two for this month anyway enough from me thank you for watching I am your host Steve and I'll see you again next time you