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welcome back to harbor unboxed finally it is time to review AMD's new third generation rising processes and on hand we have the horizon 9 3900 X and the risin 730 700 X unfortunately these are the only two CPUs AMD has sent out to reviewers so the horizon 5 processes and the 3100 X well yeah who knows how they perform we'll know shortly AMD will be sampling them at a later date but we've just gone out and purchased them so anyway at least we've got these two it's certainly a lot better than nothing an AMD in their infinite wisdom also decided to lift the review embargo for both as n2 and Navi reviews at the same time but we're going to delay Navi review for a little bit just so you guys can get those n2 stuff and the videos aren't tripping over each other because we know the YouTube algorithm doesn't particularly like that and rather than do one video that summarizes both Zen 2 and Navi we thought we'd just give you all the juicy details on Zen 2 first but why AMD didn't choose to dominate the news cycle for a few weeks is beyond me but maybe that's why I don't get paid the big bucks anyway that's just about enough winching from me we have a boatload of information to go over and since I know most of you really just want to see the benchmark results I'm not going to spend too much time going over specs and pricing but before we get into anything today's video sponsor is Nord VP and right now they're offering harbor on box viewers 75% off a three-year membership when you use the link in the video description and that works out to be just 2 dollars 99 per month which in my opinion is a very small price to pay for your internet security allowing you to browse download and shop safely hardware and box gets bombarded with advertising opportunities from VPN services and today Nord VPN is the only company we've worked with and that's for good reason it's the only service we use and trust I've tried a number of different services and they all came up short for one 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the wraith prism RGB box color and i'll be using that for the majority of our testing this does mean intel will have a slight performance advantage here but please keep in mind the cost of the cooler will be factored into our value analysis for each processor that said I will provide some 3900 X and 3700 X performance figures using an all-in-one liquid cooler as well the MSI x5 70 Croatian was used for testing the 3900 X and 3700 X while the Isuzu rog crosshair 7 hero was used to test the 1st and 2nd gen Rison processors all have been tested with ddr4 3200 cell 14 memory but there will also be some memory scaling benchmarks included in the video as AMD recommends using ddr4 3600 CL 16 memory for best results so we will look into that as for the eighth and ninth gen Intel Core processors they were benchmarked on the gigabyte z3 19 horas ultra using the same ddr4 3200 cell 14 memory but they were cooled using the corsair hydro series h 115 i RGB platinum 280 millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler please note that the intel cpus are not TDP restricted as that's not the typical out-of-the-box experience so that means we're showing the absolute best case scenario for out-of-the-box performance finally the graphics card of choice was the MSI gaming extra gee for 30 X 28 ETI okay I think that covers pretty well everything let's get in the benchmark results and maybe grab a drink and some snacks before we get started okay so where better to start than Cinebench our twenties multi-threaded benchmark and oh boy does the Raisa 930 900 X look quite mighty here scoring an incredible 7086 points making it 24 percent faster than the thread Ripper 2920 X and that really is incredible moreover it completely decimated the 99er okay by a forty-five percent margin the Rison 730 700 X was equally impressive the new a core part match the 99 or okay and this meant it was 22% faster than the 2,700 X and 30% faster the more expensive 9700 K needless to say these new third gen rising paths are already looking like kings of practive 'ti now just have to say this one is a rather big deal here the 3100 X matched the single core performance of the nine are okay and that meant it was 19% faster than the 2,700 X the 3700 X also did very well hitting 500 points and that placed it roughly on par with the 9700 K so this is a massive performance improvement for Verizon here we have some memory bound with figures and this is sustained a read/write performance as I said earlier all CPUs here are using ddr4 3200 cell 14 memory but interestingly the third gen processors are a little down on the first and second gen but there is a good reason for this and I will cover that a bit later in the video when we're exploring IPC performance for now let's move on to check out a few application benchmarks as you can see the change is aimed in made with these n/2 architecture have had a profound impact on WinRAR performance the 3,700 X is unbelievably 84 percent faster than the 2,700 X allowing it to comfortably beat the 87 or okay and almost match the core I 9 at 7,900 X the 3900 X also put on quite the show though it was only 15% faster and the 3700 X and it couldn't quite match the 9 y ahora que still overall a remarkable performance uplift here over the second gen parts moving on the 7-zip and first up we have the compression test where