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April 2018 Q&A [Part 1] Why Don't B360 Boards Support Overclocking?

2018-04-14
welcome back to harbor unboxed for this month's QA I'm here with Tim without wasting more time we're gonna jump into the questions okay first question is from YouTube if AMD made there be 350 motherboard overclockable why didn't L not make there be 360 overclockable and keep the H 370 locked okay the be 360 mh370 sorry yeah I've got lost first question guys I'm a bit slow off the mark okay well the H 370 or H 370 rather is a more premium product on the B 360 so if they were going to give one of those chipset overclocking support it would be the H 370 but anyway the real issue here I guess is why isn't Intel offering overclocking support on their budget boards and yeah while very annoying I suppose it's not really a big deal enough you'd agree with that because you've got the 87 or okay which is what 330 us or something the 80 600 K which is very expensive so you can put that on a $60 board or $70 board and so we got the core i3 83 50k so that might be the only one there that would make sense but data 350 K I probably would buy anyway I just get the core i5 8400 yep I've got a bit lost in that one but I suppose to just answer your question Intel do it because they can yeah pretty much so this one's from YouTube does the Tim between the IHS and silicon on older CPUs ever lose its efficacy for example a 2600 K how long does that take to happen and would it be worth it to deal it and replace hmm okay I don't know exactly I would say well everything degrades so over some period of time yes it would degrade and lose performance I've got some 3770k and 3570 cage ships that well they're quite old now I've had them since they were provided on day one and they seem very similar to when I first got them so I'd say it's not really to be something you'd need to worry about enough there's anyone in the comment section that's seen any real variance in temperatures from day one I suppose there aren't that many people that still have the original ship they probably bought it secondhand so they don't know what it did brand new but I know what mine did the day I got them because it's in my review and yeah I actually looked into that when I did a few revisits and that was like where they were exactly the same but having said that Ivybridge as I just mentioned the two Ivy Bridge processors they were the first ones to use the Tim the paste and not be soldered so I believe the 2600 K and the 2500 okay from up until Sandy Bridge that's when they were sold during them and then they stopped you know and everyone upset so yeah I hope that gives a bit more information on that one this one's from YouTube as well and pretty sure this one's for Steve I wanted to know if capture cards like the elgato 4k 60 Pro reduced the performance loss while recording slash streaming games and should you use a second PC to do so or just add it to existing one ah well this is slightly embarrassing I know I unboxed this oh yeah for the 4k 60 Pro on the channel well as many weeks ago now and yeah I haven't installed it it's actually still on the shelf behind me in my studio it looks very impressive once I get again the second gen rise and stuff out of the way I'll get to it so probably in two to three months but seriously I think a gamer's Nexus did a video yeah yeah yeah and that looked very in-depth I was gamers Nexus video so be good yeah do I need to say any more so if you want to know everything there is to know about that I suggest jumping over the gamers Nexus channel and having a look at their review or whatever they did on it because it's bound to be very comprehensive alright next question is again from youtube this is a fairly technical question I'm not sure how long this will take to answer a Tim favorite Lego set alright it's actually on the shelf behind me but I might actually get it for you guys oh what a trait okay here we go so this Beaulieu Star Wars fans that they I'm sure you probably recognize it immediately this is the ultimate collectors series slave 1 set so this was released a couple years ago it's a minifig scale so it's in inline with the size of the minifigures you get with Lego set for bobber FETs slave 1 it does come with a bobber FET mini feet but that's over somewhere else but this model is really detailed and I love it looks great on the shelf behind me and that sort of thing so this is one of the favorite sets I've built and owns really awesome okay what about when you get your Millennium Falcon yeah that might that might you serve and I get that one I need a new set for that yeah that's for sure okay cool okay moving on from the Lego next question I'd say this one's again for Tim would you reckon you could post smartphone reviews on the channel I've seen one on text but I'd say a video review by Tim would be very welcomed yes you have done them in the past on the channel yes I am I've been pretty busy with some of the laptop stuff in the child actually been working on some videos for the samsung galaxy s 9 plus that I have so my plan isn't really to do the full reviews like you see on techspot I'll still do those for textbooks so go check those out over there but here I think I'll be focusing more on sort of the hardware stuff yeah looking into the performance of the processes in the phone looking at the display and battery life maybe some separate videos yep that's all the planner smartphone stuff is we sort of build up the channel to have more of that content but like I said been busy with other things so yeah hopefully we'll see some more smartphone stuff throughout the rest of the year all right next question from YouTube should be a pretty quick one this one how big is your mousepad now I'll let you answer I actually I had to look this up because my mouse pad is like the most basic cheap thing ever it's actually quite good it's the same series qck it's just 320 by 270 millimeters just your standard everyday mousepad perfect for me okay fair enough I am sorry just get your manly voice on yeah I have one of those big ones you know for special people that come to the whole desk I know I really like that it cushions the blow when I pass out during a big benchmark session as well yeah that happens a lot so all the time yeah can't do more than about 16 hours without passing it that's pretty hopeless this one some youtubers well any qualified guesses on why dx12 is still under utilized in modern tiles yep next well it's more difficult to develop for so you know companies that don't want to put in the resources aren't going to bother with dx12 and also a lot of games these days are still using upgrade versions of engines from the x11 area so they're not going to go and completely redo the engine to add dx12 in at this point whereas we see some of those games that do FDX twelve of running brand-new spanking engines like the great one from Wolfenstein - it's really good so yeah we'll start to see more dx12 tiles as they start to build more engines but still firmly in the dx11 era yeah I'm calling it when DX Thirteen's announced will start the system to x12 titles probably so from YouTube for coffee like k-series should multi core enhancement be enabled or disabled that's a great question yeah hmm well I assume it's in regards to benchmarking and reviews and stuff like that yeah yep so yeah obviously I don't even moving along I think in regards to reviews and whatnot you would be best to test with it disabled but it's also cool