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welcome back to harbor unboxed so recently I purchased the risin 5 3,600 for review and I found it to be a cracking good deal in short it murdered the 9600 k in core heavy productivity benchmarks and it was right there for the gaming tests as well often offering better 1% low performance all while costing notably less without a doubt the most asked question coming away from that video was should I buy the rise in 536 hundred or the 3600 X so to answer that question I went out and I purchased a 3600 X and we're gonna put it to the test now add a guess I'd say it's not worth it because we saw the same thing when comparing the 2600 the 2600 X even the 1600 and the 1600 X but we don't like to guess here at higher on box so let's go run some benchmarks before that though a quick rundown in regards to how these two CPUs compare on paper whereas the 3600 comes clocked at 3.62 Hertz for the base and 4.2 gigahertz for the boost the 3,600 X runs 200 megahertz faster at 3.8 gigahertz and then four point four gigahertz for the boost so a 6% base clock increase and a 5% Bruce clock increase the only other change in specifications can be seen when looking at the TDP the 3600 is a 65 watt part and the 3600 X is a 95 watt part as such the 3600 gets the 65 watt raised stealth box cooler and the 3600 X gets the 95 watt Wraith spire box cooler as for pricing the base model 3600 comes in at $200 u.s. while the 3600 x cost 25% more at 250 dollars u.s. quite a big markup there for the X model so it'll be interesting to see what it has to offer both CPUs have been tested on the gigabyte x5 17 horas extreme with 16 gigabytes of G skills flair exterior for 3200 cell 14 memory and the graphics card of choice for the CPU test is of course the GeForce r-tx 2080 Ti so let's get into the numbers first up we have Cinebench azar 20 multi-core tests and here we see a very mild 2% increase in performance with a 3600 x over the vanilla 3600 very underwhelming and it doesn't exactly justify the 25% price hike meanwhile the single core performance is an increase of just 3% going from 481 points to 497 points then moving along to premier and here we see the biggest performance gain yet as the 3600 X reduced the render time by 5% taking five hundred and thirteen seconds opposed to five hundred and thirty nine seconds not exactly a big deal though so let's just move on and see if we can find any bigger margins elsewhere this time the 3,600 X reduced the render time by just 4% when testing with blender and at this point you're probably starting to question why we need two of these six core 12 threads n2 based CPUs anyway moving on to games and yeah not much to say here either the 3600 and 3600 X basically delivered identical performance in Assassin's Creed Odyssey the 3600 X was up to 2% faster which equates to a 2 FPS difference at most and we see the same thing in battlefield 5 the 3600 X was again up to 2 FPS faster than the non ex model so basically the same performance were still we only see a 1 FPS difference in the division - and I should note that the 3600 X and 3600 do match the 3700 X in this title and we also saw a similar thing when testing with battlefield 5 and Assassin's Creed Odyssey having said all that the 3700 X does offer a small performance boost over 3600 X and shut off the Tomb Raider but the 3600 X was only up to 3% faster than the 3600 so it's pretty clear by this point that in terms of performance the thirty six hundred and thirty six hundred x are basically the same even when it comes to power draw there's virtually no difference between the two the 3600 X increased total system assumption by just four percent when measuring total power draw from the wall and that's interesting given that the thermal watt rating increased by 46% to the 3600 X surely it's not chucking out that much more heat I know that's not exactly what that rating means but let's move on to see how they compare using the Box coolers so here we're looking at how the 3600 X compares with its 95 watt Wraith spire box cooler to the 30 600 with its 65 watt Wraith stealth box cooler and we're doing so using the blender stress test stock we see the 3600 hit 80 degrees and then we see the 3600 X around 2 degrees cooler at 78 degrees but it achieved this will also run in 100 megahertz higher so a two and a half percent increase in frequency then with PBO plus order SC enabled and the risin master software the 3600 hit 84 degrees but only around 25 megahertz faster while the 3800 acts hit 84 degrees but ran 50 megahertz faster for a 3% increase over the 3600 then out of interest I tested both CPUs with the race spire and Wraith stealth box schools to see how the temperatures compared in short using either cooler the 3600 X ran six degrees hotter and he can expect some throttling with the stealth cooler so let's rerun these tests again with the corsair h 115 i Pro installed so with a quality all-in-one liquid cooler installed we find something very interesting and that is almost no difference between the two CPUs temperatures were exactly the same and clock speeds but also basically identical in fact the 3600 maintained a slightly better PB o frequency in our test though I wouldn't read too much into that there's a good chance of around this test enough times with enough CPUs we'd find on average that there is no difference in operating frequencies between these two parts and before wrapping this up let's just have another look at power usage this time focusing on CPU package power and core current using the included box cooler we see virtually no difference in power draw between a 3,600 X and 3600 and the same is also true when using an aftermarket cooler so is the risin 5 3600 x worth purchasing over the 3600 well obviously no and other than to improve AMD's margins there's absolutely no reason for the 3600 x to exist sure you do get a better box cooler but you're paying $50 more for that cooler and it's simply not worth that kind of price premium $10 yes sure but anything more than that $20 or more now not worth it rather than waste $50 on the 3600 x just get the 3600 and if you want to reduce the operating volume and squeeze a tiny bit more performance out of it then grab something like the cooler master 212 black for $40 I suspect the reason this contents been so heavily requested by you guys is again due to the misleading TDP rating the only thing that makes the 3600 are 65 watt TDP part is the 65 watt cooler while the 3600 Xers are 95 watt TDP part because it comes with a 95 watt cooler you could basically swap the coolers around and then reverse the results the 3600 becomes a 3600 ex with the Wraith spire and the 3600 X becomes a 3600 with the Wraith stealth AMD has explained how they calculate the TDP for their Zen to processes in the review guide but it doesn't really help address this issue as there are variables that we still don't know such as the optimal operating temperature for each part and while I could ask AMD for those figures in the end doesn't really matter as both CPUs are essentially the same as our testing shows the only difference being the base and boost clocks which on paper differ by up to 6% something I haven't talked about yet is manual overclocking I know there will be some viewers who claim a 3600 X is a bend part in there for will overclock better than the 3600 however from my one sample test that wasn't the case both were limited to four point two gigahertz at one point three five volt and while both could boot into Windows at four point three gigahertz using one point four volts they found even the most basic stress test so there's not much more to say on this one I highly recommend avoiding the 3600 X and instead just grab the 3600 and then if you find it necessary to upgrade the Box cooler you can do so with something better anyway that is gonna do it for this one if you enjoyed the video feel free to the like button you can subscribe for more content and if you 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