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welcome back to harbor unboxed got a bit of a weird one here wasn't quite sure what to do with this but anyway we're making a video so a patreon member actually it was the guy that gave us these really cool knives so supplied these 4 unboxing boxes anyway same guy that owns so that's sky soldier blades he also owns silver knight pcs calm and yeah recently he came across this well a lot of these so this is meant to be or is an rx 584 gigabyte graphics card now he was offered around 3,000 of these he could buy them in I think it was 15 lakh quantities for a discount and then he could just resell them or use them in the pre-built systems that he makes anyway he passed on that because they're not the kind of components he uses in his pre-built systems it usually sticks to the well-known brands and brands it'll you know give you a warranty and all that sort of stuff but these were extremely cheap for our x5 80s anyway as I said he passed on the offer but yeah because they were so cheap and quite interesting and wasn't sure if they were a scam or not he decided to buy a couple of them and just check out what the deal was and he offered one of them to us wanted to know if we wanted to buy one and say well yeah we bought one I thought it would make for a pretty cool video so hopefully it does really wasn't sure if it was a scam or not that's always kind of interesting to look into because if there are large volumes of this particular card floating around then chances are before too long some of you guys hunting for deals will run into them anyway the guys at silver knight pcs as I said bought a few of them they've tested one of them they sent me this one and they believed there probably are x5 ATS sorry Rx for ATS that have been reflashed to five ATS so not a big deal if that is the case anyway they said they were available in bulk orders of 15 they were $70 us which is dirt cheap and that was including shipping as well so yeah potential bug in there for anyone trying to get a really cheap rx 584 gigabyte card and really being able to get these for under $100 is pretty awesome and then if they were to buy them just I think like I said they ordered three so there were $96 us each so still a really good purchase they're $70 is insane if it is what it's meant to be but yeah $96 for this graphics card but was it worth buying right now graphics card scams running a bit rampant on places such as eBay freeing random example you see things like what a GT seven tens or yeah GeForce GT seven tens they get sold for well they get reflashed and sold as gtx 1050 s of course they're they're definitely not gtx 1050 s so very sad that that thing is becoming quite common on ebay from Chinese sellers and I haven't looked into it recently I'm going back quite a few months now but back then there there was a lot of them on eBay and eBay didn't see any doing anything about cleaning them up so yeah bit upsetting there that so many people were getting ripped off thinking they were getting a really good value GT 1050 anyway I wanted to know if a similar thing that was going on with this is this like an RX 470 that's been a rebadged we see that sort of thing happened for internet cafes and things like that over in China is it an RX 460 or is it something worse so we're gonna find out beyond initial sort of inspection I had definitely suspected this to be a scam so right away not sure how well you guys can see this for the camera might throw up some b-roll but we have ATI branding on the fans so yeah ATI branding in 2019 I'm not even sure who still has ATI stickers bit of a blast from the past that one I was kind of shocked when I saw that for our younger viewers who don't know who ATI is well the reason you don't know is because AMD acquired them way back in 2006 so yeah ATI hasn't been a thing for over a decade now anyway apparently this is an ATI Radeon at graphics card actually no that's not even correct it is and I'll get this out here this is a bit of a a laugh this one it's an 80 I prayed Eon yep that's a prayed Eon so that's what the the disk here reads if only I had an optical drive so I could read what's on this ancient media frisbee Benny wait what but but so getting back to the car itself as I said I suspected it was a bit of a scam but when I picked the thing up for the first time I quickly started to well I had my doubts that maybe it's not a scam that's because it weighs almost as much as this massive gigabyte horas xt r RX 580 so yeah these things are I think this is just not even a hundred grams heavier something like that this one here this is 830 grams so that may surprise some of you it's a very heavy little graphics card and that would indicate that there is a huge amount of copper in this thing so have a look at that in a minute actually we'll do that now so if we whip the cooler off which will have a quick intermission while I undo these four screws give me a moment there is only four screws holding on the cooler so it's extremely quick and easy to get off as you can see here it does have a it does have an aluminium backplate as well which is relatively thick regal that off I've probably lost that screw forever now one moment obviously if I can recover it you know I'll just look for that screw later not super important what I wanted to show you is this that is a very big copper base plate it looks I haven't actually measured it I probably should have done that but it looks like it's about one and a half mil thick something like that maybe only a mil but it is a big copper base plate anyway it's quite heavy we've got four nickel plated copper heat pipes but what's really interesting what's what's really quite bizarre about this cooler is it is a quite a good quality cooler the card does run quite cool but what's bizarre is the fact that only well just over half the thermal pads are there for the gddr5 memory so half the memory is just completely naked it's coming in contact with nothing so maybe that means EVGA are the ones that made these things the cooler also has two aluminium fin stacks and the smaller