traditionally Rison hasn't really done that well for example you can see how the 2700 X is 14 percent slower than the nine to 900k however all that looks to have changed here with the third iteration of horizon as we see the 3,700 X easily brushing aside the 9900 cave by a 15% margin basically matching the ten-course 7900 x then we see the 3900 X beating the 29:20 X by an 11% margin and the 9900 K by a whopping 45 percent margin so yeah king of productivity it looks like I already said that but damn these productivity results are impressive then when it comes to decompression work third generation still enjoys a handy performance advantage here the 3700 X was 11% faster than the 9900 K and a whopping 52% faster than the 9700 K meanwhile the 3900 X was a little over 60% faster than the 9900 K and even offered a 17% performance uplift over the thread Ripper 29:20 X now this result really gets me quite excited if the previous ones haven't already as I use premier on an almost daily basis and I'm currently doing so with a thread Ripper 2950 X here we see the 3900 X is 8% fast in the 29:20 X so this means the 3950 X will beat the 2950 X quite comfortably when it's released in a few months time and with that I can't even imagine what the third gen 3 Ripper series will be able to deliver anyway here the 3900 X was 22% faster than the 9900 K and that's no small performance uplift in fact even the 3700 X edged out the 9900 K making it 25% faster than the 9700 K and then what makes these results even more impressive is the fact that premiere is a very pro Intel piece of software so that is to say it's quite biased towards Intel AMD is shown the 3100 X to be a little over 50% faster than the 1900 in DaVinci Resolve and yeah I know I need to get a DaVinci project sorted out so I can start adding that to our benchmarks and I promise I'll get that done soon but anyway the results in premier are still very very impressive moving along first up we have the older 1.0.8 version of the v-ray benchmark and I've included this because well I had all the data for the previous processes and I thought well might as well just add the third gen processors and show you how they can pair anyway using this older version the 30 100x took just 48 seconds to complete the workload while the 3700 X took just 68 seconds this means although the 3700 X was slightly slower than the 9900 K it was much faster than the 9700 K meanwhile the 3900 X beat absolutely everything including the twenty nine twenty X we also see very similar margins in the newest version of the v-ray benchmark though here the core i7 70 100x does manage to edge ahead of the twenty nine twenty X despite that though the 3900 X easily conquered all while the 3700 X wasn't much slower than the 99 hundred K so another strong result for AMD similar margins are also seeing when testing with Corona the 3900 X was 30% faster in the 1990 K while the 3700 X was just 10% slower than the core own own processor the 3700 X was also 12 percent faster than the 2700 X certainly not its most extreme performance uplift over the second gen Rison part but certainly decent all the same the last application I'm going to look at is blender and once again we see similar margins between the tests and processors though this time they're 3,700 X is much closer to the 9900 K than it is to the 2700 X while running the blender open data benchmark I also measured the entire system power draw so let's check out those results before getting into the gaming benchmarks well would you look at that the 3700 X consumed less power than the 2600 X quite a bit less and even less than the 8700 K in fact it was comparable to the our five twenty six hundred and sixteen hundred along with the old quad-core 7700 K and just as a remarkable was the 3900 X which was comparable to the 2700 X and 17900 X making it world more efficient than the 1900 okay and 29:20 X it's pretty crazy when you realize that the 3900 X was 41% faster than the 9900 K in blender and yet it reduced total system consumption by 8% that really is a stellar result for AMD and on that high note I'm going to cautiously move into the gaming benchmarks right so starting with Assassin's Creed Odyssey the new third generation processors are around 10% fast and the 2,700 X which is quite a good result really but it's not good enough to beat the 9900 K at least when looking at the average framerate despite similar frame time performance the 1900 K was 4% faster on average at 1080p with an RT X xx atti I know this is really close enough to call a tie so let's see what happens at 1440p oddly we don't see a coming together of the results at 1440p like you would expect but rather the 9900 K is now six percent faster than the 13 I her X and even more bizarre is the fact that the 29 20 X is now matching the 3900 X though to be fair it wasn't too far behind at LEP so perhaps all that extra memory bandwidth is coming in handy at 1440p then we see that the 97 or ek was also 6 percent faster than 3700 X again not a big margin but I was hoping to see less of a gap at 1440p right so these results are a little bit disappointing well maybe that's a bit too harsh after all the third gen rising parts were both 11% fast on the 2,700 X and that is another decent performance gain the problem is they're both well down on the 99er case average and 1% low performance the 99er K was 8% faster an average and 13% fast and we're looking at the 1% low