to test with it enabled as a feature because it's just a really super easy way to overclock your cpu and get quite a bit more performance out of it and yet great like I said feature for overclocking for inexperienced overclockers or people that are a bit scared to give it a go just click the button it feels a bit safer and it's still kind of kind of in our operating parameters they're not for all cores but anyway I think yeah testing should be done without it but it'd be fine to do additional testing with it enable as well next question is from YouTube Tim what laptop do you daily use and how much time do you consider to have one yeah not quite not quite sure that last part of the question means but I do tend to use review laptops on a daily basis so whenever I have one to test that's what I'm using whenever I need to use it failing that I do have a Broadwell iredale XPS 13 there's still that works fairly well it's getting a bit slow compared to the current 8th gen stuff but works well enough and for video anything on the go I use an Acer predator Triton 700 nice and slim its 15-inch got the H series processor and the GTX 1060 in it so that works well as for if you're asking how often I use it obviously like I game on a desktop I use a desktop for most editing and everyday use but you know if I'm out and about if I want to do some stuff in my living room or the couch or whatever I use a laptop they're just handy to have around just and a laptop stuff really yeah pretty much cool next questions from YouTube how do you guys manage never to drop anything while Linus always does well Paul Linus can you give us some tips yeah I think I've cracked the perfect solution to this and it all comes down to him wearing socks with sandals are akin to you get a low friction environment at your feet with socks and sandals that causes unstained this and it just ripples through your body and when you're picking up products with the socks and sandals on you're just slipping and sliding and doing all that stuff so my advice is wear proper shoes that you're meant to having a proper sock combination go with that and you'll be able to handle anything without dropping it I'm sure Linus will buy that I would like to see Tim actually benchmarking the socks and sandals situation and comparing that to a few different Footwear items but as for myself I don't think I've dropped anything I know when I have things like heat sinks around that I'm not particularly careful around those I sort of drive all through them and I've knocked things off before I definitely I've only once or twice training footage of that because I'm pretty careful with that kind of stuff like thermal paste application can get dicey dropping hard wears a whole other ballgame unless you got lioness level of a subscribers you just can't get away with it on a regular basis yeah now I did recently knock a heat sink over onto a motherboard and that was a bit ah if anyway no damage was done but I yeah bit wait for a second there next question is from YouTube and sorry if you can hear the ambulance off fire truck but whatever it is in the background but we're gonna we're just going to carry on with yes questions I'm sure you guys won't mind few sirens and whatnot will you make in-house benchmarks like G ended with the blender renders or with blender renders huh I've really ever thought about this I'm probably I don't think so yeah we're not that special seriously though there's just so many good benchmarks us so many games to test from and talking about blender there's heaps of really good applications and blender workloads out there so I don't feel like we really need the urge to use our own I mean if we did use our own I suppose we could make it publicly available so it's no different to using ones that are publicly available but I don't have a problem with the blender workloads we have for testing with but yeah half the time I don't even include a lot of the tests I'd like to because it's just like I said so many great applications to benchmark with and if I included all the ones I would like to like a simple video would be 20 minutes long so I think most of our content is probably long enough as it is BAM I think that one answers that question all right this question is from Twitter since you guys have tested CPUs on 720p because it represents better the differences between CPU is it possible to play at 4k with basically any CPU due to 4k being more GPU bound CPU bound meaning possibly no difference in 4k gaming between Rison and coffee like okay I wasn't gonna be too long before I'd address this one again yeah okay my opinion is that 720p is good because you can still use ultra quality settings so anything that there are things in the ultra quality settings that will put extra load on the CPU so using low is not ideal so yeah the reason you want to test it 720p is because you get to use those settings but it's less GPU limited due to low resolution it's certainly not the Beall or end-all of predicting future performance so things like the game engines can start to utilize the CPUs bear in the future which may change the swing of things compared to what we see today that's certainly likely to happen it's more so with rise not we saw with the FX bulldozer series back then because they were terrible a PC wise and everything whereas Verizon certainly isn't but anyway yeah it's not the be-all and end-all is basically it 720p testing on its own certainly could be misleading but its world's better than just doing 4k testing and just lastly just adding something to that last minute ideally I would love to include 720p 1080p 1440p and even 4k results even though 4k results aren't really worth including it shows you what happens at that resolution I'd love to that in every single video but for obvious reasons it's just not possible it takes a huge amount of time to collect all that data so just doing one resolution in a ton of games is an issue so doing three or four is yeah it's a big deal and I'd like to try and give you guys a wider spread of games rather than focusing on just a few select games and testing so it's a trade-off you either get a couple of games and test them thoroughly or you get a he per games and you test them sort of in one situation that makes the most sense so that's why I mostly stick to tell you pay with ultra quality settings as I feel like that gives you sort of the best of both worlds so this one's from discord as well what do you prefer for gaming 1440p a hundred Hertz IPs or 1440p 144 it's plus TN luckily you actually don't need to choose between refresh rate and panel quality at least at 1440p these days there are IPs VA and TN panels that can all do 144 hurts the ten panels are cheaper so you know if you're on a budget but you want that you know those specs just get the 10 panels but if you can afford the the IPS and VA ones are definitely better so go for that if I was stuck with forty-four Hertz on a TN or 1440 a hundreds to probably choose the higher refresh it's just always nice to have okay yeah I like image quality primarily but yeah if I had to choose out of those tried to go for the forty or forty p 100 heads for sure all right that that's me so we're going to wrap up this part of the Q&A session here once again we filmed way too many questions to put in just the one video so we'll have part two of this Q&A session coming out tomorrow so stay tuned for that one Thanks to everyone who submitted questions give this video a 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