fin array is connected to the baseplate via four copper heat pipes anyway it's a pretty decent looking cooler show about the quality controlled those thermal pads though and the guys at silver Knight pcs I check the other models for me and they found they were also missing some thermal pads the PCB design and componentry also looks pretty legit and the GPU does appear to be an RX 580 it also looks like a fairly decent 5+1 phase of erm as well so everything here checks out throwing it in the test system and it's definitely looking like an rx 580 and under clocked rx 580 but an RX 5 value all the same it has an OEM device ID while the sub bender is listed as AMD slash ATI again pretty funny to see hei there of course we only have four gigabytes of memory but there are four gigabyte five ATS and this was advertised to only have four gigabytes of memory so out of the box this thing runs at just 1,000 megahertz and that's a locked frequency so it has no ability to boost beyond that without you going and manually overclocking it so that is the operating frequency of this particular model out of the box this to me suggests that these cards were intended to be mining cards and because of this the max core clock and the voltages have been locked to protect the card from 24/7 mining and I'd say the out-of-the-box specs have been calculated for maximum power and hash rate efficiency and that's of course to maximize profit the memory is also clocked at just 1600 megahertz that's 6.4 gigabits per second and not the typical 8 key bits per second memory with the standard bios the card can only be overclocked as high as one point three gigahertz and again this would be the peak operating frequency as there is no type of GPU boost technology enabled I was only able to hit one point at gigahertz for the memory and this did limit us to 7.2 gigabits per second using ATI flash yeah it is still called ATI flash anyway I was able to unlock the frequency cap and hit a stable fourteen hundred and fifty megahertz not amazing but that's much closer to the full potential of an RX 580 so let's see how that stacks up against the gigabyte RS RX 5 80 XTi okay so out-of-the-box the ATI Radeon performs much like an RX 570 Judah t heavy underclocking boosting it up to the maximum frequency using the unedited BIOS saw a nice 18 percent performance boost in battlefield 5 basically placing an umpire with this stock horas 580 then with a little tinkering we managed 82 FPS with the 14 hundred and 50 megahertz overclock and that's basically rx 590 performance results in Far Cry New Dawn were quite as impressive but here the Auris card does clock quite well still at 1450 megahertz we were basically able to match it despite the lower clocked gddr5 memory performance trends scene and show of the Tomb Raider was similar to what we saw in battlefield 5 out of the box we're looking at rx 570 lat performance a little down here but not really a big difference then a quick and easy overclock got us to rx 580 performance and a bias flush allowed us to hit rx 590 performance then finally we have World War Z and here the overclocks again got the ATI Radeon back on track they're out of the box it was pretty slow so there you have it the ATI Prady on not really short to call this thing I mean it is a 4 gigabyte R X 480 but yeah I'm going with ATI prey young because it's kind of funny but anyway it seems pretty clear that these things were purpose-built or repurposed for mining and then while the mining boom stopped booming and then the distributor's that deal with these sort of gray market cards while though they were there for thousands of them and I suppose they have to try and make some money off them so they turned to boutique PC builders like silver Knight pcs and tried to flog them off to them but as I said the guys over at silver Knight pcs didn't buy these in bulk and they won't be appearing in their pre built systems they'll be sticking to other more well-known brands so yeah they didn't buy them but they picked up a couple of them and they offered some to well guys like me I think maybe one of them went gamers Nexus way as well so perhaps they'll be doing something with it but anyway that's that's pretty much it they are currently listed over on Alibaba as China cheap price wholesale em D minor RX 5 OD a gigabyte ddr5 256 bit scarred and they're selling for between 90 and 110 dollars u.s. I also noticed over on you egg calm that you can buy a corn AMD rx 584 gigabyte for 110 dollars u.s. sold and shipped by corn electronics corn electronics is a subsidiary of corn group so basically it's a corn cartel making their natural progression into PC gaming alternatively right now you can buy a refurbished MSI rx 584 gigabyte armored card from you egg for one hundred and twenty dollars u.s. opposed to the one hundred and seventy dollars u.s. you'll pay for a brand new rx 580 from wealth the usual suspects so is it worth saving around sixty dollars on one of these gray market models honestly no I don't believe it is it's just too sketchy and without a warranty you might as well just buy an msi a soos gigabyte or any other quality AIB models secondhand you get no reassurances with these gray market deals and as we've seen with my particular model here and the other models that the guys at silver Knight pcs bought the the quality control isn't great and then performance out of the box isn't good either because these weren't designed for gamers but you can solve that but yeah for the other the other reasons I just mentioned it's probably not worth the time and effort and yeah I think that's gonna do it for the ATI pray Dion if you enjoyed this video hit the like button subscribe for more content that will be quite different to this content this was sort of a one-off for us but I thought this was worth taking a look at because it'll be a similar deal to things like the the corn rx 580 probably worth avoiding those unless you are confident you can get some sort of warranty with them anyway yep that's gonna do it for this one thank you for watching I'm your host Steve and I'll see you again next time