result again certainly not a massive margin but given the slides that we'd seen from AMD I have to admit I was hoping for more still it is worth noting that at 1440p the 99 hurricane was just 4% faster 3,900 X and generally anything within a 5 percent margin I declare as a draw so at least under these more typical gaming conditions there's almost nothing in it but that still doesn't change the fact that the 99 RK is the superior gamer or at least it is for today's games now he's our biggest deficit yet this time the 99 her ok was 17% faster than the 1300 X when comparing the average frame rate and 20% faster for the 1% low result the 3700 X did do better relative to the 9700 K but again gaming still looks to me advantage Intel bumping the resolution up to 1440p does reduce the margins quite heavily and now the 1900 ok was just 8% faster for the average frame rate and this is certainly a more realistic resolution for an RT X xx atti I have to admit I was hoping these third gen rising processes would be a little more punchy in the division 2 but don't get me wrong the gameplay was still incredibly smooth but even so the 9900 K was still 11% faster than the 13900 X but with similar 1% low performance the horizon process is really worse smooth operators then as we move to 1440p as you'd probably expect in this game we're now entirely GPU bound with these higher-end CPUs and this allowed the 9900 K 9700 K 3,700 X and 3900 X to all deliver identical performance next up we have far cry new dawn and this tile along with previous installments in this series have always been troublesome for AMD rising processors here we see the 2700 X allowing for just 98 FPS on average and that made the 9900 K 26% faster the new 3rd gen rising parts don't completely solve this issue but they do dramatically push things in the right direction for AMD and as a result we see that the 1900 K is now just 10% faster than both the 3100 X and a 3700 X then at 1440p the margin is reduced even further as you'd probably expect and now it's just the 1% lower results that noticeably favor the Intel 8 core processors the deficit seen in FirePro new dorm was a little disappointing and the same can be said when discussing the World War Z results in fact this is by far the most disappointing result we've seen and that's because the third gen Rison processors are no faster than the 2700 X this means the 99 hurricane was 18% fast in the 3900 X and the 9700 K was 21% faster than the 3700 X so whatever it is that pasteurizing processors don't like about World War Z this latest generation isn't able to address even at the more GPU limited 1440p the 9900 K was still able to beat the 3900 X by a 9% margin so again not an ideal result for AMD moving on we have some rage to results in here the 3900 X and a 3700 X do perform very well offering slightly better 1% low performance than the 2700 X which puts them on par with 3,700 K having said a lot though we do see that the 99 hurricane 9700 K offers slightly better 1% low performance around 7% better not really a big deal here and as you might expect the gaming experience was virtually identical that at 1440p were entirely GPU bound with these higher and CPUs from the 3700 X up we're able to get the most out of the our 2 X 20 80 TI hitman 2 is another one of those titles that's never been that friendly with AMD rise and processes and we see that it's still an issue for the third gen parts here the 9900 K beat the 3900 X by a 15 percent margin though that's nothing like the 27% margin it beats the 2700 X by so there is that once again the margins of 1440p are heavily reduced and now the 1900 can't fast in the 3900 X the 3700 X was still 9 percent faster than 2700 X so the third gen rising series have really made a good step forward here when it comes to gaming finally the last game that we're going to look at is total war three kingdoms and this is a solid result for AMD the 3700 X was able to improve the 1% low performance of the 2700 X by an 8 percent margin making it just 1% slower than the 9900 K and 5% slower than the 9700 K which actually does a little better in this title without hyper-threading then a 1440p were once again almost entirely GPU bound leaving just a frame or two in it at the most so I think that's a pretty good spot to wrap up the gaming benchmarks and I think we'll move on to take a quick look at some memory scaling or at least our ddr4 3,200 and 3,600 compare ddr4 3600 is the fastest memory spec AMD recommends using with third generation CPUs as higher clocked memory will actually reduce performance at least when clocked higher than 37:33 as this changes the Infinity fabric to a two to one mode rather than a one to one mode basically true to one sees the Infinity fabric clocked at a quarter of the memory speed while one to one is half since AMD did recommend ddr4 3,600 memory for optimal performance and provided reviewers with a CL 16 kit I thought I'd better test it out just to make sure we're not hampering performance by using the CL 1430 200 kit the good news is we're not here you'll see virtually identical performance in Corona WinRAR far cry new dawn Assassin's Creed Odyssey and World War Z unfortunately due to Tom I didn't get a whole lot of memory testing done but this is something I will followup with providing a much more detailed video in the near future at the request of many of our patreon members I also took a quick look at chipset performance comparing be 452 X 570 using the MSI be 450 tomahawk and X 570 creation I didn't include necks 470 board again Judah time and given we know B 450 and X 470 boards deliver the same performance you should be able to fill in the gaps pretty easily they're looking at the Cinebench scores there appears to be a slight performance advantage in favor of the X 570 board but we're only talking at 1% difference which is within the margin of error though the results did always favor the X 570 board when taking an average of three runs enabling PBO plus order OC in the risin Master we again see similar performance on the x5 70 and B 450 boards and as claimed by AMD the PBO feature of the third generation processors can be enabled on all motherboards that support these processors and just lastly a quick look at performance with World War Z and again very similar performance on both boards I will have a much more in-depth video soon looking at B 350 and X 370 motherboards but given the time I had allocated for this review we're gonna have to settle with the B 450 versus X 570 comparison moving on we have some IPC testing and for this I've clocked the 99 or okay 3,700 X 2700 X and 1700 X at 4 gigahertz using the same ddr4 3200 cell 14 memory the results I have to say are quite staggering whereas clock for clock the 2700 X is 4 percent slower than the 99 or ok the 3700 X is 13% faster I don't really know what to say about that it's a pretty amazing result so I guess there you have it AMD certainly weren't stretching of truth when they claimed a 15% improvement in IPC over second gen Rison here we're seeing an 18 percent improvement interestingly though we do only see an 11 percent boost in single core performance but even so that's still a massive generational jump and that means the 3,700 X was still 7% faster than the 9900 K when matched clock for clock despite the mind-blowing Cinebench results the 99er EK is still able to show these young feisty rising processors who's boss when it comes to gaming clock for clock the 99 Herrera K was still 10 percent faster than the 3700 X however perhaps more shocking is the fact that in this particular tile the 3700 X was just 2% faster than the 2,700 X I guess this explains why the results in this particular title and others such as far cry new dawn were a little more disappointing than we were hoping for still we do see quite a different story when testing with battlefield 5 at least when comparing these second and third generation processors here the 3700 X provided an 8 percent performance boost over the 2700 x1 both were locked at these same 4 gigahertz frequency despite that though the 9900 K was still 7 percent faster than the 3700 X so why is that well once again a big part of the issue is called a call latency but the uses AMD's made massive strides forward in this area taking quarter call latency from around 81 nanoseconds down to just 56 nanoseconds and that's a 30% reduction in latency this also means cortical communication is just 11% slow and compared to the 9900 Kay and that's a big part of why we're seeing third gen rising close in on the 99 records gaming performance but also why it's still not quite there yet also just lastly something that seemed a bit odd at first when I discovered it is the memory write performance of third gen risin it's significantly down on the first and second gen parts AMD's made a compromise here as client workloads do very little writing so rather than use this space to improve something that isn't really going to boost performance overall they've invested this silicon real estate in more beneficial ways to achieve tangible performance gains so whereas the core complex dye to iodine link for reading memory is 32 bytes wide it's only 16 bytes wide for writing and this is why the peak write bandwidth is effectively cut in half now time for the overclocking results and again due to limited time I didn't do as much testing here as I would have liked but it seems pretty clear that just like the first and second generation CPUs there's a very little overclocking Headroom to speak of with these third gen rising processors and this really isn't that surprising both AMD and Intel locked in a fierce battle which sees both trying to extract the maximum amount of performance they can from these high-end CPUs at best I was able to boost the 3900 X's multi-core score by 4% while a 3700 X or a 6% increase however as was the case with second generation the simple multiplier OC method that I used for the 4.3 gigahertz or core overclock is not really the method you want to be using here we see when looking at the single core results it does reduce performance leaving PBO overclocking as the most effective method overall still I feel that most won't bother overclocking to extract that extra four to six percent performance and from what I've heard from other reviewers 4.3 gigahertz seems to be one of the better over clocks at least for the 3900 X on an even more disappointing note I somehow managed to end the life of my 39 X there's really no delicate way to say it at this stage of the review yeah I managed to kill my risin nine 3900 X processor I'm not sure exactly what settings were applied I know I hadn't got into manually adjusting the voltage yet I was letting the board handle it I'm not going to specify which board it was because these were very early biases that yeah well there were a few biases that hadn't been fully validated anyway I believe I was well after testing 4.3 gigahertz and I decided to again leave the voltage on auto and then increase the LLC to see if I could well see what impact that had on temperatures and stuff like that I was just messing around it's a very very late at night I wasn't fully paying attention to what I was doing but I certainly certainly never expected to kill the processor in all my years and never ever run into a problem like this anyway booted up into Windows I wasn't really voltage monitoring so maybe my bad anyway I only ran a Cinebench 20 pass or multi-core pass which doesn't run for particularly a long time anyway it crashed about halfway through reset the system and sadly it never booted up again the CPU now gets stuck at code 0 7 which is AP initialization after microcode I tried another completely different X 570 board from a different brand so completely different board and I got the exact same post code error then after trying the B 450 tomahawk once that was flashed up and working with the 3700 X I tried the 3900 X and yes sadly it was it was declared completely dead at that point did not boot up at all AMD assures me that no other reviewers have managed to kill their 3900 X so I guess I'm just special or unlucky I'll let you guys pick on that one AMD has sent me a replacement but unfortunately it hasn't arrived in time for me to update any of the testing that I didn't get done obviously in this review they'll be arriving well tomorrow so Monday and then I can get on with a few more tests I want to do like try the 3100 X on B 450 motherboards add it to our IPC testing so we can see how to chip 'let's impact the results there anyway that what happened so extremely unfortunate in all my years never ever had this problem but obviously CPUs do have a defective rate as small as it is so maybe it wasn't anything to do with the early biases it was just just a bad chip unfortunately the death of my 3900 ex also means I don't have any temperature data at all so for this we're just gonna have to settle for what I better collect with the 3700 X basically with the Wraith prism RGB Box cooler you can get pretty close to extracting maximum performance out of 3700 X though it does get a little toasty but on the bright side the cooler is very quiet so 87 degrees for the overclock is very respectable of course if you are gonna overclock I recommend an aftermarket cooler you certainly don't need something as expensive as the Corsair hydro series h1 15 I but that's what I had available for testing and as you can see after an hour long blender stress test the 3700 X peaked at just 73 degrees it's a shame I don't have the 3900 X results but I suspect with the Box cooler it runs at around 80 degrees stock under heavy load of course all the results for the 3900 X seen in this video we're recorded with the Box cooler as I noted earlier ok so we've now seen how these new third generalize and processors perform it's time to work out if you should actually buy them and what do they offer in terms of value so let's move on to do that looking at the current asking prices you paying quite a premium for these new CPUs when compared to the second gen parts but that's really hardly surprising when compared to the Intel competition purely for gaming the 3700 X is on par with the 9700 K and 8700 K in terms of value the 3900 X doesn't stack up quite as well here and this means the 99er K is actually quite a bit better in terms of value or is it while the 3900 X comes with a box cooler none of the Intel case Q parts do so let's add in the cost of a good air cooler and then recalculate the cost per frame what I asked on Twitter most of you seem to agree that the be quiet dark rock 4 for $75 was a reasonable pairing for the 99er okay and 9700 K so I've added that to the budget for the K processes factoring in the cooler means the 39 her ex is now better value than the 9900 K and the 3700 ex is very similar to the core i5 9600 K motherboard costs are much the same really so it's just the cooler that those considering Intel need to account for as for AMD second and first generation processors well they're bloody cheap these days so it makes it hard to compare them with these new third gen rising parts still the 3700 X cost just 14% more per frame than the 2700 X and given the massive power savings an improvement in single and lightly threaded workloads I think it's well worth that premium so it'll be interesting to see how the horizon 5 3600 stacks up against the r5 2600 and 1600 when I test it in a few days time moving on from gaming let's take a quick look at a few applications starting with blender on this scatter graph you ideally want to be as low as possible and as far to the right as possible as you can see the 3700 X is not only much lower on the graph than the 97 okay but it's also much further to the right indicating significantly better price to performance the 39 her X is also significantly lower than the 9900 K but much more to the right as it's significantly more affordable and much faster we see a similar story in premier the competing AMD processors are all situated lower on the graph and further to the right making them not just more affordable but also faster okay so despite the fact that I've already blurted out over 4,000 words and wherever 50 graphs is deep into this review I feel like there is a lot more that I would like to cover and I guess that's partly because my 3100 X testing was cut so short nevertheless we have covered all the essentials in this review and you should now have a pretty good idea of how the riser 930 100x and rise in seven 3,700 compared to the current generation Intel CPUs I also have a very very nice-looking range of X 570 motherboards that I've been checking out over the past week but I'll save getting into all those until a little bit later on for now just enjoy the b-roll shots likewise I have a few really impressive PCIe gen 4 SSDs but again I'll save that testing for a future video but as I said the x5 70 boards are really nice and so are the high speed SSDs but truth be told neither are required to get the most out of these new 3rd gen rising processors rather I feel they just complement them at the high end so suitable for you 3900 X for example and that being the case I feel for the most part the x5 70 boards particularly the more premium models should only be paired with the 39 her X or the upcoming 39 50 X for those grabbing the 3700 X and especially the more affordable Verizon 5 3600 models I'd recommend existing X 470 and B 450 motherboards and my personal preference right now is either the MSI B 450 tomahawk or the gaming carbon Pro ac and if you want to know more about those boards then check out our B 450 vrm thermal testing video I have to say I've noticed a lot of commotion regarding these X 570 motherboards namely their pricing but it really doesn't matter given that you can fully unleash these into processes on B 450 motherboards and probably even be 350 boards and I'll set about testing that shortly as for PCIe gen 4 SSDs yeah look they're really nice but again truth is for gaming and general usage they're not worth paying a premium for there's a good chance you won't even notice the difference over existing PCIe gen3 models so bear that in mind but of course for those of you who need that extra bandwidth for whatever reason you're probably better off waiting for thread Ripper as it'll offer many more PCIe lanes and likely be more useful in that regard ok so let's talk about the gaming results as I suspect these will be causing the greatest stir in the comments section below annoyingly AMD did lead us to believe that the 3900 X and 99 or K would be neck-and-neck trade blows even but that doesn't appear to be the case the end result that was far from bad and third gen risin has generally shown a really big step forward for AMD moreover under realistic gaming conditions there's almost no chance you'd be able to tell the difference between the 9900 K the 3100 X or the 3700 X as the difference at 1440p with an RT X 2082 I was incredibly small after all the 3100 X was just 8% sir on average at 1080p so ambhi's basically half - the deficit to Intel in gaming and it was already questionable as to how much of a difference it really made then as we found previously with Rison for almost anything outside of gaming of 3900 X berries the 99er okay while the 3700 delivers comparable performance but this time when it comes to power consumption the new third gen rise and processors are extremely efficient and head and shoulders above Intel's ninth gen parts so if you're just interested in gaming performance I'd recommend the 3700 X and probably the six core 3600 models and as I said I'll cover those soon but if for whatever reason you want the absolute fastest gaming CPU then that still either Intel's 9700 K or 9900 K but value for money they really aren't great at the moment and there is no upgrade path and like I said for most gaming scenarios the difference won't be realized in my opinion Intel really needs to cut pricing and I'm not sure a 15% price drop will be enough now for those of you who use your PC for work so perhaps your game on your PC but you're also use it for productivity much like myself and maybe for content creation or well really any other heavy productivity task well then these new rise and CPUs are really in a league of their own and this makes the 99er ok a bit of a one-trick pony now overall the new rise in 3000 series is everything I hoped it would be it's a big step forward from the 2000 series and the improvements in power efficiency and nothing short of amazing I'm really pleased with the pricing surely no one can complain with what AMD is offering at these price points and if this doesn't force Intel to adjust pricing I'm pretty confident nothing will and that is going to do it for this one there is much more testing to come so don't worry about that we'll have plenty more testing over the next few days and then of course later today tomorrow depending on where you're situated in the world we will have our in-depth Navi coverage as well so make sure you keep an eye out for that and of course if you did like this video then please feel free to give it a like you can drop a comment below and let us know what you think about AMD's new rise and processes very keen to hear what you guys think I reckon they'll be a bit of a discussion around if a gaming performance also you can join us over on patreon for a few cool perks such as access to our exclusive discord server and then our monthly live stream Tim and I'll be doing that in about a week's time and there's going to be a lot of interesting stuff there that will be discussed including my 3900 ex that unfortunately died anyway thank you for watching I'm your host Steve and I'll see you again next time